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Ring laser gyroscopes prove aether can be experimentally detected |
It is commonly accepted that the results of Michelson-Morely
interferometer experiments (MMX) proved that the aether doesn't exist
because they could not detect any fringe shift from beams of light
travelling in different directions.
Well, this is a load of crap!
Take a look at what ring laser gyroscopes do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope
This is nothing more than a minature solid state version of the same
interferometer experiment. It works by detecting the interference
fringes generated by the device when you rotate it. This is exactly
what the MMX was designed to detect. If the aether was undetectable (as
currently assumed) then there is no way that a ring laser gyroscope
could possibly work.
Since ring laser gyroscopes do work and are in common use - this proves
beyond a doubt that the aether can be experimentally detected and the
effect can be used in practical applications to detect rotation.
The aether does exist! - Now experimentally proven on practical
devices.
Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect
This explains the Sagnac effect - the principle upon which the ring
laser gyroscope is based. While the ring interferometer is a bit
dffererent from MMX in that it detects fringes based on angular
velocity rather than fringes generated by just the orientation, both
seek to detect changes in the path of light based upon the presumtion
that the devices are traveling through an aether and it is the absolute
travel length through the aether which altered by either rotation or
orientation. The purpose of the ring interferometer was to detect "the
effect of the relative motion of the aether".
I can't understand how people can continue to refuse the existence of
the aether, eventhough we have practical devices which rely on its
existence.
-fhugyro
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| User: "Martin Hogbin" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove aether can be experimentally detected |
01 Oct 2006 04:33:06 AM |
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<franklinhu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159634857.800064.167730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
It is commonly accepted that the results of Michelson-Morely
interferometer experiments (MMX) proved that the aether doesn't exist
because they could not detect any fringe shift from beams of light
travelling in different directions.
<snip>
I can't understand...
Perhaps you should try harder.
Martin Hogbin
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove aether can be experimentally detected |
01 Oct 2006 05:14:46 AM |
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"Martin Hogbin" <goatREMOVETHIS123@hogbin.org> wrote in message
news:Icidne6A3PnCF4LYRVnygg@bt.com...
| Perhaps you should try harder.
| Martin Hogbin
Troll harder, *****.
Androcles.
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| User: "RP" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove aether can be experimentally detected |
30 Sep 2006 12:59:02 PM |
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wrote:
It is commonly accepted that the results of Michelson-Morely
interferometer experiments (MMX) proved that the aether doesn't exist
because they could not detect any fringe shift from beams of light
travelling in different directions.
Well, this is a load of crap!
Take a look at what ring laser gyroscopes do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope
This is nothing more than a minature solid state version of the same
interferometer experiment. It works by detecting the interference
fringes generated by the device when you rotate it. This is exactly
what the MMX was designed to detect. If the aether was undetectable (as
currently assumed) then there is no way that a ring laser gyroscope
could possibly work.
Since ring laser gyroscopes do work and are in common use - this proves
beyond a doubt that the aether can be experimentally detected and the
effect can be used in practical applications to detect rotation.
The aether does exist! - Now experimentally proven on practical
devices.
Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect
This explains the Sagnac effect - the principle upon which the ring
laser gyroscope is based. While the ring interferometer is a bit
dffererent from MMX in that it detects fringes based on angular
velocity rather than fringes generated by just the orientation, both
seek to detect changes in the path of light based upon the presumtion
that the devices are traveling through an aether and it is the absolute
travel length through the aether which altered by either rotation or
orientation. The purpose of the ring interferometer was to detect "the
effect of the relative motion of the aether".
I can't understand how people can continue to refuse the existence of
the aether, eventhough we have practical devices which rely on its
existence.
-fhugyro
A rigourous mathematical analysis reveals that the Sagnac effect is
consistent with both Lorentz and Gallilean spacetimes. Where most
people go wrong in the argument is confusing the length of the arm with
the light-path length. The latter is a function of the velocity of the
arm wrt the observer, the former a function of its scalar speed wrt the
observer. The arm length is also the simulaneous length, i.e the
distance between the simultaneous position of its ends. The light path
length depends however on the non-simultaneous positions of the ends of
the arm, upon the velocity of the arm, and upon the velocity of the
signal wrt the observer.
If we assume the rotating frame of reference of the ring laser
gyroscope, then the fringe is due to a change in the total light-path
length as we transform between rotational frames of different angular
velocity, and this occurs equally in both the Lorentz and Galilean
transforms. The Lorentz transformation is a transformation between
Gailean frames of refernce.
When no transformation between inertial frames is applied, the speed of
light will be c wrt the observer in either context, that is, assuming
the Galilean observer to be at rest wrt the "aether".
It was the same mistake in reasoning that led Lorentz to insist in the
existence of an aether, but Einstein showed that by arguing the very
same systems, we could chose any inertial frame whatsoever and obtain
the same result. The behavior of the laser gyro is independent of the
inertial state of motion of the device wrt us. Thus which of these
inertial frames is it that the gyro has angualr velocity absolutely wrt
to? Answer, all of them. Which of these inertial frames is it taht the
gyro is moving inertially absolutely wrt to? Answer, all of them. Which
one is at rest wrt the aether? Answer, all of them. The aether is thus
just another name for inertial frame of reference, of which there are
infinitely many.
Richard Perry
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove that Newton was right. |
30 Sep 2006 04:00:49 PM |
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"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| A rigourous mathematical analysis reveals that the Sagnac effect is
| consistent with both Lorentz and Gallilean spacetimes.
A spinning bullet in the real world is a fixed helix in spacetime.
In Galilean spacetime the greater the speed the longer the "wavelength"
(one turn of the screw).
In aethereal spacetime the bullet has to spin faster to cover the
same distance (more than one turn of the screw), which is magic.
There are some of us that still live on planet Earth.
(Rigorous mathematical analysis )
Androcles.
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| User: "RP" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove that Newton was right. |
30 Sep 2006 09:33:54 PM |
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Sorcerer wrote:
"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159639142.200376.318000@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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| A rigourous mathematical analysis reveals that the Sagnac effect is
| consistent with both Lorentz and Gallilean spacetimes.
A spinning bullet in the real world is a fixed helix in spacetime.
In Galilean spacetime the greater the speed the longer the "wavelength"
(one turn of the screw).
In aethereal spacetime the bullet has to spin faster to cover the
same distance (more than one turn of the screw), which is magic.
There are some of us that still live on planet Earth.
(Rigorous mathematical analysis )
Androcles.
Em waves expand spherically.
Richard Perry
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| User: "Sorcerer" |
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| Title: Re: Ring laser gyroscopes prove that Newton was right. |
01 Oct 2006 03:43:23 AM |
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"RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "RP" <no_mail_no_spam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > news:1159639142.200376.318000@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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| > | A rigourous mathematical analysis reveals that the Sagnac effect is
| > | consistent with both Lorentz and Gallilean spacetimes.
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| > A spinning bullet in the real world is a fixed helix in spacetime.
| > In Galilean spacetime the greater the speed the longer the "wavelength"
| > (one turn of the screw).
| > In aethereal spacetime the bullet has to spin faster to cover the
| > same distance (more than one turn of the screw), which is magic.
| > There are some of us that still live on planet Earth.
| > (Rigorous mathematical analysis )
| > Androcles.
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| Em waves expand spherically.
I'll remember to tell my laser pointer and all those TV - satellite dishes
that. There are some of us that still live on planet Earth.
(Rigorous mathematical analysis )
Androcles.
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