Science > Physics > Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
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Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand |
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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22 Nov 2004 01:11:42 PM |
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Best selling reaspassing sine in wisconsin..
""Treaspasseres will be SHOT ,,servivors will be shot twice.""
If your on anyones land in Wisconsin EXPECT to be shot at.
The wild west isnt dead ,,its alive and well in wisconsin.
A hillbilly would ask what your doing on his land first...in wisconsin
they shoot first.
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| User: "Mike Darrett" |
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25 Nov 2004 10:46:53 PM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
In other news:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/16/life.hunting.reut/
HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- Hunters soon may be able to sit at their
computers and blast away at animals on a Texas ranch via the Internet,
a prospect that has state wildlife officials up in arms.
(snip)
"First it was rocks and clubs, then we sharpened it and put it on a
stick. Then there was the bow and arrow, black powder, smokeless power
and optics," Berger said. "Maybe this is the next technological step
out there."
Underwood, 39, said he will offer animal hunting as soon as he gets a
fast Internet connection to his remote ranch that will enable hunters
to aim the rifle quickly at passing animals.
He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who
could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have
the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages."
I can see it now... someone forgetting to turn the safeties on, and
someone on the internet taking shots at the poor attendant...
Mike
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26 Nov 2004 06:13:24 AM |
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In article <d945119c.0411252046.159723d6@posting.google.com>,
(Mike Darrett) wrote:
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
In other news:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/16/life.hunting.reut/
HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- Hunters soon may be able to sit at their
computers and blast away at animals on a Texas ranch via the Internet,
a prospect that has state wildlife officials up in arms.
(snip)
"First it was rocks and clubs, then we sharpened it and put it on a
stick. Then there was the bow and arrow, black powder, smokeless power
and optics," Berger said. "Maybe this is the next technological step
out there."
Underwood, 39, said he will offer animal hunting as soon as he gets a
fast Internet connection to his remote ranch that will enable hunters
to aim the rifle quickly at passing animals.
What is he going to do? Herd them through a sluice gate?
I suppose the geese could waddle past.
He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who
could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have
the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages."
We just got through clamping down on feeding cattle animal parts.
When did somebody get the bright idea of finding animals and
calling them orphans? People need some serious reality checks.
I can see it now... someone forgetting to turn the safeties on, and
someone on the internet taking shots at the poor attendant...
That would be the hidden feature.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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26 Nov 2004 10:01:08 AM |
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In sci.physics, Mike Darrett
<mike-nospam@darrettenterprises.com>
wrote
on 25 Nov 2004 20:46:53 -0800
<d945119c.0411252046.159723d6@posting.google.com>:
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
In other news:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/16/life.hunting.reut/
HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- Hunters soon may be able to sit at their
computers and blast away at animals on a Texas ranch via the Internet,
a prospect that has state wildlife officials up in arms.
(snip)
"First it was rocks and clubs, then we sharpened it and put it on a
stick. Then there was the bow and arrow, black powder, smokeless power
and optics," Berger said. "Maybe this is the next technological step
out there."
Underwood, 39, said he will offer animal hunting as soon as he gets a
fast Internet connection to his remote ranch that will enable hunters
to aim the rifle quickly at passing animals.
He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who
could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have
the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages."
I can see it now... someone forgetting to turn the safeties on, and
someone on the internet taking shots at the poor attendant...
Mike
It's been done, although in a slightly different context.
Cf. _Octagon_, Fred Saberhagen. (The book is laughably outdated
in a number of respects, but the gist of it wouldn't be difficult
to set up, although the battery lifetime might be an issue for
the wheelchairs.)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Mike" |
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22 Nov 2004 10:59:57 AM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
Maybe the real dispute was about absolute or relative position.
Mike
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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22 Nov 2004 12:23:17 PM |
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5 drunken hunter rednecks get too stupid over thier territory . Im
quite shure Id have shot a few rednecks if I was lost in the woods and
slugs were going over my head.
Niges spicks are bad enouph ,,,dont be a china man in the woods in
redneck hell .
The dickkheeads up there SHOOT at ANYTHING and ANYONE that walks
accross thier land.
You shoot at me if Im lost ,,because Im on your land and you WILL have
a hole in your *****.
Ill bet you anything 5 rednecks shot first.
IN the same aria I had dirt hit my face from a shot because I was 50
feet in the wrong feild.
I went got my truck and went up and beat his ***** in his own yard.
How does 5 rednecks treat a lost china man ?? Intimadation threts
and violence !!
Thats all these beer soaked wet headed fucking morons know.
If Im lost and walk threw anyones woods and they take a shot at me
,,,Ill kill the fucker.
Better watch who they take a shot at .
The red necks up there are trigger happey fucking drunken moncho
motherfuckers.
They WILL shoot at you and lauph about it.
I saw a dumbass stick a gun out the window of a house and blast away in
the dark because a car broke down near his house and the poor kid had to
walk down the road.
Had he shot at me ,,,,,Id have gone in his house after his ***** and put
his head threw the deck. Michigan is like that ,,,they see an out of
state plate they throw rocks.
Let the china man go free and pin a mettel on him.
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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22 Nov 2004 06:51:28 PM |
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
That's the way the story is being billed: "dispute". But it sounds to
me more like the work of a single psycho. He may have been on private
property, he may have been asked to leave, he may or may not have been
asked nicely: then he not only started shooting, he tracked down
people fleeing him and killed them. It's not even clear if the 8
casualities were all "hunters", because initial reports only put one
weapon between the 8 of them. It's not as if it were a Hatfield's and
McCoy's thing, where two groups opened fire on one another.
OTOH, I was unfamiliar with the concept of "dear stand": a platform in
the woods from which one may comfortably shoot dear. This sounds
about as sporting as shooting buffalo from moving trains, or wolves
from helicopters.
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| User: "TC" |
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24 Nov 2004 03:42:42 AM |
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(Edward Green) wrote in message news:<eca320d0.0411221651.8f028a5@posting.google.com>...
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
That's the way the story is being billed: "dispute". But it sounds to
me more like the work of a single psycho. He may have been on private
property, he may have been asked to leave, he may or may not have been
asked nicely: then he not only started shooting, he tracked down
people fleeing him and killed them.
Redneck version!!! Where the ***** did you get this version from? He
was shot at and returned fire... Probably not all 8 fired at him but
what do you want him to do. Run to the group of 8 and politely ask
the one that didn't shoot him to stand aside so he can shoot at the
one that shot him? What an idiot!
It's not even clear if the 8
casualities were all "hunters", because initial reports only put one
weapon between the 8 of them. It's not as if it were a Hatfield's and
McCoy's thing, where two groups opened fire on one another.
OTOH, I was unfamiliar with the concept of "dear stand": a platform in
the woods from which one may comfortably shoot dear. This sounds
about as sporting as shooting buffalo from moving trains, or wolves
from helicopters.
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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24 Nov 2004 04:57:15 PM |
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(TC) wrote in message news:<2294085c.0411240142.1a65d368@posting.google.com>...
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote in message news:<eca320d0.0411221651.8f028a5@posting.google.com>...
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
That's the way the story is being billed: "dispute". But it sounds to
me more like the work of a single psycho. He may have been on private
property, he may have been asked to leave, he may or may not have been
asked nicely: then he not only started shooting, he tracked down
people fleeing him and killed them.
Redneck version!!! Where the ***** did you get this version from?
From the breaking news. Later, he was telling your version of the
story, and the two survivors were telling the first version of the
story.
He
was shot at and returned fire... Probably not all 8 fired at him but
what do you want him to do. Run to the group of 8 and politely ask
the one that didn't shoot him to stand aside so he can shoot at the
one that shot him? What an idiot!
Whatever the provocation, he definitely went ballistic -- by his own
testimony he shot at least one fleeing person yelling "help me!" in
the back, and another wounded person. Now, if they had indeed been
using racial epithets and then took a shot at him, this reaction would
be understandable, though possibly somewhere above the minimum force
needed for self-defense. Or maybe it was the minimum necessary to
survive, from his point of view, since if the group was hostile, armed
and numerous, a measured response would have likely resulted in the
survivors tracking and shooting him. So he took the initiative -- in
another context, he'd be Sergeant York.
Overall, he seems to have been a superb fighter and tactician, and the
shame is that we cannot simply skip the trial and instead export him
to Fallujah, where he may apply his skills more to the national good.
The highlights of the trial are broadcast in the opening credits, and
there is little need to watch the rest of the movie. We will learn
about the plight of southeast Asians dislocated in the aftermath of
Vietnam and transplanted to middle America; we will review the story
of the Vietnamese kid who knocked on the front door of a house and was
shot dead; we will learn of the probable effect of this story on the
killer's pysche, and how he vowed never again... and etc.
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
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| User: "" |
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25 Nov 2004 07:26:39 AM |
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In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
(Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese? Where were the other hunters from?
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Richard Henry" |
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25 Nov 2004 12:31:55 PM |
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<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message news:O4udndBPwMQxeDjcRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese?
Hmong (Cambodian).
Where were the other hunters from?
Wisconsin locals, for the most part.
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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25 Nov 2004 09:16:34 PM |
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"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote in message news:<wyppd.91808$SW3.78993@fed1read01>...
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message news:O4udndBPwMQxeDjcRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese?
Hmong (Cambodian).
The story I read said Laotian, and nothing about Hmong.
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| User: "Bob Cain" |
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25 Nov 2004 11:29:01 PM |
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Edward Green wrote:
The story I read said Laotian, and nothing about Hmong.
Definitely Hmong.
Bob
--
"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein
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| User: "" |
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26 Nov 2004 06:07:31 AM |
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In article <wyppd.91808$SW3.78993@fed1read01>,
"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote:
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:O4udndBPwMQxeDjcRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese?
Hmong (Cambodian).
Where were the other hunters from?
Wisconsin locals, for the most part.
IF Wisconsin has similar attitudes that Michigan has,
then I could very well believe that the locals took
a pot shot.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Richard Henry" |
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26 Nov 2004 08:33:58 AM |
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<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message news:4LmdnUnyoscyuTrcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
In article <wyppd.91808$SW3.78993@fed1read01>,
"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote:
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:O4udndBPwMQxeDjcRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese?
Hmong (Cambodian).
Where were the other hunters from?
Wisconsin locals, for the most part.
IF Wisconsin has similar attitudes that Michigan has,
then I could very well believe that the locals took
a pot shot.
I grew up in small town in Vermont and New Hampshire. It was not unusual to
see teen-age boys (and some girls, too) walking doen the street in hunting
red/orange (no camo clothes then) with rifles and shotguns in hand, heading
for the woods at any time of year, but especially during deer season. Mnay
families had primitive deer camps out in the woods, that were only occupied
a few weeks in the year. Our family would go to my grandmother's farm
house, out in the wilds of Fayston, Vt. A good view of the hunting life is
in the book _Deer Camp_, by John M. Miller, currently available from Amazon
for about $20.
One thing I don't understand from the news reports. Only one of the victims
was armed. It appears that there was a cellphone call early during the
confrontation, and the new people showed up from a hunting camp with no
weapons.
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| User: "" |
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27 Nov 2004 05:44:10 AM |
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In article <r9Hpd.95098$SW3.80540@fed1read01>,
"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote:
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4LmdnUnyoscyuTrcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
In article <wyppd.91808$SW3.78993@fed1read01>,
"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote:
<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:O4udndBPwMQxeDjcRVn-2Q@rcn.net...
In article <eca320d0.0411241457.34141f87@posting.google.com>,
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
<snip>
What we will never learn though is who shot first.
Is he Vietnamese?
Hmong (Cambodian).
Where were the other hunters from?
Wisconsin locals, for the most part.
IF Wisconsin has similar attitudes that Michigan has,
then I could very well believe that the locals took
a pot shot.
I grew up in small town in Vermont and New Hampshire. It was not unusual
to
see teen-age boys (and some girls, too) walking doen the street in hunting
red/orange (no camo clothes then) with rifles and shotguns in hand,
heading
for the woods at any time of year, but especially during deer season.
Yup. When Dad was a kid, he'ld get sent to the river or lake
whenever his Dad had a hankering for fish. My brothers buy
very little meat from the stores because they eat venison for
their protein.
..Mnay
families had primitive deer camps out in the woods, that were only
occupied
a few weeks in the year. Our family would go to my grandmother's farm
house, out in the wilds of Fayston, Vt. A good view of the hunting life
is
in the book _Deer Camp_, by John M. Miller, currently available from
Amazon
for about $20.
One thing I don't understand from the news reports. Only one of the
victims
was armed. It appears that there was a cellphone call early during the
confrontation, and the new people showed up from a hunting camp with no
weapons.
Then they weren't out there to hunt...deer.
/BAH
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| User: "" |
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24 Nov 2004 06:21:55 AM |
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In article <2294085c.0411240142.1a65d368@posting.google.com>,
(TC) wrote:
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote in message
news:<eca320d0.0411221651.8f028a5@posting.google.com>...
Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:<gqgod.68687$V41.24671@attbi_s52>...
Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2912533
That's the way the story is being billed: "dispute". But it sounds to
me more like the work of a single psycho. He may have been on private
property, he may have been asked to leave, he may or may not have been
asked nicely: then he not only started shooting, he tracked down
people fleeing him and killed them.
Redneck version!!! Where the ***** did you get this version from? He
was shot at and returned fire... Probably not all 8 fired at him but
what do you want him to do. Run to the group of 8 and politely ask
the one that didn't shoot him to stand aside so he can shoot at the
one that shot him? What an idiot!
Yup. The obvious question is: were those 8 city slickers who had never
had their game shoot back?
<snip>
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Ken Muldrew" |
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| Title: Re: Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand |
23 Nov 2004 01:22:00 PM |
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(Edward Green) wrote:
OTOH, I was unfamiliar with the concept of "dear stand": a platform in
the woods from which one may comfortably shoot dear. This sounds
about as sporting as shooting buffalo from moving trains, or wolves
from helicopters.
Around here there is a surplus of cattle due to the closing of the US
border to traffic in live cows. A local rancher, looking for a way to
dispose of his herd without losing everything, advertised for hunters
to come and shoot a cow for $500. No takers. Evidently they demand
some "sport" from their hunt, even if it's toward the minimalist end.
Ken Muldrew
kmuldrezw@ucalgazry.ca
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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23 Nov 2004 05:55:14 PM |
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(Ken Muldrew) wrote in message news:<41a38cf3.421312330@news.ucalgary.ca>...
spamspamspam3@netzero.com (Edward Green) wrote:
OTOH, I was unfamiliar with the concept of "dear stand": a platform in
the woods from which one may comfortably shoot dear. This sounds
about as sporting as shooting buffalo from moving trains, or wolves
from helicopters.
Around here there is a surplus of cattle due to the closing of the US
border to traffic in live cows. A local rancher, looking for a way to
dispose of his herd without losing everything, advertised for hunters
to come and shoot a cow for $500. No takers. Evidently they demand
some "sport" from their hunt, even if it's toward the minimalist end.
I think something could be made of that. There are several directions
you could go. People spend that much to pepper junk cars with machine
guns, so maybe the fire power just isn't great enough. $500 to take
out a cow with an RPG -- now we're talking. Hamburger everywhere!
Myself, I don't hunt deer, but I do hunt flies. I use a well balanced
ought three plastic swatter (i.e. 3 for a dollar) which can be flicked
through the air with a sound like an epee. The kill rate is about 9
for 10 on the walls, 1 for 20+ swipes on the wing. But ah... just
make contact, and the tic of fly hitting plastic is followed by a very
un-fly like line drive! Got you, sucka.
As for deer, the only one I ever saw in close encounter was on the
grounds of a nearby Indian Reservation Casino. I may have been more
startled. It was very dark (the way it gets in places without street
lights), and walking back to my outbuilding lodging, I found myself
15-20 ft. from an animal which looked very large and muscular to a
city slicker, just standing in the middle of the road. We stood
motionless for a few long seconds, then it bounded into the woods. No
kidding -- I know deer usually run from people, but here was a animal
which looked like about 120 lbs. of lean muscle with hooves which
could probably do a number on human flesh.
Now _that's_ something I'd like to see -- reverse deer stalking. The
deer bolts from cover and knocks the rifle away with the first kick.
Sigue fast forward to a crime scene tableau with tape and
photographers and the whole nine yards, and county cops looking under
a sheet and saying they hadn't sceen a trampling death that bad since
the winter of '98. Deer Rambo was pushed too far.
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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23 Nov 2004 08:04:57 PM |
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In article <eca320d0.0411231555.13256d15@posting.google.com>,
Edward Green <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote:
Myself, I don't hunt deer, but I do hunt flies. I use a well balanced
ought three plastic swatter (i.e. 3 for a dollar) which can be flicked
through the air with a sound like an epee. The kill rate is about 9
for 10 on the walls, 1 for 20+ swipes on the wing. But ah... just
make contact, and the tic of fly hitting plastic is followed by a very
un-fly like line drive! Got you, sucka.
I hope your walls are covered with glossy paint, and not the absorbant
matte stuff that retains part of every bug you swat on it.
As for deer, the only one I ever saw in close encounter was on the
grounds of a nearby Indian Reservation Casino. I may have been more
startled. It was very dark (the way it gets in places without street
lights), and walking back to my outbuilding lodging, I found myself
15-20 ft. from an animal which looked very large and muscular to a
city slicker, just standing in the middle of the road. We stood
motionless for a few long seconds, then it bounded into the woods. No
kidding -- I know deer usually run from people, but here was a animal
which looked like about 120 lbs. of lean muscle with hooves which
could probably do a number on human flesh.
Now _that's_ something I'd like to see -- reverse deer stalking. The
deer bolts from cover and knocks the rifle away with the first kick.
Sigue fast forward to a crime scene tableau with tape and
photographers and the whole nine yards, and county cops looking under
a sheet and saying they hadn't sceen a trampling death that bad since
the winter of '98. Deer Rambo was pushed too far.
Deer have pointy hooves, like spears, and have been known to stab people.
--
"Experiments are the only means of knowledge at our disposal. The rest is
poetry, imagination." -- Max Planck
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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24 Nov 2004 04:14:41 PM |
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(Gregory L. Hansen) wrote in message news:<co0q89$al8$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>...
I hope your walls are covered with glossy paint, and not the absorbant
matte stuff that retains part of every bug you swat on it.
I suppose "But the're not my walls" would be an answer indicating
inconsideration on my part?
Deer have pointy hooves, like spears, and have been known to stab people.
Well I'll be. I was going to include the epithet "pointy hooved" in
my account of the deer, but struck it, since I had no idea how I knew
or thought I knew its hooves were pointy. I must have heard this one
before.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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23 Nov 2004 10:09:21 PM |
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A dear might l lay down and hide till you go by.
I can walk past a big dog without waking it up.
Match its hart beet with my steps.
Eagles landed on te tower and screamed at me. it sounded like
screaming.
we have some crabs on deck . evryones off the ship but me. I have
uscg people comming for a tour because I got to go tour thiers.
evryone ate in town ,,I ate on that tender.
it looks like we wount go up golden river till after TG .
Green ,,,,Golden river flows threw juneau.
Large gold deposits . an idiot with a detector could stick it down 15
feet in the river and go nuts pulling nugets .
Just look for a drop and slow water .
Gold vanes dont erode but stone does.
back up the river where the sides are strate down the gold vanes are
left sticking out the rock sides.
But then theres 4 tons in an old ship in a conecting river the water
dont flow in .
Taos the tungass giant ( me ) walked the aria for 10 years when
growing up.
here in the japonski channel there are 1000 sunken ships. Most are
scooners that came befor 1900 . Most have gold on them.
I want the coin molds off one sunken ship.
When the sky is clear enouph Im flying up to see it from air . If its
as good as when I saw it 35 years ago I might yank 4 tons of gold and
the molds out of it .
I dont nead the gold ,,I got a hill of it off the amazon deep sea .
Its tooo much to cash in.
I want the gold coin mold machine built in 1730. " its a hydrolic
press "
Allso ,,theres a old mine that closed around 1920 and I want the
trucks they left .
They parked them in the mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are all usa built and none are fords.
They were floated up river on barges .
When the mine closed they just left evrything.
Any idia what each one will be worth ?
vacation ,,,I look for junk.
a billionaire and Im looking for junk.
next month we go to southpac and soak up sun. Then were going back to
hong kong.
thialand then brazil.
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| User: "" |
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24 Nov 2004 06:16:35 AM |
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In article <co0q89$al8$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>,
(Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:
In article <eca320d0.0411231555.13256d15@posting.google.com>,
Edward Green <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote:
<snip>
Now _that's_ something I'd like to see -- reverse deer stalking. The
deer bolts from cover and knocks the rifle away with the first kick.
Sigue fast forward to a crime scene tableau with tape and
photographers and the whole nine yards, and county cops looking under
a sheet and saying they hadn't sceen a trampling death that bad since
the winter of '98. Deer Rambo was pushed too far.
Deer have pointy hooves, like spears, and have been known to stab people.
Yup. If you hit a deer on the road, the very first action is to
get the hell out of the car. Thrashing hooves will kill you.
One of Dad's hunting friends got gored in the gut by a deer that
he hadn't completely killed. Big mess.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "Edward Green" |
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24 Nov 2004 04:19:48 PM |
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wrote in message news:<QIqdnYL7HMMrHjncRVn-2Q@rcn.net>...
In article <co0q89$al8$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>,
glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:
In article <eca320d0.0411231555.13256d15@posting.google.com>,
Edward Green <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote:
<snip>
Now _that's_ something I'd like to see -- reverse deer stalking. The
deer bolts from cover and knocks the rifle away with the first kick.
Sigue fast forward to a crime scene tableau with tape and
photographers and the whole nine yards, and county cops looking under
a sheet and saying they hadn't sceen a trampling death that bad since
the winter of '98. Deer Rambo was pushed too far.
Deer have pointy hooves, like spears, and have been known to stab people.
Yup. If you hit a deer on the road, the very first action is to
get the hell out of the car. Thrashing hooves will kill you.
I suppose you mean in case the deer is through the windshield.
Otherwise, the deer, presumably being outside the car somewhere, would
seem to be best avoided by staying the hell in the car?
One of Dad's hunting friends got gored in the gut by a deer that
he hadn't completely killed. Big mess.
It seems my instinctive respect for the animal I saw wasn't entirely a
city slickers baseless fear -- it had some basis. It sounds like a
healthy deer prefers flight to fight, but a cornered or injured deer
has some means of fight available to it.
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| User: "Ken Muldrew" |
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24 Nov 2004 04:40:17 PM |
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(Edward Green) wrote:
It seems my instinctive respect for the animal I saw wasn't entirely a
city slickers baseless fear -- it had some basis. It sounds like a
healthy deer prefers flight to fight, but a cornered or injured deer
has some means of fight available to it.
I don't think I've ever heard a first-hand account of a deer standing
its ground to a human. Elk, on the other hand, will let you get right
up close and then kick the ***** out of you. They never did that when I
was a kid but they've grown ornery of late. Perhaps because people
refuse to feed them chips and chocolate bars now. Moose, you really
don't want to get close enough to feel the hooves up your *****.
Ken Muldrew
kmuldrezw@ucalgazry.ca
(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Stupid Hunters: 5 killed, 3 injured in dispute over deer stand |
24 Nov 2004 04:27:11 PM |
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I hate to Horn in on yer yackin but like they say ""the buck stops here
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eh eh
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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24 Nov 2004 07:53:33 PM |
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In article <2315-41A50ABF-797@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net>,
tj Frazir <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote:
I hate to Horn in on yer yackin but like they say ""the buck stops here
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eh eh
Deer tj, that was awful. I'm high-tailing it out of here.
--
"Is that plutonium on your gums?"
"Shut up and kiss me!"
-- Marge and Homer Simpson
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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25 Nov 2004 12:40:59 AM |
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load 5 compleat. 4 tons of platinum.
128 million bucks ,,,OHH deer .
Nothing runs like a deer.
I herd the game warden cited him for 5 over the limit ad 8 out of
season.
The sine on the cabin says ..
treaspassers will be shot .
servivors will be shot twice.
two weeks of rr ,,in aslaska.
then the south pac.
then to hong kong.
year done ,,5 loads over 500 million bucks.
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| User: "" |
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25 Nov 2004 07:20:49 AM |
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In article <eca320d0.0411241419.56653488@posting.google.com>,
(Edward Green) wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message
news:<QIqdnYL7HMMrHjncRVn-2Q@rcn.net>...
In article <co0q89$al8$1@hood.uits.indiana.edu>,
glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:
In article <eca320d0.0411231555.13256d15@posting.google.com>,
Edward Green < > wrote:
<snip>
Now _that's_ something I'd like to see -- reverse deer stalking. The
deer bolts from cover and knocks the rifle away with the first kick.
Sigue fast forward to a crime scene tableau with tape and
photographers and the whole nine yards, and county cops looking under
a sheet and saying they hadn't sceen a trampling death that bad since
the winter of '98. Deer Rambo was pushed too far.
Deer have pointy hooves, like spears, and have been known to stab
people.
Yup. If you hit a deer on the road, the very first action is to
get the hell out of the car. Thrashing hooves will kill you.
I suppose you mean in case the deer is through the windshield.
The ones I heard about ended up through the roof of the car.
Otherwise, the deer, presumably being outside the car somewhere, would
seem to be best avoided by staying the hell in the car?
Yep. Whatever keeps you away :-). There is usually a second deer.
Getting out to look or help the poor critter is not recommended.
Aha! Physics idea. Would you be hitting the deer from the
front? I'd always presumed that it was the deer hitting the
car. This implies that it tries to jump over the car when
the vehicle becomes a momentary fence. That would explain how
all the stories I heard had the deer trapped through the roof.
One of Dad's hunting friends got gored in the gut by a deer that
he hadn't completely killed. Big mess.
It seems my instinctive respect for the animal I saw wasn't entirely a
city slickers baseless fear -- it had some basis.
Definitely. A city slicker would think of the critter as a Bambi.
.. It sounds like a
healthy deer prefers flight to fight, but a cornered or injured deer
has some means of fight available to it.
Heh. If he was in rut, you might have been viewed as a rival. Don't
wear horns when you're outside.
All animals should be considered as dangerous. Sheesh! It just
occurred to me that is not a widely known fact. Even bunnie
rabbits can injure.
/BAH
/BAH
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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23 Nov 2004 10:18:17 PM |
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for sale or rent ,,or if I like the project for free.
ROV deep cost 2 mil new each 10 up for donation. 150,000 cash each or
will donate if I like your project.
max depth is the sea floor .
via global star from Deep II .
Im buying 10 new ones this new year.
50 mil. with robotics.
You drop one of these in golden river you could pay cash by noon.
xray laser , sound map.
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