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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Darkwing Duck theducksmailATyahoo.com"
Date: 27 Jan 2005 05:18:25 PM
Object: Scientifically Feasible Over Unity?
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,1021090,00.html
How would this create more power output then input?
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User: "Franz Heymann"

Title: Re: Scientifically Feasible Over Unity? 28 Jan 2005 01:14:17 AM
"Darkwing Duck" <theducksmailATyahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,1021090,00.html

How would this create more power output then input?

It is not a over unity device. unless you want to call an ordinary
fire an over unity device as well.
It is a machine which is being developed to utilise the energy
released when two small nucleii fuse to produce a bigger one.
The mass of the resultant nucleus is less than that of the individual
nucleii, and this difference appears as available energy.
The article is wrong in suggesting that
"In this inferno, hydrogen ions smash together, fuse into a larger
ion-helium"
That process is not feasible. It is in fact most likely that they
will fuse Deuterium and Tritium nucleii
Franz
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User: "CWatters"

Title: Re: Scientifically Feasible Over Unity? 28 Jan 2005 02:58:17 AM
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"Darkwing Duck" <theducksmailATyahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,1021090,00.html

How would this create more power output then input?

It's not a true "over unity device" because it consumes fuel (deuterium,
extracted from water) in addition to the energy needed to start the reaction
going.
When they say "more power output then input" they aren't counting the energy
in the fuel - just that needed to start and keep the reaction going.
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Scientifically Feasible Over Unity? 27 Jan 2005 09:00:11 PM
In sci.physics, Darkwing Duck
<theducksmailATyahoo.com>
wrote
on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:18:25 -0500
<10vithu8e5ibr3d@news.supernews.com>:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,1021090,00.html

How would this create more power output then input?

One has to consider the entire reaction. The fuel,
in this case, is apparently deuterium. The results
are claimed to be radioactive but I for one am not
certain; the only results I can think of are He4 and
He3, though there might be flying neutrons and neutrinos
which hit the shielding, making it mildly radioactive.
It's a bit like asking how a modern car engine works,
without considering the burning of air and gasoline.
I don't know how much energy 1H2 + 1H2 => He4 generates;
I do know that p + p + p + p => alpha with about 25 MeV.
Quite a bit if we can do it. :-)


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User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: Scientifically Feasible Over Unity? 27 Jan 2005 11:11:44 PM
Nope.
One neutron from one nuetron is not an energy gain .
Their atms will be too far apart to maintain or start fusion.
Photons don't have the mass to free a neutron.
Put the popular si rag in the ***** can .
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