"James Harris" <jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
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Axel Vogt <nospam@axelvogt.de> wrote in message

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'Winkel-Tri-Sektierer' rarely get a rude reply.
This is a polite answer. But you should try to
understand what the last sentence really says.

Oh, you mean contacting a local mathematician?

I tried. As I live in Atlanta metro there are several universities.
Phone calls and emails didn't get me more than one math professor
referring me to another university. She said hers lacked the
expertise.

Beyond that an earlier version of the paper that the editor is
referring to, was commented on by no less than Barry Mazur.

And what, exactly, did Barry Mazur say?

James Harris wrote:

Axel Vogt <nospam@axelvogt.de> wrote in message

'Winkel-Tri-Sektierer' rarely get a rude reply.
This is a polite answer. But you should try to
understand what the last sentence really says.

Oh, you mean contacting a local mathematician?

I tried. As I live in Atlanta metro there are several universities.
Phone calls and emails didn't get me more than one math professor
referring me to another university. She said hers lacked the
expertise.

This is such a cop-out it's incredible. There are three universities in
the Atlanta area that I've looked at: Emory, Georgia State, and Georgia
Tech. I found several names of professors (at varying ranks, from
assistant to full professor) who would doubtless have the background
to provide guidance. Whether they would be willing is an entirely
different matter. Envision, if you will, the following two scenarios:

ONE:

JSH: Hello, Professor Smith?

SMITH: Yes, can I help you?

JSH: Please pretend you're not a lying sack of ***** for a
minute, and read this paper that shows that everything
you've been teaching is a full-blown lie, and by the
way you don't really know enough to be allowed to wipe
my furry little ***** with that lying tongue of yours,
so please bow down and worship me, before I sic the
generals on you!

SMITH: No, thank you, but have a nice life!


TWO:

JSH: Hello, Professor Smith?

SMITH: Yes, can I help you?

JSH: Why, yes, I hope. I've written this paper for publication
and I can't seem to get anywhere with it. It's about
algebraic integers and factoring polynomials, which should
be basic material, but all I get are complaints about how
either everything is trivial and I have no proofs here,
or how I'm claiming that something is true that just isn't,
and so don't have any proofs here. When *I* read it it all
looks so obvious, yet when people who *claim* to be
mathematicians read it, there are these complaints.

Further, I just got this back from the prestigious German
journal "Zeitschrift für der Vaterland und ihrer
Grenzgebiete und Wienerschnitzel über alles", and the
editor sent this letter back (hands letter over) ...

SMITH: I'm a little busy now, but if you could allow me
to Xerox your papers there, I would be glad to give
it a quick look-over and we could discuss it in a
week or so. OK?

JSH: Well, I really wanted to get on with taking down the
corrupt mathematical establishment, if it's all the same
to you. After all, flawed ideas are just wriggling all
over the corpus of mathematical thought, like little
lying maggots lying all over this mathematical corpse,
and it really gives me the Jimmies, er, Smithies, er,
heebie-jeebies. How soon was that?

SMITH: A week or so; um, look, give me a call during my
office hours next Thursday, and I'll see whether
I've made any headway. Until then, don't you think
that this corrupt mathematical establishment will
pretty much remain in a status quo? I mean, it's
been a few hundred years already, I don't see where
a week more or less can make much difference.

JSH: But there's the FBI, and the NSA and the NSC, also....

SMITH: OK, well I'll do my best. Thursday, then? Between,
oh, one-thirty and four in the afternoon? Here's
my card. It has my office numbers and e-mail on
it. I'll talk to you soon. Gotta go.

JSH: OK, Professor Smith. Thursday it is, then! Bye!!
[sotto voce]: running lapdog of mathematical imperialism.


See, in approach ONE, our mock JSH was too up-front with his bigotry
and hatred of the mathematical establishment, and it caused a classical
defensive-troll response.

In approach TWO, the mock JSH held back, and the mathematician SMITH
was tricked into responding as a helpful teacher-troll. Even when the
bigotry was unveiled (by referring to taking down the mathematical
establishment), the teacher-troll adopted a more accommodation-troll
type or troll-response. He gave the mock JSH a troll-card to help
him find the teacher-accommodation-troll's office and phone number,
and even made the extra effort to push the review ahead to accommodate
JSH's urgency in his plans for demolition of the corrupt mathematical
establishment.

The approach can make a big difference, that's all I'm saying.

Beyond that an earlier version of the paper that the editor is
referring to, was commented on by no less than Barry Mazur. Another
earlier version went by Andrew Granville.

No Less Than Barry Mazur.

So basically I've already had comments on the paper from a
mathematician at a level beyond what even some of those who would
consider themselves excellent mathematicians get in their entire
careers despite dozens if not hundreds of *published* papers.

Yes, Mazur is well-respected. His set of works is as significant as
anyone's. So what?

If they just did their jobs and reported then I wouldn't be having
these problems, but apparently some mathematicians believe they can
sit and wait.

And Mazur's job is to help *you* in some fashion? Do you truly believe
that he has a contract that even has *your* name in it? Or, is it that
you think his contractual agreements include some text such as this:

"... shall assist every person with a mathematical paper,
irrespective of the clarity of ideas expressed in said
paper, or of the correctness of the results stated therein,
to publish and claim the rights and privileges heretofore
accorded to the mathematical priesthood. These rights shall
include, but not necessarily be limited to:

1. Fame
2. Vast Riches
3. The Babes. Don't forget the Babes.
4. Power. Unlimited Power. Plus the Babes!
5. The right to flout all convention, especially
anything to do with farting in elevators, dropping
big pieces of poo into punchbowls, and threatening
others' lives and livelihoods.
6. Did I mention the Babes? Well, the Babes, then.

"Any person who shows up with any scribbling that is purported
to be profound mathematical proof must be the number one
priority; all other work must cease because it could be
REALLY REALLY BIG!!!! and since society pays us [note how
your paycheck is signed "Very Truly Yours. The Society"], we
have a legal, moral, and fiduciary obligation to act as the
servants, nay, slaves, of everyone who waltzes in the door
with a slip of paper with any sort of marking on it."

The trouble with that is they must be hoping that the truth won't gain
traction, which is that their math discipline has this wacky, esoteric
flaw in what's called the ring of algebraic integers.

It's WACKY!!!!

It's ESOTERIC!!!!!

It's A FLAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But

JSH CAN'T SHOW IT!!!!!!!

...that's JUST how *wacky* and *esoteric* that flaw is!

They can run and hide, but after all, I found a short proof of
Fermat's Last Theorem, so tracking things down is what I do.

This would be slightly *less* pathetic if one other human could be
convinced of the truth of this sentence.

However, there is not another human being who accepts JSH's version
of mathematics. Shouldn't he have a friend that he discusses his
greatness with, to whom he could preach the word, and who would at
least stand up and say "Amen" to brother JSH's gospel?

Doesn't his Mom even believe him?

His Sweetheart?

His pet dog?

Yeeehaa!!!

Once again, JSH imagines he's king of the world. Time for him
to get that Burger King crown out and prance in front of the
mirror.

James Harris

Dale