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"zach" |
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19 Jun 2006 07:34:12 PM |
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Space Travel consequences |
I was curious about the effects of space travel on society. I would
like to hear more opinions at
groups.google.com/group/Haveyouthoughtaboutit
Everything from "How would YOU do it" to "What'll that do for the
economy"
Ever thought about that?
Let me know your thoughts.
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| User: "John Meglier" |
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| Title: Re: Space Travel consequences |
19 Jun 2006 09:54:03 PM |
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"zach" <zfolwick@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150763652.128533.207680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
I was curious about the effects of space travel on society. I would
like to hear more opinions at
groups.google.com/group/Haveyouthoughtaboutit
Everything from "How would YOU do it" to "What'll that do for the
economy"
Ever thought about that?
Let me know your thoughts.
the radiation would make everyone get cataracts and be blind in just a year.
Cancer would skyrocket.
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| User: "G. L. Bradford" |
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| Title: Re: Space Travel consequences |
22 Jun 2006 04:11:54 AM |
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"John Meglier" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4497633a$0$14993$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
"zach" <zfolwick@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150763652.128533.207680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
I was curious about the effects of space travel on society. I would
like to hear more opinions at
groups.google.com/group/Haveyouthoughtaboutit
Everything from "How would YOU do it" to "What'll that do for the
economy"
Ever thought about that?
Let me know your thoughts.
the radiation would make everyone get cataracts and be blind in just a
year. Cancer would skyrocket.
Yes and every single Apollo astronaut went blind in just a year after
going to the Moon. Also it is pure fiction that Life was ever a discoverer
of ways and means, was creative and inventive, and was an explorer and
colonizer and terraformer of alien, harsh, deadly forbidding "hellhole"
environs (such as Earth circa 4.5 billion B.C.E.). And as to Life continuing
and expanding and growing in such flat fiction, such utter hogwash, its all
just a bunch of crap.
GLB
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| User: "Roy L. Fuchs" |
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| Title: Re: Space Travel consequences |
22 Jun 2006 10:07:30 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 05:11:54 -0400, "G. L. Bradford"
<glbrad01@insightbb.com> Gave us:
"John Meglier" <spamless@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4497633a$0$14993$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
"zach" <zfolwick@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150763652.128533.207680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
I was curious about the effects of space travel on society. I would
like to hear more opinions at
groups.google.com/group/Haveyouthoughtaboutit
Everything from "How would YOU do it" to "What'll that do for the
economy"
Ever thought about that?
Let me know your thoughts.
the radiation would make everyone get cataracts and be blind in just a
year. Cancer would skyrocket.
Yes and every single Apollo astronaut went blind in just a year after
going to the Moon. Also it is pure fiction that Life was ever a discoverer
of ways and means, was creative and inventive, and was an explorer and
colonizer and terraformer of alien, harsh, deadly forbidding "hellhole"
environs (such as Earth circa 4.5 billion B.C.E.). And as to Life continuing
and expanding and growing in such flat fiction, such utter hogwash, its all
just a bunch of crap.
If this gibberish is you attempting to say that we did not place men
on the moon on several occasions, then I say it is you that is the
utter hogwash.
Oink for us, *****.
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| User: "Brad Guth" |
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| Title: Re: Space Travel consequences |
28 Jun 2006 08:28:24 AM |
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John Meglier wrote:
the radiation would make everyone get cataracts and be blind in just a year.
Cancer would skyrocket.
Actually on most any given bad solar/cosmic/moon day, that TBI limit
might be accomplished in hours if not minutes.
Thus far we have no hard-science proof that anything that ever went to
the moon surface didn't impact and/or sink out of sight.
Did you know that Kodak made it possible to process their film on the
fly, and others made it possible to scan that film on the fly, thus no
conventionally exposed film was ever returned to Earth for subsequent
developing that wasn't radiated to the point of being damaged if not
unusable.
Outside our Van Allen belts it's short term humanly survivable as long
as you're extremely well shielded and not within sight of our
gamma/xray moon, our sun isn't having another bad day and there's
otherwise nothing in the cosmic realm of nasty gamma and hard-X-ray
events taking place. Therefore a few hours out of any given month it's
perfectly survivable, and even longer if you've damn lucky and got that
cash of banked bone marrow as your backup plan-B.
I suppose if there actually were such a fly-by-rocket lander (US or
Russian), as such there'd be all sorts of R&D prototypes that could
have been demonstrated right here on Earth, and utilized ever since for
the likes of doing Mars or other moons.
Do you know that our supposed landers had no primary
airframe/spacecraft momentum reaction wheels to speak of, other than
instrumentation.
Oddly, we still have nothing situated within LL-1. At a reaction fuel
budget of perhaps a kg/tonne/month, station-keeping within LL-1 or
ME-L1 is quite doable. It may even be as little as 0.1 kg/tonne/month
of reaction fuel demand if using an Xe-->ion thruster should be more
than sufficient, and otherwise I'm thinking a mg/tonne/month of using
Ra-->LRn-->Rn-->ion (Rn laser cannon) thrust might offer an interesting
alternative. Perhaps using up a cash of U235 isn't such a bad idea, at
least according to William Mook.
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Brad Guth
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| User: "Roy L. Fuchs" |
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| Title: Re: Space Travel consequences |
19 Jun 2006 09:34:35 PM |
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On 19 Jun 2006 17:34:12 -0700, "zach" <zfolwick@gmail.com> Gave us:
I was curious about the effects of space travel on society. I would
like to hear more opinions at
This is Usenet. You post your crap here, you can come read your
answers here.
Bone up on Usenet:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/1855
Everything from "How would YOU do it" to "What'll that do for the
economy"
It will always be a high cost luxury endeavor.
Popping up into low earth orbit and back down isn't what I am talking
about either.
You said "space travel".
To me that at least means the moon or Mars as I feel that another
terrestrial sphere is required to meet the definition. To travel, one
must go to some place, not just the emptiness of space to a spot where
you know right where you are above a certain place. To me, it would
require being able to park one's self over a specific locale above an
entirely different spheroid.
I believe that if that begins to happen again, the effect can be
profound. We would eventually begin full time habitation on say the
moon, and perhaps even go for couples starting families there. Wow.
That would blow some folks' minds. Tralfamador all over again. We
could certainly easily inhabit the moon. We could build and grow
gardens (even better than here). We could make structures such that a
sudden leak or exterior skin rupture could easily be fixed with
absolutely no danger to persons in the location. They would have a
couple of minutes to get to a low pressure chamber built just for such
a purpose as escaping a sudden leak, or putting on one's suit, and
traversing outside. The room would be the same room that any escape
would take place in. One is escaping a low pressure environment for a
higher pressure one until the other can be repaired.
Ever thought about that?
Going to further away, larger bodies, and considering habitation is
even more profound as smoother (than ours), atmosphere containing
spheroids have some pretty high wind velocities on them as a rule.
Let me know your thoughts.
Most would take it like we all took "cell phones". as in:
"Ehhh..." (shrug)
Many would say something about building better schools for their
kids instead (in the current society especially) of spending tax
dollars on something that maybe future generations will be doing.
The beat goes on...
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