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Science was Einstein's Religion. |
Hi All, Einstein believed _True_ theorists are Sober_Minded metaphysicists,
saying:
Every _True_ theorist is a kind of tamed metaphysicist,
no matter how pure a positivist he may fancy himself.
[ ... He believes in ]
a conceptual system built on premises of great simplicity.
He also believed randomness was _Always_
a failure to measure some intrinsic causality. For example, he once said:
The scientist is possessed by the sense of universal causation.
The future, to him, is every whit as necessary and determined as the past.
__ See Albert Einstein's The_World_As_I_See_It
StephenJayGould.ORG/ctrl/einstein_religion.html
Consequently, he felt physical processes determined absolutely everything,
including man's desires. See WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Physicalism
For example, he once said:
I do not believe in freedom of the will. Schopenhauer's words:
“ Man can do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wills ”
accompany me in all situations throughout my life
and reconcile me with the actions of others
even if they are rather painful to me.
This awareness of the lack of freedom of will
preserves me from taking too seriously myself and my fellow men
as acting and deciding individuals and from losing my temper."
__ From a speech by Albert Einstein to the German League of Human Rights,
Berlin, in the autumn of 1932, See: EinsteinAndReligion.COM/credo.html
Driven by such a faith,
Eistein became a master at finding once hidden causalities.
For example, his General Relativity explained exactly how
a clock with 10 ^ -16 second accuracy ticks faster
with a minute increase in altitude... long before it was empirically proven.
See: Time Too Good to Be True, PhysicsToday.ORG/vol-59/iss-3/p10.html
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15 May 2006 05:28:26 PM |
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Like I told you ,,nothing on this planet gets to you or anyone untill
traders trade and ships and old sailors rot at the docks.
Why a price 71 cent rusha 110 cent usa =BF
The strongest markets paying the most .
A dude has 300 pounds of aluminum and the
scrapyard pays 110 cents but its 100 miles away . So IF the scrapyard
is 100 miles away it will cost $ 100 bucks to get the scrap in a truck
and to the scrapyard and back.
$ 300 bucks of aluminum in the dudes back yard is worth $ 200 bucks
wile its in the back yard because the scrayard is 100 miles away .
A 18 wheeler cost 250 cents per mile so 20 tons is $ 250 bucks per
100 miles.
The truck is $ 2500 bucks per 1000 miles.
200 trucks is $ 250,000 per 1000 miles.
But thats only 1000 ton ship that used 2 ton fuel to go 1000 miles in 2
days .
If you own the ship you can haul it for
$ 500 fuel $ 5000 crew .
a 20 ton containor is 3500 bucks translantic 5000 bucks pacific 6500
global.
But then again if you own the boat you have a boat to load .
4/3 of the time the seller coulnt haul it on a ship unlesshe packed
containors or if he has 60,000 tons and cant find a charter he dont have
aa ship to load.
I dont nead help loading any of my ships jeff ..Im helping you load 1
for your self.
If its 60,000 ton or 100,000 ton you'll nead one of mine .
They have the same problem ...who the fucks hording ships ? : ))
I allways make shure I keep 12 ships 100,000 ton and a bunch of small
ships . 70 ships 180,000 ton
and buy ships left and right.
Jeff ask around and finds evryone is doing it.
The whole damb plant runs on it.
T.J. is an =C3=BCber optimistic/enthusiastic hound dog.
Group: sci.physics Date: Mon, May 15, 2006, 3:35pm (EDT+4) From:
Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM (Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf)
Hi T_Wake, As you've noted, most of the people I've contacted are trying
to do the exact same thing as I am; i.e. finding the odd buyer who's
selling at a discount.
The London metal exchage is not the only market; prices very a lot
because currencies, languages and markets vary a lot. Hence, arbitrage
opertunities can be found... if you can hunt.
T.J. ships his U.S./Canadian pulp internationally; his ships are
returning empty, and shipping containers are very expensive. Bulk
comodities are very _Simple_, unchanging year after year, ...pulp is
just pulp, oil is oil, wheat is wheat, aluminum is aluminum.
T.J. is an =C3=BCber optimistic/enthusiastic hound dog, sniffing out
international sellers,
people who likely know very little about English or trade leads.
How can he do this ? Because he speaks the language of shipping and the
direct sales/purchases of comodities.
I don't understand his =C3=BCber optimism/enthusiasm, but I suspect it
has a lot to do with why he's so rich.
Although I'm the oposite of that, =C3=BCber pessimistic/leery, I'll
switch my colors for awhile for the experience/money.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Deisel costs 89 cents a gallon ? |
15 May 2006 06:14:33 PM |
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Hi T.J., A thousand ton ship, hauling a thousand tons,
travels 500 miles a day, consuming one ton of fuel per day,
costing only USD 250 per day in fuel and USD 2,500 per day for crew ?
That's 21 miles per hour.
Deisel is 1.87392923 pounds per liter,
there are 3.7854118 liters in a gallon,
so a gallon weighs 7.1 pounds, 1.87392923 * 3.7854118 ,
and a U.S. ton is 282 gallons, 2,000 / 7.1 pounds,
so that's only 89 cents a gallon, 250 / 282... what ? !
Deisel costs USD 3.50 per gallon here.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Deisel costs 89 cents a gallon ? |
15 May 2006 07:03:11 PM |
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I $ 350 pet fuel ton usa .
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: A ton of deisel in America costs USD 1.24 a gallon. |
15 May 2006 07:23:22 PM |
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Hi T.J, Re: Diesel prices, You told me: I pay $ 350 per fuel ton, USA.
There are 282 gallons in that ton, so you're paying only USD 1.24 per gallon,
350 / 282 . That's possible, I imagine.
It's USD 3.50 per gallon here in the big city.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: A ton of deisel in America costs USD 1.24 a gallon. |
15 May 2006 07:56:51 PM |
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I know why I love rock islands and ridge reef islands so much .
I grew up in the tongass islands out between islands
Palau%20islands%20postcard.jpg
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tongass.jpg
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boath are rainforest islands .
boath are ausome .
going to tongass soon
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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15 May 2006 10:02:18 PM |
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Hi T.J., Re: Your adolescent years here:
OurForests.ORG/places/tongass.jpg
Upload.WikiMedia.ORG/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Tongassmap3.gif
comapred to the rock islands and ridge reef islands here:
Cifr.IT/Palau%20islands%20postcard.jpg
You commented:
Both are rainforest islands. Both are awsome. Going to Tongass soon.
I'd _Love_ to visit you and Tongass.
After Seattle, that's my favorite place... as you know.
Yesterday, my sister gave me a ride to visit my mom, a 50 mile trip.
I got very sick... I had to get out, throw up and walk the last few miles,
dodging speeding traffic on a narrow road, hemmed in by a ditch.
The cars were so close to me I could reach out and touch them if I wanted to.
I once got so car sick on a bus that I passed out after I got out
after crossing the floating bridge that spans Lake Washington.
So I go years without riding in any vehicle of any kind.
Other than walking the half block to campus or emailing, I don't commute.
I don't get vehicle sick when I'm very calm, relaxed and well rested.
But, and this is the kicker, I can't predict if I'll be relaxed enough or not !
As much as I love Tongass, I might have to back out at the last minute.
My life sucks like that... I couldn't be a sailor.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I couldn't be a sailor. |
16 May 2006 12:31:41 AM |
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$ 5 mil 34000 ton
nice boat for ya .
10,000 tons pays it off and puts 22 cents in your pocket too.
Thats 1/3 of a load on it just once .
Go ahead and fill it up as long as your at it.
ShipExpo.com
Address:http://shipexpo.com/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=2486
Audio:http://shipexpo.com/_content/sounds/hummer.wav
well you make 5 and own a boat worth 5 so yer worth 10 il if ya buy
this and only got 10000 tons on it.
usa inspector can slap a usa flag on it for you the owner .
You own the ship and are american you have irect access to the trade
banks and the markets.
Its funny where you can sail with a usa flag .
like east coast usa .
alluminum buyer evry 100 fucking feet.
None of them would buy a ship.
a bank backs a usa flagged ship .
The usa trade bank by law favors a usa insured ship flagged in usa .
They cant inspect a indoseasan boat untill it got to usa s the bank
cant get insurance on it .
I can get a china boat inspected by usa inspector in hk and flag it
usa .
so can you .
But because its inspected insured and flagged then the bank can back
it.
stick a usa crew on it and the insurance is 3500 per year.
Then boath the trade bank and usa buyers will back you and foren
competion cant pay cash at the dock and load thier own boat .
spending 5 mil for a 34000 ton ship to dop aluminum in and go sit in
the usa market is one hell of a way to earn a few mil...but it works.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I couldn't be a sailor. |
16 May 2006 12:42:00 AM |
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Maybe you juust want to go small.
If you cant think big think jst big enouph.
800 ton x $ 700 to $500 profit
$ 400,000 to $ 560000
this boat cost 300,000 to own .
you should own the boat and make 200,000 frst time and make 500,000 the
next time.
ShipExpo.com
Address:http://shipexpo.com/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=2559
Audio:http://shipexpo.com/_content/sounds/hummer.wav
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: ShipExpo.COM even shows the rust ! |
16 May 2006 07:27:58 AM |
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Hi T.J., Re: ShipExpo.COM/sales/vessel_detail.asp?FileNo=2559
Your GlobalStar and WebTV would probably choke on these large pictures,
but they're fun to look at if you can... they even show the rust ! :
ShipExpo.COM/sales/vessel_photos.asp?ID=2559
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: ShipExpo.COM even shows the rust ! |
16 May 2006 10:29:04 AM |
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I look withh my pc at the rust too.
I dont look at them with webtv.
I dont post here with my pc so I posted the page with webtv.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I couldn't be a sailor. |
16 May 2006 12:00:53 AM |
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You never know your moving on this boat .
its 33000 tons and has 4 pods stablisers .
the doc has ***** that works too.
once in a great wile I pound some waves but then theirs the lower
decks you wouldnt know it.
Get a room center and under the waterline nd you wount hear or feal a
thing .
Ive never spilt coffie on this boat.
You would .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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16 May 2006 12:03:47 AM |
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we go way out of our way to stay in easy seas.
Google Image Result for
http://www.kayakconnection.com/KC_Images4/Palau_60.jpeg
Address:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kayakconnection.com/KC_Images4/Palau_60.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.kayakconnection.com/KC_Pages/Worldwide_Kayak_Tours.html&h=320&w=480&sz=68&tbnid=rjsBD5NmRN17jM:&tbnh=84&tbnw=126&hl=en&start=75&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drock%2Bislands%2B%26start%3D60%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I couldn't be a sailor. |
16 May 2006 12:57:42 AM |
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$ 5 million bucks
60,000 ton ship
biult 1981
nice boat.
Load this one , you buy it for 5 mil and make about 30 million in your
pocket real quick.
Ship for sale (Details)
Address:http://www.shipbroker.net/list/detail1.asp?ship_no=48753
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Raman are 10 cents each and my food stamps pay for it. |
16 May 2006 07:07:19 AM |
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Hi T.J., Re: ShipBroker.NET/list/detail1.asp?ship_no=48753
You buy ships like I buy Raman instant-noodles:
Movie-Montage.COM/images/upload/156.jpg
but Raman are 10 cents each and my food-stamps pay for it.
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16 May 2006 01:02:34 AM |
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27000 ton loads with this $ 3 mil ship.
Ship for sale (Details)
Address:http://www.shipbroker.net/list/detail1.asp?ship_no=48753
10,000 tons buys it ad puts 8 million in yer pocket.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: They want a deposit up front. |
16 May 2006 06:54:26 AM |
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Hi T.J., Re: ShipBroker.NET/list/detail1.asp?ship_no=48753
You told me:
27 thousand ton loads with this $ 3 mil ship.
10 thousand tons buys it and puts 8 million in yer pocket.
If, and only if, you can find a discount price on 10 thousand tons.
Aluminum prices are soaring and people are hoarding, not haggling.
They want a deposit up front.
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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16 May 2006 07:06:01 AM |
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Jeff...Relf wrote:
They want a deposit up front.
Uh-oh... is reality about to intrude?
- Randy
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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16 May 2006 11:26:00 AM |
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Should i find the factories in rusha and vensualia and riga ?
we know thier prices and have not talked to them yet in email =BF
Find the true seller of that 1000 tons of copper at $ 3900 US per ton
and we;;ll buy it .
Find the true seller of aluminum ingots and we will buy it cash and
take posesion of it .
find no more middle men that know where it is and want to make 10 % .
Find sellers with secure accounts.
find the factorys and scrapyards ,,youknow where to find them and what
the prices are.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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16 May 2006 11:44:45 AM |
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Hi T.J., You told me:
Should I find the factories in Russia and Venezuela and Riga ?
Yes, of course.
You asked me:
We know their prices and have not talked to them yet in email ¿
We have not talked to them yet, not at all. We don't know their prices.
You told me:
Find the true seller of that 1,000 tons of copper at $ 3900 US per ton
and we'll buy it .
Find the true seller of aluminum ingots and we will buy it cash
and take posesion of it.
Ok, I've place that in my to-do list... I'll get back to you later.
You told me:
Find no more middle men that know where it is and want to make 10 %.
Find sellers with secure accounts.
Find the factorys and scrapyards, you know where to find them and
what the prices are.
I agree.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Finding the producers in Russia and Venezuela. |
16 May 2006 02:58:38 PM |
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I said someone in rusha has 100,00 tons for sale at 71 cents brand new
ingot.
BRATSK ALUMINIUM
Address:http://www.genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/smelters/bratsk.htm
Changed:12:03 PM on Friday, August 19, 2005
Bratsk makes 1 million tons a year ask them for as much as they would
like to sell.
get a quote for we pay cash at thier dock.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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16 May 2006 03:11:22 PM |
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Hi T.J., Re: Bogoslovs Aluminium
www.Genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/smelters/bogoslovs.htm
You said I should ask for as much as I can get, so how about I say this:
What is the most MT of aluminum ingots, any grade, I can buy ?
Dear Sirs,
What is the most MT of aluminum ingots, any grade, I can buy ?
If you can give me a firm quote, and the price is right,
and I have inspected it at your dock,
then my bank, ExIm.GOV, will pay cash to your bank
and I will take possession of the goods there.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Bogoslovs Aluminium. |
16 May 2006 04:08:04 PM |
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Cash is ok with sual .. get a quote on how much and what price for
aluminum from Sual .
they may price too high butask anyway
Bogoslovs Aluminium.
Group: sci.physics Date: Tue, May 16, 2006, 8:11pm (EDT+4) From:
Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM (Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf)
Hi T.J., Re: Bogoslovs Aluminium
=A0=A0=A0=A0www.Genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/smelters/bogoslovs.htm
You said I should ask for as much as I can get, so how about I say this:
=A0=A0=A0=A0su...@sual.com
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0What is the most MT of aluminum ingots, any
grade, I can buy ?
=A0=A0=A0=A0Dear Sirs,
=A0=A0=A0=A0What is the most MT of aluminum ingots, any grade, I can buy
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=A0=A0=A0=A0If you can give me a firm quote, and the price is right, and
I have inspected it at your dock,
=A0=A0=A0=A0then my bank, ExIm.GOV, will pay cash to your bank and I
will take possession of the goods there.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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16 May 2006 07:39:56 PM |
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Thats a fair shot at earning a few million bucks.
Thats finding the best prices on the planet and asking for it.
after all,, you only nead 1 once .
if you use the import export bank of the united states in washington
that bank will secure account the buyers money on contract so the buyer
knows his money is safe with the bank untill the invoise at his dock.
You will barrow the money from the gov bank and thats bacasue they
can secure account with the russian bank and seller.
I bet you feel good about these offers.
1 seller at 71 cents away from a few million bucks.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Finding the producers in Russia and Venezuela. |
16 May 2006 03:10:15 PM |
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SAYAN ALUMINIUM
Address:http://www.genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/smelters/sayansk.htm
Changed:12:11 PM on Friday, August 19, 2005
500,000 tons year.
ask him ,,be nice .
trade leads show us where and how much.
it showed us theres 100,000s of tons in rusha for sale at a low price .
as soon as you know the prices are around 65 to 75 cents then find all
the sellers by asking all the true sellers .
anne and the other moron told us where and how much.
Now these factories I will be happy to pay up front !! bet your *****
they have a secure account and I know Ill get what I paid for or Ill sue
and take te plant or the bank will.
Thier banks are trade partners like yours is.
ya hay ,,dont count the little dudes out.
the factories smelters that only put out 25000 ton a year might like to
move 5000 tons .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Finding the producers in Russia and Venezuela. |
16 May 2006 02:53:00 PM |
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yes we do know thier prices.
We tracked the prices to them is why were shopping there .
Aluminium Industry WWW Server - Smelters - Eastern Europe
Address:http://www.genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/e_europe.htm Changed:12:13 PM
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Thats the tons of production per year under the factory name.
Pick the big ones and work your way threw and offer to buy ask for
quotes cash on thier dock.
You know where and at what price .
Start at 5000 to 10000 tons .
evyone we found with a good price was trying to buy in rusha ..
so now foget the trade leads that lead you to the market where you can
buy at your target price. Hunt to buy 5000 to 10000 ton of aluminum
in rusha . email companies
in rushaand ask for quotes on 5000 and 10000 tons we pay cash befor we
load our boat.
Aluminium Industry WWW Server - Smelters - Eastern Europe
Address:http://www.genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/e_europe.htm Changed:12:13 PM
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/e_europe.htm. |
16 May 2006 03:19:58 PM |
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Hi T.J., Re: www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/e_europe.htm
You told me:
That's the tons of production per year under the factory name.
Pick the big ones and work your way threw and
offer to buy, ask for quotes cash on thier dock.
You know where and at what price.
Start at 5,000 to 10,000 tons.
Everyone we found with a good price was trying to buy in Russia.
So now foget the trade leads that lead you to
the market where you can buy at your target price.
Hunt to buy 5,000 to 10,000 ton of aluminum in Russia.
email companies in Russia and ask for quotes on 5,000 and 10,000 tons
we pay cash befor we load our boat.
Ok, I'll do that, how about this wording:
How about I send this out:
May I buy 5 to 10 thousand MT of aluminum ingots, any grade ?
Dear Sirs,
May I buy 5 to 10 thousand metric tonnes of aluminum ingots, any grade ?
If you can give me a firm quote, and the price is right,
and I have inspected it at your dock,
then my bank, ExIm.GOV, will pay cash to your bank
and I will take possession of the goods there.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/e_europe.htm. |
16 May 2006 04:12:21 PM |
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OK send ,,
sual is a big one ..just ask how much at what price quote for cash at
thier dock.
we dont nead to see thier load at the dock first.
we just want priced at the dock with us doing the shipping .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/e_europe.htm. |
16 May 2006 04:17:02 PM |
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find the vensualia plant too and ask them.
I think thier price in vensualia is cheep.
now your not realy hunting but shopping to buy where you know where to
shop.
I know there's allot of aluminum for 71 cents ingots in russia .
or at 65 cents too.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: I've now made over 20 offers to buy ! |
16 May 2006 06:46:42 PM |
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Hi T.J., With the emails I sent below, I've now made over 20 offers to buy !
Re: www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/e_europe.htm You told me:
Find the Venezuela plant too and ask them.
I think thier price in Venezuela is cheap.
Googling: Venezuela Aluminium site:QC.CA
I found www.Genisim.QC.CA/aluminum/smelters/smlist.htm
and then www.Alcasa.COM.VE, 185,000 tons per year,
Take a look at these Extrusion billets: www.Alcasa.COM.VE/Imagenes/FC2.JPG
This was the best email address I could find, not an Alcasa.COM.VE address:
VPC Industrial Promotion:
VENALUM, 430,000 tons per year, has:
They have no website. Both of these companies are state owned and operated.
You told me:
OK send, Sual is a big one... just ask how much at what price quote
for cash at their dock.
We don't need to see their load at the dock first.
We just want priced at the dock with us doing the shipping.
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Change it to anything over 5000 tons.
and let me see it again.
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Ask slovalco for any amount over 5,000 tons,
please quote price at your dock.
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Cash is ok with sual .. get a quote on how much and
what price for aluminum from Sual, they may price too high, but ask anyway.
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SAYAN ALUMINIUM
www.genisim.qc.ca/aluminum/smelters/sayansk.htm
500,000 tons year. Ask him, be nice.
That led to Rusal, Rusal.COM, in Moscow Russia,
and their Aluminium Exporter, Mr. Michail Divilkovskiy.
These guys speak good English... and are very online !
You told me:
Trade leads show us where and how much.
It showed us theres 100,000s of tons in Russia for sale at a low price.
As soon as you know the prices are around 65 to 75 cents then
find all the sellers by asking all the true sellers.
Anne and the other moron told us where and how much.
Now these factories I will be happy to pay up front ! ! bet your *****
they have a secure account and I know I'll get what I paid
or I'll sue and take the plant, or the bank will.
Their banks are trade partners like yours is.
Ya hay, don't count the little dudes out.
The factory smelters that only put out 25,000 ton a year
might like to move 5,000 tons .
Ok, here are the emails I sent out:
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Sirs of www.Alcasa.COM.VE in Venezuela,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
I'll pay cash up front to take possession of the goods at your dock.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Mr. Leonardo Bezara of VENALUM in Venezuela,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
I'll pay cash up front to take possession of the goods at your dock.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Mr. Michail Divilkovskiy of Rusal,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
I'll pay cash up front to take possession of the goods at your dock.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Sirs at Sual.COM,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
I'll pay cash up front to take possession of the goods at your dock.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Sirs at SlovAlco.SK,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
I'll pay cash up front to take possession of the goods at your dock.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
Dear Mr. Stanislav N of Russia House Far East Co., Ltd,
What's your quote for 5 thousand MT or more of aluminum, any grade ?
If you can give me a firm quote, and the price is right,
and I have inspected it at your dock in Vladivostok,
then my bank, ExIm.GOV, will pay cash to your bank
and I will take possession of the goods there.
Thanks, Jeff Relf in Seattle Washington, U.S.A.
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| Title: Re: I've now made over 20 offers to buy ! |
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Good job ,,now yer cooking with gas .
Thats not the little dudes that colect scrrap.
You can find a few of those in the same countries at lower prices.
anyway you keep the list and stay on them till one sells .
If they all dont sell !!
The buyers at budwzer let lost in the market and run into allot of
anne's and allways wind up paying market pic plus shipping on charter
for ams and legs .
You stay ready and work on these type offers in arias we know we can
buy at around 71 cents .
1 ,, you found anne's seller and will beet anne's price and have the
best backing usa gov .
2 , the sellers you found have secure accounts
and our banks can do bizz with them.
The sellers market is at 71 cents.
The buyers market is at 125 at buyers dock.
10 cents shipping and broker
115 cents beets it by 10 cents and is easyer and insured on a usa
flagged ship and in sucure lc account.
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