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User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj"
Date: 07 Jul 2003 12:26:36 PM
Object: SCIENTIST EXPOSES FLAWS IN NOBEL PRIZE SELECTION
US-based Indian scientist alleges flaws in Nobel prize selection
Press Trust of India
Monday, July 7, 2003
Mumbai, July 7 - An Indian scientist from Auburn
University in Alabama, USA, has alleged flaws in the
selection of winners of world famous Nobel prize for the
year 2000 and claimed that his work had been sidelined
while three others were selected for the prestigious
award.
Prof Mrinal Thakur, head Mechanical Engineering
Department of Auburn University, nominated for Nobel
prize for the third time by his university this year,
told reporters here on July 4 that his discovery of "non-
conjugated" conductive polymers having isolated double
bonds as far back as 1988 had proved Nobel foundation's
statements incorrect in the selection of Nobel awards for
the year 2000.
He has questioned the decision of Stockholm-based Nobel
Foundation of Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences to assume
that a polymer had to be conjugated to become
electrically conductive--the basis for Nobel prize in
chemistry in 2000 to three scientists.
Alleging flaws in the selection of the Nobel winners of
2000, Thakur said that in spite of having scientific
facts on record that "conjugation is not a pre-requisite
for a polymer to be conductive but must have at least one
double bond in the repeat," the Nobel Foundation has
ignored it.
He alleged that while selecting three scientists for
Nobel prize for chemistry in 2000, his work on "a class
of conducting polymers having non-conjugated backbones,"
published in "Macromolecules" in 1988 and his subsequent
experiments and commercial applications thereof in the
form of sensors of various types including "stress
sensors", sensor to detect toxic gases and other security
applications, were totally sidelined by Nobel Foundation.
In 2000, Professors Alan J Heager of University of
California, Alan G Macdiarmid of University of
Pennsylvania, USA and Hideki Shirakawa of University of
Tsukuba, Japan received Nobel prize in chemistry for "the
discovery and development of electrically conductive
polymers".
The Nobel Foundation in the citation paper of the three
winners of 2000 Nobel prize had mentioned that "a key
property of a conductive polymer is the presence of
conjugated double bonds along the backbone of the
polymer. In conjugation, the bonds between carbon atoms
are alternately single and double".
However, Thakur said his publications during 1988 to 2002
and his patented sensors had pointed out that
"conjugation is not a pre-requisite for a polymer to be
conductive and that a polymer must have at least one
double bond in the repeat to become conductive".
Thakur explained that interaction with a dopant (an
electron acceptor) causes transfer of an electron from
the double bond to the dopant creating a hole at the
double bond site and electrical conduction occurs via
intersite hopping of holes.
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User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: SCIENTIST EXPOSES FLAWS IN NOBEL PRIZE SELECTION 07 Jul 2003 01:20:01 PM
Uncle Al wrote:

Sour grapes. There is nothing democratic or god-given-rightist about
Nobel Prizes. Look at the fools who qualify for prizes in literature,
economics, and peace. Milton Friedman & Co. in Augusto Pinochet's
Chile - yeah, that was a Nobel Prize-winning performance.

Milton and the Chicago Boys got the prize for puting the Chilean economy
back together after Aliende and the Commies ruined it.
Bob Kolker


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User: "greywolf42"

Title: Re: SCIENTIST EXPOSES FLAWS IN NOBEL PRIZE SELECTION 08 Jul 2003 12:50:39 PM
Robert J. Kolker <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lRiOa.367$ye4.832@sccrnsc01...



Uncle Al wrote:

Sour grapes. There is nothing democratic or god-given-rightist about
Nobel Prizes. Look at the fools who qualify for prizes in literature,
economics, and peace. Milton Friedman & Co. in Augusto Pinochet's
Chile - yeah, that was a Nobel Prize-winning performance.


Milton and the Chicago Boys got the prize for puting the Chilean economy
back together after Aliende and the Commies ruined it.

LOL! You'll believe any press release, won't you? (By the way, the leader
of that democratically-elected government that Pinochet and CIA murdered was
"Allende".)
In 1973, the year the generals seized the government, Chile's unemployment
rate was 4.3 percent. In 1983, after 10 years of "free market
modernization," unemployment reached 22 percent. Real wages declined by 40
percent under military rule. In 1970, before Pinochet seized power, 20
percent of Chile's population lived in poverty. By the year "President"
Pinochet left office, this number had doubled to 40 percent. Quite a repair
job!
Here's a quote from one of Friedman's "Chicago Boys", Greg Palast:
"Pinochet did not destroy Chile's economy all alone. It took nine years of
hard work by the most brilliant minds in world academia, that gaggle of
Milton Friedman's trainees, the Chicago Boys. Under the spell of their
theories, the general abolished the minimum wage, outlawed trade union
barganing rights, privatized the pension system, abolished all taxes on
wealth and on business profits, slashed public employment, privatized 212
state industries and sixty-six banks and ran a fiscal surplus. ..."
"But what actually happened in Chile? Freed from the dead hand of
bureaucracy, taxes and union rules, the country took a giant leap forward
.... into bankruptcy. After ninen years of economics Chicago-style, Chile's
industry keeled over and died. In 1982 and 1983, gross domestic output
dropped 19 percent. That's a DEPRESSION. The free market experiment was
KAPUT, the test tubes shattered. Blood and glass littered the laboratory
floor."
(Palast does like to extend his similes.)
"Chile was a showcase of deregulation gone berserk. The Chicago Boys
persuaded the junta that removing restrictions on the nation's banks would
free them to attract foreign capital to fund industrial expansion. (...) On
this advice, Pinochet sold off the state banks -- at a 40 percent discount
from book value -- and they quickly fell into the hands of two conglomerate
empires controlled by speculators Javier Vial and Manuel Cruzat. From their
captive banks, Vial and Cruzat siphoned cash to buy up manufacturers -- then
leveraged these assets with loans from foreign investors panting to get
their piece of the state giveaways."
"The banks reserves filled with hollow securities from affiliated
enterprises."
"Pinochet let the good times roll for the speculators. He was persuaded
that governments should not hinder the "logic" of the market. By 1982, the
Chilean pyramid finance game was up. The Vial and Cruzat groups defaulted.
Industry shut down, private pensions were worthless, the currency swooned.
Riots and strikes by a population too hungry and desperate to fear bullets
forced Pinochet to reverse course. He booted his beloved Chicago
experimentalists."
"Reluctantly, the general restored the minimum wage and unions' collective
bargaining rights. Pinochet, who had previously decimated government ranks,
authorized a program to create 500,000 jobs. The equivalent in the United
States would be the government's putting another 20 million people on the
payroll. ... The junta even instituted what remains today as South America's
only law restricting the flow of foreign capital."
"... To save the nation's pension system, Pinochet nationalized banks and
industry on a scale unimagined by the socialist Allende. The general
exproprited at will, offering little or no compensation."
"While most of these businesses were eventually reprivatized, the state
retained ownership of one industry: copper."
"University of Montana metal expert Dr. Janet Finn notes, 'It's absurd to
descibe a nation as a miracle of free enterprise when the engine of the
economy remains in government hands.' (And not just any government hands.
A Pinochet law, still in force, gives the military 10 percent of state
copper revenues.) Copper has provided 30 to 70 percent of the nation's
export earnings. This is the hard currency that has built today's Chile,
the proceeds from the mines seized from Anaconda and Kennicott in 1973 --
Allende's posthumous gift to his nation."
"Agribusiness is the second locomotive of Chile's economic growth. This is
the legacy of the Allende years as well. According to Professor Arturo
Vasquez of Georgetown University, Allende's land reform, that is, the
breakup of feudal estates (which Pinochet could not fully reverse), created
a new class of productive tiller-owners, along with corporate and
cooperative operators, who now bring in a stream of export earnings to rival
copper. ..."
So, we see that myths -- like Friedman's claims about the "miracle of
Chile" -- do serve a useful purpose. And that "scientists" like Kolker will
belive anything their told from an authoritative source.
greywolf42
ubi dubium ibi libertas
.

User: "greywolf42"

Title: Re: SCIENTIST EXPOSES FLAWS IN NOBEL PRIZE SELECTION 08 Jul 2003 12:52:27 PM
Steve Harris <sbharris@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com> wrote in message
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"Robert J. Kolker" <bobkolker@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:lRiOa.367$ye4.832@sccrnsc01...



Uncle Al wrote:

Sour grapes. There is nothing democratic or

god-given-rightist about

Nobel Prizes. Look at the fools who qualify for prizes

in literature,

economics, and peace. Milton Friedman & Co. in Augusto

Pinochet's

Chile - yeah, that was a Nobel Prize-winning

performance.


Milton and the Chicago Boys got the prize for puting the

Chilean economy

back together after Aliende and the Commies ruined it.


And for the record, Chile is still doing better economically
than just about anywhere else in South America, and Friedman
and the Chicago school deserve major credit for it.

LOL! You'll believe any press release, won't you?
In 1973, the year the generals seized the government, Chile's unemployment
rate was 4.3 percent. In 1983, after 10 years of "free market
modernization," unemployment reached 22 percent. Real wages declined by 40
percent under military rule. In 1970, before Pinochet seized power, 20
percent of Chile's population lived in poverty. By the year "President"
Pinochet left office, this number had doubled to 40 percent. Quite a repair
job!
Here's a quote from one of Friedman's "Chicago Boys", Greg Palast:
"Pinochet did not destroy Chile's economy all alone. It took nine years of
hard work by the most brilliant minds in world academia, that gaggle of
Milton Friedman's trainees, the Chicago Boys. Under the spell of their
theories, the general abolished the minimum wage, outlawed trade union
barganing rights, privatized the pension system, abolished all taxes on
wealth and on business profits, slashed public employment, privatized 212
state industries and sixty-six banks and ran a fiscal surplus. ..."
"But what actually happened in Chile? Freed from the dead hand of
bureaucracy, taxes and union rules, the country took a giant leap forward
.... into bankruptcy. After nine years of economics Chicago-style, Chile's
industry keeled over and died. In 1982 and 1983, gross domestic output
dropped 19 percent. That's a DEPRESSION. The free market experiment was
KAPUT, the test tubes shattered. Blood and glass littered the laboratory
floor."
(Palast does like to extend his similes.)
"Chile was a showcase of deregulation gone berserk. The Chicago Boys
persuaded the junta that removing restrictions on the nation's banks would
free them to attract foreign capital to fund industrial expansion. (...) On
this advice, Pinochet sold off the state banks -- at a 40 percent discount
from book value -- and they quickly fell into the hands of two conglomerate
empires controlled by speculators Javier Vial and Manuel Cruzat. From their
captive banks, Vial and Cruzat siphoned cash to buy up manufacturers -- then
leveraged these assets with loans from foreign investors panting to get
their piece of the state giveaways."
"The banks reserves filled with hollow securities from affiliated
enterprises."
"Pinochet let the good times roll for the speculators. He was persuaded
that governments should not hinder the "logic" of the market. By 1982, the
Chilean pyramid finance game was up. The Vial and Cruzat groups defaulted.
Industry shut down, private pensions were worthless, the currency swooned.
Riots and strikes by a population too hungry and desperate to fear bullets
forced Pinochet to reverse course. He booted his beloved Chicago
experimentalists."
"Reluctantly, the general restored the minimum wage and unions' collective
bargaining rights. Pinochet, who had previously decimated government ranks,
authorized a program to create 500,000 jobs. The equivalent in the United
States would be the government's putting another 20 million people on the
payroll. ... The junta even instituted what remains today as South America's
only law restricting the flow of foreign capital."
"... To save the nation's pension system, Pinochet nationalized banks and
industry on a scale unimagined by the socialist Allende. The general
exproprited at will, offering little or no compensation."
"While most of these businesses were eventually reprivatized, the state
retained ownership of one industry: copper."
"University of Montana metal expert Dr. Janet Finn notes, 'It's absurd to
descibe a nation as a miracle of free enterprise when the engine of the
economy remains in government hands.' (And not just any government hands.
A Pinochet law, still in force, gives the military 10 percent of state
copper revenues.) Copper has provided 30 to 70 percent of the nation's
export earnings. This is the hard currency that has built today's Chile,
the proceeds from the mines seized from Anaconda and Kennicott in 1973 --
Allende's posthumous gift to his nation."
"Agribusiness is the second locomotive of Chile's economic growth. This is
the legacy of the Allende years as well. According to Professor Arturo
Vasquez of Georgetown University, Allende's land reform, that is, the
breakup of feudal estates (which Pinochet could not fully reverse), created
a new class of productive tiller-owners, along with corporate and
cooperative operators, who now bring in a stream of export earnings to rival
copper. ..."
So, we see that myths -- like Friedman's claims about the "miracle of
Chile" -- do serve a useful purpose. And that "scientists" like Kolker and
Harris will belive anything their told from an authoritative source.
greywolf42
ubi dubium ibi libertas
.



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