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From Osher Doctorow
As my wife Marleen is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, I'm especially
interested in a part of psychology that's probably little known to
most people, namely:
1) knowing the difference(s) between 2 (or more) stimuli
2) knowing the similarity or similarities between 2 (or more) stimuli.
The first is called "discrimination" in psychology, the second
"integration", although "generalization" is a common popular word for
it (somewhat confused with "over-generalization").
To make a long story short, here's the application of discrimination
and integration to physics and politics.
Currently, USA politics at the Presidential level is torn between Jobs
and Self-Defense, while physics on the internet is torn between
serious presenters of their own theories/ideas and people who do
almost nothing but make derogatory comments about serious presenters
(as on sci.physics) - trolls and graffiti artists.
The deepest cause of both of these problems is, in my view, inability
to discriminate and to integrate stimuli.
For example, trolls and graffiti artists on sci.physics and other
forums can't distinguish who is the Victim and who is the Victimizer -
they think that making derogatory personal and impersonal comments
about other people's ideas does not make them Victimizers but Victims.
Similarly, in politics, the Bush Administration focuses on Self-
Defense to the exclusion of Jobs, and the Democrats focus on Jobs to
the exclusion of Self-Defense, so that they close their eyes to
Victimization in one of the two fields but not supposedly in the
other. They don't see anything common to both problems, and they
don't see any differences in their behavior in regard to both
problems.
I don't think that Graffiti Artists/Trolls and most Politicians are
even legally Sane, since they can't distinguish between Right and
Wrong or Victim versus Victimizer.
Osher Doctorow
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12 Dec 2007 11:04:56 AM |
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"OsherD" <mdoctorow@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
news:c94800da-ced8-4e1c-9477-a47491dc0272@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
From Osher Doctorow
As my wife Marleen is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, I'm especially
interested in a part of psychology that's probably little known to
most people, namely:
We are glad you are under her constant care.
1) knowing the difference(s) between 2 (or more) stimuli
2) knowing the similarity or similarities between 2 (or more) stimuli.
actually this is well known in the SONAR field, where one must judge
extreamly slight differences in amplitude and pitch of streaming "beeps"
The first is called "discrimination" in psychology, the second
"integration", although "generalization" is a common popular word for
it (somewhat confused with "over-generalization").
To make a long story short, here's the application of discrimination
and integration to physics and politics.
Currently, USA politics at the Presidential level is torn between Jobs
and Self-Defense, while physics on the internet is torn between
serious presenters of their own theories/ideas and people who do
almost nothing but make derogatory comments about serious presenters
(as on sci.physics) - trolls and graffiti artists.
yes, I fully agree that
"jobs at the presidential level in US politics" is to "deregalatory
comments"
as
"Self Defence" is to "physics on the internet"
as
"serious presenters" is to "crackpots"
The deepest cause of both of these problems is, in my view, inability
to discriminate and to integrate stimuli.
For example, trolls and graffiti artists on sci.physics and other
forums can't distinguish who is the Victim and who is the Victimizer -
they think that making derogatory personal and impersonal comments
about other people's ideas does not make them Victimizers but Victims.
Confusus Say: if one cannot take care of the units in his equations then he
is his own self-victim.
Similarly, in politics, the Bush Administration focuses on Self-
Defense to the exclusion of Jobs, and the Democrats focus on Jobs to
the exclusion of Self-Defense, so that they close their eyes to
Victimization in one of the two fields but not supposedly in the
other. They don't see anything common to both problems, and they
don't see any differences in their behavior in regard to both
problems.
I don't think that Graffiti Artists/Trolls and most Politicians are
even legally Sane, since they can't distinguish between Right and
Wrong or Victim versus Victimizer.
Agree with the latter,
especially about Hillary who's campain to win is "because her husband was
the Prez".
Sounds like South American 3rd world politics, put the wife in charge.
Osher Doctorow
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13 Dec 2007 01:35:54 AM |
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"Local Host" with pseudonym-address "spamless" etc. has a sense of
humor, contrary to almost all trolls and graffiti artists that I have
encountered, so I won't describe him/her/it as a troll or graffiti
artist at present.
As for Confucius saying that one is one's own victim if one can't take
care of the units in one's equations, aside from being funny this
isn't what Confucius said, and is a repetition of what several of the
last few Trolls/Graffiti artists claimed in between personal and
impersonal insults that have no place on the internet or anywhere
else. Since all the Trolls/Graffiti artists who posted the last few
postings use similar pre-College language for which they would be
thrown out of class in a good research university, as well as having
similar profiles including sites that they regularly visit outside
sci.physics, there may not even be more than one or two Trolls/
Graffiti artists using multiple computer addresses. In any case,
let's examine the claim of "not taking care of the units in one's
equations."
The claim of "not taking care of the units" in my equations comes from
the Trolls/Graffiti artists with no explanation other than one
indirect semi-example (the person can't state either a complete
proposition or a complete sentence) wherein ax + b/x was indicated as
an example of impossible units. This is false. If you believe this,
then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you (this is supposed to be
USA humor).
Best Regards, and I suggest: do use your real name in future, as
Confucius did in the past without any horrible result.
Osher
On Dec 12, 9:04 am, "local host" <Dor...@spamless.com> wrote:
We are glad you are under her constant care.
yes, I fully agree that
"jobs at the presidential level in US politics" is to "deregalatory
comments"
as
"Self Defence" is to "physics on the internet"
as
"serious presenters" is to "crackpots"
Confusus Say: if one cannot take care of the units in his equations then he
is his own self-victim.
I don't think that Graffiti Artists/Trolls and most Politicians are
even legally Sane, since they can't distinguish between Right and
Wrong or Victim versus Victimizer.
Agree with the latter,
especially about Hillary who's campain to win is "because her husband was
the Prez".
Sounds like South American 3rd world politics, put the wife in charge.
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