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28 Apr 2005 08:16:58 PM |
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Stick THIS up your ***** BUSH lier in office |
Gas Taxes
Address:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
GAS tax is bacause gas was too cheep .
Based on the gas paid for and the tax colected
uncle BUSH and the GOV is makeing a lot of money on high gas prices.
IF the price of gas is a problem the UNTAX the fucking gas.
taxes go up because the MOB is in office.
Gas cost more because the MOB is in office.
the CIA IMPORTS 99 % of all drugs.
4 million tons of pot is GROWN and SOLD by our MOB BOSSES IN OFFICE.
NO ONE can IMPORT 4 million tons a year other than the CIA .
They import pot , bust you for it .
Then they nead more pigs and more laws and less rights.
1.2 BILLION acres under the GOV controle wile people live in boxes.
The oil in alaska belongs to the OIL BOSSES !
I voted for Bush once but I wish he was dead.
The worse presdet usa ever had.
The fuckin fool gave away 5 trillion the first year now wants to give
SS to brokers .
The fucker cant run his oil co and cant run his household budget let
allone usa.
he pumps his oil UNDER the mexican boarder
and my people know where that pipe is now.
Bush is going down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He wount close the boarder ,,his oil would stop and he wount make
700,000 a year no more.
Im sending a gift to DEMS ,,the BUSH OIL TAP UNDER THE BOARDER
!!!!!!!!!
I got wize when looking the sounding over .
Bush pumped 12 million but he made 700,000 !
But 12 million did not come out of his ground.
12 million came under the mexico boarder.
His dads deal is now his deal.
Come kill me bush !!!
MOB tactics will backfire.
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| User: "Quantum Mirror" |
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29 Apr 2005 11:09:41 AM |
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"4 million tons of pot is GROWN and SOLD by our MOB BOSSES IN OFFICE.
NO ONE can IMPORT 4 million tons a year other than the CIA "
WOW that is 25 pounds for every man woman and child in the US. One hell
of a habit. The air must be polluted in your neighborhood. Thats over a
(cough) ounce (cough) a day. Cough cough cough cough hack cough.
Yer a dunce!
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29 Apr 2005 09:21:21 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27659-42718B0A-258@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Gas Taxes
Address:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
GAS tax is bacause gas was too cheep .
Based on the gas paid for and the tax colected
uncle BUSH and the GOV is makeing a lot of money on high gas prices.
IF the price of gas is a problem the UNTAX the fucking gas.
Na gas in the USA is too cheap.
If the price of gas is a problem buy a more efficient car!
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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29 Apr 2005 10:19:00 AM |
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CWatters wrote:
"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27659-42718B0A-258@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Gas Taxes
Address:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
GAS tax is bacause gas was too cheep .
Based on the gas paid for and the tax colected
uncle BUSH and the GOV is makeing a lot of money on high gas
prices.
IF the price of gas is a problem the UNTAX the fucking gas.
Na gas in the USA is too cheap.
If the price of gas is a problem buy a more efficient car!
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
-Mark Martin
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30 Apr 2005 03:46:33 AM |
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In article <1114787940.729242.141790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote:
CWatters wrote:
"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27659-42718B0A-258@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Gas Taxes
Address:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
GAS tax is bacause gas was too cheep .
Based on the gas paid for and the tax colected
uncle BUSH and the GOV is makeing a lot of money on high gas
prices.
IF the price of gas is a problem the UNTAX the fucking gas.
Na gas in the USA is too cheap.
If the price of gas is a problem buy a more efficient car!
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
Amazing. I had a Honda Civic, 1984, that would get 42 MPG. I
never found out what its highway mileage was. Adding an extra
8 MPG isn't worth the thousands of dollars extra for the car.
I have a Civic now that only gets 34-39 MPG. I don't know
what happened to engines that made them get less efficient. EPA?
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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30 Apr 2005 10:06:16 AM |
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wrote:
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The
average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
Amazing. I had a Honda Civic, 1984, that would get 42 MPG. I
never found out what its highway mileage was. Adding an extra
8 MPG isn't worth the thousands of dollars extra for the car.
I have a Civic now that only gets 34-39 MPG. I don't know
what happened to engines that made them get less efficient. EPA?
I don't know what the deal is either. But we needed a new car, and
it was only $19,000, which is about par for the course, so we went for
it. I personally haven't had another car that got more than about 30
mpg.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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30 Apr 2005 10:54:05 AM |
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I mix air intake gas mix just like your car and put O=B2 boost into it .
I run 2 cylinders as 2 stoke using water as the pistons
for a long stroke , sending the water down one and up the other.
Inside each cylinder is a smaller pipe cylinder with its own injectors
but a shorter stoke 1/4 as long that fires 1/50 seconds befor the big
cylinder does to boost the compreson to 16 to 1 befor DI.
The twin cylinders drive the 24 inch slideng vane rotor at 500 rpm.
The inner wheel inside the rotor slides up to push vanes out the top
as A cylinder runs down then the inner wheel cam slides down 2 inches in
1/1000 th second to push the vanes out the bottom of the cylinders .
The directors move from flush with the rotor to a gap 1/100 th between
the vanes no matter how far out the vanes are pushed.
There is no coolant and steam boosted with O=B2 and less gas is better
than just gas.
NOTE no coolant and the engine is insulated to keep all its heat in.
An amasing 2000 foot pounds T and varitable cam is the throdle makes
transmisions un-neaded.
138 hp 516 MPG
277 HP 250 MPG
10 HP 2500 MPG
in the same engine .
The engine can change its CI wile running.
45 HP will go 1000 mpg.
In an engine you cant wear out .
You can't ever have a problem with it.
It will run like a dream for the rest of your life.
You will never replace a thing .
The things run off the engine will nead replaced but not this simple
engine .
This engine is the LPE liquid piston engine.
I allso biult a liquid metel engine .
ALL you will add is air .............
for 50,000 miles , bring it in and for 300 bucks we will refill it.
Polution 0 %.
The LPE 2 cycle gas twin will cost $ 2000 each in usa ,,100 bucks india
china ..
300 rusia 2000 euro
I wanrned USA GOV BUSH what would happen. So OIL is up 100 % .
They pray its not going to happen and they have 7 engines ,,they hope
like hell I dont have the power to do it.
BUT forbs pointed out ,,I spet 4 billion bucks some place and is not
represented by any stock anywhere .
Can you imagine the auto pllant engine plant $ 4 billion bucks biulds
in china ???????
Now the import rights are secure befor anyone sees the engine or the
plant .
This plant is so big , it would not fit in detroit.
I would have biult in in detroit ,,but the USA GOV dont want to end the
oil age.
all the MOB bosses and OIL bosses fear te LPE.
They know damb well the LPE is real a simple engine that will turn the
industry upside down.
They fear the engine biult for the people .
Suddenly oil will be worthless.
The auto plants 10 years behind me.
The impact will send heads rolling down .
Next week Im posting pics ,,it will no longer matter.
Im going to post whale 7 ,,image after image.
I might even give the engine room tour.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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02 May 2005 10:05:42 AM |
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You saw it ,,you run idiot crap about it.
Your stuuupid.
Do the math dumbass .
You dickheads cant do the math nor will do it honest . OR your just
too stupid to be able to do it corect.
Combined gas air steam O=B2 boosted 2 stroke
running a 24 inch sliding vane rotor is too much for your retarted
brains.
Re: Stick THIS up your ***** BUSH lier in office
GravityPhysics
I mix air intake gas mix just like your car and put O=B2 boost into it .
I run 2 cylinders as 2 stoke using water as the pistons
for a long stroke , sending the water down one and up the other. Inside
each cylinder is a smaller pipe cylinder with its own injectors
but a shorter stoke 1/4 as long that fires 1/50 seconds befor the big
cylinder does to boost the compreson to 16 to 1 befor DI.
=A0=A0The twin cylinders drive the 24 inch slideng vane rotor at 500
rpm. The inner wheel inside the rotor slides up to push vanes out the
top
as A cylinder runs down then the inner wheel cam slides down 2 inches in
1/1000 th second to push the vanes out the bottom of the cylinders .
=A0=A0The directors move from flush with the rotor to a gap 1/100 th
between the vanes no matter how far out the vanes are pushed.
=A0=A0There is no coolant and steam boosted with O=B2 and less gas is
better than just gas.
NOTE no coolant and the engine is insulated to keep all its heat in.
=A0=A0An amasing 2000 foot pounds T and varitable cam is the throdle
makes transmisions un-neaded.
138 hp 516 MPG
277 HP 250 MPG
10 HP 2500 MPG
in the same engine .
The engine can change its CI wile running. 45 HP will go 1000 mpg.
In an engine you cant wear out .
You can't ever have a problem with it.
It will run like a dream for the rest of your life. You will never
replace a thing .
=A0=A0The things run off the engine will nead replaced but not this
simple engine .
This engine is the LPE liquid piston engine. I allso biult a liquid
metel engine .
ALL you will add is air .............
for 50,000 miles , bring it in and for 300 bucks we will refill it.
Polution 0 %.
The LPE 2 cycle gas twin will cost $ 2000 each in usa ,,100 bucks india
china ..
300 rusia 2000 euro
I wanrned USA GOV BUSH what would happen. So OIL is up 100 % . They pray
its not going to happen and they have 7 engines ,,they hope
like hell I dont have the power to do it. BUT forbs pointed out ,,I spet
4 billion bucks some place and is not
represented by any stock anywhere .
=A0=A0=A0=A0Can you imagine the auto pllant engine plant $ 4 billion
bucks biulds in china ???????
=A0=A0Now the import rights are secure befor anyone sees the engine or
the plant .
=A0=A0This plant is so big , it would not fit in detroit.
=A0=A0I would have biult in in detroit ,,but the USA GOV dont want to
end the oil age.
=A0=A0all the MOB bosses and OIL bosses fear te LPE. They know damb well
the LPE is real a simple engine that will turn the
industry upside down.
They fear the engine biult for the people . Suddenly oil will be
worthless.
The auto plants 10 years behind me.
=A0=A0The impact will send heads rolling down .
Next week Im posting pics ,,it will no longer matter. Im going to post
whale 7 ,,image after image.
I might even give the engine room tour.
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| User: "yt56erd" |
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09 May 2005 05:25:24 AM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
You saw it ,,you run idiot crap about it.
Your stuuupid.
Do the math dumbass .
You dickheads cant do the math nor will do it honest . OR your just
too stupid to be able to do it corect.
Combined gas air steam O=B2 boosted 2 stroke
running a 24 inch sliding vane rotor is too much for your retarted
brains.
<snip gibberish>
wow. have you stopped taking your medications now?
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| User: "" |
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01 May 2005 05:08:00 AM |
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In article <1114873575.975667.245800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbah...@aol.com wrote:
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The
average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
Amazing. I had a Honda Civic, 1984, that would get 42 MPG. I
never found out what its highway mileage was. Adding an extra
8 MPG isn't worth the thousands of dollars extra for the car.
I have a Civic now that only gets 34-39 MPG. I don't know
what happened to engines that made them get less efficient. EPA?
I don't know what the deal is either. But we needed a new car, and
it was only $19,000,
That's more than my house cost.
..which is about par for the course, so we went for
it. I personally haven't had another car that got more than about 30
mpg.
The last time I owned one that did less was in 1972.
Hint: Dump the automatic transmission and learn how to
operate the car well and you'll boost your mileage a lot.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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01 May 2005 11:16:51 AM |
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wrote:
In article <1114873575.975667.245800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote:
wrote:
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The
average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
Amazing. I had a Honda Civic, 1984, that would get 42 MPG. I
never found out what its highway mileage was. Adding an extra
8 MPG isn't worth the thousands of dollars extra for the car.
I have a Civic now that only gets 34-39 MPG. I don't know
what happened to engines that made them get less efficient. EPA?
I don't know what the deal is either. But we needed a new car,
and
it was only $19,000,
That's more than my house cost.
Ok. But $19,000 is still about average for a new car these days.
..which is about par for the course, so we went for
it. I personally haven't had another car that got more than about 30
mpg.
The last time I owned one that did less was in 1972.
Well, in 1972 I was 13 years old. I didn't even care to drive a car
'til I was nearly 21 in 1980. If I've chosen the wrong cars to drive in
the last 25 years, that's my misfortune I suppose, but there's nothing
to be done to change history now.
Hint: Dump the automatic transmission and learn how to
operate the car well and you'll boost your mileage a lot.
I doubt that I operate our cars poorly, including the ones with
manual transmissions. (used pickup truck, used convertible) If I say
so myself, I am a very boring driver. :)
-Mark Martin
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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01 May 2005 09:15:00 PM |
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lets see the math martin ...post the math ***** and prove you cant
back up your retared *****.
The rotor is 1 inch thick ..the only demention you lack to draw it.
600 psi 24 inch rotor 1 inch vane out the rotor.
( 2 ) 400 ci cylinders 3 inch pipes .
2 stroke liquid water pistons at 60 strokes per 1 per second.
liquid oxygen boosted gas air mix .
no coolant.
lets see your fucking math stupid ***** *****.
This simple 2 stoke engine beats te ***** out of all the other methods
on earth .
TGOTB programed .
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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01 May 2005 10:21:44 PM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
lets see the math martin ...post the math ***** and prove you cant
back up your retared *****.
Back up what?
-Mark Martin
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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01 May 2005 10:43:59 PM |
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Your so fuckng stupid you dont know what you said from day to day.
dumbas martin
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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01 May 2005 10:44:42 PM |
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do the math on LPE dumbfuck.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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02 May 2005 06:18:08 AM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
do the math on LPE dumbfuck.
Hey, *****, what the hell are you talking about? WHAT is LPE? What
claims have I made about it, what ever the hell it is? All I've been
talking about on this thread is the miles per gallon my new car gets.
You're such a fuckwad.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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02 May 2005 08:53:46 AM |
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In sci.physics, Mark Martin
<qed100@hotmail.com>
wrote
on 2 May 2005 04:18:08 -0700
<1115032688.032641.204340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>:
tj Frazir wrote:
do the math on LPE dumbfuck.
Hey, *****, what the hell are you talking about? WHAT is LPE? What
claims have I made about it, what ever the hell it is? All I've been
talking about on this thread is the miles per gallon my new car gets.
You're such a fuckwad.
-Mark Martin
Probably LPE = liquid piston engine. I've not analyzed his latest
figures.
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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30 Apr 2005 01:00:02 PM |
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In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Sat, 30 Apr 05 08:46:33 GMT
<MeGdneoxVoby_-7fRVn-2w@rcn.net>:
In article <1114787940.729242.141790@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote:
CWatters wrote:
"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27659-42718B0A-258@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Gas Taxes
Address:http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
GAS tax is bacause gas was too cheep .
Based on the gas paid for and the tax colected
uncle BUSH and the GOV is makeing a lot of money on high
gas prices. IF the price of gas is a problem the UNTAX
the fucking gas.
Na gas in the USA is too cheap.
If the price of gas is a problem buy a more efficient car!
My wife & I just purchased a Honda gas/electric hybrid. The average
mileage approaches 50 mpg, and that's driving in the city.
Amazing. I had a Honda Civic, 1984, that would get 42 MPG. I
never found out what its highway mileage was. Adding an extra
8 MPG isn't worth the thousands of dollars extra for the car.
I have a Civic now that only gets 34-39 MPG. I don't know
what happened to engines that made them get less efficient. EPA?
If one has a car that runs 30 mpg (such as my Saturn), and drives
it 15,000 miles in a year, with $2.00/gal gas, one can compute
that one is spending $1000/year on gas. Over the assumed lifetime
of 10 years or so, that's barely half the cost of the car; trading
this in early for a car that gets 60 mpg isn't worth it unless gas
shoots up to about $8/gal.
Of course, if it drops dead, I'd consider it.
I agree that gas is cheaper here than in Europe.
http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/eupetrolprices/
gives the prices (in euros; 1 euro = about US$1.29) per liter.
As of this writing the average is 1.022 euro/liter across all
listed nations, or $5/gal. This contrasts to an average
gas price around here of about $2.23/gal.
The cost distribution (represented as a gas pump) is
mildly interesting:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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01 May 2005 05:05:54 AM |
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In article <atrck2-lrd.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
<snip>
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
That's right. It is a sin to plan ahead.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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01 May 2005 02:00:06 PM |
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In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Sun, 01 May 05 10:05:54 GMT
<pcydneIgjrMNW-nfRVn-gg@rcn.net>:
In article <atrck2-lrd.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
<snip>
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
That's right. It is a sin to plan ahead.
An interesting aside in today's NY Times, BTW: we might reinstate
the 55mph speed limit, if anyone had the guts to suggest it outside
of the newreporters.
Not sure how much people would like it (or, in light of the start-stop
of many roadways during so-called "rush hour" [which really should
be renamed "crawl hour", but never mind logic; this is, after all,
the US], how much energy it would actually save) but a naive calculation
would suggest a savings of 1 - (55/65)^2 = 28.4%, under perfect
conditions. (This takes into account acceleration and fluid drag,
both of which have v^2 terms.)
It might just drop oil prices a smidge or two.
We'll see.
[.sigsnip]
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#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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02 May 2005 03:16:01 AM |
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In article <quifk2-7m.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Sun, 01 May 05 10:05:54 GMT
<pcydneIgjrMNW-nfRVn-gg@rcn.net>:
In article <atrck2-lrd.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
<snip>
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
That's right. It is a sin to plan ahead.
An interesting aside in today's NY Times, BTW: we might reinstate
the 55mph speed limit, if anyone had the guts to suggest it outside
of the newreporters.
Not sure how much people would like it (or, in light of the start-stop
of many roadways during so-called "rush hour" [which really should
be renamed "crawl hour", but never mind logic; this is, after all,
the US], how much energy it would actually save) but a naive calculation
would suggest a savings of 1 - (55/65)^2 = 28.4%, under perfect
conditions.
There is no such thing as perfect conditions on the road. You
would get much better savings if people put an uncooked egg on
the accelerator pedal.
..(This takes into account acceleration and fluid drag,
both of which have v^2 terms.)
It might just drop oil prices a smidge or two.
No, it won't. It didn't back then and all it'll do is raise
transport costs of goods even more. In addition, this would
give the erroneous impression that driving slower will solve
current and future energy problems. It will not. Look at
what sector uses most of the oil. It will take 20 years
to replace that usage, assuming judges throw out lawsuits..
which they won't.
We'll see.
Think long-term thoughts.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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02 May 2005 08:53:46 AM |
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In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Mon, 02 May 05 08:16:01 GMT
<UeadnRJmdNjEY-jfRVn-tQ@rcn.net>:
In article <quifk2-7m.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Sun, 01 May 05 10:05:54 GMT
<pcydneIgjrMNW-nfRVn-gg@rcn.net>:
In article <atrck2-lrd.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
<snip>
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
That's right. It is a sin to plan ahead.
An interesting aside in today's NY Times, BTW: we might reinstate
the 55mph speed limit, if anyone had the guts to suggest it outside
of the newreporters.
Not sure how much people would like it (or, in light of the start-stop
of many roadways during so-called "rush hour" [which really should
be renamed "crawl hour", but never mind logic; this is, after all,
the US], how much energy it would actually save) but a naive calculation
would suggest a savings of 1 - (55/65)^2 = 28.4%, under perfect
conditions.
There is no such thing as perfect conditions on the road. You
would get much better savings if people put an uncooked egg on
the accelerator pedal.
An interesting idea. :-) Sounds related to some old advice
regarding driving in general; one should drive as if one
has a milk jug or milk carton balanced on the dashboard.
Or something like that. :-)
..(This takes into account acceleration and fluid drag,
both of which have v^2 terms.)
It might just drop oil prices a smidge or two.
No, it won't. It didn't back then and all it'll do is raise
transport costs of goods even more. In addition, this would
give the erroneous impression that driving slower will solve
current and future energy problems. It will not. Look at
what sector uses most of the oil. It will take 20 years
to replace that usage, assuming judges throw out lawsuits..
which they won't.
We'll see.
Think long-term thoughts.
Well, ideally we wouldn't need to suck it from the ground.
We'd generate it using a process involving renewable
energy, although research so far has been disappointing
with respect to oil production from farmland and/or
bioengineered "bugs"; the yield is apparently much less
than 100 W/m^2, which is presumably the energy one can
count on from solar [and one might get much more than
that, on a hot, sunny day; the raw insolation is 10x that]
using a solar cell.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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06 May 2005 05:02:51 AM |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
on Sun, 01 May 05 10:05:54 GMT
<pcydneIgjrMNW-nfRVn-gg@rcn.net>:
In article <atrck2-lrd.ln1@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>,
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net>
wrote:
In sci.physics,
<>
wrote
<snip>
But never mind that; more drilling in the ANWR! Gotta slake that
American thirst... :-)
*burp*
That's right. It is a sin to plan ahead.
An interesting aside in today's NY Times, BTW: we might reinstate
the 55mph speed limit, if anyone had the guts to suggest it outside
of the newreporters.
Not sure how much people would like it (or, in light of the
start-stop
of many roadways during so-called "rush hour" [which really should
be renamed "crawl hour", but never mind logic; this is, after all,
the US], how much energy it would actually save) but a naive
calculation
would suggest a savings of 1 - (55/65)^2 = 28.4%, under perfect
conditions. (This takes into account acceleration and fluid drag,
both of which have v^2 terms.)
It might just drop oil prices a smidge or two.
We'll see.
Considering that Jimmy Carter:
1. Was honest, truthful and moral.
2. Tried to put America on track to
energy conservation and environmental protection.
3. Established the oil reserve program.
(Which is the best insurance program that America has.)
4. Tried to restore confidence in nuclear power.
(Remember Three Mile Island?)
5. Set the stage for the demise of Communism,
by boycotting the Moscow Olympics,
and establishing the concept of the "Evil Empire".
(If Russia had made a great positive impact
on the world with their Olympics,
they might well be ruling the world today.)
6. Solved the North Korea problem.
( Which George Bush is really screwing up.)
7. Had the Middle East situation under control,
and near complete solution.
(Before Sharon instigated the assassination of Rabin.)
( This alone would have prevented 911,
if Clinton had not killed Bin Laden's son,
and if George Bush had not come into office
trying to instigate Palestinian sympathizers
into committing an act of terrorism,
that he could use as an excuse to attack Iraq,
and steal their oil.)
It seems that the media should
contrast Jimmy Carter with George Bush and Bill Clinton,
and give him the credit he deserves.
With his verbal and physical attacks on Iraq, France,
North Korea, the United Nations, Palestinians, Muslims, etc.
and his lying, bullying and posturing,
George Bush has destroyed the credibility of America,
resurrected Russia, and passed the torch of world leadership
to Russia and China.
Hopefully another Jimmy Carter will come along,
and restore the trust and respect that the world
had for America before Clinton and George Bush,
and get America back on track
to conserving oil, maintaining the environment,
implementing nuclear power,
solving the Middle East problem,
solving the North Korea problem,
and in short, acting like rational, intelligent, good neighbors
to all of the peoples of the world.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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06 May 2005 12:04:12 PM |
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On 6 May 2005 03:02:51 -0700, wrote:
Considering that Jimmy Carter:
1. Was honest, truthful and moral.
80,000 Iranian peaceful demonstrators were shot and
killed in the streets of Iran during two years, on the
account of Carter's insistance that Shah does not give
more legal power to people of Iran. We don't forget
that Tom. We'll deal with it after we're done with you
for the 1953 coup you arranged in Tehran. It's all in
store.
[...]
7. Had the Middle East situation under control,
Ford's administration wasn't that bad. It did follow
some of the major decisions of Nixon. Things _would_
stay great for USA. But it _could_ not, cause
babyboomers started to count as voters having just
grown out of euphoria, so... you got Carter and
greatness was not for you to have anymore. See, your
baby boomers were just a bit too stupid for the issue
of Iranians. They didn't know jack to be exact.
Going from Nixon to a Carter was like tossing the
science know-how in favor of "Heinlein". USA indeed
heinleined itself with the world, since. Bush the son
is like another Nixon because he follows what's good
for those who know the world. Not just "Irvine".
You _will_ not rise above Brazil if you don't know the
world well. And you don't know the world.
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08 May 2005 09:22:09 AM |
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Maleki wrote:
On 6 May 2005 03:02:51 -0700, wrote:
Considering that Jimmy Carter:
1. Was honest, truthful and moral.
80,000 Iranian peaceful demonstrators were shot and
killed in the streets of Iran during two years, on the
account of Carter's insistance that Shah does not give
more legal power to people of Iran. We don't forget
that Tom. We'll deal with it after we're done with you
for the 1953 coup you arranged in Tehran. It's all in
store.
[...]
7. Had the Middle East situation under control,
Ford's administration wasn't that bad. It did follow
some of the major decisions of Nixon. Things _would_
stay great for USA. But it _could_ not, cause
babyboomers started to count as voters having just
grown out of euphoria, so... you got Carter and
greatness was not for you to have anymore. See, your
baby boomers were just a bit too stupid for the issue
of Iranians. They didn't know jack to be exact.
Going from Nixon to a Carter was like tossing the
science know-how in favor of "Heinlein". USA indeed
heinleined itself with the world, since. Bush the son
is like another Nixon because he follows what's good
for those who know the world.
Yep! Bush knows the world.
"Mission accomplished!"
"Bring 'em on!"
Bush's agenda as soon as he got into office
was to ***** off enough Palestinians sympathizers,
and Muslims, so that one would commit an act of terrorism
against America, so that he would have an excuse to invade Iraq,
and steal their oil. He put a chip on his shoulder by
climbing in bed with Sharon, criticizing the Palestinians
for throwing rocks at Israeli tanks, and he demeaned the
South African Racism conference which planned to
address the middle east problem, and no doubt he was
"Shocked and awed" at the response he got.
Before Bush took office almost all the peoples in the
world, trusted, respected, admired and emulated America,
and in less than two years Bush managed to ***** away
all the trust and respect that American companies like
Kodak, IBM, Coca Cola, Motorola, Microsoft, etc.
had spent decades in building up, and now all nations
except Israel are distancing themselves from America,
forming new military and trade alliances, rearming,
moving their money from dollars to euros, finding new
sources for American made products, etc.
Bush knows that he has really ***** up America,
and his agenda for his second term is to try
to con enough people into believing that he was
acting from a high moral purpose, rather than trying
to steal Iraq's oil, so that he will not be turned over
to an international court to be tried for his war crimes.
Yep! That Bush really knows the world.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Maleki" |
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08 May 2005 08:52:14 PM |
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On 8 May 2005 07:22:09 -0700, wrote:
Maleki wrote:
On 6 May 2005 03:02:51 -0700, wrote:
Considering that Jimmy Carter:
1. Was honest, truthful and moral.
80,000 Iranian peaceful demonstrators were shot and
killed in the streets of Iran during two years, on the
account of Carter's insistance that Shah does not give
more legal power to people of Iran. We don't forget
that Tom. We'll deal with it after we're done with you
for the 1953 coup you arranged in Tehran. It's all in
store.
[...]
7. Had the Middle East situation under control,
Ford's administration wasn't that bad. It did follow
some of the major decisions of Nixon. Things _would_
stay great for USA. But it _could_ not, cause
babyboomers started to count as voters having just
grown out of euphoria, so... you got Carter and
greatness was not for you to have anymore. See, your
baby boomers were just a bit too stupid for the issue
of Iranians. They didn't know jack to be exact.
Going from Nixon to a Carter was like tossing the
science know-how in favor of "Heinlein". USA indeed
heinleined itself with the world, since. Bush the son
is like another Nixon because he follows what's good
for those who know the world.
Yep! Bush knows the world.
"Mission accomplished!"
"Bring 'em on!"
Bush's agenda as soon as he got into office
was to ***** off enough Palestinians sympathizers,
and Muslims, so that one would commit an act of terrorism
against America, so that he would have an excuse to invade Iraq,
and steal their oil. He put a chip on his shoulder by
climbing in bed with Sharon, criticizing the Palestinians
for throwing rocks at Israeli tanks, and he demeaned the
South African Racism conference which planned to
address the middle east problem, and no doubt he was
"Shocked and awed" at the response he got.
Before Bush took office almost all the peoples in the
world, trusted, respected, admired and emulated America,
and in less than two years Bush managed to ***** away
all the trust and respect that American companies like
Kodak, IBM, Coca Cola, Motorola, Microsoft, etc.
had spent decades in building up, and now all nations
except Israel are distancing themselves from America,
forming new military and trade alliances, rearming,
moving their money from dollars to euros, finding new
sources for American made products, etc.
Bush knows that he has really ***** up America,
and his agenda for his second term is to try
to con enough people into believing that he was
acting from a high moral purpose, rather than trying
to steal Iraq's oil, so that he will not be turned over
to an international court to be tried for his war crimes.
Yep! That Bush really knows the world.
I don't know how to argue with you Tom. It is like
trying to argue my new kitten off this keyboard :)
You're just set, like god himself wishes so, on what
you want to think.
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| User: "hanson" |
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09 May 2005 02:08:31 AM |
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Poor Sod, Tom CrackPotter <> wrote in message
news:1115562129.406974.256200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
On 6 May 2005 03:02:51 -0700, wrote:
Considering that Jimmy Carter:
1. Was honest, truthful and moral.
Mehram Maleki wrote:
80,000 Iranian were killed on the account of Carter's
insistance. We don't forget that Tom. We'll deal with it
after we're done with you for the 1953 coup you arranged
in Tehran. It's all in store.
Bush the son is like another Nixon because he follows
what's good for those who know the world.
[Crack Potter, the commie instigates:]
Yep! Bush knows the world. "Mission accomplished!"
"Bring 'em on!"... so that he would have an excuse to ...
[hanson]
Tom, you dumbshit, do you have to ***** off **everybody**?
Mehram is from Iran, not from Iraq. You are pissing at
the wrong tree and he don't like neither you nor what you
you've said despite your own vile anti-American attitude,
from you a US-expatriot. You are such bad, substandard
peddler for your notions, Tom.
No Sale by you neither here nor there. Poor sod!.. ahaha...
[Broke and Poor Sod Tom jealously howls],
..... invade Iraq, and steal their oil.
Bush knows that he has really ***** up America,
and his agenda for his second term is to try
to con enough people into believing that he was
acting from a high moral purpose, rather than
trying to steal Iraq's oil,
[hanson]
You don't even own a car, Tom-Tom, so what do you
care...ahahaha... Cheap oil prices are good for everybody,
car owners, transportation industry, the government to siphon
taxes off from (to pay for your Social Security check!), etc.
Oil wasn't made by Iraqis, it's like rainwater or air. Oil
belongs to anybody who can get his hands on it, pump it
out, refine it and market it. Oil people are international and
good folk. They keep your ***** warm and moving. That's
why it's so pitiful by you that you have to whine twice here
about that Bush is "stealing oil"... ahahaha.... Poor sod, Tom.
You don't know much and you don't know what game is
being played here.... ahahaha... Instead of your whining go
and buy some oil stocks, you fool!
[Potter the pseudo repentor?]
so that he [Bush] will not be turned over to an
international court to be tried for his war crimes.
Yep! That Bush really knows the world.
Tom Potter
[hanson]
...... ahahaha... Tom-Tom, you will be turned over in Gitmo, long
long before anybody turns him over to the Hague...ahahaha...
Sounds like you have fantasies that YOU'll be his jailer, judge
and jury?... AHAHAHA... The dreams of poor sod, Tom. BTW.
your acerbic tone against Bush seems to be ameliorated very
considerably. Did you get word from the rabbi's son now that
you do have refrained from keeping advocating the murder of
the Bush family in a blood fest and then to ***** on them, Tom?
Or did possibly the faint residue of your morality beginning to
sting you, Tom. Good, if so. And if so, then how about an apology
to the mom and her twin girls? Recant, repent and redeem
yourself Tom. Show them that you are not a lowly aberrant on
top of being a poor sod.
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS: Mehram, your song "after we're done with you" sounds
like a line out of the old movie: "The Mouse that roared".
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09 May 2005 09:32:18 AM |
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:08:31 GMT, hanson wrote:
PS: Mehram, your song "after we're done with you" sounds
like a line out of the old movie: "The Mouse that roared".
I don't remember movies by their names. I don't even
remember people by their names, including coworkers,
classmates, neighbors, even some relatives. I remember
them by their images and personalities.
"After we're done with you" means there is still some
amount of money to exact. Out of your pockets first,
and then perhaps even into Iranians'. But out of your
pockets first. We don't let Capone-style treatment of
Iranians go unanswered. If you like this reality or
not, that's not my problem.
After the 1953 matter, comes the 1964 thing to take
care (24000 Iranian demonstrators killed in half a day,
their bodies thrown into salt lake outside Tehran).
Khomeyni after all became Khomeyni that we know,
starting from that day. The soldiers who parachuted on
top of the people to machine-gun them did not speak
Persian. More savvy Iranians recognized some of their
talking as to be Hebrew. We've got lots of "Dollars" in
mind to handle that one.
Then comes the 1977 assassination of Shari'ati in
London. Boy you don't know what we have in mind for
that, to be repeated for every year of your remaining
history. You don't go around assassinate our
intellectuals without subjecting your children and
future to some degree of Hell.
And then comes the 1979 assassination of Motahhari in
Tehran for which your dear embassy staff descended to
the level of a bunch of thugs taken hostage so you
savages in Washington would behave from then on. You're
going to deal with the religious faction of Iranians on
that one. Believe me, they won't let you get around
that act easy. Neither you nor your children. This
isn't "Arab" *****. This is pure human stuff. You're
dealing with what a few millions of determined humans
want to ask for payback.
And only then comes the matter of peaceful
demonstrators in Tehran and other cities. This one all
Iranians can bet their lives on it. They _will_ resolve
that matter with you and your children.
See "hassan", even an Iranian in this day and age knows
how to coexist with the wonderful citizens of the
United States. Wait till Japs and Vietnames get their
chances. And then the Germans. They're not "Iraqis"
baby. They have their own agenda and they don't even
share it with you. Your say is entirely out of their
picture. Welcome to the world. Experience it one more
time. See and "feel" who these humans are that could
bring you and your ilk's type down _every_ time they
wanted. Find out who's the boss here.
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09 May 2005 11:35:30 AM |
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Maleki wrote:
Then comes the 1977 assassination of Shari'ati in
London. Boy you don't know what we have in mind for
that, to be repeated for every year of your remaining
history. You don't go around assassinate our
intellectuals without subjecting your children and
future to some degree of Hell.
I'm not going to argue whether or not the U.S. & it's close allies,
as governments, interfere in other nations' private business. They do.
But what's the deal always with "You've offended me, so your childrens'
chidlrens' childrens' children shall be made to suffer"?
That's complete and utter *****. No one is responsible for what
their great grand-dads did a hundred years ago. Even if you hold them
responsible, they still didn't DO-IT. If my ancestors discovered gold
in California, should I be entitled to that fortune? No. If my grandma
won the Nobel peace prize in 1937, does that make me, today, a
pacifist? No. If the Japanese Navy attacked Pearl Harbor 64 years ago,
before I was even born, are Japanese in my own age group to blame for
it? No. If President Johnson ordered increased bombing of southeast
Asia, what have I, or my offspring, or my offspring's offspring to do
with it?
-Mark Martin
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| User: "hanson" |
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09 May 2005 12:21:43 PM |
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Mehram "Maleki" <maleki401@yahoo.com> the Mouse, roared in
news:1vltvohwoz3y1$.nuvr6dd47mmf$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:08:31 GMT, hanson wrote:
Mehram, your song "after we're done with you" sounds
like a line out of the old movie: "The Mouse that roared".
[Mehram, the geriatric Alzheimer's patient, explains]
I don't remember movies by their names. I don't even
remember people by their names, including coworkers,
classmates, neighbors, even some relatives. I remember
them by their images and personalities.
[Mehram, the Mouse, roars]
"After we're done with you" means there is still some
amount of money to exact. Out of your pockets first,
and then perhaps even into Iranians'. But out of your
pockets first. We don't let Capone-style treatment of
Iranians go unanswered. If you like this reality or
not, that's not my problem.
After the 1953 matter, comes the 1964 thing to take
care (24000 Iranian demonstrators killed in half a day,
their bodies thrown into salt lake outside Tehran).
Khomeyni after all became Khomeyni that we know,
starting from that day. The soldiers who parachuted on
top of the people to machine-gun them did not speak
Persian. More savvy Iranians recognized some of their
talking as to be Hebrew. We've got lots of "Dollars" in
mind to handle that one.
Then comes the 1977 assassination of Shari'ati in
London. Boy you don't know what we have in mind for
that, to be repeated for every year of your remaining
history. You don't go around assassinate our
intellectuals without subjecting your children and
future to some degree of Hell.
And then comes the 1979 assassination of Motahhari in
Tehran for which your dear embassy staff descended to
the level of a bunch of thugs taken hostage so you
savages in Washington would behave from then on. You're
going to deal with the religious faction of Iranians on
that one. Believe me, they won't let you get around
that act easy. Neither you nor your children. This
isn't "Arab" *****. This is pure human stuff. You're
dealing with what a few millions of determined humans
want to ask for payback.
And only then comes the matter of peaceful
demonstrators in Tehran and other cities. This one all
Iranians can bet their lives on it. They _will_ resolve
that matter with you and your children.
[Mehram, the Maleklig, is still cranked... ahahaha...]
See "hassan", even an Iranian in this day and age knows
how to coexist with the wonderful citizens of the
United States. Wait till Japs and Vietnames get their
chances. And then the Germans. They're not "Iraqis"
baby. They have their own agenda and they don't even
share it with you. Your say is entirely out of their
picture. Welcome to the world. Experience it one more
time. See and "feel" who these humans are that could
bring you and your ilk's type down _every_ time they
wanted. Find out who's the boss here.
[hanson]
....... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Mehram, despite your assertion
that "This isn't 'Arab' *****"... it is!. You are crying "victim" like
your arch-foes, the Hebes, do. It is "Arab *****" that you were
extruding here and you did it in a classic, Semitic style of hatred,
like Al's or Kolker's...ahahaha...Did you solve anything, Mehram?
But, I hope that you are feeling relieved now after having roared
like a mouse that thinks she's the boss....... AHAHAHA.....
ahahaha... ahahanson
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| User: "Maleki" |
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10 May 2005 01:07:38 PM |
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On Mon, 09 May 2005 17:21:43 GMT, hanson wrote:
[hanson]
...... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Mehram, despite your assertion
that "This isn't 'Arab' *****"... it is!. You are crying "victim" like
your arch-foes, the Hebes, do. It is "Arab *****" that you were
extruding here and you did it in a classic, Semitic style of hatred,
like Al's or Kolker's...ahahaha...Did you solve anything, Mehram?
But, I hope that you are feeling relieved now after having roared
like a mouse that thinks she's the boss....... AHAHAHA.....
ahahaha... ahahanson
I placed my comment on Arabs in quotes. That means I
meant that's what _you_ think of them not me. I respect
Arabs for what they're pretty good at. And these
features are many, some of them lacking in Iranians.
I've always learnt from them. But you, what you think
about them is summarized as "that Arab *****" (read it
ey-rab).
You don't need a Maleki to get to the truth of what I
said :-) You'll just get there by yourself. It's got
nothing to do with me.
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