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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Brad Guth"
Date: 01 Nov 2004 02:51:39 AM
Object: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK
Thus far the likes of "Mailgate" and "Ponderers’ Guild" has not become
one of the bad guys, and not because they haven't banned my research or
even restricted with the usual wall-of-words limitations, or even as
based upon some list of bad-words, such as what I've shared thus far as
persay what's dead wrong about the way humanity has been essentially
snookered, with a few too many of us being snookered to death, with
others well along their way to a somewhat unexpected demise if a certain
warlord invents the notion that you've got WMD.
Forums that suck are generally of those intent upon staying the
mainstream course, and doing such without remorse nor concerns of future
consequences. In other words, it's the intellectual incest of the
cold-war mentality or mind-set that's remaining in auto-self-destruct
mode.
As compared to the horrifically poor taste and verbal flatulence of
active members of the following forums that suck, my contributions were
relatively mild and hardly X-Rated, though somewhat controversial if not
provocative (button pushing) for those members of the mainstream or bust
sorts of cults that were insisting upon the past, present and future
remaining where-is as-is, as though absolutely everything is just fine
and dandy and somehow surmountable about having those fully occupied
aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings, and of physics and
the science related being politically conditional, and so forth.
uplink.space http://uplink.space.com/ubbthreads.php
Google Groups http://groups.google.com/groups?group=sci&hl=en
irishastronomy http://www.irishastronomy.org/boards/
BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2.cgi?board=science
apollohoax http://apollohoax.com/
badastronomy http://badastronomy.com/
Sciforums http://www.sciforums.com/
You and I can certainly add a few other forums and comments to this
list, and I hope that we manage to do just that because, there's a few
of us village idiots that remain to be assimilated into their mainstream
collective of intellectual incest, that which essentially represents the
mainstream status quo, or else.
I'm fairly certain there's few if any honest folks that can risk getting
involved, especially if they're under the warm and fuzzy eye of our
NSA/DHS ECHELON. However, if you are remaining interested in knowing
about other life outside of Earth, sharing in whatever is the truth and
nothing but the truth, perhaps you should risk another good look-see at
what I've uncovered;
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA~IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 01 Nov 2004 09:16:52 AM
A crank (at least on the web and on USENET) is an individual
that makes claims, or holds views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment.
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User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 08 Nov 2004 05:27:06 AM

Sam Wormleywrote:

A crank (at least on the web and on USENET) is an individual

that makes claims, or holds views, that are contradicted by
the empirical data of observation and experiment.

The laws of physics are hardly those being "contradicted by the
empirical data of observation and experiment". At least I'm not the
one contradicting squat worth of science truth or consequences.
There's certainly nothing about our moon or Venus that's contradicted
by way of anything you've got to offer, and surely them Kodak
photographic laws of physics are not being skewed, although actually,
them photos acquired upon the moon should have been color shifted
quite a bit.
As for other life once upon a time, and perhaps even still surviving
upon Venus, them laws of physics are doing just fine and dandy. At
least any halfwit village idiot moron could have figured out how to
survive if it were gradually getting hotter and hotter by the year,
say by a nasty factor of 1°K/year. Of course, as of lately Venus is
cooling off at perhaps as much as 1°K/year, though even 0.1°K/yr is
still an improvement.
Of course, any decent science forum would have loads of comments on
behalf of such other life, and certainly nothing but amplification
upon what's positive and doable on behalf of our moon and Venus. Only
an arrogant fool would insist upon pretending that all there is to
know is NASA moderated, or else.
Update/summary page: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
A list of other topics: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA~IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 08 Nov 2004 09:39:11 AM
BradGuth wrote:

At
least any half wit village idiot moron could have figured out how to
survive if it were gradually getting hotter and hotter by the year,
say by a nasty factor of 1°K/year.

Humans would certainly die out within a few decades of warming at
1°K/year... no matter how smart some are.
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User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 26 Nov 2004 01:27:50 AM

Sam Wormleywrote:

BradGuth wrote:


At
least any half wit village idiot moron could have figured out how

to

survive if it were gradually getting hotter and hotter by the year,
say by a nasty factor of 1°K/year.

Humans would certainly die out within a few decades of warming at
1°K/year... no matter how smart some are.[/quote:d6af2e0fc8]
You're certainly dead right about the easily snookered village idiots
that wouldn't bother applying one iota of expertise nor physics as to
save their own butt, much less help another soul, as those folks would
just as soon die off right hear and now, not to mention attempting
anything on Venus.
What makes you think that whomever's on Venus is anywhere as dumb and
dumber than Earth humans still looking for those invisible WMD?
or
What part of physics-101 can't be applied on behalf of surviving
Venus?
What's insurmountable about Venus when there's more renewable energy
about than you can shake a flaming stick at?
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA~IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 26 Nov 2004 07:59:05 AM
BradGuth wrote:

What's insurmountable about Venus when there's more renewable energy
about than you can shake a flaming stick at?

o liquid water
o place to dump excess heat
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User: ""

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 09 Dec 2004 03:46:34 AM
Dear Sam Wormley, how many teratonnes of fresh water would you like?
You do realize about vacuum distillation?
CO2 makes for a terrific freon replacement, especially at such good
density. Thermal conduction mode is actually quite capable of dealing
with another 100=B0K, or even 200=B0K still isn't outside of what's
doable with existing alloys. We have lots of hot and nasty qualified
technology that's right at home at 811=B0K.
Besides, why should humans even think of going to another planet,
especially when we haven't finished raping and pillaging the one we're
on?
Regards, Brad Guth
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 09 Dec 2004 09:59:52 AM
wrote:

Dear Sam Wormley, how many teratonnes of fresh water would you like?

You do realize about vacuum distillation?

CO2 makes for a terrific freon replacement, especially at such good
density. Thermal conduction mode is actually quite capable of dealing
with another 100°K, or even 200°K still isn't outside of what's
doable with existing alloys. We have lots of hot and nasty qualified
technology that's right at home at 811°K.

Besides, why should humans even think of going to another planet,
especially when we haven't finished raping and pillaging the one we're
on?

All the laws of thermodynamics apply.
Water?
Soil?
Hunger?
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 20 Jan 2005 07:19:36 PM
OK Sam, obviously you're not thinking sufficiently outside the box.
You're not thinking silica exoskeletals and/or even lizard folk, much
less smart ones.
How many mega tonnes worth of pure H2O would you like?
How many megawatts of absolutely clean energy would you like?
Dirt; I'm not exactly sure why Venus wouldn't have dirt?
What part of your physics-101 doesn't apply to Venus?
BTW; I'm not the village idiot suggesting that Venus is for
pathetically dumb and dumber as well as arrogant and bigoted humans. As
how stupid would that be?
Have you even looked at the images:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 20 Jan 2005 09:24:33 PM
Sam Wormley,
As for that question I missed about "hunger"; why wouldn't they use
'take out'?
At least pizzas could get baked upon the last minute of delivery, and
otherwise nothing should ever get cold.
I'm thinking of an abode constructed of R-1024/m basalt/silica
composites, and their self-cleaning oven being an opening in the wall
that's merely control-vented to the exterior, having that triple pane
silica glass door, and everything on the menu based upon seconds of
baking instead of minutes or hours. A 25 pound turkey in 25 seconds. A
happy meal in 0.5 seconds.
Just think, no dish washing, no clean up whatsoever. Toss whatever
outside and it's gone for good.
Their porta-potties being porta-incinerators seems perfectly sanitary.
However, their backyard vertical tunnel as affording the individual or
community tower of power that's easily extracting if need be a megawatt
of energy from the 4+bar/km and 10=B0K/km differential is just the
ticket for direct (single pass) CO2 thermal cycle cooling, thus boss
air conditioning and ice cold beer isn't a problem, nor is CO2-->CO/O2.
Might I keep asking; What part of physics isn't allowed to function on
behalf of Venus?
If good insulation can manage to keep either hot or cold in, why can it
just accomplish half the job of keeping hot out, especially the merely
conductive form of hot?
I suppose next you're going to be insisting that any rigid airship
simply can't possibly function on Venus (perhaps that's having
something to due with their having too much buoyancy and only 90.5%
gravity)?
And, I suppose you can't think of anything positive to do with the
likes of unlimited CO/O2?
Is there any chance you can manage to even see the 'fluid arch', or is
that asking of something too natural upon such a geologically active
planet to exist?
Have you even looked at the images:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 01 Nov 2004 09:25:52 AM
Brad Guth wrote:


Thus far the likes of "Mailgate" and "Ponderers’ Guild" has not become
one of the bad guys, and not because they haven't banned my research

[snip]
<http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf>
http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html
"Research?" Your "research" is indistinguishable from a claim that
garbage creates flies.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 05 Feb 2005 11:07:58 AM
Uncle Al and Sam Wormley,
Once a mainstream incest cloned borg always a borg. Clearly your focused
intent as to know-thy-enemy and to continually snooker-thy-humanity goes
on and on. I may even have to add to that conclusion since you have no
apparent intentions of contributing squat.
Right about now I'd have to add to my growing list that team SETI sucks.
Another lethal decade after decades of perpetrated cold-war crapolla
down the spendy space-toilet, along with hundreds of millions of their
hard earned dollars/euros, certainly loads of dog-wagging, wasted
resources and supposed talents, and still there's no respect for Venus,
nor of ET's having eyes nor brains. I'm to guess the only qualified SETI
ETs are not only blind but seriously dumb and dumber than even we could
possibly have imagined.
In spite of all the orchestrated flak imposed against my suggestions on
behalf of seriously accomplishing good and honorable intentions on
behalf of moving ISS towards the moon, I managed to create a few other
related topics, several of which are not specifically about our moon or
Titan, though in more than a few ways offering just about everything
under the sun on behalf of improving future space exploration and just
plain old space travel bang for the almighty buck/euro that's at least
indirectly related to folks utilizing our moon as a rather necessary
gravitational booster shot. Of such missions passing as close to the
moon as possible hasn't even been such a new idea, it just so happens to
coincide with the even better physics and science logic and numerous
other values of what the LSE-CM/ISS is good for.
"Terraforming the moon, before doing Mars or Venus"
"The Moon, LSE-CM/ISS, Venus and beyond, with He3 to burn"
"Lunar/Moon Space Elevator, plus another ISS within the CM"
"Space Policy Sucks, while there's Life on Venus"
"Ice Ages directly regulated by Sirius"
"SETI/GUTH Venus, no kidding"
"Terraforming the moon"
"Relocate ISS to ME-L1"
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 05 Feb 2005 04:49:53 PM
Brad Guth wrote:


Uncle Al and Sam Wormley,
Once a mainstream incest cloned borg always a borg. Clearly your focused
intent as to know-thy-enemy and to continually snooker-thy-humanity goes
on and on. I may even have to add to that conclusion since you have no
apparent intentions of contributing squat.

[snip]

"Terraforming the moon, before doing Mars or Venus"
"The Moon, LSE-CM/ISS, Venus and beyond, with He3 to burn"
"Lunar/Moon Space Elevator, plus another ISS within the CM"
"Space Policy Sucks, while there's Life on Venus"
"Ice Ages directly regulated by Sirius"
"SETI/GUTH Venus, no kidding"
"Terraforming the moon"
"Relocate ISS to ME-L1"

Res ipsa loquiter. Move Detroit to the moon. All further
developements are acceptable whatever they may be.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Feb 2005 05:55:06 PM
Dear borgs 'Uncle Al and Sam Wormley', and as always to all other's of
the NASA 'Skull and Bones' cold-war or bust collective;
How about resolving this nifty official Apollo photo that certainly
sucks big-time in more freaking ways than even I can count;
In addition to just about everything else that I've had to offer that's
not been exactly very appreciative of all those secondary radiation and
thermal-proof EVA moonsuit obtained photos that were so entirely
uneffected by all of the raw solar near-UV and UV/a spectrum energy,
and I certainly don't mean to be the continual all-knowing spoil-sport
but, please do offer to explain as to exactly how the hell our apollo
command module became miles and miles across in size.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/ch2.htm
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/hrp36b.jpg
Was this inflatable Apollo command module expansion caused from the
extreme vacuum of space, essentially causing the entire craft to
inflate/expand by a factor of several thousand to one?
Or, was their high quality mockup of the moon merely a few meters away?
I had no freaking idea that such spacecraft typically expanded by such
an enormous extent. Does that represent that our astronauts were
equally as inflated?
I guess that tells us exactly how darn little my dyslexic brain of
three remaining cells actually knows about anything. Perhaps the sun
was simply so much closer than we'd ever realized.
I'm wondering if perchance there's some math expert/wizard that can be
bothered as to accomplish whatever it takes in order to establish the
command module size as based upon cruising along at roughly 100 km off
the deck, of having the sun as being 1 AU in nearly the opposit
direction. In fact, I might just take a moment as to draw this one into
one of my AutoCad drawings in order to see what's what, then I'll
report back.
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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User: "josephus"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 23 Feb 2005 02:48:57 AM
Brad Guth wrote:

Dear borgs 'Uncle Al and Sam Wormley', and as always to all other's of
the NASA 'Skull and Bones' cold-war or bust collective;

How about resolving this nifty official Apollo photo that certainly
sucks big-time in more freaking ways than even I can count;

In addition to just about everything else that I've had to offer that's
not been exactly very appreciative of all those secondary radiation and
thermal-proof EVA moonsuit obtained photos that were so entirely
uneffected by all of the raw solar near-UV and UV/a spectrum energy,
and I certainly don't mean to be the continual all-knowing spoil-sport
but, please do offer to explain as to exactly how the hell our apollo
command module became miles and miles across in size.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/ch2.htm
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/hrp36b.jpg

Was this inflatable Apollo command module expansion caused from the
extreme vacuum of space, essentially causing the entire craft to
inflate/expand by a factor of several thousand to one?

Or, was their high quality mockup of the moon merely a few meters away?

I had no freaking idea that such spacecraft typically expanded by such
an enormous extent. Does that represent that our astronauts were
equally as inflated?

I guess that tells us exactly how darn little my dyslexic brain of
three remaining cells actually knows about anything. Perhaps the sun
was simply so much closer than we'd ever realized.

I'm wondering if perchance there's some math expert/wizard that can be
bothered as to accomplish whatever it takes in order to establish the
command module size as based upon cruising along at roughly 100 km off
the deck, of having the sun as being 1 AU in nearly the opposit
direction. In fact, I might just take a moment as to draw this one into
one of my AutoCad drawings in order to see what's what, then I'll
report back.

Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

hello dont you know that without and atmosphere you cannot determine the
altitude of the orbiter. the shadow on the left is the shadow of a
central mount peak. the orbiter is above the mountain. the sun is
back to the right.
No amount of processing will improve the resolution.
There is no correction because there is no atmosphere. What you see is
what you get.
dont you get tired of being the stupid who keeps posting the same old trash.
josephus
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 07 Mar 2005 05:03:26 PM
NO my fair borg friend. I never tire of the truth and nothing but the
truth. How about yourself; whom are you incest cloning today?
Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS topics:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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User: "DrPostman"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 07 Mar 2005 06:02:06 PM
On 7 Mar 2005 15:03:26 -0800, "Brad Guth" <ieisbradguth@yahoo.com> in
accordance with The Prophecy scribed:

NO my fair borg friend. I never tire of the truth and nothing but the
truth. How about yourself; whom are you incest cloning today?

Guth declares himself the Paragon of TRVTH!
All others bow down before his abject truthfulness.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Member,Board of Directors, afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® #15-51506-253.
AFA-B Official Pollster & Hammer of Thor winner - August 2004
You can email me at: DrPostman(at)gmail.com
"Skepticism's bad rap arises from the impression
that, however necessary the activity, it can only
be regarded as a negative removal of false claims.
Not so... Proper debunking is done in the interest
of an alternate model of explanation, not as a nihilistic
exercise. The alternate model is rationality itself, tied to moral decency--the most powerful joint instrument for good that our planet has ever known."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 11 Mar 2005 06:47:13 PM
Dear incest borg 'DrPostman',
Apparently it's not our NASA or even MAILGATE that sucks, as it's them
normal laws of physics that suck, and thereby all that's supposedly
hard-science can't but suck no matters what. Only those mainstream
conditional laws of physics need be applied whenever questioning
whatever's lord NASA certified, and otherwise everything becomes even
more skewed if it involves our resident warlord and the likes of those
extremely stealth WMD.
It looks as though I've become a little out of touch with other
realities, such as those of David Sereda. Sorry about that previous old
link that has become off-line. I just searched for 'david sereda' or
'david sereda video' and came up with the following;
http://www.alienresistance.org/aod04_david_sereda.htm
http://www.alienresistance.org/nasa_ufo_video.htm
http://groups.msn.com/NASAUFOS/photos1.msnw?Page=3D1
http://www.laufo.com/science-sereda.html
http://uplink.space.com/printthread.php?Cat=3D&Board=3Dseti&main=3D42424&ty=
pe=3Dthread
http://www.videocollection.com/product.html?category_id=3D789&product_id=3D=
1061
and it seems the list goes on and on. Thus perhaps if you're into the
likes of whatever's incoming and/or passing nearby Earth that's defying
the laws of gravity, that of kinetic energy as well as emitting a
strong energy signature within the UV spectrum, in that case there's
yet another realm of modern day physics that apparently didn't exist
before now. At least NASA doesn't have a freaking official clue as to
anything other than their usual disinformation-R-us status quo of
snookering humanity.
Since my PC is still being so thoughtfully infected by best of the best
NSA/MI6 spooks, as well as experiencing loads of online delays while
others tap into and/or block whatever I'm doing, in fact there's so
much of their MS accommodated back-door mainstream status quo incest
sperm as DNA poison on my hard-drive, so much so that if I exported my
PC contents into the internet I believe that mine alone could bring
down the entire global network within hours, and/or it'll somehow
infect the world with a worse form of mad-cow.
In spite of their ongoing and orchestrated efforts at sucking the very
life out of humanity, I do have file backups and if need be I'll go
into a local library or University in order to continue my personal
quest of overthrowing this snookered world with the truth and nothing
but the truth, that is unless you've got a better idea.
Actually, for getting myself somewhat back on topic, it's looking as
though a lunar solar farm that's using a combination of sterling
solar/thermal energy conversion, mylar-mirrors incorporating PV
conversion cells, and of course direct thermal heat-exchange storage
and subsequent redistribution for whatever secondary process heating
should contribute at the very least 750 watts/m2, and there's obviously
no limits as to the coverage of which solar farms can occupy, as
there's not a tree-hugger in sight.
Certainly the near vacuum of the unterraformed moon and/or of otherwise
being nicely insulated by way of R-1024/m worth of basalt
micro-balloons or just via that magic clumping moon-dirt that's
selectively retro-reflective yet somehow non-reactive according to the
NASA/Apollo wizards like Jay Utah, in spite of all that's seemingly
going against our moon, it is going to yield a fair amount of lunar
surface area for obtaining solar energy that can be effectively stored
into massive gyros (especially by way of those absolutely massive
counter-rotating gyros situated interactively at nearly zero-G at ME-L1
zone that's along the tether that's securing the CM/ISS and of it's
tether dipole element that's streaming off towards Earth) and/or
otherwise into well insulated thermal-wells is certainly going to save
the day if you're planning upon staying the lunar night.
Of directly focused raw solar energy, as onto a process of
melting/boiling basalt should obtain nearly a full kw/m2. Thereby each
km X km robotic solar farm should contribute a MW of basalt pot melting
energy that's going to produce the most absolutely pure fibers that are
of the least amount contaminated with the likes of nasty O2 and N2,
thus the final GPa results should become impressive to say the least. I
suppose the very same can be said of processing silica, of which raw
silica should also coexist somewhere upon the moon.
Onward to the other somewhat important topic of 'Life on Venus'
As certified as a village idiot that I supposedly am, it seems that I
do recall in high school being informed as to how hot and nasty Venus
was, thus never a word as to any possible form of life to being had.
However, it seems I don't recall being informed that the laws of
physics do not apply to the likes of Venus, nor that only conditional
laws of physics apply to our moon.
Apparently there's been new and improved laws of physics that actually
involves energy-in being equal to energy-out, and that of the laws of
thermal dynamics wherever there's a compression of a given gas always
involves a transition of energy being converted into heat (at least up
until the point of said gas becoming a sufficient solid), or vise
versa, and of subsequently removing that pressure from a given volume
of compressed gas accomplishes the exact opposit, and I suppose that's
still why refrigeration works as well as air conditioning via any form
of gas that's compressible, heat-exchangeable and thus available for
extracting heat so that the pesky physics rule of energy-in =3D
energy-out.
I believe such a compressible gas can be that of freon, common air,
hydrogen and lo and behold CO2 seems to have represented another
perfectly sound element (in fact better than most freons) for that of
energy storage and thereby on-demand heat transfer. Oddly, in high
school we were never informed of such things, so perhaps the laws of
thermaldynamics simply didn't exist way back then, as that would make
perfect sense as to why we weren't being informed of what's possible
whenever you have an unlimited resource of energy and absolute loads of
CO2.
Speaking about available energy;
Mars absolutely sucks, Earth is some what so-so, our moon is absolutely
clumping-pay-dirt overloaded with energy and, it seems the likes of
Venus is entirely off the freaking scale.
Or perhaps this too is yet another one of those new law of physics,
that of kinetics as to what any moving volume of gas and that of what
must transpire as that volume and mass equalizes it's way through a
radial power turbine, or through just about any other form of turbine,
piston of rotor having a physical differential of displacement. As lo
and behold, on Venus there's 65+kg/m3 that's everywhere you'd care to
look, and hot-damn if there's not 4+bar/km and otherwise 10=B0K/km just
off the deck, whereas a 10 km differential represents nearly 40 bar and
100=B0K (especially potent if we're starting off somewhat below the
average or somewhat sealevel elevation, or otherwise well into their
nifty season of nighttime where instead of 92 bar we've got better than
97 bar to start off with).
Thus the real honest to God question with regard to Venus hasn't
actually been about where said energy shall come from, but as to how
many mega, giga or tera watts would you like?
So, what I'd be interested to know is where can I locate the sorts of
minion talents and resources in order to expand research upon the
possibilities of how some other forms of life (including whatever
imported ETs) could have been managing quite nicely right under our
pathetically dumbfounded noses?
Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS topics:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
.
User: "++The Commentator++"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 11 Mar 2005 11:13:54 PM
Brad Guth wrote:


How do you manage to feed yourself? Have you ever inflicted a
serious wound on your person by trying to use a spoon?
.
User: "Vanilla Gorilla Monkey Boy"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 12 Mar 2005 12:14:21 PM
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:13:54 -0800, ++The Commentator++
<nospam@no.trolls> wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<42327A92.51D0BB3E@no.trolls>:

Brad Guth wrote:



How do you manage to feed yourself? Have you ever inflicted a
serious wound on your person by trying to use a spoon?

There *is* no spoon, Neo.
--
V.G.
"i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?" - AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.
.
User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Mar 2005 07:20:03 PM
Dear 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++',
This response is actually intended for the likes of honest to God folks
and other friends of humanity, as to stop wasting their talents and
whatever resources on the likes of Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++', as for this incest cloned borg has
long since disclosed upon hidden agendas and ulterior motives that'll
eat you alive.
No matter's what honest folks have started or merely contributed, the
likes of such absolute borgs will only string us along so far, that is
before they start in with their collectived approved and provided VX
gas that's intended to put a stop and/or at least derail whatever your
topic or intent of any given topic. Essentially 'Vanilla Gorilla
(Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' sucks whenever it gets down to
actually contributing anything that's even coming close to their
'nondisclosure' policy that's actually lethal with respect to their
sorry butts should something slip out.
As you should already know better than most, some folks (actually a
great many) have a truly sickening and perverted form of humor, as
they'll suggest and/or specify upon what's actually public knowledge as
from those that already know all there is to know, as though their
need-to-know methods of helping a given topic is by way of sharing so
damn little that's usually focused upon defending whatever's their
position, and if need be by way of 'evidence exclusions', rather than
offering a gram towards exployting upon the possiblies of whatever
others are having to offer, and this tactic especially within the
highly subjective realm of observationology.
Keeping in mind that folks like 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and
'++The Commentator++' seldom originate a topic but seemingly arrive
like ETs coming out of nowhere with their all-knowing vaporware, as
focused onto the given topic scene after the fact and then seldom if
ever contribute squat that doesn't fully comply with their NASA/Apollo
approved pagan bible of 'so what's the difference' and of their
supposed 'high standards and accountability' that subsequently needs
that nifty amendment of 'up yours', especially applied whevever there's
without a stitch of hard-science that you're bring thought of as having
WMD. Sorry folks, but that sucks ripe and big time, especially when
there are so many dead and otherwise dying bodies of friends and
perfectly innocent folks surrounding the one and only smoking gun as
well as their bloody feet.
Unlike what Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and others like 'bz' have suggested, I'm certainly not
the one that's trying to change the laws of physics to suit anything,
just attempting to apply them without their usual social/political
conditions that so happen to suit their mainstream status quo of
whatever our perpetrated cold-war(s) and of so much other collateral
damage and strife that so happens to include the ongoing carnage of the
innocent, as such having to offer their side of a given argument merrit
that's clearly against humanity is absolutely 'Hitler' sick, though
apparently of which the likes of 'bz' sees absolutely nothing
whatsoever improper nor the least bit worth a gram of remorse about our
past, present nor future that's become beyond sucking for those that
are either dead or about to die for no apparent good reason. As it's
just another 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++'
status quo of business as usual all the way into their intellectual
space-toilet of life as seen fit by those directly and indirectly
having remained as whatever resident administration supportive and
thereby more than willing to continue with the great ruse/sting of the
century without a stitch of hard-science, much less remorse.
That's placing the likes of 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and even 'bz' way past the realm of their just being
immorally sick to the soul, of which they apparently do not have a
collective soul to spare.
Now it seems the likes of Lord/wizard 'bz' has been (without ever once
asking) proclaiming without ever putting up or even so much as
suggesting squat of their own image interpretation as proof on their
side of the given argument, that others like myself don't have a
freaking clue as to interpreting a hard-science worth upon whatever an
8-bit and 12 looks/pixel radar image that was obtained at roughly 43=B0
as for accomplishing a damn near 3D look-see at what's most likely
artificial and/or even as to contemplating as to whatever's perfectly
natural but extremely interesting about Venus. This two-faced nutbag
discredits whatever and whomever suits a perverted criteria of
snookering thy humanity. Well damn, the only village idiot 'fool on the
hill' that's being snookered this time around isn't me, and I certainly
hope 'habshi', 'tj Frazir' and myself are such fools as to be falling
for any of his certified crapolla either.
As far as I can tell, the only actual flames coming out of this forum
that sucks are those being fueled along by the 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' and 'bz' intellectual collective
flatulence that'll knowingly accomplish while it's polluting whatever
it takes in order to disqualify every other honest soul upon Earth, and
if that's something unacceptable for myself to be sharing and stating
on behalf of humanity, then so be it. This would not be the first
bridge that I've burned and, it probably will not be my last,
especially if I can manage to take out a few more than my fair share of
incest cloned borgs in this bridge burning process.
-
This closing part is being contributed for the ongoing benefit of
others (news media and general topic newcomers), and not that it
matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God, as in spite of their
flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC if not myself, within my
spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my external 'gv-topics'
page, and I'm working on other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn
more that can be independently supported by sufficient hard-science,
I'll share that knowledge, which will likely include revisions and
retractions of what I've offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm
unfunded and on the usual 'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything
that might rock a mainstream boat, this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.
Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Other available topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
.
User: "Clave"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Mar 2005 07:31:25 PM
"Brad Guth" <ieisbradguth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111540803.574377.288710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dear 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++',
This response is actually intended for the likes of honest to God folks
and other friends of humanity, as to stop wasting their talents and
whatever resources on the likes of Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++', as for this incest cloned borg has
long since disclosed upon hidden agendas and ulterior motives that'll
eat you alive.

<...snip net-nanny screed...>
Dear "Brad Guth" --
How high do you think you can ***** up a rope?
Jim
.
User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 29 Mar 2005 01:23:03 PM
Dear 'Jim Clave',
All the way to the top of that rope.
DHS 'CODE RED' WARNINGS;
Dear 'Clave', GOOGLE V-Chip spooks of MI6/NSA, and otherwise to all
other incest cloned borgs of this all-knowing forum that sucks. The New
York Times and The Washington Post may have to run another one of those
'counterfeit news' infomercials of disinformation-R-us on behalf of
supporting the NASA/Apollo ruse of the century, as that's about all
that'll work since the laws of physics don't seem to be cooperating.
Sorry folks, I've had to fix a few pesky words. Although, it seems as
though our MI6/NSA and NASA/Apollo ruse is still (thanks to 'bz')
sucking itself right along, and it seems as though I have obtained yet
another entire mainstream all to myself, especially since all the rats
and spooks have jumped ship. All that I have to do is post something
about those Kodak moments failing to record the raw solar near-UV and
UV/a, or request something as to 'where's Venus' or 'where's Sirius' or
'where's the secondary/recoil photons' and lo and behold, all of the
incest borg competition vanishes, especially if there's something
contributed by 'tj Frazir' about all of that rather nasty moon-dust
that's accumulated rather deep and not clumping.
This effort is intended for all the snookered fools or otherwise newly
assimilated borgs like 'bz' that have to keep using those nifty
conditional laws of physics that suck like so much toilet-paper, this
time having been stipulating from their MI6/NSA sources as to the
notion that space travel within essentially Earth orbit and while being
24/7 illuminated is extremely cold, and even apparently colder yet with
three sweating astronauts crapping in their pants all the way to/from
the moon. Thus unlike ISS, apparently our NASA/Apollo freaks had to
utilize cabin heat all the way, and now that's supposedly another
reason why the surface of the moon was so survivable while within the
1=2E4 kw/m2 blazing raw sun.
As for the likes of their newest borg collective member 'bz' is the
latest assigned borg on the block that's been trying to side-track my
efforts while suggesting once again as founded entirely upon his or her
MI6/NSA sourced and thereby moderated information, or perhaps
disinformation-R-us, as to seismic instruments that managed to get
deployed and gave us a signal which otherwise could have been
pre-recorded at any local RadioShack and feed to the transponder(s)
drifting in the ME-L1 zone for far less than 0.1% the cost of actually
getting anything onto or rather into the moon. Although, I'll have to
admit that an impact tolerant probe similar to my 'Javelin Probe' or
those of the LUNAR-A mission that for more than a decade have never
been allowed to transpire is about all that could have survived, thus
conceivably the technology may have existed for accomplishing that much
without ever setting an extremely dusty hot-foot onto the moon (though
why bother when a ME-L1 transponder accommodated signal is offering
whatever fits the mold at not 0.1% the cost).
Even though this recent level of intellectual incest cloned borgism has
been pretending at having an 'open mind', when in fact there's not a
shred of remorse, much less independent hard-science on behalf of the
'we walked on the moon' analogy, only their entirely subjective science
as obtained from orbit which actually isn't half bad, just not the
least bit conclusive of squat as to anything surface obtained that was
performed by manner of any EVA which simply could not have transpired
unless the laws of physics works differently upon the moon than upon
Earth, such as for those unfiltered Kodak laws of physics and, not to
mention the near coal like dust and dark basalt environment that was
seriously cooking and otherwise badly reacting by creating all of the
nasty secondary/recoil photons as it should have from the raw solar
influx.
"bz; Data from remote sensors is consistent with data that I can go
into the laboratory and collect. Both are consistent with the 'laws of
physics'. So, I need a very strong reason to doubt them. Do you have
such a reason?
Now this collective member is like others knowingly trashing down upon
the likes of Kodak and everything that's photographic via 'evidence
exclusions' because there's absolutely nothing that'll fix that little
MI6/NSA screw-up, is having to imply that our MI6/NSA collective had to
have been upon the surface of the moon because, as for some reason in
this instance they weren't going to be quite smart enough to match
their disinformation-R-us data up with whatever would have been easily
compared by others, and/or suggesting there was no alternative method
of getting that seismic probe into the moon.
As for the actual surface of the moon being very much unlike any other
form of their controlled disinformation, this effort required the usage
of 'evidence exclusions' (common place within the likes of MI6/NSA
CIA/FBI, DoD and all other branches of government) whenever and
wherever that benefits and/or reinforces their desired ruse/sting
outcome, plus including whatever job and retirement benefit security.
Whereas all of the sudden we're supposed to believe in the absolute
height of our perpetrated cold-war(s) that the one and only government
agency that's actually sharing the truth and nothing but the truth was
NASA. I guess that means that I'm more than suggesting that these folks
all utilized the very same infected toilet-seat, yet some how that
virulent form of AIDS and Mad-Cow disease never spread from butt to
butt, of which I could appreciated if those toilet seats were being
utilized purely by their hybrid incest cloned borgs having biological
immunity to such.
"bz; So, you believe the NASA information about Saturns moons but not
the information about our moon? What makes you think Saturn has moons?
Have YOU been there? Do you have independent proof?
This is about A-typical of what sort of damage-control I've had to deal
with all along, whereas instead of obtaining a put-up or shut-up worth
of their proof-positive in support of the NASA/Apollo fiasco, all that
I get are more of their usual and predictable incest worth of
questioning that's specifically suggesting that I'm the only one that's
outside the mainstream box because I wont believe and accept unverified
science as hard-science, and worse being is that I don't accept their
social/political conditional physics with same lack of remorse as per
going after those WMD. All of the sudden the cold-war motives, means
and opportunity are having absolutely noting to do with apparently our
one and only honest government agency that still can't demonstrate so
much as a prototype fly-by-rocket lander.
BTW; if in fact there's a bit more of a heavy although somewhat thin
atmosphere upon the surface of the moon, and for certain there are moon
rocks that are darker than 12% upon average (possibly as offering as
little as 3% albedo) that are somewhat like that tip of an iceberg
that's indicating as to what's mostly insulated by the surround of
non-clumping (vacuum packed) moon dust and dirt, of the sorts of moon
basalt rocks that are in fact going to get hotter than 123=B0C.
Insulating anything having a primary influx of 1.4 kw plus other
reflected and radiated energy from as derived from the surrounding IR
reflective terrain and as efficiently radiated from other hot-rocks is
going to more than fry an egg on the spot, and eventually that entire
rock (especially if the majority of said rock is so well insulated
underground) is likely going to exceed something above the 123=B0C mark
unless there's a layer of reflective aluminum foil and/or a conduction
mode of thermal transfer that's getting involved.
"bz; Do you think the Russians would have kept their mouths shut if
they had evidence that the landings were fakes? The US did not have the
only radiotelescopes in the world. Signals from the lunar orbital
command center were even picked up by amateur radio operators.
What can I say; if we're perpetrating along with our half of the
cold-war, whereas so was the USSR. In fact, the USSR/Russia offers but
one official near-surface image of the moon before their lander rather
embarrassingly and summarily sank into that deep and near-black
moon-dust and, as such it was hardly landing upon the likes of any
clumping moon-dirt, as otherwise at 1/6th G their probe shouldn't have
sank out of sight.
BTW; there's a new topic in town; ISS needs to go to the MOON, with or
w/o crew
This new topic having something to do with Earth-science and of our
environment via our moon, thus nothing per say on the topic of photons
nor intended to fool anyone that's not already a certified fool for
believing in our perpetrated cold-war, the NASA/Apollo ruse or of those
WMD.
-
This closing rant is contributed for the ongoing benefit of others
(news media and general topic newcomers), and not that any of this
topic matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their MI6/NSA pagan NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God(s), as in
spite of their spermware flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC if
not myself, within my spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my
external 'gv-topics.htm' page, and I'm remaining intent upon working on
other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn more that can be
independently supported by the regular laws of physics, by sufficient
hard-science and subjectively honest interpretations of whatever I have
been given to work with, as best I'll share that knowledge, which will
likely include revisions and retractions upon any number of what I've
offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm unfunded and on the usual
'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything that might rock a
mainstream boat, and that my PC is being continually attacked with
NSA/MI6 spermware, it seems this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is ever going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.
Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Other available topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
.


User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Mar 2005 09:11:31 PM
Brad Guth wrote:


Basic township that's situated upon Venus...

Thank Brad... Thanks for registering at crank dot net.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22guth++%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Mar 2005 09:54:12 PM
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:


Basic township that's situated upon Venus...


Thank Brad... Thanks for registering at crank dot net.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22guth++%22+site%3Awww.crank.net

Quite appropriate for a guthball.
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"a photon can travel faster than light when it is not excited"
"Ions are attracted to IRON"
"The dense ions in the ionosphere are simulating a
much higher gravitational pull to earth."
-- Alexa Cameron demonstrates her 200+ alien-implanted IQ
"I really don't care too much for humans"
"Just think of all the fun watching them from above while they
dance their kooker-step on their burning planet ..."
-- Chuckweasel Bohnehead's delusional non-human self-image
.


User: "++The Commentator++"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 06 Apr 2005 03:04:14 AM
Brad Guth wrote:


Dear 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++',
This response is actually intended for the likes of honest to God folks
and other friends of humanity, as to stop wasting their talents and
whatever resources on the likes of Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++', as for this incest cloned borg has
long since disclosed upon hidden agendas and ulterior motives that'll
eat you alive.

No matter's what honest folks have started or merely contributed, the
likes of such absolute borgs will only string us along so far, that is
before they start in with their collectived approved and provided VX
gas that's intended to put a stop and/or at least derail whatever your
topic or intent of any given topic. Essentially 'Vanilla Gorilla
(Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' sucks whenever it gets down to
actually contributing anything that's even coming close to their
'nondisclosure' policy that's actually lethal with respect to their
sorry butts should something slip out.

As you should already know better than most, some folks (actually a
great many) have a truly sickening and perverted form of humor, as
they'll suggest and/or specify upon what's actually public knowledge as
from those that already know all there is to know, as though their
need-to-know methods of helping a given topic is by way of sharing so
damn little that's usually focused upon defending whatever's their
position, and if need be by way of 'evidence exclusions', rather than
offering a gram towards exployting upon the possiblies of whatever
others are having to offer, and this tactic especially within the
highly subjective realm of observationology.

Keeping in mind that folks like 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and
'++The Commentator++' seldom originate a topic but seemingly arrive
like ETs coming out of nowhere with their all-knowing vaporware, as
focused onto the given topic scene after the fact and then seldom if
ever contribute squat that doesn't fully comply with their NASA/Apollo
approved pagan bible of 'so what's the difference' and of their
supposed 'high standards and accountability' that subsequently needs
that nifty amendment of 'up yours', especially applied whevever there's
without a stitch of hard-science that you're bring thought of as having
WMD. Sorry folks, but that sucks ripe and big time, especially when
there are so many dead and otherwise dying bodies of friends and
perfectly innocent folks surrounding the one and only smoking gun as
well as their bloody feet.

Unlike what Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and others like 'bz' have suggested, I'm certainly not
the one that's trying to change the laws of physics to suit anything,
just attempting to apply them without their usual social/political
conditions that so happen to suit their mainstream status quo of
whatever our perpetrated cold-war(s) and of so much other collateral
damage and strife that so happens to include the ongoing carnage of the
innocent, as such having to offer their side of a given argument merrit
that's clearly against humanity is absolutely 'Hitler' sick, though
apparently of which the likes of 'bz' sees absolutely nothing
whatsoever improper nor the least bit worth a gram of remorse about our
past, present nor future that's become beyond sucking for those that
are either dead or about to die for no apparent good reason. As it's
just another 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++'
status quo of business as usual all the way into their intellectual
space-toilet of life as seen fit by those directly and indirectly
having remained as whatever resident administration supportive and
thereby more than willing to continue with the great ruse/sting of the
century without a stitch of hard-science, much less remorse.

That's placing the likes of 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and even 'bz' way past the realm of their just being
immorally sick to the soul, of which they apparently do not have a
collective soul to spare.

Now it seems the likes of Lord/wizard 'bz' has been (without ever once
asking) proclaiming without ever putting up or even so much as
suggesting squat of their own image interpretation as proof on their
side of the given argument, that others like myself don't have a
freaking clue as to interpreting a hard-science worth upon whatever an
8-bit and 12 looks/pixel radar image that was obtained at roughly 43°
as for accomplishing a damn near 3D look-see at what's most likely
artificial and/or even as to contemplating as to whatever's perfectly
natural but extremely interesting about Venus. This two-faced nutbag
discredits whatever and whomever suits a perverted criteria of
snookering thy humanity. Well damn, the only village idiot 'fool on the
hill' that's being snookered this time around isn't me, and I certainly
hope 'habshi', 'tj Frazir' and myself are such fools as to be falling
for any of his certified crapolla either.

As far as I can tell, the only actual flames coming out of this forum
that sucks are those being fueled along by the 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' and 'bz' intellectual collective
flatulence that'll knowingly accomplish while it's polluting whatever
it takes in order to disqualify every other honest soul upon Earth, and
if that's something unacceptable for myself to be sharing and stating
on behalf of humanity, then so be it. This would not be the first
bridge that I've burned and, it probably will not be my last,
especially if I can manage to take out a few more than my fair share of
incest cloned borgs in this bridge burning process.

-

This closing part is being contributed for the ongoing benefit of
others (news media and general topic newcomers), and not that it
matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God, as in spite of their
flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC if not myself, within my
spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my external 'gv-topics'
page, and I'm working on other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn
more that can be independently supported by sufficient hard-science,
I'll share that knowledge, which will likely include revisions and
retractions of what I've offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm
unfunded and on the usual 'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything
that might rock a mainstream boat, this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.


OUTSTANDING meltdown, k00k.
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 06 Apr 2005 08:36:59 AM
++The Commentator++ <nospam@no.trolls> wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:


Dear 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++',
This response is actually intended for the likes of honest to God folks
and other friends of humanity, as to stop wasting their talents and
whatever resources on the likes of Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++', as for this incest cloned borg has
long since disclosed upon hidden agendas and ulterior motives that'll
eat you alive.

No matter's what honest folks have started or merely contributed, the
likes of such absolute borgs will only string us along so far, that is
before they start in with their collectived approved and provided VX
gas that's intended to put a stop and/or at least derail whatever your
topic or intent of any given topic. Essentially 'Vanilla Gorilla
(Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' sucks whenever it gets down to
actually contributing anything that's even coming close to their
'nondisclosure' policy that's actually lethal with respect to their
sorry butts should something slip out.

As you should already know better than most, some folks (actually a
great many) have a truly sickening and perverted form of humor, as
they'll suggest and/or specify upon what's actually public knowledge as
from those that already know all there is to know, as though their
need-to-know methods of helping a given topic is by way of sharing so
damn little that's usually focused upon defending whatever's their
position, and if need be by way of 'evidence exclusions', rather than
offering a gram towards exployting upon the possiblies of whatever
others are having to offer, and this tactic especially within the
highly subjective realm of observationology.

Keeping in mind that folks like 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and
'++The Commentator++' seldom originate a topic but seemingly arrive
like ETs coming out of nowhere with their all-knowing vaporware, as
focused onto the given topic scene after the fact and then seldom if
ever contribute squat that doesn't fully comply with their NASA/Apollo
approved pagan bible of 'so what's the difference' and of their
supposed 'high standards and accountability' that subsequently needs
that nifty amendment of 'up yours', especially applied whevever there's
without a stitch of hard-science that you're bring thought of as having
WMD. Sorry folks, but that sucks ripe and big time, especially when
there are so many dead and otherwise dying bodies of friends and
perfectly innocent folks surrounding the one and only smoking gun as
well as their bloody feet.

Unlike what Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and others like 'bz' have suggested, I'm certainly not
the one that's trying to change the laws of physics to suit anything,
just attempting to apply them without their usual social/political
conditions that so happen to suit their mainstream status quo of
whatever our perpetrated cold-war(s) and of so much other collateral
damage and strife that so happens to include the ongoing carnage of the
innocent, as such having to offer their side of a given argument merrit
that's clearly against humanity is absolutely 'Hitler' sick, though
apparently of which the likes of 'bz' sees absolutely nothing
whatsoever improper nor the least bit worth a gram of remorse about our
past, present nor future that's become beyond sucking for those that
are either dead or about to die for no apparent good reason. As it's
just another 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++'
status quo of business as usual all the way into their intellectual
space-toilet of life as seen fit by those directly and indirectly
having remained as whatever resident administration supportive and
thereby more than willing to continue with the great ruse/sting of the
century without a stitch of hard-science, much less remorse.

That's placing the likes of 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and even 'bz' way past the realm of their just being
immorally sick to the soul, of which they apparently do not have a
collective soul to spare.

Now it seems the likes of Lord/wizard 'bz' has been (without ever once
asking) proclaiming without ever putting up or even so much as
suggesting squat of their own image interpretation as proof on their
side of the given argument, that others like myself don't have a
freaking clue as to interpreting a hard-science worth upon whatever an
8-bit and 12 looks/pixel radar image that was obtained at roughly 43°
as for accomplishing a damn near 3D look-see at what's most likely
artificial and/or even as to contemplating as to whatever's perfectly
natural but extremely interesting about Venus. This two-faced nutbag
discredits whatever and whomever suits a perverted criteria of
snookering thy humanity. Well damn, the only village idiot 'fool on the
hill' that's being snookered this time around isn't me, and I certainly
hope 'habshi', 'tj Frazir' and myself are such fools as to be falling
for any of his certified crapolla either.

As far as I can tell, the only actual flames coming out of this forum
that sucks are those being fueled along by the 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' and 'bz' intellectual collective
flatulence that'll knowingly accomplish while it's polluting whatever
it takes in order to disqualify every other honest soul upon Earth, and
if that's something unacceptable for myself to be sharing and stating
on behalf of humanity, then so be it. This would not be the first
bridge that I've burned and, it probably will not be my last,
especially if I can manage to take out a few more than my fair share of
incest cloned borgs in this bridge burning process.

-

This closing part is being contributed for the ongoing benefit of
others (news media and general topic newcomers), and not that it
matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God, as in spite of their
flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC if not myself, within my
spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my external 'gv-topics'
page, and I'm working on other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn
more that can be independently supported by sufficient hard-science,
I'll share that knowledge, which will likely include revisions and
retractions of what I've offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm
unfunded and on the usual 'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything
that might rock a mainstream boat, this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.



OUTSTANDING meltdown, k00k.

Congratulations, I believe this qualifies as a LITS.
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

<http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/alexa/socks.html>
<http://www.petitmorte.net/cujo/kazoo/kazoo.html>
.
User: "Aratzio"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 06 Apr 2005 11:00:05 AM
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:36:59 -0600, Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1>
transparently proposed:

++The Commentator++ <nospam@no.trolls> wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:


Dear 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++',
This response is actually intended for the likes of honest to God folks
and other friends of humanity, as to stop wasting their talents and
whatever resources on the likes of Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++', as for this incest cloned borg has
long since disclosed upon hidden agendas and ulterior motives that'll
eat you alive.

No matter's what honest folks have started or merely contributed, the
likes of such absolute borgs will only string us along so far, that is
before they start in with their collectived approved and provided VX
gas that's intended to put a stop and/or at least derail whatever your
topic or intent of any given topic. Essentially 'Vanilla Gorilla
(Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' sucks whenever it gets down to
actually contributing anything that's even coming close to their
'nondisclosure' policy that's actually lethal with respect to their
sorry butts should something slip out.

As you should already know better than most, some folks (actually a
great many) have a truly sickening and perverted form of humor, as
they'll suggest and/or specify upon what's actually public knowledge as
from those that already know all there is to know, as though their
need-to-know methods of helping a given topic is by way of sharing so
damn little that's usually focused upon defending whatever's their
position, and if need be by way of 'evidence exclusions', rather than
offering a gram towards exployting upon the possiblies of whatever
others are having to offer, and this tactic especially within the
highly subjective realm of observationology.

Keeping in mind that folks like 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and
'++The Commentator++' seldom originate a topic but seemingly arrive
like ETs coming out of nowhere with their all-knowing vaporware, as
focused onto the given topic scene after the fact and then seldom if
ever contribute squat that doesn't fully comply with their NASA/Apollo
approved pagan bible of 'so what's the difference' and of their
supposed 'high standards and accountability' that subsequently needs
that nifty amendment of 'up yours', especially applied whevever there's
without a stitch of hard-science that you're bring thought of as having
WMD. Sorry folks, but that sucks ripe and big time, especially when
there are so many dead and otherwise dying bodies of friends and
perfectly innocent folks surrounding the one and only smoking gun as
well as their bloody feet.

Unlike what Lord/wizard 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and others like 'bz' have suggested, I'm certainly not
the one that's trying to change the laws of physics to suit anything,
just attempting to apply them without their usual social/political
conditions that so happen to suit their mainstream status quo of
whatever our perpetrated cold-war(s) and of so much other collateral
damage and strife that so happens to include the ongoing carnage of the
innocent, as such having to offer their side of a given argument merrit
that's clearly against humanity is absolutely 'Hitler' sick, though
apparently of which the likes of 'bz' sees absolutely nothing
whatsoever improper nor the least bit worth a gram of remorse about our
past, present nor future that's become beyond sucking for those that
are either dead or about to die for no apparent good reason. As it's
just another 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The Commentator++'
status quo of business as usual all the way into their intellectual
space-toilet of life as seen fit by those directly and indirectly
having remained as whatever resident administration supportive and
thereby more than willing to continue with the great ruse/sting of the
century without a stitch of hard-science, much less remorse.

That's placing the likes of 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)' and '++The
Commentator++' and even 'bz' way past the realm of their just being
immorally sick to the soul, of which they apparently do not have a
collective soul to spare.

Now it seems the likes of Lord/wizard 'bz' has been (without ever once
asking) proclaiming without ever putting up or even so much as
suggesting squat of their own image interpretation as proof on their
side of the given argument, that others like myself don't have a
freaking clue as to interpreting a hard-science worth upon whatever an
8-bit and 12 looks/pixel radar image that was obtained at roughly 43°
as for accomplishing a damn near 3D look-see at what's most likely
artificial and/or even as to contemplating as to whatever's perfectly
natural but extremely interesting about Venus. This two-faced nutbag
discredits whatever and whomever suits a perverted criteria of
snookering thy humanity. Well damn, the only village idiot 'fool on the
hill' that's being snookered this time around isn't me, and I certainly
hope 'habshi', 'tj Frazir' and myself are such fools as to be falling
for any of his certified crapolla either.

As far as I can tell, the only actual flames coming out of this forum
that sucks are those being fueled along by the 'Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey
Boy)' and '++The Commentator++' and 'bz' intellectual collective
flatulence that'll knowingly accomplish while it's polluting whatever
it takes in order to disqualify every other honest soul upon Earth, and
if that's something unacceptable for myself to be sharing and stating
on behalf of humanity, then so be it. This would not be the first
bridge that I've burned and, it probably will not be my last,
especially if I can manage to take out a few more than my fair share of
incest cloned borgs in this bridge burning process.

-

This closing part is being contributed for the ongoing benefit of
others (news media and general topic newcomers), and not that it
matters to those without a stitch of remorse outside of whatever
appeases their NASA/Apollo cold-war or bust God, as in spite of their
flak having the intent as to kill-off my PC if not myself, within my
spare dyslexic time I've slightly polished on my external 'gv-topics'
page, and I'm working on other pages as soon to be improved. As I learn
more that can be independently supported by sufficient hard-science,
I'll share that knowledge, which will likely include revisions and
retractions of what I've offered thus far. Unfortunately, since I'm
unfunded and on the usual 'need-to-know' bases with regard to anything
that might rock a mainstream boat, this process is going to take many
thousands of my lose cannon shots before the truth and nothing but the
truth is going be told. And I bet you thought the likes of big and
fully loaded aircraft smashing into fully occupied tall buildings was
as bad as it gets; think again.



OUTSTANDING meltdown, k00k.


Congratulations, I believe this qualifies as a LITS.

This Lits is disapproved. Until the fine nym of Aratzio is properly
litsed it will never have the official seal of the Lits ***** of AUK.
--
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
.
User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Apr 2005 02:19:26 PM
Wow, is there another perpetrated cold-war bloody joke in there to
behold?
What part(s) of LLPOF is over your head and the empty heads of those
that suck?
This group of damage-control borgs are not in compliance with the
collective, with your 'Skull and Bones' cultism that based upon sucking
from the very get-go.
-
Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Other updated topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
.
User: "[[The Commentator]]"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 22 Apr 2005 04:02:18 PM
Brad Guth wrote:


Wow, is there another perpetrated cold-war bloody joke in there to
behold?

What part(s) of LLPOF is over your head and the empty heads of those
that suck?

This group of damage-control borgs are not in compliance with the
collective, with your 'Skull and Bones' cultism that based upon sucking
from the very get-go.
-

Basic township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
Basic LSE (Lunar Space Elevator):
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Other updated topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

Out of the closet yet, k00k? You seem to have a sucking and *****
fixation.
.
User: "Brad Guth"

Title: Re: Science/Physics Forums that SUCK 23 Apr 2005 01:31:40 PM
Dear incest cloned borg [[The Commentator]],
Now that my PC has recovered (again) and I'm briefly back into posting
what I honestly believe is worth saying, it seems that your GOOGLE
V-Chip spooks and of their spermware MI6/NSA providers are hard at work
blocking whatever forum throughput and otherwise attempting to take my
PC down again (usually they manage to kill off as much browser
functionality as possible, then go in for the PC kill by taking out my
mouse). At least the bps rate had just gone back into the nearest
space-toilet while there's ongoing packets of malware and spermware
arriving into my PC. Image that, I'm finally getting my fair share
dosage of their mutated DNA/RNA if I want it or not. So.' I'll have to
disconnect, possibly reboot, clean out their trash and reboot again
before getting this and other messages delivered.
In addition to any given contribution getting somewhat chopped up in
order for making it least readable (not that I don't somewhat Klingon
dyslexic encrypt anyway), it seems my other topics page -
guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm - and quite often of others are
still from time to time getting GOOGLE V-Chip spermed into not working,
so perhaps if you're half as smart as you claim, you might get there by
other means unless you're access is otherwise being thoughtfully
blocked by the same V-Chip and MI6/NSA spermware technology. If all
else fails, you can email me and, if I'm not responding to your email
it's only because of other spermware and malware keeping that from
happening, As otherwise you can even call me or use regular mail
because, unlike the vast majority of those making this and other forums
suck, I actually exist as a real person.
-
Big-***** township that's situated upon Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Many alternate topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
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