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Secrets of the Aether library rental now available |
Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists. But for many people the $64.95 price tag has been
too much of a leap of faith to read a new theory for the foundations of
physics.
We are now offering a library rental eBook for $4.95. This library rental
includes the text, equations, and graphics of Secrets of the Aether so you
can read the book before deciding to purchase the printed version. The
library rental eBook works like any other library rental. Thirty days after
activation, the file will lock.
Secrets of the Aether is a new foundation for physics. It presents the
Aether Physics Model, which yields a mathematical Unified Force Theory,
explains dark matter, and even provides a means for quantifying
consciousness. For more information about the book and to order the library
rental copy, visit www.16pi2.com.
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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05 Mar 2005 01:35:59 PM |
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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Are you the same David Thomson who habitually wrote juvenile crap to
this ng
in the past?
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Franz
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produce outstanding work"
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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04 Mar 2005 11:49:06 AM |
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists.
So you make people give you their names and proof of identification when
they buy your book?
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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04 Mar 2005 01:41:24 PM |
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"Morituri-|-Max" <newage@sendarico.net> wrote in message
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists.
So you make people give you their names and proof of identification when
they buy your book?
Typical. You complain about not having the book cheaply available, now you
complain because of the nature of a secure transaction. I don't ask for any
of your information. It's PayPal and Virtual Vault who require the
information. If you are that worried about being seen by me, wait a couple
more weeks and then you can read up to 20% of the book for free on Google
Print, or you can register your pet cat for a PayPal account.
Dave
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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05 Mar 2005 12:18:38 AM |
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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"Morituri-|-Max" <newage@sendarico.net> wrote in message
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists.
So you make people give you their names and proof of identification when
they buy your book?
Typical. You complain about not having the book cheaply available, now
you complain because of the nature of a secure transaction. I don't ask
for any of your information. It's PayPal and Virtual Vault who require
the information. If you are that worried about being seen by me, wait a
couple more weeks and then you can read up to 20% of the book for free on
Google Print, or you can register your pet cat for a PayPal account.
Okay, let's step back here and ask, what the heck are you talking about?
At no point in my original post, or any post ever, have I ever said I wanted
to buy any book you put out at ANY price.
Also, you seem to be seriously mistaken about my ever having said anything
about my use of secure transactions with anyone, much less with you.
What happened is you claimed prominent physicists and theorists are buying
your book, which of course leads us to the question of how you know who is
buying your book unless they supply you with their names and proof of ID...
Are we clear now?
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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05 Mar 2005 08:59:39 PM |
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"Morituri-|-Max" <newage@sendarico.net> wrote in message
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What happened is you claimed prominent physicists and theorists are buying
your book, which of course leads us to the question of how you know who is
buying your book unless they supply you with their names and proof of
ID...
Are we clear now?
You're paranoid. Maybe they are introducing themselves and giving me
positive feedback? Did that ever occur to you? I have received positive
feedback from many of the books buyers. Several of the buyers have PhDs in
physics. Pretty amazing, isn't it? So far, not one buyer has responded
with a negative comment. We've sold over 70 copies so far and in addition I
have given away about 40 copies. Recently, one of these prominent
scientists bought two copies at one time.
Did you really think I cared about your mindless ranting all these months,
or that I didn't really have bona fide scientists interested in my work? I
just laugh at you guys every time you post your ignorance.
Dave
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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05 Mar 2005 11:31:31 PM |
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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"Morituri-|-Max" <newage@sendarico.net> wrote in message
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What happened is you claimed prominent physicists and theorists are
buying your book, which of course leads us to the question of how you
know who is buying your book unless they supply you with their names and
proof of ID...
Are we clear now?
You're paranoid. Maybe they are introducing themselves and giving me
positive feedback? Did that ever occur to you? I have received positive
feedback from many of the books buyers. Several of the buyers have PhDs
in physics. Pretty amazing, isn't it? So far, not one buyer has
responded with a negative comment. We've sold over 70 copies so far and
in addition I have given away about 40 copies. Recently, one of these
prominent scientists bought two copies at one time.
Did you really think I cared about your mindless ranting all these months,
or that I didn't really have bona fide scientists interested in my work?
I just laugh at you guys every time you post your ignorance.
Strange that you have to even sell books knowing what you know.. you should
actually be a multibillionaire right now, having fusion power plants built
all over the world.
Yet, nothing in the news about the new fusion plants being built.
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| User: "Einstein Aether" |
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04 Mar 2005 03:10:09 PM |
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Mr. Thomson,
There are some inconsistencies or illogic in your theory. I'll mention
two:
1. Scattering experiments show consistently that there are 3 quarks in
the protons. If quarks are debris as you implied, how can scattering
experiments always show 3 debris consistently??
2. You said the Aether is gravitationally attracted to the earth or
something like that. If different planets have their own Aether
and other parts of the solar system and universe have their own
unique frame of reference. How can light travel straight after
passing thru all the system of Aether??
Hope you can answer the above as its the most obvious. Answer
convincingly and people will listen.
If I were you. I'd modify the model to make it accomodate the quarks,
etc. I'm also looking for an Aether model, one that can make much
scientific sense and compatible with all data.
Einstein Aether
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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04 Mar 2005 06:01:44 PM |
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"Einstein Aether" <einsteinaether@go.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Thomson,
1. Scattering experiments show consistently that there are 3 quarks in
the protons. If quarks are debris as you implied, how can scattering
experiments always show 3 debris consistently??
Protons are quantum. Every proton is exactly like every other proton. Why
would it be unusual for protons to break in the same way each time?
2. You said the Aether is gravitationally attracted to the earth or
something like that.
I never said anything of the sort.
Dave
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| User: "Einstein Aether" |
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04 Mar 2005 09:33:54 PM |
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David Thomson wrote:
"Einstein Aether" <einsteinaether@go.com> wrote in message
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Mr. Thomson,
1. Scattering experiments show consistently that there are 3 quarks
in
the protons. If quarks are debris as you implied, how can
scattering
experiments always show 3 debris consistently??
Protons are quantum. Every proton is exactly like every other
proton. Why
would it be unusual for protons to break in the same way each time?
If proton is a basic unit and the quarks just debris.
How come there are not 4 debris or more but 3? Also how
come the strong force or pions if these are also debris
can interact with the nucleus strongly in experiments?
How can debris cause all the behavior? Can you
elaborate. I like your concept though. It's the
same as lift not being an intrinsic property of
airplane but caused by interaction with the wind.
Similarly, you are saying the strong force is not
intrinsic properties of protons holding them
together but produced by interaction with the
Aether (the moving onta inside the aether units)
producing effect like lift from wind in the airplane
(the attraction or strong force being like lift). Is
this a good analogy to what you are implying?
Anyway. Can't you produce a model where quarks are
part of it all?? If quarks are for real. Your whole
model just collapses.
2. You said the Aether is gravitationally attracted to the earth or
something like that.
I never said anything of the sort.
I read somewhere that you explained the reason MMX
produced the null result is the Aether is kinda stuck
to earth. What made it stuck to earth?? How large is
the diameter of this earth bound aether? How would
light be straight after passing thru many such systems
of aether in space?
Einstein Aether
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| User: "David Thomson" |
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05 Mar 2005 08:49:39 PM |
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"Einstein Aether" <einsteinaether@go.com> wrote in message
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If proton is a basic unit and the quarks just debris.
How come there are not 4 debris or more but 3?
I would look at the question as, "How does the debris of three relate to the
physics?" I just don't happen to have access to good quality data to answer
that question.
Also how
come the strong force or pions if these are also debris
can interact with the nucleus strongly in experiments?
There are no pions. Pi mesons are hypothetical particles. In the Aether
Physics Model the strong force has the same origin as the gravitational
force and electrostatic force. Just as the gravitational force acts on
mass, the electrostatic force acts on electrostatic charge, so does the
strong force act on the strong charge. I do show that all three forces are
unified and originate from the Gforce. The Gforce acts upon mass,
electrostatic charge, and strong charge within the Aether. I can quantify
this, but I can't tell you why it does. Nor can I tell you where the Gforce
originates.
How can debris cause all the behavior?
You must have the strong force of the gluons mixed up with the strong force
of the pions. Gluons and pions in the Standard Model are two distinctly
different "particles." But both the gluon and pion share similar
characteristics. For example, neither has ever been detected, they are both
imaginary constructs made in an attempt to explain something that was
previously unexplained.
Can you
elaborate. I like your concept though. It's the
same as lift not being an intrinsic property of
airplane but caused by interaction with the wind.
Exactly.
Similarly, you are saying the strong force is not
intrinsic properties of protons holding them
together but produced by interaction with the
Aether (the moving onta inside the aether units)
Exactly.
producing effect like lift from wind in the airplane
(the attraction or strong force being like lift). Is
this a good analogy to what you are implying?
Yes.
Anyway. Can't you produce a model where quarks are
part of it all?? If quarks are for real. Your whole
model just collapses.
My model does not disprove quarks, nor would it attempt to. Quarks will
likely become a part of the Aether Physics Model at some later time. They
will remain "debris" and will show that when the Aether unit is destroyed it
spills its angular momentum back into dark matter. The data from quarks
will tell us a lot about how the Aether unit is constructed. It might even
tell us something about dark matter. I just don't have the data to develop
this hypothesis at this time.
2. You said the Aether is gravitationally attracted to the earth or
something like that.
I never said anything of the sort.
I read somewhere that you explained the reason MMX
produced the null result is the Aether is kinda stuck
to earth. What made it stuck to earth??
Each subatomic particle resides in an Aether unit. If the subatomic
particle is not moving, neither is the Aether unit. And if the Aether unit
is not moving, neither are the adjacent Aether units, even if they are
empty. Similarly, if a solid is moving through a gas, then the Aether units
of the solid are moving past the Aether units of the gas. The empty Aether
units are pushed around in an electromechanical way. The MMX took place
inside a basement, the Morley-Miller experiment took place within the
Earth's atmosphere on Mt. Wilson. In both places the Aether was moving
relative to the experiment. These experiments were looking for an Aether
wind moving relative to the speed of the Earth, which is tens of thousands
of miles per hour.
The MMX and Miller-Morley experiments did show small Aether drifts, but they
were much smaller than what was expected for the speed of the Earth through
space. Perhaps the results reflected the air disturbance as a result of
turning of the table? I don't know, but knowing that subatomic particles
exist within an Aether unit I would not expect much of an Aether wind to be
blowing through the Earth. The Aether of the Earth might be slightly
porous, but only slightly.
How large is
the diameter of this earth bound aether?
Wherever there is a subatomic particle, there is Aether.
How would
light be straight after passing thru many such systems
of aether in space?
Light is always straight at all times. It is the Aether that gets bent out
of shape. Light must always go in a straight line due to inertia. When we
look at the "gravitational lensing" effect of distant galaxies, the light is
going straight. It is the distortion of the Aether that makes it appear
lensed.
Dave
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| User: "Franz Heymann" |
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07 Mar 2005 01:47:12 AM |
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"David Thomson" <news5@volantis.org> wrote in message
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[snip]
There are no pions. Pi mesons are hypothetical particles.
Balls.
Their masses and life times have been measured accurately.
Their intrinsic angular momenta, charges, isospins and parities are
known from expermental observations
I have been involved personally in the design, construction and use of
pi+ and pi- beams in a range of energies between 2 GeV and 200 GeV
If you convey nonsense so high up in that lengthy screed, the rest
will not be worth reading, so I snip it
[snip]
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Franz
"A first-rate laboratory is one in which mediocre scientists can
produce outstanding work"
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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04 Mar 2005 04:00:59 PM |
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In article <1109970609.683390.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Einstein Aether <einsteinaether@go.com> wrote:
Mr. Thomson,
There are some inconsistencies or illogic in your theory. I'll mention
two:
1. Scattering experiments show consistently that there are 3 quarks in
the protons. If quarks are debris as you implied, how can scattering
experiments always show 3 debris consistently??
Debris? That sounds like a dismissal of uninteresting garbage, rather
than a declaration of an intense interest in determing where that debris
comes from and the rules governing its creation and behavior. How can
there be such a thing as "debris" in particle physics?
--
"When the fool walks through the street, in his lack of understanding he
calls everything foolish." -- Ecclesiastes 10:3, New American Bible
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| User: "John Sefton" |
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04 Mar 2005 05:52:48 PM |
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Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
In article <1109970609.683390.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Einstein Aether <einsteinaether@go.com> wrote:
Mr. Thomson,
There are some inconsistencies or illogic in your theory. I'll mention
two:
1. Scattering experiments show consistently that there are 3 quarks in
the protons. If quarks are debris as you implied, how can scattering
experiments always show 3 debris consistently??
Debris? That sounds like a dismissal of uninteresting garbage, rather
than a declaration of an intense interest in determing where that debris
comes from and the rules governing its creation and behavior. How can
there be such a thing as "debris" in particle physics?
How about: if the particle is extremely short-lived
and then is given off as e-m, and/or equally or shorter-
lived particles, it/they are debris.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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04 Mar 2005 11:44:17 AM |
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David Thomson wrote:
Our new book, Secrets of the Aether,
[snip]
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
http://fsweb.berry.edu/academic/mans/clane/
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/17/3/7
No Lorentz violation
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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04 Mar 2005 11:33:14 AM |
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David Thomson wrote:
Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists. But for many people the $64.95 price tag has been
too much of a leap of faith to read a new theory for the foundations of
physics.
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
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| User: "Dirk Van de moortel" |
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04 Mar 2005 11:37:03 AM |
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"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:uZ0Wd.90853$tl3.80078@attbi_s02...
David Thomson wrote:
Our new book, Secrets of the Aether, has been selling well to prominent
physicists and theorists. But for many people the $64.95 price tag has been
too much of a leap of faith to read a new theory for the foundations of
physics.
Physics Today 57(7) 40 (2004)
http://physicstoday.org/vol-57/iss-7/p40.shtml
No aether
No password either :-(
Dirk Vdm
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| User: "tadchem" |
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04 Mar 2005 10:18:13 AM |
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David Thomson wrote:
We are now offering a library rental eBook for $4.95.
Your arrogance apparently blinds you to the glaring conceit you are
displaying.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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