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Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface |
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Sunspots result from "ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE"
material from the Sun's core coming to the surface along
magnetic lines.
These true facts are part of the ONLY "theory of
everything" that WORKS, called the "Reciprocal System",
developed by the late Physicist Dewey B. Larson.
See http://www.rstheory.com .
Study BOTH of these two web pages:
http://library.rstheory.com/articles/KVK/SunPartI.html
http://library.rstheory.com/articles/KVK/SunPartII.html
See also
http://members.aol.com/GalactcFed/universe.txt .
Robert E. McElwaine
B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
http://members.aol.com/rem547 PLUS
http://members.aol.com/rem460
Preserve BOTH on CD-R and PRINT-OUTS
P.S.: PASS IT ON !
"EVERYTHING you know is WRONG."
"The Truth IS STRANGER than fiction."
"The Truth is ALWAYS the FIRST CASUALTY OF WAR."
"OFFICIAL LIES are ALWAYS the BIGGEST LIES OF ALL."
"The more things change, the more they STAY THE SAME."
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| User: "Laidback" |
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13 Feb 2007 09:19:50 PM |
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May the Universe give back
100 times what you give out.
<rem460@aol.com> wrote in message
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Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface |
13 Feb 2007 10:00:45 PM |
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Laidback <mendorta1@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem460@aol.com> wrote in message news:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
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| User: "The Ghost In The Machine" |
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| Title: Re: Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface |
14 Feb 2007 12:35:24 AM |
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In sci.physics, Sam Wormley
<swormley1@mchsi.com>
wrote
on Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:00:45 GMT
<NPvAh.1194736$084.182625@attbi_s22>:
Laidback <mendorta1@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem460@aol.com> wrote in message news:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
The corona is far hotter -- if far less dense -- than
either sunspots or the "normal" sun surface (which looks
rather "granular" on most pictures I've seen).
Not that McElwaine has a clue anyway; has he found either Pole Hole yet? :-)
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| User: "malibu" |
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13 Feb 2007 11:01:35 PM |
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On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g200=
0cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000=B0C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000=B0C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
John
Galaxy Model
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface |
13 Feb 2007 11:51:24 PM |
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malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
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| User: "malibu" |
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14 Feb 2007 07:09:37 AM |
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On Feb 13, 11:51 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g=
2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000=B0C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000=B0C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
Yes, Sam.
The Black Hole is the vortex that splits
the virtual particle into negative and
positive plasma by its intense rotation.
These plasmas are ejected in opposite directions
by its magnetic poles (the so-called 'pillars of
creation) at right-angles to the galactic disc.
As the disc sweeps round, the two types of plasma
co-mingle into spheroids of turbulent energy
(stars) in which the positive and negative
try frantically to rejoin. They do this by
becoming radiation and matter.
As the energy slowly bleeds away as radiation
and matter, the 'density' decreases, until it reaches a
critical point, where the star dies, by going nova
or otherwise, and one is left with the matter produced
and the radiation.
This happens constantly, and there are large amounts of
planets, moons, meteorites and dust and neutron stars
left overin the so-called dust-lanes quite visible
to us, which eventually fall back into the
*Black Hole*.
Thanks, Sam!
John
Galaxy Model for the Atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
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| User: "ma1ibu" |
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14 Feb 2007 12:43:12 PM |
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On Feb 14, 7:09 am, "malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:51 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j2=
7g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000=B0C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000=B0C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
Yes, Sam.
The Black Hole is the vortex that splits
the virtual particle into negative and
positive plasma by its intense rotation.
These plasmas are ejected in opposite directions
by its magnetic poles (the so-called 'pillars of
creation) at right-angles to the galactic disc.
As the disc sweeps round, the two types of plasma
co-mingle into spheroids of turbulent energy
(stars) in which the positive and negative
try frantically to rejoin. They do this by
becoming radiation and matter.
As the energy slowly bleeds away as radiation
and matter, the 'density' decreases, until it reaches a
critical point, where the star dies, by going nova
or otherwise, and one is left with the matter produced
and the radiation.
This happens constantly, and there are large amounts of
planets, moons, meteorites and dust and neutron stars
left overin the so-called dust-lanes quite visible
to us, which eventually fall back into the
*Black Hole*.
Thanks, Sam!
John
Galaxy Model for the Atomhttp://users.accesscomm.ca/john
oops
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
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| User: "Laidback" |
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14 Feb 2007 06:04:45 PM |
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--
May the Universe give back
100 times what you give out.
"ma1ibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1171478592.117894.242920@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 14, 7:09 am, "malibu" <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:51 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in
messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
Yes, Sam.
The Black Hole is the vortex that splits
the virtual particle into negative and
positive plasma by its intense rotation.
These plasmas are ejected in opposite directions
by its magnetic poles (the so-called 'pillars of
creation) at right-angles to the galactic disc.
As the disc sweeps round, the two types of plasma
co-mingle into spheroids of turbulent energy
(stars) in which the positive and negative
try frantically to rejoin. They do this by
becoming radiation and matter.
As the energy slowly bleeds away as radiation
and matter, the 'density' decreases, until it reaches a
critical point, where the star dies, by going nova
or otherwise, and one is left with the matter produced
and the radiation.
This happens constantly, and there are large amounts of
planets, moons, meteorites and dust and neutron stars
left overin the so-called dust-lanes quite visible
to us, which eventually fall back into the
*Black Hole*.
Thanks, Sam!
John
Galaxy Model for the Atomhttp://users.accesscomm.ca/john
oops
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john
My reasoning is as follows..
The first consideration is in what are we dealing with...
Keeping in mind all areas of our Universe is a ratio of kinetic and
Potential energy that is part of how Electromagnetic waves function, in fact
mass is at all times propagating {jiggling} the whole spectrum, this is how
each area is perceived and detected with a given Kelvin or Temperture/colour
etc, and importantly how relatively solid an area is.
Our sun is an area of Space-Time that is quite considerably compressed via
the RELATIVE ratios of kinetic and Potential energy {velocities}, so this
infers the Electromagnetic Spectrum {including part of the spectrum of
light} is already quite significantly blue shifted in the first place.. Note
that the propagation of Electromagnetic waves are much slower in solids and
because the suns area is highly compressed Time is shifted.
As the electromagnetic waves leave the suns Local Space-Time the wave
accelerates, due to Space-Time not being as compressed the further we are
away from a compressed area, this acceleration is our Blue shift..
I should point out all areas of our Universe is relatively compressed into
areas that infer High potential energy that is with a ratio of very low
kinetic energy, and these areas are OUR relative Solids, Planets, Stars,
{Galaxies with their respective cores known as Super Black Holes}, Galaxy
Clusters so on and so on - All are the result of said areas being once
highly kinetic energy or better expressed as velocities much faster than "c"
as in Dark Matter or Dark Energy {higher Kelvin temperatures} that are now
compressed via Gravity, to which I should point out is why I insist gravity
is not the result of a perception, known as attraction, but rather I see all
solid objects are the result of the whole of the universes exertions, which
is better explained via the study of RELATIVITY...
BTW I have one more statement, to which if you are familiar with relativity
should make real good sense..
Black holes are compressed Space-Time areas; the more compressed the area
the slower the time rate via more kinetic energy has been converted to more
Potential energy..
If we were in such a compressed area and peered out to areas that were not
compressed, don't you think we would see our Universe expanding in an
accelerating manner?
Think about it, and if you have time, model the dynamics to a Klein Bottle,
let me say if you hold the flawed Big bang as on the money, your notion of
the big bang may quite correctly be disbanded.
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| User: "ah" |
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15 Feb 2007 07:34:11 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
ROLF!
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| User: "malibu" |
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15 Feb 2007 08:48:31 AM |
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On Feb 15, 7:34 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27=
g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000=B0C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000=B0C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
ROLF!
rolling on a large floor?
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| User: "ah" |
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23 Feb 2007 11:22:29 PM |
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malibu wrote:
On Feb 15, 7:34 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
malibu wrote:
On Feb 13, 10:00 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
Laidback <mendor...@telpacific.com.au> wrote:
<rem...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1171329574.333497.113700@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Sunspots Much HOTTER Than Sun's Surface
Contrary to currently-accepted theory, sunspots are
actually much HOTTER than the surrounding surface of the
Sun.
The dark center ("umbra") of each sunspot is much
hotter ("ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE") than the surrounding
"penumbra", which in turn is much hotter ("INTERMEDIATE
TEMPERATURE") than the remaining surface, as evidenced
by the very bright boundary line surrounding the
penumbra.
Extremely Blue shifted?
The Sun's outer visible layer is called the photosphere and has a
measured temperature of about 6,000°C .
Sunspots are dark depressions on the photosphere with a measured
temperature of about 4,000°C .
Oh, I dunno, Samm.
I kinda like the idea of a temperature so high
that there are no atoms; just energy
whizzing around.
And the only way it gets away
from the Sun is if it
forms into linked symmetrical rotations
of one-to-one and leaves
at lightspeed as radiation, or if it falls into
linked rotations of one-to-two
and leaves with the Solar Wind as
newly-created matter.
I like simplicity.
Then you'll like black holes, John.
ROLF!
rolling on a large floor?
ridiculously odiferous Limburger fondue?
--
Vous pensez, donc oh soyez
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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14 Feb 2007 02:03:00 PM |
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Sam Cooler than the Sun surface,and that their black proves this, They
get hotter going north. but then the poles flip and its back to the
equator. I read they are 2500 F cooled than the surface Bert
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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14 Feb 2007 02:19:19 PM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Sam Cooler than the Sun surface,and that their black proves this, They
get hotter going north. but then the poles flip and its back to the
equator. I read they are 2500 F cooled than the surface Bert
Yes... that has been measured, Herb.
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