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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "John Schoenfeld"
Date: 01 Nov 2003 08:52:02 AM
Object: [snip] Time is not a progression idiot

John Tapper wrote:


What is this "t" in all these Physics equations? They call it "time"
but that does not exlain what it is. It seems all measurements of time
-- rising sun, moving hands in clock -- all of these relate to motion.


Time itself is strictly a non-recursive progression.


What exactly does that statement mean, and where in accepted Physics
is that precise statement from? What does recursive v. non-recursive
have to do with my question.

Most folks in or around academia maintain a facade of unnecesary
complexity when discussing elementary concepts. And unfortunately,
they get it wrong alot of the time.
Uncle Al doesn't know it yet, but his statement is riddled with
fallacies.
A mathematical progression is a sequence of numbers in which each
succeeding number is obtained by the action of the same rule on the
preceding number.
To define "time" with an "is a" relationship as a progression without
considering their mutally exclusive properties is naive. The
continuity of time prohibits it from being a progression.
Furthermore, the concept of a non-recursive progression is a fallacy
as a progression is recursive by definition.
JS
.

User: "Alfred Einstead"

Title: Re: [snip] Time is not a progression idiot 02 Nov 2003 05:10:44 AM
(John Schoenfeld):

Time itself is strictly a non-recursive progression.

What exactly does that statement mean, and where in accepted Physics
is that precise statement from?

Most folks in or around academia maintain a facade of unnecesary
complexity [...]

.... actually, you probably meant: a facade of excessive pedantry
and sometimes feigned literalism bordering on aphasia.

Furthermore, the concept of a non-recursive progression is a fallacy
as a progression is recursive by definition.

Case in point.
"Non-recursive" in the context above means the dependency of
events on prior events is not cyclic; i.e., no causal loops in
time, and no time travel.
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User: "John Schoenfeld"

Title: Re: [snip] Time is not a progression idiot 02 Nov 2003 06:17:44 PM
(Alfred Einstead) wrote in message news:<e58d56ae.0311020310.59a8090a@posting.google.com>...

j.schoenfeld@programmer.net (John Schoenfeld):

Time itself is strictly a non-recursive progression.

What exactly does that statement mean, and where in accepted Physics
is that precise statement from?

Most folks in or around academia maintain a facade of unnecesary
complexity [...]


... actually, you probably meant: a facade of excessive pedantry
and sometimes feigned literalism bordering on aphasia.

Furthermore, the concept of a non-recursive progression is a fallacy
as a progression is recursive by definition.


Case in point.

"Non-recursive" in the context above means the dependency of
events on prior events is not cyclic; i.e., no causal loops in
time, and no time travel.

No. To say that "time is a non-recursive progression" is to say
1. Time is discontinuous.
2. A progression is a sequence such that elements do not depend of
predecessor elements.
You are surprising me.
JS
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