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"and/or www.mantra.com/jai Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
In article <1122250202.610745.189140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"Arindam Banerjee" <> posted:
[...]
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
In article <qsCue.52818$oK.14634@okepread02>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
does this perpetual motion engine have an "off" button?
It needs to have an "on" button
first - and it doesn't!
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
"Arindam Banerjee" < > wrote in message
news:1119508395.298844.143360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I was suggesting new theories in physics that could lead to wonderful
things in the future. You are welcome to think and do whatever you
like. As for when this engine will materialise, looks like, long after
I'll be dead. At this stage, I am only putting up new ideas for future
work. If I am lucky, I will get the means to work on my ideas, but
given the state of the world as shown by the quality of your mind, I
won't be so lucky. Thanks for your interest, anyway. Now, get lost.
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee (Was: Re: Replying to yet another old post)
In article <1119509477.582055.30320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> posted:
bryant_j_j@yahoo.com wrote:
well, i looked you up and this is what i found:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jun/04newton.htm
a 'perpetual motion engine' huh? so, when will you have this engine
build to save all the world's energy problem?
till you do, i don't think i will be keen on looking at your 'book'.
Just so you don't miss out on all the fun, here's an excerpt from
his website, illustrating his deep insights:
2) Go to the streets of India, and see a small boy running beside a
vertically moving wheel (often the rim of a bicycle wheel), and
accelerating it from rest by small taps with a stick. If you consider
just the energy involved in the continous taps (and not the boys
running) to the wheel, you should find that the final energy of the
wheel is more than that of the sum of the energy involved in every tap.
3) This is rather like Example 2 given above, that of the small boy
accelerating a bicycle wheel. Go to a carousel in a fun park. You give
a sharp jerk on one of the objects that go round and round. You start
the whole carousel moving, that way, if it is not too heavy. Running on
the sidewalk beside the carousel, you keep on pushing, in small jerks,
till the carousel moves at fair speed. Stopping the carousel, by just
standing on one spot, will not be so easy!
...*ahem*... (hoo-boy)
-Mark Martin
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
Forwarded message
[
[ Subject: some challenge indeed !
[
[ Having gone through this guy's website, I have to wonder
[ how on Earth this guy got into the famed IIT's.. I read a
[ few chapter's of his book, and the flaw in his logic is
[ so obvious that I am amazed how he had the gall to
[ display his foolishness in public.. Internal force
[ propelling indeed ! Mr. Arindam, certainly a child (or
[ myself too) can propel thyself when seated on a chair by
[ pushing forwards and backwards..but that has nothing to
[ do with "Internal forces" or breakdown of Newton's laws..
[ it is simply a transfer of forces to the chair's wheel
[ which then acts on the floor and moves according to
[ Newton's laws.. ! indeed I can topple a car when seated
[ inside of it just by pushing against the walls too.. All
[ that is happening is a change in the position of the
[ center of gravity in this case .. and gravity does the
[ rest...
[
[ Every new and puzzling phenomena cannot lead to a
[ breakdown of old laws and formulation of new ones. Only
[ when it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to explain phenomena based
[ on well-established laws, does it become necessary to go
[ for new ones. This is not the case here - it is simply
[ bad science. Well at least, bad science is better than
[ voodoo science !!
[
[ Posted by Kumar - IIT M alumni on 11-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message from www.rediff.com
Forwarded message:
[
[ Look at the number of terms in quotes -
[
[ 'self charging'
[ 'no upper limit'
[ 'internal force'
[ 'perpetual motion machine' -
[ this claim is just to create some media
[ attention.
[ Also there are no links to any of his
[ papers. Rediff should not publish
[ anything they hear.
[
[ Posted by Vitthaljar on 06-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message
Forwarded messages
[
[ Perpetual Idiocy
[
[ ITEM: Perpetual Motion Machine
[
[ The Indian newspaper Hindustan Times reports that "Indian
[ researcher challenges Newton's law".
[
[ An Indian research technologist in Australia has
[ challenged Newton's First Law of Motion and called for a
[ revision of the classical theory in the light of modern
[ technology. An alumnus of the Indian Institute of
[ Technology, Kharagpur, Arindam Banerjee, working for
[ Telstra in Melbourne, has contended in his recently
[ published book 'To The Stars!' that contrary to the
[ hitherto accepted theory, an object can actually be moved
[ without application of any external force.
[ [...]
[ It is embarrassing when one's country has such a large
[ number of gullible idiots that it makes the pages of
[ newspapers and web portals. What triggers these episodes
[ of national stupidity?
[
[ It seems to me that these episodes of national stupidity
[ betray a profound lack of confidence and dignity that
[ forces the country to grab hold of any straw however
[ illusory. We have always been easy prey to snake-oil
[ salesmen, . . . now the semi-literate are prey to the
[ pseudo- scientific crooks and vaguely technological
[ "breakthroughs" that seem to sprout up now and then.
[
[ From introspection and personal experience, I admit that
[ when I am suffering from low self-esteem and a feeling of
[ failure, I wish I could win the California state lottery
[ or some huge jackpot. That is just a signal that I am not
[ sure that I am capable of making my life worthwhile by my
[ own effort and wish to be handed something for nothing.
[ Analogously, Indians desperately want a miracle to help
[ them avoid all the hard work that is really required to
[ make a decent living. (I am an Indian and therefore I can
[ criticize with impunity ;)
[ [...]
[ There ain't no child prodigies with the solution to the
[ nation's problem locked inside their heads - only idiot
[ savants impressing the merely idiots. And sometimes these
[ idiots happen to be faculty at the Institutes of Indian
[ Technology (sic). Do these IIT professors and other
[ scientists and technologists who jump on these comical
[ band-wagons have no shame?
[
[ I observe a minute of silence in mourning every time the
[ press reports the latest episode of mindless stupidity.
[ Hope we learn our lesson soon and get busy with some hard
[ work.
[
[ Posted by Atanu at July 17, 2003
[
[ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[
[ Dear Atanu,
[
[ You have again hit the nail on the correct spot. It is
[ indeed a disgrace that these thugs get to grace the pages
[ of national newspapers in India. India is a vast open
[ country and I fail to understand how they cannot find
[ something worth while to print everyday.
[ [...]
[ It is indeed a disgrace that serious journalism has
[ been reduced to such a circus. As an Indian living in
[ New York I am indeed appalled and ashamed to hear of
[ these things. They make us look like Kipling's Jungle
[ Book.
[
[ Cheers
[
[ Salah Mattoo
[
[ Posted by: Salah Mattoo at July 17, 2003 11:34 PM
[
[ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[
End of forwarded messages
Arindam Banerjee isn't aware of even basic concepts:
Forwarded message:
[
[ From: "Raghu K" <k.raghu@indiatimes.com>
[ Subject: Re: Arindam Banerjee's non-Newtonian Challenge
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.indian,sci.physics,sci.energy
[ Date: 2003-06-12
[
[
[ Dear Mr Arindam Banerjee,
[
[ I had sent you a mail regarding your idea of machines for unlimited
[ energy after I noticed a news about it in PTI. I didn't get a reply
[ from you. So I thought I will explain what I said here.
[
[ I am referring to this post.
[
[
[
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&th=84e99e1f39db0f
0d&rnum=1
[
[ In the first paragraph, you said "Energy is force multiplied by the
[ distance over which the force is applied". But this is the definition
[ of work done, not energy. If you say that both are one and the same,
[ it is quite contradictory to your theory. So I assume that you were
[ talking about work done. Therefore,
[
[ W = MaS
[
[ Now you substitutued S by 0.5aTT. But according to Newtonian
[ mechanics, S = ut + 0.5att. If you substitute that value, you will get
[
[ W = Ma(VT + 0.5aTT) = MVV + 0.5MVV = 1.5MVV
[
[ This value is the work done when moving the body from a reference
[ frame of velocity V to a reference frame of velocity 2V, relative to
[ the initial reference frame (the one having 0 velocity). If you use
[ this value in your calculation for the sum of work done in steps -
[
[ W = W1 + W2 = 0.5MVV + 1.5MVV = 2MVV
[
[ Now, kinetic energy is
[
[ KE = 0.5M(2V)^2 = 2MVV
[
[ Hence W = KE
[
[ Hope you understood the problem in your logic. You were calculating
[ the work done in two steps relative to two different reference frames,
[ and trying to add them up. They are not additive. You cannot measure
[ work or energy absolutely, they are relative quantities. And you
[ cannot assume that their magnitude will be the same in different
[ reference frames.
[
[ Raghu
[
End of forwarded message
Forwarded message:
[
[ From: Francis A. Miniter (miniter@attglobalZZ.net)
[ Subject: Re: Really Cold Fusion
[ Newsgroups: sci.physics, rec.arts.books, soc.culture.indian
[ Date: 2005-05-11 18:47:30 PST
[
[
[ wrote:
[
[ > Arindam Banerjee wrote:
[ >
[ >> Idiot, I am not suggesting the mere violation of the laws of
[ >> thermodynamics - I am debunking them by labelling them as a special
[ >> case, only applicable where internal force effects are negligible. I
[ >> am overturning them after my discovery of a new mathematical formula
[ >> for unlimited energy, that is to say, by understanding how very large
[ >> bodies like the sun and earth continually emit energy without going
[ >> into such nonsense as e=mcc.
[ >
[ >
[ > Imbibing a bit too much of the Starbucks are we?
[
[
[ With his new mathematical formula, stars will no longer have to die or
go
[ supernova. They can burn on and on forever and forever in a steady
state
[ heaven. Wow.
[
[ Francis A. Miniter
[
End of forwarded message
Forwarded message:
[
[ From: Richard Herring (junk@[127.0.0.1])
[ Subject: Re: Really Cold Fusion
[ Newsgroups: sci.physics
[ Date: 2005-05-13 02:02:37 PST
[
[
[ In message <1115941772.198114.64070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
[ Arindam Banerjee < > writes
[ > If the second law of thermodynamics is true,
[ > that is, things cooled with passing of time,
[
[ "That is" is not. You would need to find out what the second law really
[ says before you are in any position to disprove it.
[
[ --
[ Richard Herring
[
End of forwarded message
Arindam Banerjee is a fraud, obviously.
Arindam Banerjee "a blowhard fraud"
-From: Arjun Ray <aray@nmds.com.invalid>
-Newsgroups: rec.arts.books,soc.culture.bengali,soc.culture.indian
-Subject: Re: The Widowmaker, Re: Grisly
-Date: 9 Jan 2003 01:16:15 -0600
In <890e65ea.0301082253.1adae4f3@posting.google.com>,
(Arindam Banerjee) wrote:
|
| Arjun Ray <aray@nmds.com.invalid> wrote in message
| news:<o89p1vchi9u07t5ijv85oe288bd6476bv5@4ax.com>...
|> In <890e65ea.0301081419.551c1d01@posting.google.com>,
|> (Arindam Banerjee) wrote:
|>| Arjun Ray <aray@nmds.com.invalid> wrote in message
|>| news:<c27n1v0rq69brnjttt2b7550r9j9fshj5b@4ax.com>...
|>|> Care to give a sample from these first 100 odd?
|>|
|>| As a general rule I do not care to repost my work on Internet.
It's pretty clear that there is no such "work".
|>| If you are really interested, [...]
About the only thing interesting now is exactly how much
of a blowhard fraud you are.
[...]
End of forwarded message
HOW ARINDAM BANERJEE DECEIVED THE IIT
There's an attendance rule at the IITs, which
Arindam Banerjee obviously violated by his own
confession below. He likely also had his friends
act as a proxy for him during roll calls, sit for
him in exams and cheat the IIT in other ways:
". . . I tried to attend as few classes as I could;
mainly it was a matter of making friends with the really
great guys who let me photocopy their lecture notes, and
tell me which assessment was due when. Still, I had to
miss quite a few exams, when I had too much work
pressure, and that reflected upon my grades. Now I
wonder, how did I manage to do it all! My wife never
understood how I managed to pass and get my degree, for
she hardly ever saw me studying. But all's well that
ends well . . ."
- "Arindam Banerjee" < >
on June 6, 2005 about his IIT degree.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Exposed - Arindam Banerjee's tactics of abuse
Forwarded message
[ Subject: Re: Fw: Astrology is a Science
[ From: (Chris Krolczyk)
[ Newsgroups: alt.astrology . . .
[ Message-ID: <c743abb.0308251714.3afca...@posting.google.com>
[ NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.99.13.253
[ Date: 25 Aug 2003 18:14:14 -0700
adda1...@bigpond.com (Arindam Banerjee)
wrote in message
<news:890e65ea.0308251356.359a21e9@posting.google.com>...
(Chris Krolczyk) wrote in
message <news:c743abb.0308250629.4a293d89@posting.google.com>...
Just my point, you worthless lot's capable only of giving abuse
(and
that too, of a remarkably unoriginal quality) not reasoned
argument.
Oh, please. Pot, Kettle, Black. As in:
<news:890e65ea.0201311313.71a6cc2b@posting.google.com>
True. Use your head, read my book, and then try to sort it out. I
believe
that my main problem is that I am a brown Hindu, and that the
modern
scientific establishment is composed of Eurocentric racists. Which
is
why,
they are not even deigning to acknowledge the existence of my work.
followed up by
<news:890e65ea.0201311314.63a9c62@posting.google.com>
My, what mumbo-jumbo! Makes less sense than any witch-doctor in
darkest Africa.
or howzabout
<890e65ea.0204112309.120ff...@posting.google.com>
Why should I not? A Jew almost made it to Vice President, and they
run all the key positions in govt., finance, academic, media,
entertainment, publishing, etc., or allow their wannabes to do so.
If
you run foul of a Jew in USA, you are labelled a Nazi, and you have
no
chance at all for recognition or promotion, for then you become
morally responsible for the deaths of 6 million Jews in WW2. This,
by
the way, has just happened to me in an interchange in the newsgroup
rec.art.books. Some Jew named Zeleny called me a wog Nazi because
he
did not appreciate some of my views relating to US foreign
policies.
I was also described as a Nazi earlier when I said that Einstein
could
be wrong so far as his theory of relativity was concerned.
Nice change in tactics, Ari. First you accuse others of
racism in a discussion in which you brought up the subject
yourself. Then you post something quite racist yourself.
Then, in an unrelated post, you post something incredibly
antisemitic largely because you were feeling sorry for
yourself and were honked off because they didn't like
your "scientific theory" contradicting Einstein.
And somehow you see fit to lecture others on
"reasoned argument"? Don't make me laugh.
And as I said, you are a proven gutless scumbag,
In your eyes, Ari. That's not much of a
recommendation now, is it?
incapable of decency,
"Decency"? Heh.
-From <news:890e65ea.0204142212.57b736e9@posting.google.com>
Thanks for your interest in me, and I appreciate being the object
of so much attention, though I wish a lot of money came from it.
I am most kindly disposed towards Jews - despite their negative
attitude towards me, but that is understandable, for if my theories
are right, their beloved Einstein will be shown wrong - and so I have
suggested that they all leave the Middle East and get for themselves a
Zionist state in Florida, where they should be much loved and respected
by the USAns who worship their one true god.
Some "decency" there, huh?
Matt Giwer would be proud.
content to make snide attacks from the safety of other newsgroups.
Like you did to Michael Zeleny on soc.culture.india in the third
post I referenced, eh?
Physician, heal thyself.
Abuse is, thus, what you deserve.
Self-abuse is, as proven, what you post.
(Remainder of Ari's wankery deleted - why is it that kooks
always gravitate to Einstein's dead ***** like flies when
everything else they rant about runs dry?)
-Chris Krolczyk
End of forwarded message
Forwarded message
[
[ Subject: What is this Junk?
[
[ Is this what they teach at IIT-Kharagpur? Not only is our
[ crazy scientist violating the First Law of Motion, he is
[ also casting doubt on the validity of the Law of
[ Conservation of Energy.
[
[ Perpetual Motion Machines? Our esteemed IIT guy has been
[ reading HG Wells and all kinds of science fiction books.
[ No friction? Has he never heard of the concept of matter?
[ That matter is composed of molecules.......
[
[ I bet that none of this is, or can be experimentally
[ proven!
[
[ It is certainly commendable to follow the far reaches of
[ one's imagination, but to confuse imagination with
[ reality? One can of course argue that reality is
[ imagination and imagination is reality. But I would
[ rather not get into a philosophical discussion.
[
[ Posted by Ramani on 04-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message from: http://www.rediff.com
Forwarded message
[
[ Subject: Perpetuum mobile
[
[ Another attempt to foil Conservation-of-energy
[ principle ... this time by a Indian [Arindam Banerjee]
[ and that too somebody from IIT. We should better check
[ whether this guy really hails from IIT, bringing a bad
[ name for India and IIT both.
[
[ Rediff should also check authenticity of these pseudo
[ scientific results before publishing .. this is playing
[ into the hands of cheap publicity gimmickers. I would
[ advise rediff to refrain from these things ...
[
[ BTW, I would advise the readers to read the book
[ "Voodoo Science" by Robert Park. Plz check details on
[ Amazon.
[
[ Posted by niraj on 04-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message from: http://www.rediff.com
How 'Shame of IIT' Arindam Banerjee tries to deceive
Newton's Second Law states that the change
in velocity (acceleration) with which an object
moves is directly proportional to the magnitude
of the force applied to the object and inversely
proportional to the mass of the object.
But "Shame of IIT" Arindam Banerjee tries to deceive
others by posting the following:
Copy begins
[
[ From: Arindam Banerjee < >
[ Subject: Re: E=MCsquared is wrong
[ Newsgroups: alt.philosophy
[ Message-ID: <890e65ea.0301281239.5a87257e@posting.google.com>
[ Date: 28 Jan 2003
[
[ . . . Newton's second law of motion says
[ that the rate of change of momentum of a body
[ is quantitatively equal to the external force
[ applied upon it.
[
Copy ends
In other words, "Shame of IIT" Arindam Banerjee tries to
deceive others by stating that "quantitatively equal" is
the same as "inversely proportional".
But wait, there's another possibility, even the
likelihood, that Banerjee does not understand physics.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Bholu" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
22 Apr 2006 08:11:32 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
He may be a shame, but at least he went to IIT. So shame on him.
However that it better than some who just pretend they went to IIT so
the shame is on them not on IIT. Especically not on IIT-D. Some don't
even know when IITD was opened.
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| User: "Arindam Banerjee" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
22 Apr 2006 04:34:24 PM |
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Bholu wrote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
He may be a shame, but at least he went to IIT. So shame on him.
Only a monkey can think that I may be a shame. Because, only a monkey
can make such baseless assumptions.
If you - Bholu - think that this Jai is a shame, then you are right.
If you want to impute I am a shame, then if you are not a bandar, try
to prove why I may be a shame, as opposed to making such low
scoundrel-type allegations.
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| User: "Bholu" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
22 Apr 2006 05:13:50 PM |
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Arindam Banerjee wrote:
Only a monkey can think that I may be a shame. Because, only a monkey
can make such baseless assumptions.
If you - Bholu - think that this Jai is a shame, then you are right.
If you want to impute I am a shame, then if you are not a bandar, try
to prove why I may be a shame, as opposed to making such low
scoundrel-type allegations.
Your rather sappy and foolish poem about Aloshnukaya is proof of your
shameful behavior. No sane IIT-ian will ever write such drivel, much
less broadcast it over rooftops. That, of course, pales in comparison
with your internal force "theory".
However, your postings are superior to Jai ji's cut-and-paste jobs.
Thanks bud.
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| User: "Arindam Banerjee" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
22 Apr 2006 06:11:49 PM |
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Bholu wrote:
Arindam Banerjee wrote:
Only a monkey can think that I may be a shame. Because, only a monkey
can make such baseless assumptions.
If you - Bholu - think that this Jai is a shame, then you are right.
If you want to impute I am a shame, then if you are not a bandar, try
to prove why I may be a shame, as opposed to making such low
scoundrel-type allegations.
Your rather sappy and foolish poem about Aloshnukaya is proof of your
shameful behavior.
If you remember that after such a long time, Bholu, then surely it had
some merit. Even as a possibly sappy and foolish effort. Look at it
another way. There are always two views to real Art. You like it, or
hate it - if you are indifferent it is not real Art. If you hate
something, chances are that someone else not belonging to your social
or political leanings will like it! The quality of the Artist is
judged by how much he disturbs or excites, not about likings or
dislikings. Likings and dislikings are about commerce, about what
sells. Not Art, Bholu. So without meaning to, you have actually paid
me a compliment, Bholu. For you were evidently so disturbed by it,
that you remember it still though you dislike it.
On the other hand, I may be doing you too much favour by considering
you worthy to appreciate Art. More likely, you do not understand the
difference between Art and Propaganda and Commerce. I suspect they are
all exactly the same to you.
Still, I do not see how writing even a sappy and foolish poem - in your
mind, merely -constitutes shameful behaviour. Could it be that you do
not even know the meaning or relevance of shame any more? Then anyone
can be labelled as shameful for any silly reason whatsoever - thus
making the whole idea of shame irrelevant.
And isn't it shameful on your part to concentrate on just one poem that
you did not like, when in fact I have written literally dozens of
poems, songs, nararations, articles, essays - taken part in numerous
Usenet discussions? So why are you judging me to be shameful on the
basis of just one poem that you did not like? Is that all I have
written in Usenet? Aren't you being very selective and dismissive?
No sane IIT-ian will ever write such drivel, much
less broadcast it over rooftops. That, of course, pales in comparison
with your internal force "theory".
Well probably IITians and others should read far more carefully about
what I write. If they do not, abuse me instead, they could be held in
the greatest shame for their most vile and slanderous behaviour by
future generations. For, I could be completely right in everything I
wrote - and the whole world would then also share what I believe in.
The chances for this happening are by no means zero - I should think
they are very high, as the sun's and earth's heat is explained by my
new theories. Briefly, they hold that the Sun will always radiate heat
simply because it is so big. The Earth radiates less heat, as it is
smaller. And nuclear bombs don't work on e=mcc, they work on my newly
found mathematical formula for unlimited energy.
Any IITian with wit or wisdom is most welcome to discuss my new ideas
with me. I know very many IITians here in Melbourne and they have had
no problems with my new ideas. They are some of my best friends here,
and have encouraged me thoroughly. Why, one of them has invited me to
read one of my Bengali translations for the Bengali New Year functions.
So you see, you are merely being silly if you pretend that I am a
shame ot IITians or am getting neglected or ostracised by them in any
way. The usual response from them, and other well-wishers, is that I
should work more to prove my ideas with experiment, and that is fair
enough. Maybe I will one day demonstrate the effects I am looking for.
Or someone else will, and vindicate me.
However, your postings are superior to Jai ji's cut-and-paste jobs.
Well, they say that the most effective form of dismissal is mild
praise. So good effort here from you, Bholu. If you don't like
whatever I write, fine, that is your opinion; but when you
gratuitously indicate that I may be a shame, then really, Bholu babu,
on the basis you have just provided the shame is actually upon you for
instigating such an allegation.
Thanks bud.
No thanks to you, Bholu. You have done nothing for me. If I remember
correctly, you wanted me to send you a photo of Alyonushka, and I
thought you were some sort of pervert. Is that correct? Who knows, you
may yet have your wish one day.
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| User: "Bholu" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
23 Apr 2006 08:22:16 AM |
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Good luck my dear.
Arindam Banerjee wrote:
Bholu wrote:
Arindam Banerjee wrote:
Only a monkey can think that I may be a shame. Because, only a monkey
can make such baseless assumptions.
If you - Bholu - think that this Jai is a shame, then you are right.
If you want to impute I am a shame, then if you are not a bandar, try
to prove why I may be a shame, as opposed to making such low
scoundrel-type allegations.
Your rather sappy and foolish poem about Aloshnukaya is proof of your
shameful behavior.
If you remember that after such a long time, Bholu, then surely it had
some merit. Even as a possibly sappy and foolish effort. Look at it
another way. There are always two views to real Art. You like it, or
hate it - if you are indifferent it is not real Art. If you hate
something, chances are that someone else not belonging to your social
or political leanings will like it! The quality of the Artist is
judged by how much he disturbs or excites, not about likings or
dislikings. Likings and dislikings are about commerce, about what
sells. Not Art, Bholu. So without meaning to, you have actually paid
me a compliment, Bholu. For you were evidently so disturbed by it,
that you remember it still though you dislike it.
On the other hand, I may be doing you too much favour by considering
you worthy to appreciate Art. More likely, you do not understand the
difference between Art and Propaganda and Commerce. I suspect they are
all exactly the same to you.
Still, I do not see how writing even a sappy and foolish poem - in your
mind, merely -constitutes shameful behaviour. Could it be that you do
not even know the meaning or relevance of shame any more? Then anyone
can be labelled as shameful for any silly reason whatsoever - thus
making the whole idea of shame irrelevant.
And isn't it shameful on your part to concentrate on just one poem that
you did not like, when in fact I have written literally dozens of
poems, songs, nararations, articles, essays - taken part in numerous
Usenet discussions? So why are you judging me to be shameful on the
basis of just one poem that you did not like? Is that all I have
written in Usenet? Aren't you being very selective and dismissive?
No sane IIT-ian will ever write such drivel, much
less broadcast it over rooftops. That, of course, pales in comparison
with your internal force "theory".
Well probably IITians and others should read far more carefully about
what I write. If they do not, abuse me instead, they could be held in
the greatest shame for their most vile and slanderous behaviour by
future generations. For, I could be completely right in everything I
wrote - and the whole world would then also share what I believe in.
The chances for this happening are by no means zero - I should think
they are very high, as the sun's and earth's heat is explained by my
new theories. Briefly, they hold that the Sun will always radiate heat
simply because it is so big. The Earth radiates less heat, as it is
smaller. And nuclear bombs don't work on e=mcc, they work on my newly
found mathematical formula for unlimited energy.
Any IITian with wit or wisdom is most welcome to discuss my new ideas
with me. I know very many IITians here in Melbourne and they have had
no problems with my new ideas. They are some of my best friends here,
and have encouraged me thoroughly. Why, one of them has invited me to
read one of my Bengali translations for the Bengali New Year functions.
So you see, you are merely being silly if you pretend that I am a
shame ot IITians or am getting neglected or ostracised by them in any
way. The usual response from them, and other well-wishers, is that I
should work more to prove my ideas with experiment, and that is fair
enough. Maybe I will one day demonstrate the effects I am looking for.
Or someone else will, and vindicate me.
However, your postings are superior to Jai ji's cut-and-paste jobs.
Well, they say that the most effective form of dismissal is mild
praise. So good effort here from you, Bholu. If you don't like
whatever I write, fine, that is your opinion; but when you
gratuitously indicate that I may be a shame, then really, Bholu babu,
on the basis you have just provided the shame is actually upon you for
instigating such an allegation.
Thanks bud.
No thanks to you, Bholu. You have done nothing for me. If I remember
correctly, you wanted me to send you a photo of Alyonushka, and I
thought you were some sort of pervert. Is that correct? Who knows, you
may yet have your wish one day.
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| User: "Arindam Banerjee" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
23 Apr 2006 06:59:15 PM |
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Bholu wrote:
Good luck my dear.
Thank you Bholu-ji. I certainly need good luck.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
23 Apr 2006 11:12:32 AM |
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What is this new theory of yours? Is it available for public to view?
I am curious and would like to read. Thanks.
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| User: "Arindam Banerjee" |
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| Title: Re: 'Shame of IIT' and proven fraud Arindam Banerjee |
22 Apr 2006 05:40:16 PM |
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Well, I think I have some time to go through old stuff, so here I go
again! If anyone wants to follow up, please do so.
Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
In article <1122250202.610745.189140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> posted:
[...]
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
In article <qsCue.52818$oK.14634@okepread02>,
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
does this perpetual motion engine have an "off" button?
It needs to have an "on" button
first - and it doesn't!
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:1119508395.298844.143360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I was suggesting new theories in physics that could lead to wonderful
things in the future. You are welcome to think and do whatever you
like. As for when this engine will materialise, looks like, long after
I'll be dead. At this stage, I am only putting up new ideas for future
work. If I am lucky, I will get the means to work on my ideas, but
given the state of the world as shown by the quality of your mind, I
won't be so lucky. Thanks for your interest, anyway. Now, get lost.
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee (Was: Re: Replying to yet another old post)
In article <1119509477.582055.30320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> posted:
bryant_j_j@yahoo.com wrote:
well, i looked you up and this is what i found:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/jun/04newton.htm
a 'perpetual motion engine' huh? so, when will you have this engine
build to save all the world's energy problem?
till you do, i don't think i will be keen on looking at your 'book'.
Just so you don't miss out on all the fun, here's an excerpt from
his website, illustrating his deep insights:
2) Go to the streets of India, and see a small boy running beside a
vertically moving wheel (often the rim of a bicycle wheel), and
accelerating it from rest by small taps with a stick. If you consider
just the energy involved in the continous taps (and not the boys
running) to the wheel, you should find that the final energy of the
wheel is more than that of the sum of the energy involved in every tap.
3) This is rather like Example 2 given above, that of the small boy
accelerating a bicycle wheel. Go to a carousel in a fun park. You give
a sharp jerk on one of the objects that go round and round. You start
the whole carousel moving, that way, if it is not too heavy. Running on
the sidewalk beside the carousel, you keep on pushing, in small jerks,
till the carousel moves at fair speed. Stopping the carousel, by just
standing on one spot, will not be so easy!
...*ahem*... (hoo-boy)
-Mark Martin
This is pure bastardy. Some indicative examples that showed the
progession of my thought has been taken out of context, to muddy the
whole picture. This is thus a truly shameless exercise, and if I did
not reply to this earlier, that only shows that I thought that any
clever mind would see through its blatant evilmindedness.
'Shame of IIT' and fraud Arindam Banerjee
Forwarded message
[
[ Subject: some challenge indeed !
[
[ Having gone through this guy's website, I have to wonder
[ how on Earth this guy got into the famed IIT's.. I read a
[ few chapter's of his book, and the flaw in his logic is
[ so obvious that I am amazed how he had the gall to
[ display his foolishness in public.. Internal force
[ propelling indeed ! Mr. Arindam, certainly a child (or
[ myself too) can propel thyself when seated on a chair by
[ pushing forwards and backwards..but that has nothing to
[ do with "Internal forces" or breakdown of Newton's laws..
[ it is simply a transfer of forces to the chair's wheel
[ which then acts on the floor and moves according to
[ Newton's laws.. ! indeed I can topple a car when seated
[ inside of it just by pushing against the walls too.. All
[ that is happening is a change in the position of the
[ center of gravity in this case .. and gravity does the
[ rest...
Mr Kumar - or anyone else - you are doing the same thing as that Martin
character earlier. You do not understand, or you do not want to
understand, the main point of the theory. Meaning that, if there is
some effect found that could translate the internal energy of a body to
translational motion, then we break the laws of thermodynamics.
Internal energy can certainly do rotational motion, any motor does
that. So my point as made in the book was conjectural - and I hold
that if suitable effort is put in making reality of this, then great
gains could be made. However my conjecture if validated would upset
established physics - mostly thermodynamics, by making the law of
conservation of energy to be a special case.
I have since expanded on the theoretical aspects of my work, and now
have formed a totally new picture and explanation of the universe.
Like, the stars generate energy simply because they are very big!
It is just that one day I stumbled on an interesting mathematical
equation (nobody can deny the novelty, simplicity and originality of
that) - and from there, I made many interesting projections. What a
shame that some among my own countrymen have taken the initiative to
vilify me, as opposed to supporting me!
[ Every new and puzzling phenomena cannot lead to a
[ breakdown of old laws and formulation of new ones. Only
[ when it is simply IMPOSSIBLE to explain phenomena based
[ on well-established laws, does it become necessary to go
[ for new ones. This is not the case here - it is simply
[ bad science. Well at least, bad science is better than
[ voodoo science !!
[
[ Posted by Kumar - IIT M alumni on 11-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message from www.rediff.com
No, Mr Kumar, this is not bad science. On the contrary, it is the most
illuminating science, as it seeks to out the imperfect and wrong
theories of the past, and with that, form a new base for future
engineering. With present theory, it is indeed IMPOSSIBLE as you shout
to have a very hot core at the Earth or the Sun, and also to have a
strong magnetic field. I repeat, it is SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE to have a
core of temperature 6000deg and to have superconducting currents that
can alone cause the magnetic fields of the Sun and the Earth. That
Sun, Earth, and Jupiter have magnetic fields, is undeniable. That can
only happen when they have a very cold core.
My theories explain the magnetic field. Because, the Internal Energy
from the huge mass will always exist and radiate out, while the core is
always cooled by insulation - and the energy that seeps in gets
converted to ever-circulating current. I have explained this in more
detail elsewhere.
Thus my formula for extra energy makes Einstein's e=mcc redundant.
Elsewhere, I have shown how e=mcc was derived after a totally flawed
analysis of the results of the Michelson-Morley interferometry
experiment. I will be happy to repost that, if there is more interest.
I hope for the sake of virtue that you have a spine, Mr Kumar, and will
engage me in debate after such explanations.
Forwarded message:
[
[ Look at the number of terms in quotes -
[
[ 'self charging'
[ 'no upper limit'
[ 'internal force'
[ 'perpetual motion machine' -
[ this claim is just to create some media
[ attention.
[ Also there are no links to any of his
[ papers. Rediff should not publish
[ anything they hear.
[
[ Posted by Vitthaljar on 06-JUN-03
[
End of forwarded message
Another vapid comment.
Forwarded messages
[
[ Perpetual Idiocy
[
[ ITEM: Perpetual Motion Machine
[
[ The Indian newspaper Hindustan Times reports that "Indian
[ researcher challenges Newton's law".
[
[ An Indian research technologist in Australia has
[ challenged Newton's First Law of Motion and called for a
[ revision of the classical theory in the light of modern
[ technology. An alumnus of the Indian Institute of
[ Technology, Kharagpur, Arindam Banerjee, working for
[ Telstra in Melbourne, has contended in his recently
[ published book 'To The Stars!' that contrary to the
[ hitherto accepted theory, an object can actually be moved
[ without application of any external force.
That is not true. My point was that if translational motion can be
caused with Internal Energy alone without friction or throwing back
mass, we can make a space ship and also have a generator for unlimited
energy. The question is now to find an effect which does that. I have
been working on it for the last few years, and got two distinct
approaches. With time, I hope to get them working, and thus prove my
theory beyond question. I have not got any support from any source
from this, except from my close family and some very good, thoughtful
people who have been encouraging me. However, these people do not have
that much influence, unfortunately. Still, I think that over time my
ideas will gain force. What is true cannot be held under wraps for
ever.
[ [...]
[ It is embarrassing when one's country has such a large
[ number of gullible idiots that it makes the pages of
[ newspapers and web portals. What triggers these episodes
[ of national stupidity?
Just look at the mirror. Please ask yourself why you are so much
interested in making such baseless and hurtful comments. Have you
engaged in debate with me? Has anyone in the world got the guts to
engage me in face-to-face encounter about my new theories in physics?
Is there any talk show in the world happy to host me? I will be happy
to face *all* the phyisicists directly before the camera, before the
whole world.
After all, my point is based upon MATHEMATICS. I have found out a NEW
FORMULA that indicates the way to unlimited energy. Instead of
accepting this novelty, I am being harassed and insulted. Isn't *this*
shameful?
[
[ It seems to me that these episodes of national stupidity
[ betray a profound lack of confidence and dignity that
[ forces the country to grab hold of any straw however
[ illusory. We have always been easy prey to snake-oil
[ salesmen, . . . now the semi-literate are prey to the
[ pseudo- scientific crooks and vaguely technological
[ "breakthroughs" that seem to sprout up now and then.
I can understand all that, but this is irrelevant so far as *I* am
concerned. Put me before a whole panel of Nobel Laureates in Physics,
and then see what happens. Or even anyone with a physics degree. My
work was held to be logically valid by a person with a PhD in Physics
before the media took it up. After that, Outlook published an article
by me on the subject.
[ From introspection and personal experience, I admit that
[ when I am suffering from low self-esteem and a feeling of
[ failure, I wish I could win the California state lottery
[ or some huge jackpot. That is just a signal that I am not
[ sure that I am capable of making my life worthwhile by my
[ own effort and wish to be handed something for nothing.
[ Analogously, Indians desperately want a miracle to help
[ them avoid all the hard work that is really required to
[ make a decent living. (I am an Indian and therefore I can
[ criticize with impunity ;)
Irrelevant.
[ [...]
[ There ain't no child prodigies with the solution to the
[ nation's problem locked inside their heads - only idiot
[ savants impressing the merely idiots. And sometimes these
[ idiots happen to be faculty at the Institutes of Indian
[ Technology (sic). Do these IIT professors and other
[ scientists and technologists who jump on these comical
[ band-wagons have no shame?
Again, this is irrelevant and only reveals the insecurities of the
person posting.
[
[ I observe a minute of silence in mourning every time the
[ press reports the latest episode of mindless stupidity.
[ Hope we learn our lesson soon and get busy with some hard
[ work.
[
[ Posted by Atanu at July 17, 2003
This Atanu creature is really silly! But he does seem to influence
with his mindless blah even more silly types, as we see.
[
[ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[
[ Dear Atanu,
[
[ You have again hit the nail on the correct spot. It is
[ indeed a disgrace that these thugs get to grace the pages
[ of national newspapers in India. India is a vast open
[ country and I fail to understand how they cannot find
[ something worth while to print everyday.
Evidently, stories of politicians, criminals, sports stars, film stars,
murders, riots, religious hatreds etc. are far more interesting to
readers like Atanu and this one, than new ideas in physics. Now that
explains a lot.
[ [...]
[ It is indeed a disgrace that serious journalism has
[ been reduced to such a circus. As an Indian living in
[ New York I am indeed appalled and ashamed to hear of
[ these things. They make us look like Kipling's Jungle
[ Book.
[
[ Cheers
[
[ Salah Mattoo
No comment needed from my side. They are making personal attacks upon
me, not criticising or even discussing my new ideas in physics.
[
[ Posted by: Salah Mattoo at July 17, 2003 11:34 PM
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End of forwarded messages
Arindam Banerjee isn't aware of even basic concepts:
Forwarded message:
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[ From: "Raghu K" <k.raghu@indiatimes.com>
[ Subject: Re: Arindam Banerjee's non-Newtonian Challenge
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.indian,sci.physics,sci.energy
[ Date: 2003-06-12
[
[
[ Dear Mr Arindam Banerjee,
[
[ I had sent you a mail regarding your idea of machines for unlimited
[ energy after I noticed a news about it in PTI. I didn't get a reply
[ from you. So I thought I will explain what I said here.
[
[ I am referring to this post.
[
[
[
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&th=84e99e1f39db0f
0d&rnum=1
[
[ In the first paragraph, you said "Energy is force multiplied by the
[ distance over which the force is applied". But this is the definition
[ of work done, not energy. If you say that both are one and the same,
[ it is quite contradictory to your theory. So I assume that you were
[ talking about work done. Therefore,
[
[ W = MaS
[
[ Now you substitutued S by 0.5aTT. But according to Newtonian
[ mechanics, S = ut + 0.5att. If you substitute that value, you will get
[
[ W = Ma(VT + 0.5aTT) = MVV + 0.5MVV = 1.5MVV
[
[ This value is the work done when moving the body from a reference
[ frame of velocity V to a reference frame of velocity 2V, relative to
[ the initial reference frame (the one having 0 velocity). If you use
[ this value in your calculation for the sum of work done in steps -
[
[ W = W1 + W2 = 0.5MVV + 1.5MVV = 2MVV
[
[ Now, kinetic energy is
[
[ KE = 0.5M(2V)^2 = 2MVV
[
[ Hence W = KE
[
[ Hope you understood the problem in your logic. You were calculating
[ the work done in two steps relative to two different reference frames,
[ and trying to add them up. They are not additive. You cannot measure
[ work or energy absolutely, they are relative quantities. And you
[ cannot assume that their magnitude will be the same in different
[ reference frames.
[
[ Raghu
[
End of forwarded message
As I remember, I have replied to this poster in detail earlier. Jai
Maharaj has deleted my responses. Any responsible person can go
through this thread and find my response. Raghu's main problem is that
he has missed my point. My point was that if and only if you
accelerate a body with internal force (as opposed to other means such
as friction and pushing back mass) then and then only do you break the
laws of thermodynamics and thus create extra energy. Plus you also get
unlimited acceleration. So, if there is an effect which with internal
energy creates such a quality of motion for the mass in a closed
geometry, that is translational as well as rotational, then there is
formation of extra energy. To the extent a feedback loop is created,
there is a generator. So atomic energy is well explained by my
mathematical formula - the continuous collisions at very high rate
cause "velocity addition" which creates such an extraordinary release
of energy. It is very unlikely that these bombs will work in outer
space, where there is no mass outside the bomb which will contribute to
the energy effects.
The Raghus of this world, with their simple, standard, well-drilled
minds, make excellent scholars and later on, tiresome professors. They
have no insight, no originality, no depth of understanding. They exist
to stifle or retard progress with their narrow, closed mindsets.
Forwarded message:
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[ From: Francis A. Miniter (miniter@attglobalZZ.net)
[ Subject: Re: Really Cold Fusion
[ Newsgroups: sci.physics, rec.arts.books, soc.culture.indian
[ Date: 2005-05-11 18:47:30 PST
[
[
[ wrote:
[
[ > Arindam Banerjee wrote:
[ >
[ >> Idiot, I am not suggesting the mere violation of the laws of
[ >> thermodynamics - I am debunking them by labelling them as a special
[ >> case, only applicable where internal force effects are negligible. I
[ >> am overturning them after my discovery of a new mathematical formula
[ >> for unlimited energy, that is to say, by understanding how very large
[ >> bodies like the sun and earth continually emit energy without going
[ >> into such nonsense as e=mcc.
[ >
[ >
[ > Imbibing a bit too much of the Starbucks are we?
A typical dismissive statement. Now, does this address anything of
what I have said?
[
[
[ With his new mathematical formula, stars will no longer have to die or
go
[ supernova. They can burn on and on forever and forever in a steady
state
[ heaven. Wow.
[
[ Francis A. Miniter
[
End of forwarded message
Indeed, wow. I wish people were not so sarcastic. But that would be
expecting too much.
Enough for now.
Arindam Banerjee.
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