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"Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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26 Jan 2005 03:00:21 PM |
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Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
January 26, 2005
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050124/full/050124-10.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6934
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=7440023
http://www.physorg.com/news2831.html
http://www.climateprediction.net
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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| User: "Paul F. Dietz" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
28 Jan 2005 06:35:34 PM |
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The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their true ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
28 Jan 2005 06:47:31 PM |
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"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
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The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their true
ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
Hmm, another troll who posts only to insult, not to discuss the subject of
the thread.
A troll posting under his real name is still a troll, troll.
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| User: "Androcles" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
28 Jan 2005 07:27:52 PM |
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
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"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
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The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their
true ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
Hmm, another troll who posts only to insult, not to discuss the
subject of the thread.
A troll posting under his real name is still a troll, troll.
Too right. I've been posting here since '99, always as Androcles, nearly
always with a physics content, and yes, I insult those that insult me
(either directly or by arrogantly imagining that can teach me
something), but the reason I do not display an alternative name is that
some trolls do post only to insult and some are actually stalkers.
Androcles.
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
28 Jan 2005 08:24:41 PM |
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"Androcles" <dummy@dummy.net> wrote in message
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
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"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
news:C5CdnRDQXr7LR2fcRVn-iw@dls.net...
The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their true
ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
Hmm, another troll who posts only to insult, not to discuss the subject
of the thread.
A troll posting under his real name is still a troll, troll.
Too right. I've been posting here since '99, always as Androcles, nearly
always with a physics content, and yes, I insult those that insult me
(either directly or by arrogantly imagining that can teach me something),
but the reason I do not display an alternative name is that some trolls do
post only to insult and some are actually stalkers.
Androcles.
Thank you, and a pleasure to here, I was starting to feel ganged up on. ;-)
I could post using a real sounding name and they would never know the
difference, I think my way is actually the more honest way.
I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
I only posted my opinion here, and posted it as an opinion. I have never
claimed to be an expert, I'm just someone who finds geology fascinating. Of
course, I doubt the naysayers are even posting from the geology newsgroup,
the trouble when threads are cross posted.
Most of the geology group regulars are decent people who respect others
opinions even if they disagree with them.
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
29 Jan 2005 10:18:34 PM |
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
You learn something about the newsgroup you're posting to before you
start bleating.
Paul's been around longer than you've probably been able to read.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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30 Jan 2005 10:08:44 AM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
You learn something about the newsgroup you're posting to before you
start bleating.
Paul's been around longer than you've probably been able to read.
Oh I doubt that, I was around when JFK was assainated, where was Paul then?
Paul is not in any group I read, he is crossposting into my group. Here he
is the troll.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
30 Jan 2005 12:39:46 PM |
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:jpnov090qss8idjssnbc565tb39h2ol1o1@4ax.com...
:> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:>
:> :I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
:>
:> You learn something about the newsgroup you're posting to before you
:> start bleating.
:>
:> Paul's been around longer than you've probably been able to read.
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:Oh I doubt that,
I don't, since I question just how well you read NOW.
:I was around when JFK was assainated, where was Paul then?
You weren't 'around', either, since there was no computer network for
you to be 'around' on.
No doubt you were on the grassy knoll....
:Paul is not in any group I read, he is crossposting into my group. Here he
:is the troll.
The preceding makes zero sense.
--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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30 Jan 2005 01:20:18 PM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:jpnov090qss8idjssnbc565tb39h2ol1o1@4ax.com...
:> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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:> :I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
:>
:> You learn something about the newsgroup you're posting to before you
:> start bleating.
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:> Paul's been around longer than you've probably been able to read.
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:Oh I doubt that,
I don't, since I question just how well you read NOW.
Better than you, or we wouldn't be having this discussion
:I was around when JFK was assainated, where was Paul then?
You weren't 'around', either, since there was no computer network for
you to be 'around' on.
I see, to you the entire world exists inside the Internet, no wonder you
make no sense.
My first computer was made by Texas Instruments, it had 8K of RAM and was
expandable to 16K. There was no floppy drive, you wrote the programs
yourself to do what you wanted them to do. It had a save to cassette feature
but it never worked, I'd save my work but it would never reload,so I started
writing my programs down to make them easier to re-enter. Very few were over
ten to twenty lines long, basic stuff like 10: if fill in the blank then
fill in the blank
20 run, etc.
I took a hiatus from computers for awhile, my next one had a 5.25 Floppy,
you loaded DOS into it off the floppy everytime you turned it on. My
favorite program was the Bank Street Writer, I still have version 3 of it on
floppy, but no computer that can run it anymore, 5.25 floppy drives are a
bit hard to find now.
I watched Neil Armstrong land on the moon, then went outside and looked up
at it, and was filled with awe to know that soemwhere up there, as I
watched, a man was walking on it's surface.
I've been around, long before the Internet was ever imagined. Believe what
you want, I imagine I'm old enough to be your father. Although I'm still
single and childless, my sister is a Grandmother with several grandchildren
already, from all three of her kids.
I've watched the climate long enough to know, dispite what the alarmists
say, 30 years from now we will still be getting along just fine, and they
will still be predicting disaster.
Take it however you like, I'm though with you as well. I won't read any
further posts from you after this session.
No doubt you were on the grassy knoll....
:Paul is not in any group I read, he is crossposting into my group. Here
he
:is the troll.
The preceding makes zero sense.
I have posted my opinion as it relates to the topic of the thread. His only
reason to post was to insult me. That is the action of a troll.
If that makes zero sense to you, it is because you lack the mental ability
to understand.
--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates
So stop speaking those false words about me, I"m only your enemy here
because you wish to make me one. The problem is yours, deal with it. I am,
I'm ignoring you from here on out.
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| User: "Paul F. Dietz" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
30 Jan 2005 05:47:48 PM |
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The Ancient One wrote:
Paul's been around longer than you've probably been able to read.
Oh I doubt that, I was around when JFK was assainated, where was Paul then?
Living in Maryland.
Paul is not in any group I read, he is crossposting into my group. Here he
is the troll.
Your nonsense is nonsense wherever it is posted, including the newsgroup
in which I am reading it, where I have been a poster since it was created
(and, on sci.space before that, back into the early 1980s.) As far as
I can tell, you have never done anything in this newsgroup but post your
trollish *****.
Paul
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| User: "Paul F. Dietz" |
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28 Jan 2005 08:34:22 PM |
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The Ancient One wrote:
Thank you, and a pleasure to here, I was starting to feel ganged up on. ;-)
I could post using a real sounding name and they would never know the
difference, I think my way is actually the more honest way.
I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
I've been posting on usenet under that name for a long
time, probably before you were born, kid. I assure you it is
my own real name.
Persons of integrity don't hide behind pseudonyms.
Paul
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
29 Jan 2005 12:15:37 PM |
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"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
news:6t2dnYgdj_qza2fcRVn-ig@dls.net...
The Ancient One wrote:
Thank you, and a pleasure to here, I was starting to feel ganged up on.
;-)
I could post using a real sounding name and they would never know the
difference, I think my way is actually the more honest way.
I mean, how do I know Paul is his real name?
I've been posting on usenet under that name for a long
time, probably before you were born, kid. I assure you it is
my own real name.
Persons of integrity don't hide behind pseudonyms.
Paul
Kid, that's funny junior. If you're a person of integrity why are you only
posting to insult. Whrere is your contribution to the discussion?
You are here to troll, nothing more.
Here's some food for thought for you youngster.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200108/POL20010808a.html
Guess you're still just a troll, and a foolish one at that.
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| User: "" |
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29 Jan 2005 12:30:43 PM |
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January 29, 2005
The Ancient One wrote:
Here's some food for thought for you youngster.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200108/POL20010808a.html
Greening Earth Society, the Western Fuels Association and Robert
Balling?
That's funny pappy.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Greening_Earth_Society
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Robert_C._Balling
"Balling has acknowledged that he had received $408,000
in research funding from the fossil fuel industry over the
last decade (of which his University takes 50% for overhead).
Contributors include ExxonMobil, the British Coal Corporation,
Cyprus Minerals and OPEC.
(http://www.mtn.org/~newscncl/complaints/hearings/det_118.html)"
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
29 Jan 2005 01:07:39 PM |
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<lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
news:1107023443.693618.193900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
January 29, 2005
The Ancient One wrote:
Here's some food for thought for you youngster.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200108/POL20010808a.html
Greening Earth Society, the Western Fuels Association and Robert
Balling?
That's funny pappy.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Greening_Earth_Society
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Robert_C._Balling
"Balling has acknowledged that he had received $408,000
in research funding from the fossil fuel industry over the
last decade (of which his University takes 50% for overhead).
Contributors include ExxonMobil, the British Coal Corporation,
Cyprus Minerals and OPEC.
(http://www.mtn.org/~newscncl/complaints/hearings/det_118.html)"
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
Yea, how convienent that anyone who disagrees is a fringe lunatic isn't it.
As long as people like you refuse to consider any and all evidence that
contradicts your cherished beliefs that makes them true.
Your ignorance has been noted, thanks for playing.
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| User: "" |
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29 Jan 2005 01:28:09 PM |
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January 29, 2005
Yea, how convienent that anyone who disagrees is a fringe lunatic
isn't it.
Follow the money, pappy, er ... old timer ... alzheimer.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Craig_Idso
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
http://www.prwatch.org/node/156/trackback
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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29 Jan 2005 02:16:53 PM |
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<lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
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January 29, 2005
Yea, how convienent that anyone who disagrees is a fringe lunatic
isn't it.
Follow the money, pappy, er ... old timer ... alzheimer.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Craig_Idso
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
http://www.prwatch.org/node/156/trackback
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
Your Thomas?
You're an idiot and a troll. Back to the killfile for you.
Difference between you and I is, I read all sides and really don't care who
the author is, I base my decisions on ALL available information, including
my own observations. Goodbye troll.
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| User: "Sander Vesik" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:39:18 AM |
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In sci.space.policy The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
<lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
news:1107026889.204647.52510@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
January 29, 2005
Yea, how convienent that anyone who disagrees is a fringe lunatic
isn't it.
Follow the money, pappy, er ... old timer ... alzheimer.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Craig_Idso
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
http://www.prwatch.org/node/156/trackback
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
Your Thomas?
You're an idiot and a troll. Back to the killfile for you.
Difference between you and I is, I read all sides and really don't care who
the author is, I base my decisions on ALL available information, including
my own observations. Goodbye troll.
Oh really? Point to a single post of yours where you demonstrate it.
--
Sander
+++ Out of cheese error +++
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29 Jan 2005 02:51:01 PM |
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January 29, 2005
The Ancient One wrote:
Follow the money, pappy, er ... old timer ... alzheimer.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Craig_Idso
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
http://www.prwatch.org/node/156/trackback
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
Your Thomas?
No, I share that name with many others.
Difference between you and I is
I seek the truth with scientific methods,
and you read pulp articles by industry shills,
and then regurgitate propaganda on the usenet.
Goodbye troll.
I know, the truth hurts, old man.
Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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29 Jan 2005 03:40:36 AM |
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"Androcles" <dummy@dummy.net> wrote in message news:sEBKd.10198$B5.4954@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote in message
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"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
news:C5CdnRDQXr7LR2fcRVn-iw@dls.net...
The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their
true ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
Hmm, another troll who posts only to insult, not to discuss the
subject of the thread.
A troll posting under his real name is still a troll, troll.
Too right. I've been posting here since '99, always as Androcles, nearly
always with a physics content
and always as stupid and as disgusting as possible:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:users%2Epandora%2Ebe+androcles
Dirk Vdm
, and yes, I insult those that insult me
(either directly or by arrogantly imagining that can teach me
something), but the reason I do not display an alternative name is that
some trolls do post only to insult and some are actually stalkers.
Androcles.
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31 Jan 2005 11:36:35 AM |
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In sci.space.policy The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
"Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net> wrote in message
news:C5CdnRDQXr7LR2fcRVn-iw@dls.net...
The Ancient One wrote:
False, the majority of usenet posters use names other than their true
ones,
However, in your case the idiot troll hypothesis seems to best fit
the evidence.
Paul
Hmm, another troll who posts only to insult, not to discuss the subject of
the thread.
A troll posting under his real name is still a troll, troll.
Well, by al evidence you are entirely incapable of contributing anything,
anywhere while Paul has a good track record. And you look far more
trollike than him anyways.
--
Sander
+++ Out of cheese error +++
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| User: "James Annan" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
28 Jan 2005 06:28:18 PM |
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The Ancient One wrote:
When and if I decide to take a firm stand on a matter I post under my real
name,
Well there you go then. It's throwaway drivel from "The Ancient One",
when using your real name you actually post what you believe.
Of course, there are exceptions, like Steve Schulin who generally posts
semantically valid but content-free drivel, but occasionally slips up
and actually states a clear opinion, following which he has to squirm,
wriggle, and run away from the consequences.
James
--
If I have seen further than others, it is
by treading on the toes of giants.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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28 Jan 2005 06:32:13 PM |
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"James Annan" <still_the_same_me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3603hsF4pf2hfU1@individual.net...
The Ancient One wrote:
When and if I decide to take a firm stand on a matter I post under my
real name,
Well there you go then. It's throwaway drivel from "The Ancient One", when
using your real name you actually post what you believe.
I always post what I believe, I post under my real name when I'm taking a
firm stand and need to back up my statements with credibility.
Of course, there are exceptions, like Steve Schulin who generally posts
semantically valid but content-free drivel, but occasionally slips up and
actually states a clear opinion, following which he has to squirm,
wriggle, and run away from the consequences.
Never heard of him. Of course, aside from isulting others I've yet to see
anything of value from you on the topic of this thread, not even an opinion.
Seems you are just here to troll.
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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29 Jan 2005 10:15:21 PM |
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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:"James Annan" <still_the_same_me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:news:3603hsF4pf2hfU1@individual.net...
:> The Ancient One wrote:
:>
:>> When and if I decide to take a firm stand on a matter I post under my
:>> real name,
:>
:> Well there you go then. It's throwaway drivel from "The Ancient One", when
:> using your real name you actually post what you believe.
:
:I always post what I believe, I post under my real name when I'm taking a
:firm stand and need to back up my statements with credibility.
See? Even you believe that folks not posting under their real names
don't merit being given any credibility.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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30 Jan 2005 10:07:08 AM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
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:"James Annan" <still_the_same_me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:news:3603hsF4pf2hfU1@individual.net...
:> The Ancient One wrote:
:>
:>> When and if I decide to take a firm stand on a matter I post under my
:>> real name,
:>
:> Well there you go then. It's throwaway drivel from "The Ancient One",
when
:> using your real name you actually post what you believe.
:
:I always post what I believe, I post under my real name when I'm taking a
:firm stand and need to back up my statements with credibility.
See? Even you believe that folks not posting under their real names
don't merit being given any credibility.
As I stated before, I'm posting a personal opinion here, don't know where
some of these people live but in America I have the right to voice an
opinion on any subject I choose.
Where I stating it as a proven fact I would indeed agree that my real
identity is needed to give it substance, I'vee never said otherwise.
The problem here that is others read more into my posts than I say, the
problem is theirs.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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30 Jan 2005 12:36:07 PM |
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:6mnov0dnk95iucj47l870pn2u0h9j82foa@4ax.com...
:> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:> :
:> :"James Annan" <still_the_same_me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:> :news:3603hsF4pf2hfU1@individual.net...
:> :> The Ancient One wrote:
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:> :>> When and if I decide to take a firm stand on a matter I post under my
:> :>> real name,
:> :>
:> :> Well there you go then. It's throwaway drivel from "The Ancient One", when
:> :> using your real name you actually post what you believe.
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:> :I always post what I believe, I post under my real name when I'm taking a
:> :firm stand and need to back up my statements with credibility.
:>
:> See? Even you believe that folks not posting under their real names
:> don't merit being given any credibility.
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:As I stated before, I'm posting a personal opinion here, don't know where
:some of these people live but in America I have the right to voice an
:opinion on any subject I choose.
Correct. What you miss is that EVERYONE ELSE also has that right and
they also have the right to decide just how much weight to give to
your opinion. Many people give it damned little weight when posted
from hiding behind a pseudonym.
:Where I stating it as a proven fact I would indeed agree that my real
:identity is needed to give it substance, I'vee never said otherwise.
:The problem here that is others read more into my posts than I say, the
:problem is theirs.
No, the problem is that you want them to consider your opinion. Many
give it little consideration when you are posting from behind a
pseudonym. The problem is yours.
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"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
30 Jan 2005 01:07:00 PM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
:> See? Even you believe that folks not posting under their real names
:> don't merit being given any credibility.
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:As I stated before, I'm posting a personal opinion here, don't know where
:some of these people live but in America I have the right to voice an
:opinion on any subject I choose.
Correct. What you miss is that EVERYONE ELSE also has that right and
they also have the right to decide just how much weight to give to
your opinion. Many people give it damned little weight when posted
from hiding behind a pseudonym.
I didn't miss that at all, my area of dispute is that posting under a
pseudonym automatically makes one a troll, it does not, there are numerous
respected posters who post only under pseudonyms.
I could care less if they respect my opinion, only when they try to stop me
from expressing it.
:Where I stating it as a proven fact I would indeed agree that my real
:identity is needed to give it substance, I'vee never said otherwise.
:The problem here that is others read more into my posts than I say, the
:problem is theirs.
No, the problem is that you want them to consider your opinion. Many
give it little consideration when you are posting from behind a
pseudonym. The problem is yours.
They want me to accept their opinions in direct cotradiction to large
amounts of evidence. If I told them my real name, address, phone number,
date of birth, education, etc, they still would not respect me or my
opinions one but more than they do now, I know, I tried it your way for
years, my first usenet post was in February 1997. Using my real name never
made one bit of difference, people believe WHAT they want to believe,
regardless of WHO says it, and discount everything they don't want to
believe.
This way, at least when some brain dead moron decides he doesn't like me, I
don't care, because he doesn't know who I am.
In groups with intelligent, well informed, courteous posters,like Sci Astro
Amateur, I use my real names.
Frankly, the majority of posters in your little group are certifiably nuts.
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"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
Seems to describe you to a "T", we both share the same views but you are so
fixated on my name you can't see the issue being discussed.
Come back when you clear your head of hate and can read beyond the name.
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| User: "ošin" |
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28 Jan 2005 06:08:11 PM |
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What is the significance of having a name. Does that make th opinion any
more sound? There are very good reasons for maintaining some degree of
anonymity on usenet..
But by far the most common reason is that the poster is a troll who is too
embarassed to own up to the ***** they spout.
You have made a study of this?
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| User: "James Annan" |
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28 Jan 2005 06:13:44 PM |
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ošin wrote:
What is the significance of having a name. Does that make th opinion any
more sound? There are very good reasons for maintaining some degree of
anonymity on usenet..
But by far the most common reason is that the poster is a troll who is too
embarassed to own up to the ***** they spout.
You have made a study of this?
Yes, I've been reading usenet for a number of years.
James
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If I have seen further than others, it is
by treading on the toes of giants.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
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| User: "Harold Brooks" |
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| Title: Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible! |
27 Jan 2005 11:04:13 AM |
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In article <10vi5ttsu9bkq73@corp.supernews.com>,
onlytheone@thetopknows.com says...
"Mike Rhino" <october2003@alexanderpics.com> wrote in message
news:pA%Jd.2829$d12.1301@twister.socal.rr.com...
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
[snip crap]
Tell it to New England.
There is a difference between amount of snow and temperature. Lots of
snow
does not contradict global warming. It's just one place and one week.
The
overall average temperature could still go up.
This was the first year since record keeping began in 1870 that Indianapolis
made it through the entire year without reaching 90F even once. ;-)
And still managed to average 1 F above normal for the year.
--
Harold Brooks
hebrooks87 hotmail.com
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| User: "The Ancient One" |
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27 Jan 2005 12:34:05 PM |
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"Harold Brooks" <hebrooks87@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c62db073952aeb2989691@news.individual.net...
In article <10vi5ttsu9bkq73@corp.supernews.com>,
onlytheone@thetopknows.com says...
"Mike Rhino" <october2003@alexanderpics.com> wrote in message
news:pA%Jd.2829$d12.1301@twister.socal.rr.com...
"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:41F813D2.DE63B474@hate.spam.net...
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
[snip crap]
Tell it to New England.
There is a difference between amount of snow and temperature. Lots of
snow
does not contradict global warming. It's just one place and one week.
The
overall average temperature could still go up.
This was the first year since record keeping began in 1870 that
Indianapolis
made it through the entire year without reaching 90F even once. ;-)
And still managed to average 1 F above normal for the year.
--
Harold Brooks
hebrooks87 hotmail.com
If that's Global Warming I'm all for it. ;-)
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| User: "ošin" |
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27 Jan 2005 11:37:06 AM |
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This was the first year since record keeping began in 1870 that
Indianapolis
made it through the entire year without reaching 90F even once. ;-)
And still managed to average 1 F above normal for the year.
What is normal for the year?
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