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"Michael Varney" |
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08 May 2004 11:50:09 PM |
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Stupid is as stupid does |
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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14 May 2004 07:15:45 AM |
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message news:<7Minc.506$1U.61846@news.uswest.net>...
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
The activists responsible for the American Revolution were traitors
in the eyes of the British government, who "owned" the stolen land at
the time. If these activists weren't in jail, they were trespassing,
and they were shot. Get working on that time machine so you can go
back and join in the fun.
Meanwhile, life these days doesn't seem to fit your little box of a
world view. Sorry about your luck. Look at the bright side though: at
least you get to shoot your mouth off here.
Cheers,
Mitch
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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14 May 2004 08:12:17 AM |
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"mitch perkins" <mitchsperkins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:64dddc3d.0405140415.64c94af7@posting.google.com...
"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
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The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
The activists responsible for the American Revolution were traitors
in the eyes of the British government, who "owned" the stolen land at
the time.
*yawn* It takes a "special" type of person to compare PETA and Greenpeace
morons with the revolutionaries.
Humm.. Mitch Perkins.... I don't recall you but I most likely tromped you
for some reason or another. Sorry about that.
*smirk*
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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14 May 2004 02:22:33 PM |
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message news:<0B3pc.12$eg4.16296@news.uswest.net>...
"mitch perkins" <mitchsperkins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:64dddc3d.0405140415.64c94af7@posting.google.com...
"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
news:<7Minc.506$1U.61846@news.uswest.net>...
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
The activists responsible for the American Revolution were traitors
in the eyes of the British government, who "owned" the stolen land at
the time.
*yawn* It takes a "special" type of person to compare PETA and Greenpeace
morons with the revolutionaries.
Lack of sleep has been shown to reduce intelligence. Maybe you
should take a nap. Anyone who defies existing authority to make the
world (what they see as) a better place is an activist. The particular
goal is irrelevant to the definition. Some scientist you are!
Humm.. Mitch Perkins.... I don't recall you but I most likely tromped you
for some reason or another. Sorry about that.
*smirk*
We've had no beef. Interesting that you assume anyone who challenges
your redneck outlook is responding to an un-related past slight as
opposed to simply challenging your redneck outlook. Are you
projecting?
As you know, this is an international forum. I'm simply providing an
alternative outlook to yours for future readers, nothing personal. You
had one chance to debate it intelligently and you blew it. Sorry about
your luck.
Mitch
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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| Title: Re: Stupid is as stupid does |
14 May 2004 06:10:39 PM |
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"mitch perkins" <mitchsperkins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
news:<0B3pc.12$eg4.16296@news.uswest.net>...
"mitch perkins" <mitchsperkins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message
news:<7Minc.506$1U.61846@news.uswest.net>...
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
The activists responsible for the American Revolution were traitors
in the eyes of the British government, who "owned" the stolen land at
the time.
*yawn* It takes a "special" type of person to compare PETA and
Greenpeace
morons with the revolutionaries.
Lack of sleep has been shown to reduce intelligence. Maybe you
should take a nap. Anyone who defies existing authority to make the
world (what they see as) a better place is an activist. The particular
goal is irrelevant to the definition. Some scientist you are!
It is irrelevant to their self proclaimed world view. In my opinion, Muslim
extremists are terrorists and scum, not activists. PETA are idiots, nor
activists.
Humm.. Mitch Perkins.... I don't recall you but I most likely tromped
you
for some reason or another. Sorry about that.
*smirk*
We've had no beef. Interesting that you assume anyone who challenges
your redneck
Redneck.... LOL... cute.
outlook is responding to an un-related past slight as
opposed to simply challenging your redneck outlook.
Well, there are so many intellectual inferiors like yourself attempting to
cause trouble and argue semantics, I do have trouble keeping track of the
various "reasons".
Are you
projecting?
Can you come up with anything origional to say?
As you know, this is an international forum.
Idiots like you are not confined to one contry... your point?
I'm simply providing an
alternative outlook to yours for future readers
Don't be a *****. You are providing your opinion... have the balls to call
it such.
, nothing personal.
Really? Peopel use that excuse all the time, especcially when they do not
have the balls to admit to themselves that it might just be. You sure spent
quite enough time coming up with your arguments and invectives for somthing
that you proclaim is "nothing personal".
You
had one chance to debate it intelligently and you blew it.
See. Sounds personal to me.
Sorry about
your luck.
Your problem is that you think intelligent debate consists of luck. *smirk*
Go play with Vajk.
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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16 May 2004 10:50:16 AM |
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"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message news:<Wlcpc.236$eg4.62376@news.uswest.net>...
PETA are idiots, nor activists.
I do have trouble
origional
contry...
Peopel
especcially
somthing
*smirk*
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| User: "BllFs6" |
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14 May 2004 02:34:11 PM |
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As you know, this is an international forum. I'm simply providing an
alternative outlook to yours for future readers, nothing personal. You
had one chance to debate it intelligently and you blew it. Sorry about
yet you are calling him a "redneck"......
lmao.......
talk about the pot and kettle story.....
Bllll
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| User: "Bill Vajk" |
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14 May 2004 02:52:52 PM |
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BllFs6 wrote:
As you know, this is an international forum. I'm simply providing an
alternative outlook to yours for future readers, nothing personal. You
had one chance to debate it intelligently and you blew it. Sorry about
yet you are calling him a "redneck"......
lmao.......
talk about the pot and kettle story.....
Facts are facts, aren't they?
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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14 May 2004 06:11:37 PM |
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"Bill Vajk" <bill9north@hotmailDITCHTHIS.com> wrote in message
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BllFs6 wrote:
As you know, this is an international forum. I'm simply providing an
alternative outlook to yours for future readers, nothing personal. You
had one chance to debate it intelligently and you blew it. Sorry about
yet you are calling him a "redneck"......
lmao.......
talk about the pot and kettle story.....
Facts are facts, aren't they?
You mean like the fact that you are stupid?
http://users.pandora.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/WorkHarder.html
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| User: "BllFs6" |
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14 May 2004 02:55:22 PM |
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"redneck"......
lmao.......
talk about the pot and kettle story.....
Facts are facts, aren't they?
If your a small penised ***** and he's a redneck then I guess "facts are
facts"
Blll
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| User: "Bill Vajk" |
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14 May 2004 11:02:38 AM |
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mitch perkins wrote:
"Michael Varney" <varney@colorado_no_spam.edu> wrote in message news:<7Minc.506$1U.61846@news.uswest.net>...
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
The activists responsible for the American Revolution were traitors
in the eyes of the British government, who "owned" the stolen land at
the time. If these activists weren't in jail, they were trespassing,
and they were shot. Get working on that time machine so you can go
back and join in the fun.
Meanwhile, life these days doesn't seem to fit your little box of a
world view. Sorry about your luck. Look at the bright side though: at
least you get to shoot your mouth off here.
Ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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09 May 2004 03:46:22 PM |
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Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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| User: "Ed Keane III" |
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10 May 2004 09:29:50 AM |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Activists contain saturated fat.
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| User: "Paul Cardinale" |
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11 May 2004 01:38:22 PM |
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Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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12 May 2004 12:59:23 AM |
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(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405111038.288c951@posting.google.com>...
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
What number of interfering people would yield the most natural selection?
Mitch
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| User: "Paul Cardinale" |
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13 May 2004 08:38:53 AM |
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(mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405112159.6619b109@posting.google.com>...
pcardinale@volcanomail.com (Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405111038.288c951@posting.google.com>...
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
What number of interfering people would yield the most natural selection?
Well, gee whiz, this is a hard problem: If too many X are interfering
with Y, then what number of X maximizes Y?
Zero.
Paul Cardinale
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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14 May 2004 06:56:57 AM |
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(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405130538.22ad2451@posting.google.com>...
mitchsperkins@yahoo.com (mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405112159.6619b109@posting.google.com>...
(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405111038.288c951@posting.google.com>...
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
What number of interfering people would yield the most natural selection?
Well, gee whiz, this is a hard problem: If too many X are interfering
with Y, then what number of X maximizes Y?
Zero.
Paul Cardinale
So then to avoid spoiling the broth, one should employ zero cooks?
The words "too many" imply a level below which "interference" is
beneficial.
Based on your statement I'm asking you to put a number on that cap.
In your equation, does Y equal:
the *most* natural selection
OR
the most *natural* selection?
I left it open to interpretation because you seem to be making a
value judgement wrt the type of person you see as interfering, i.e.
the activists. So based on your statement I'm asking you what
particular type of selection you deem most natural.
Intuitively, genetically modifying stuff seems the opposite of
natural selection. However it could be argued that whatever happens,
including all human action, is "natural". So if activists eliminate
all genetically modified foodstuffs from the planet, that's natural
selection.
IMHO one of "our" biggest problems is regarding human life as cheap;
your collegues and you are engaging in a dialogue innapropriate for
educated adults in an international forum. Are there not enough bright
young people losing their lives for nothing these days that you might
refrain from proposing to add to the total?
Gee whiz, is that a hard problem?
Mitch
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| User: "Paul Cardinale" |
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14 May 2004 02:59:18 PM |
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(mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405140356.36ae68cc@posting.google.com>...
pcardinale@volcanomail.com (Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405130538.22ad2451@posting.google.com>...
(mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405112159.6619b109@posting.google.com>...
pcardinale@volcanomail.com (Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405111038.288c951@posting.google.com>...
Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message news:<409E989E.150A4297@hate.spam.net>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Uncle Al is a little slow here. Why are Enviro-Whiners voluntarily
physically tied to equipment in any way an impediment to its
function? The operator flips the switch, the hydraulics cut in, and
the day's work proceeds. Hose off afterward and go home.
Does an Enviro-whiner involuntarly jumping out of a plane sans
parachute float? Gaia bitchslaps the jackass on impact. Think of it
as evolution in action.
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
What number of interfering people would yield the most natural selection?
Well, gee whiz, this is a hard problem: If too many X are interfering
with Y, then what number of X maximizes Y?
Zero.
Paul Cardinale
So then to avoid spoiling the broth, one should employ zero cooks?
No. Your conclusion is nosequitorious. One should have zero people
interfering with the cook.
The words "too many" imply a level below which "interference" is
beneficial.
Yes. The number is one. One is too many.
Based on your statement I'm asking you to put a number on that cap.
In your equation, does Y equal:
the *most* natural selection
OR
the most *natural* selection?
It's unclear what you're trying to convey with the asterisks.
Do you mean to ask:
the most (natural selection)
OR
the (most natural) selection
Y refers to the former.
I left it open to interpretation because you seem to be making a
value judgement wrt the type of person you see as interfering, i.e.
the activists. So based on your statement I'm asking you what
particular type of selection you deem most natural.
Intuitively, genetically modifying stuff seems the opposite of
natural selection. However it could be argued that whatever happens,
including all human action, is "natural". So if activists eliminate
all genetically modified foodstuffs from the planet, that's natural
selection.
You seem to misunderstand some common terms. 'Natural' refers to
processes not invented by humans. 'Natural selection', is the natural
process whereby traits that increase survivability are rendered
dominant, and those that reduce survivablilty are rendered recessive
or absent.
IMHO one of "our" biggest problems is regarding human life as cheap;
your collegues and you are engaging in a dialogue innapropriate for
educated adults in an international forum.
You have a goofy concept of propriety.
Are there not enough bright
young people losing their lives for nothing these days that you might
refrain from proposing to add to the total?
Like most liberals, you degenerate into dishonesty. Your statement is
a blatant lie. I did not propose that we add to the number of bright
young people losing their lives for nothing.
What I actually propose is that we refrain from saving idiots from
their own stupidity. Such restraint is beneficial to society.
Paul Cardinale
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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15 May 2004 02:43:20 AM |
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(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405141159.22662954@posting.google.com>...
mitchsperkins@yahoo.com (mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405140356.36ae68cc@posting.google.com>...
(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405130538.22ad2451@posting.google.com>...
mitchsperkins@yahoo.com (mitch perkins) wrote in message news:<64dddc3d.0405112159.6619b109@posting.google.com>...
(Paul Cardinale) wrote in message news:<64050551.0405111038.288c951@posting.google.com>...
One of our biggest problems is that there are too many people
interfering with natural selection.
Paul Cardinale
What number of interfering people would yield the most natural selection?
Well, gee whiz, this is a hard problem: If too many X are interfering
with Y, then what number of X maximizes Y?
Zero.
Paul Cardinale
So then to avoid spoiling the broth, one should employ zero cooks?
No. Your conclusion
I'll put in *two* question marks next time.
is nosequitorious.
I have little or no reason to quit my nose in *any* fashion. ($25
typos are fair game - my new rule.)
One should have zero people interfering with the cook.
Head chef? Restaurant owner? What if the cook feels like cooking
something you didn't order? What if the cook just says "hey!" and goes
bowling?
The words "too many" imply a level below which "interference" is
beneficial.
Yes. The number is one. One is too many.
And so finally we arrive. If one is too many then *any* is too many
and so:
"One of our biggest problems is people interfering with natural
selection."
Boioioioioioing!
Based on your statement I'm asking you to put a number on that cap.
In your equation, does Y equal:
the *most* natural selection
OR
the most *natural* selection?
It's unclear what you're trying to convey with the asterisks.
Do you mean to ask:
the most (natural selection)
OR
the (most natural) selection
Y refers to the former.
Parentheses in keeping with the expression of an idea in the form of
a physics equation. Duly noted. Thank you.
I left it open to interpretation because you seem to be making a
value judgement wrt the type of person you see as interfering, i.e.
the activists. So based on your statement I'm asking you what
particular type of selection you deem most natural.
Intuitively, genetically modifying stuff seems the opposite of
natural selection. However it could be argued that whatever happens,
including all human action, is "natural". So if activists eliminate
all genetically modified foodstuffs from the planet, that's natural
selection.
You seem to misunderstand some common terms. 'Natural' refers to
processes not invented by humans. 'Natural selection', is the natural
process whereby traits that increase survivability are rendered
dominant, and those that reduce survivablilty are rendered recessive
or absent.
I seem to misunderstand lots of stuff. Everybody does. Natural is a
sticky word though. If you look it up in the dictionary, and you're
satisfied, that's nice. Mine says: "1) Existing in or caused by
nature; not artificial." That's me! ( "...natural philosopher
[archaic] a physicist"). What's the difference between a beaver's dam
and the Brooklyn Bridge? Do you think there are any human traits that
reduce survivability which have become dominant?
IMHO one of "our" biggest problems is regarding human life as cheap;
your collegues and you are engaging in a dialogue innapropriate for
educated adults in an international forum.
You have a goofy concept of propriety.
Go to the OP. Hit the link. Look at that girl all happy about doin'
something she thinks is just *great*. Uh-oh! Maybe it's a dumb thing!
Maybe not. Does she remind you of your daughter? Somebody else's?
Wanna talk to her and maybe straighten her out, or miracle of
miracles, find out something you didn't know? Nah, just fire off a
coupla rounds. Simple as that. You are, that is. Did Feynman talk
about shooting people? You're supposed to be *smart*. That means you
*think*. Maybe there are some impressionable young people who have a
budding interest in physics here. They might not grok on to the
scared-old-white-man-in-a-changing-world-he-has-no-control-over need
to appear extra macho. All they see is a bunch of scientists talking
about shooting a woman who's exercising her right to free speech.
Meanwhile they just learned that freedom of speech is what the whole
thing's about! Chortle over murder in private.
Are there not enough bright
young people losing their lives for nothing these days that you might
refrain from proposing to add to the total?
Like most liberals,
Whoa, there mister! Liberal is an amount of mayonnaise. There's
people who care about others and people who care about themselves. The
rest is to take our minds off the fact we don't have a clue.
you degenerate into dishonesty. Your statement is
a blatant lie.
Why, I never!
I did not propose that we add to the number of bright
young people losing their lives for nothing.
Glad to see we agree that the number is real.
What I actually propose is that we refrain from saving idiots from
their own stupidity.
Drunk-driving now legal!
Such restraint is beneficial to society.
Why, thank you, your royal highness. I now see that with
callousness, all social problems become simple and then vanish,
leaving only a faintly rose-coloured mist. And thanks for the help
with the dimmer awhile back, too.
Mitch
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| User: "Tony" |
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09 May 2004 07:04:30 AM |
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Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Politics aside, hanging from the loading booms, they seem to have
wanted to be loaded into the ship. Along with 10,000 tons of
soybeans, it should not have been a problem.
Cheers,
Tony.
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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09 May 2004 03:00:14 PM |
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In sci.physics, Tony
<bjlapen@hotmail.com>
wrote
on Sun, 09 May 2004 08:04:30 -0400
<2g6l8tF52ba0U1@uni-berlin.de>:
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Politics aside, hanging from the loading booms, they seem to have
wanted to be loaded into the ship. Along with 10,000 tons of
soybeans, it should not have been a problem.
Apparently the ship (a loader) was going to take on
natural soybeans, having already in its hold 30,000 tons
of genetically altered ones. Presumably they were worried
about the contamination of the soybeans, so loading the
activists on board and burying them in soybeans would
probably be a very bad thing for the soybean crop --
not to mention the activists and political issues in general.
Color me slightly puzzled but there may not be that much of
a market for modified soy outside of the US, if the FDA
requires all products containing such be clearly labeled.
(I don't think the FDA requires that *now*, but I think
Greenpeace would like it that way.)
Cheers,
Tony.
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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| User: "Tony" |
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09 May 2004 03:50:51 PM |
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The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
In sci.physics, Tony
<bjlapen@hotmail.com>
wrote
on Sun, 09 May 2004 08:04:30 -0400
<2g6l8tF52ba0U1@uni-berlin.de>:
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Politics aside, hanging from the loading booms, they seem to have
wanted to be loaded into the ship. Along with 10,000 tons of
soybeans, it should not have been a problem.
Apparently the ship (a loader) was going to take on
natural soybeans, having already in its hold 30,000 tons
of genetically altered ones. Presumably they were worried
about the contamination of the soybeans, so loading the
activists on board and burying them in soybeans would
probably be a very bad thing for the soybean crop --
not to mention the activists and political issues in general.
An understandable fear, let us use science to investigate.
Let us assume metric tons, (not much different from the
Long Ton, 2,200 lbs. often used in shipping) and 4, 75 kg
activists volunteering for the experiment.
40,000 tons = 4,000,000 kg soybeans.
4 * 75 kg = 300 kg activists.
300/40,000,000 * (100%) = 0.00075% activist
and 99.99925% soybean. This is well above the environmental
activist benchmark of 99 44/100 % purity for a wholesome
natural product. So we see that the fear is unfounded on
analytical grounds, and produces a result which is acceptable
to all.
I can, however, understand how having an activist pop out of
a load of soybeans unexpectedly at a marketplace could have some
negative political impact. I would note that if the soybeans were
destined for processing, into oil or tofu perhaps, that concern
would be eliminated as well.
Cheers,
Tony.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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09 May 2004 11:35:30 PM |
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You could have sold the load.
$ 160 mt sold paid $ 45
$ 14 mt shipping.
no terif
$ 1.2 mil made.
for a few bucks more the girl may have gotten a spankie from the co.
Then the corn oil .
brazil trade leads
ec plaza
ec 21
worldtrade free trade leads
shipbroker.net
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| User: "Michael Varney" |
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09 May 2004 11:59:56 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:25564-409F0692-242@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net...
Idiot.
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| User: "" |
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10 May 2004 02:10:35 PM |
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Tony <bjlapen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2g6l8tF52ba0U1@uni-berlin.de>...
Michael Varney wrote:
The activists should have been shot for trespassing.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/05/08/brazil.greenpeace.ap/index.html
Politics aside, hanging from the loading booms, they seem to have
wanted to be loaded into the ship. Along with 10,000 tons of
soybeans, it should not have been a problem.
Hmmm... Soy... Soylent... Hmmm... Aha!
Soylent Green is made of people! (Well, activists.)
Socks
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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10 May 2004 10:43:39 PM |
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You should see them over a load chicken .
Go see a brazil chicken plantation.
No human ever sees the bird till its quarters.
the worlds second chicken producer.
pc automated 5 million bird houses.
greenpice idiots freek out in them.
heads come off when the cages exit like a train to the cleaning house.
Greenpice climbed my trees ,,I sent them up a bag o nuts. Cut the
trees next to them down.
Got my gun out an shot and ate the wild turkey. Told them if they waz
camping on my plantaion they must plant trees and must put up with me
camping with them .
I would bet for one joint and a plate of greens she would get off the
loader.
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