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03 Sep 2005 11:59:36 AM |
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Supplement to the paper on black holes |
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/229e7a9e62f52147/c272cc61214c60c1?lnk=st&q=Sergey+Karavashkin&rnum=1#c272cc61214c60c1
). It was almost impossible to reply each post, we found more efficient
to gather them in the supplement and to give the answers in amount. We
called it
" Some additional aspects of the analysis of black hole conception "
http://selftrans.narod.ru/v5_2/blackhole/sup1/sup01/sup1.html
Hopefully, this Supplement will serve for better understanding of our
results and of problems of black hole conception.
Best to you all,
Sergey B. Karavashkin
Head Laboratory SELF
187 apt., 38 bldg.
Prospect Gagarina
Kharkov 61140
Ukraine
Phone: +38 (057) 73706624
e-mail: ,
http://www.angelfire.com/la3/SELFlab/index.html
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04 Sep 2005 02:56:26 AM |
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None:
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
The ``reality of black holes'' is an experimental issue. The
fact that general relativity agrees with experimental data better
than any previous theory of gravity and that general relativity
allows black holes in its soutions, is sufficient reason to seek
experimental evidence for their existence.
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| User: "Warhol" |
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| Title: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
04 Sep 2005 11:21:45 AM |
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"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: slrndhld9m.bud.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
None:
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
The ``reality of black holes'' is an experimental issue. The
fact that general relativity agrees with experimental data better
than any previous theory of gravity and that general relativity
allows black holes in its soutions, is sufficient reason to seek
experimental evidence for their existence.
The reality of a black holes is that they act as an Vacuum cleaner.... in
rotten Galaxies when worlds dont respond to the creator.... The distortions
we all see... is the clean up... And can only be stopped by a very special
man..... and if somthing bad happens to him, be sure this all will never
have existed....
A WARNING FOR THE WISE... GOD IS PISSED WITH MAN.... WHO DONT WANT TO FOLLOW
HIS simple LAWS.... and Now we all are Classefied as not working
Expirement...
BECAUSE MAN DOESNOT SHOW SIGNE OF PRESENCE>>>> IF THE PRAYERS ARE NOT DONE,
WE SHALL SEE WORSE THAN WE HAVE SEEN TILL NOW....
REMENBER STAR TREK movie were they explain... when that object from Outer
Space came to check the presence of the WALES... and did recieve a response
on the signal emited by the UNKOWN POWER.... well this power is Allah....
But this time the sun of man must repond presence with the Kinsman of the 11
tribes... The only way to STOP OUR DISTRUCTION.
Produce THE VIBRATION at your sacred places were the Antenna are, to
ettablish contact..... RE-OPEN THE COMMUNICATION LOST NOW 400 YEARS.
It takes servale years that those Ritmes and Vibrations travell to the
control room of the Allmighty... and there must be 10 tribes minimun... or
it wont work....
MAN SHOULD RETURN TO PATH and FOLLOW the UNIVERSAL LAWS... GIVE SIGNE OF
LIFE TO THAT SUPRIME POWER.... OTHERWISE..... forget it.
Tribes must play the Tambour so that Vibrations and Ritmes etablish again
the Lost contact with the SUPREME BEEN...
I know this because, I have read it in my Letters, from my Over over over
over over over over over Grand Father... THE KING OF ALL TRIBES.
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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04 Sep 2005 01:18:01 PM |
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Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: slrndhld9m.bud.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
None:
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
The ``reality of black holes'' is an experimental issue. The
fact that general relativity agrees with experimental data better
than any previous theory of gravity and that general relativity
allows black holes in its soutions, is sufficient reason to seek
experimental evidence for their existence.
The reality of a black holes is that they act as an Vacuum cleaner.... in
rotten Galaxies when worlds dont respond to the creator.... The distortions
we all see... is the clean up... And can only be stopped by a very special
man..... and if somthing bad happens to him, be sure this all will never
have existed....
A WARNING FOR THE WISE... GOD IS PISSED WITH MAN.... WHO DONT WANT TO FOLLOW
HIS simple LAWS.... and Now we all are Classefied as not working
Expirement...
BECAUSE MAN DOESNOT SHOW SIGNE OF PRESENCE>>>> IF THE PRAYERS ARE NOT DONE,
WE SHALL SEE WORSE THAN WE HAVE SEEN TILL NOW....
REMENBER STAR TREK movie were they explain... when that object from Outer
Space came to check the presence of the WALES... and did recieve a response
on the signal emited by the UNKOWN POWER.... well this power is Allah....
But this time the sun of man must repond presence with the Kinsman of the 11
tribes... The only way to STOP OUR DISTRUCTION.
Produce THE VIBRATION at your sacred places were the Antenna are, to
ettablish contact..... RE-OPEN THE COMMUNICATION LOST NOW 400 YEARS.
It takes servale years that those Ritmes and Vibrations travell to the
control room of the Allmighty... and there must be 10 tribes minimun... or
it wont work....
MAN SHOULD RETURN TO PATH and FOLLOW the UNIVERSAL LAWS... GIVE SIGNE OF
LIFE TO THAT SUPRIME POWER.... OTHERWISE..... forget it.
Tribes must play the Tambour so that Vibrations and Ritmes etablish again
the Lost contact with the SUPREME BEEN...
I know this because, I have read it in my Letters, from my Over over over
over over over over over Grand Father... THE KING OF ALL TRIBES.
It's jihad time again.
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
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| User: "Dr. Flonkenstein" |
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04 Sep 2005 01:38:33 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 12:18:01 -0600, Art Deco wrote:
Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: slrndhld9m.bud.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
None:
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
The ``reality of black holes'' is an experimental issue. The
fact that general relativity agrees with experimental data better
than any previous theory of gravity and that general relativity
allows black holes in its soutions, is sufficient reason to seek
experimental evidence for their existence.
The reality of a black holes is that they act as an Vacuum cleaner.... in
rotten Galaxies when worlds dont respond to the creator.... The distortions
we all see... is the clean up... And can only be stopped by a very special
man..... and if somthing bad happens to him, be sure this all will never
have existed....
A WARNING FOR THE WISE... GOD IS PISSED WITH MAN.... WHO DONT WANT TO FOLLOW
HIS simple LAWS.... and Now we all are Classefied as not working
Expirement...
BECAUSE MAN DOESNOT SHOW SIGNE OF PRESENCE>>>> IF THE PRAYERS ARE NOT DONE,
WE SHALL SEE WORSE THAN WE HAVE SEEN TILL NOW....
REMENBER STAR TREK movie were they explain... when that object from Outer
Space came to check the presence of the WALES... and did recieve a response
on the signal emited by the UNKOWN POWER.... well this power is Allah....
But this time the sun of man must repond presence with the Kinsman of the 11
tribes... The only way to STOP OUR DISTRUCTION.
Produce THE VIBRATION at your sacred places were the Antenna are, to
ettablish contact..... RE-OPEN THE COMMUNICATION LOST NOW 400 YEARS.
It takes servale years that those Ritmes and Vibrations travell to the
control room of the Allmighty... and there must be 10 tribes minimun... or
it wont work....
MAN SHOULD RETURN TO PATH and FOLLOW the UNIVERSAL LAWS... GIVE SIGNE OF
LIFE TO THAT SUPRIME POWER.... OTHERWISE..... forget it.
Tribes must play the Tambour so that Vibrations and Ritmes etablish again
the Lost contact with the SUPREME BEEN...
I know this because, I have read it in my Letters, from my Over over over
over over over over over Grand Father... THE KING OF ALL TRIBES.
It's jihad time again.
Kill in the name of allah!
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <40376AD8.C83FBF5A@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r1lh297cequd35addb@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg5ragcpbbihn3coliv@4ax.com>
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."
in Message-MID: <k1kte1hu59khhkt4m1g42g52gkacmcokin@4ax.com>
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for fucks sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."
in Message-ID: <lhic01pc5svudk22n6rpcvovskdmpi3ir8@4ax.com>
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."
in Message-ID: <j1b5c1l2629tc6afu575d5puclm321knok@4ax.com>
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."
in Message-ID: <5g89d15kbjd3cd7i6fn9c3ke93n12dm406@4ax.com>
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."
in Message-ID: <1rfee1d5iuhq3piii8b9dtq9rtk5uatr1h@4ax.com>
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"
in Message-ID: <2mrge1phgk68ourdt2eq8thne0h7hv0sb6@4ax.com>
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"
reminder: Message-ID: <pan.2005.09.01.00.52.15.77207@localhost.localdomain>
The quote naziwhore Don Ocean stole.
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27 Sep 2005 06:24:15 AM |
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Bilge wrote:
None:
Dear Colleagues,
Recently we published and advertised here our paper " On reality of
black holes " which rose an interest and many additional questions
(see the thread with the same name
The ``reality of black holes'' is an experimental issue. The
fact that general relativity agrees with experimental data better
than any previous theory of gravity and that general relativity
allows black holes in its soutions, is sufficient reason to seek
experimental evidence for their existence.
Dear Bilge, you adhere the same style. On one hand, it is
praise-worthy... 4-) On the other, stating that BHs have been strongly
substantiated, you have to agree that according to math. modelling, it
is not a mistake to analyse the solution not in those coordinates in
which it was modelled, and to arbitrary change the domain of existence
of new coordinates. Is it really correct? In the Supplement
http://selftrans.narod.ru/v5_2/blackhole/sup1/sup01/sup01.html
we showed that in measured coordinates, r-singularity remains only in
the centre of metric, i.e. where it has to be as the statement of
problem. The event horizon out of coordinate origin appears because
Schwarzschild has violated the turn-back condition of which I wrote you
above. Besides, in the paper and in supplement we showed a number of
gross mistakes inadmissible in developing a theory. Have you any claims
to our analysis? I would like to hear. If you have not, all your words
of experimental non-obviousness hang in the air without arguments. The
more that both in paper and in supplement we have analysed some
so-called discoveries of BHs - and they all appeared exaggerated.
Have you any claims to our analysis? I would like to hear. ;-)
Sergey
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27 Sep 2005 06:41:34 AM |
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To nightbat:
nightbat 6 Sept 16:13
Newsgroups: alt.astronomy
From: nightbat <night...@home.ffni.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:13:28 -0500
Local time: Tue 6 Sept 2005 16:13
Subject:Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes
nightbat wrote
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi nightbat Let me paint a scenario(just an imaginary view) If a black
comet was revolving around a black hole how would you describe their
different features. Please leave out nothing that would tell me which is
which. Bert
nightbat
Good morning and you're so funny Officer Bert, a black hole is
a
non real world possibility I have advised so many times. Fantasy games
are for sci fi folks of which I am not one of them. I have tried
helping
you to dart be on target with your spin is in theory but you do love
imaginary stuff and your book friends that produce it. A " Black Comet
"
per my theory does not revolve around anything for it attracts
everything locally near or around it. The particular galactic
gravitational tug and pull of gravitational bodies goes on with the
center " Black Comet " once formed mostly winning as it gets central
galaxy condensed altered matter energy stronger and stronger. The 3/1
ratio you posted a while back is close. It is 4/1 being the strong,
weak, electromagnetic, and time versus gravity effect. Once the Chandra
upper mass collapsing central body achieves a now 3/2 ratio the " Black
Comet " theoretically is formed and starts to strong gravity field
accredit. Always remember it is centrally gravitational bound until it
reaches further increasing critical ratio condensed strong force and
gravity energy factor.
Dear Nightbat, I just wanted to ask you to give me a brief idea of your
theory, but this post quite clears your meaning. The point is, in the
phenomenology in which you are trying to formulate your Black Komet
conception, just as in Einstein's GR, there is a gross defect. You
are saying exceptionally of gravitation conditions of bodies formation,
but physics is not limited to gravity. Physics includes also
mechanical, electrical, thermal interaction. All these factors, with
all wish of relativists, cannot be taken into account by geometrisation
of gravity field, especially basing on 4-D interval whose invariance in
nonlinear spaces is highly doubtful.
If, when considering the conditions of your BK formation, you from the
very beginning try at least phenomenologically to account the factors
counteracting the unlimited gravity compression of substance, and if
you account that inside the substance (be it solid, liquid, gaseous or
dusty body) gravity force in the centre of body is zero, you will see
how the conditions of modelling of your BK will evaporate. For BH, we
showed it in our paper.
Thus, the conditions for unlimited compression are absent, and
conditions of unlimited growth of mass of gravitating body are absent.
As we showed in our work
http://selftrans.narod.ru/v3_1/contents3.html#c2a
as the body is compressed and heated, and especially as first
thermonuclear reactions begin, the substance intensively gets away its
electrons by way of thermoelectron emission. This is a well-studied
fact, even under terrestrial conditions, even the fire of usual gas
ring in your kitchen is not electrically neutral. This is used in the
devices for fire control. In a star, the charge of central body is
quite large, it forms the electron circulation shell (see Fig. 2.16 of
the reference) and so isolates the body from its environment, creates
the angular momentum of the body and provides the star structure
formation in that appearance which we see. This all has been described
in our chapter. If you take these factors into account, the limit of
possible star mass will diminish to several masses of Sun. Such mass is
basically unable to form any BH, BK, quasars or else black features,
nothing to say of some neutrino crystals.
That is the matter, dear Nightbat. I would only add, this undoubtedly
is your right to proceed from your personal considerations and to stay
at your limited position. But the factors to which I am drawing your
attention are reality that you must not ignore in modelling. If you
account them, your solution will be another. I would be really happy if
you understood these nuances.
Kind regards,
Sergey
This is achieved via dampening inter stellar
particular plasma sharing which prevents the neutron star at end
sequence critical 4/1 ratio detonation point from going upper mass
limit
Super Nova. The entire base field counter effect however is always
there
Officer Bert and no single condensed stellar body can win over the
entire field. But locally to itself, the " Black Comet " attempts to
condensing field renormalize and in the process tail inversely attempts
gathers all within. The entire expanding space field always wins out
with the end result a new reformed galaxy is born.
There are no black holes Officer Bert, the enigma was perplexing but now
solved via the nightbat " Black Comet " extremely very deep physics
theoretical model solution. I have not received your Earth Science Team
Officer shirt requisition yet. Officer Double-A should be getting his
this week. Science Team Officer recommended and President FEMA ordered
cruise ships arriving to ferry some of the Katrina survivors to safety.
ponder on,
the nightbat
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27 Sep 2005 06:47:20 AM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier 5 Sept 20:33
Newsgroups: alt.astronomy
From: (G=EMC^2 Glazier)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:33:07 -0400
Local time: Mon, 5 Sept 2005 20:33
Subject: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes
Interesting thought is this. All things create a wave moving through
space. Like a ship moving through water.
Here, Bert, you are considerably contradicting SR. ;-)
To oc,and Painius my answer to
what is waving.? "Its the space field" Best to always keep in mind
gentelmen that quantum fields fill all of space. That also means they
are associated with quantum particles. Good example is,the charge of an
electron creates an electrical "field" that surrounds it.
Dear Bert, you are here in your full right to see nothing, to hear
nothing of things inconvenient for you. But before you represent waves
and force fields to be quantified, it would be not bad to agree the
very concept of quantum with physics. I multiply wrote of it and you
know much of what I wrote. Neither you nor other supporters of photons
replied to those my posts, as you have no answers to my questions.
Well, then it is senseless to speak of possibility of quantified
fields. We may not speak of a theory until its basis is not
self-consistent. In case of light waves, one of the main their
properties is independence of wave propagation in crossing beams. At
the same time we see interference in which the beams intensity is
summated vectorially, i.e. with account of phase of the waves arriving
to every point of space. If we consider this issue from the view of
photon theory, this requires, after Feynman, much more between-photons
distance and non-interaction of photons with each other. But EM wave
is, after all, a force field affecting the charged particle. If photons
are charged, they will interact with each other; this means, two light
beams in crossing have to disperse, but they do not. If photons are
uncharged, their size has to be proportional to the number of
wavelengths. In this case,
1. The size of photon for infrared and lower waves will well exceed the
quantum size.
2. Interfering, photons will pass through each other without
interaction, as we see the interference pattern at each point, not in
fragments.
This is not all, of course, but enough to deny quantum fields. You do
not want to see and hear this all, but your theory remains
self-discrepant. You can be unwilling to understand it, but that is the
matter. ;-)
Sergey
This is a part
of my "Spin is in Theory" I could easily theorize that gravitational
fields surround all that is(why not?) Could be a smart ***** and continual
with "fields" are also associated with the strong force that hold nuclei
together. My mind is having a field day with fields. Kind
of interesting thinking. Beert
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04 Sep 2005 06:43:00 PM |
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nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
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04 Sep 2005 08:05:49 PM |
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nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory" over and over
without ever saying exactly what it is, I nominate nightbat for the
Victor von Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
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04 Sep 2005 11:11:17 PM |
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Art Deco wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory" over and over
without ever saying exactly what it is, I nominate nightbat for the
Victor von Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
You seemed to know what it was in a previous post, Art.
You took better notes than I did.
Give the guy at least a month to relax.
Don't drive him to distraction.
Double-A
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 10:56:17 AM |
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Double-A <double-a@hush.ai> wrote:
Art Deco wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory" over and over
without ever saying exactly what it is, I nominate nightbat for the
Victor von Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
You seemed to know what it was in a previous post, Art.
You took better notes than I did.
Note the word "exactly" in the nomination.
Give the guy at least a month to relax.
Don't drive him to distraction.
That would be hard for me to do, seeing as he has me KF'd.
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
04 Sep 2005 08:10:28 PM |
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[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory" over and over
without ever saying exactly what it is, I nominate nightbat for the
Victor von Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
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| User: "Dr. Flonkenstein" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 02:02:08 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 19:10:28 -0600, Art Deco wrote:
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed Cygnus X-1 the idea
that black holes do not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations are open to more
than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep posting Einstien was
"wrong" They actually think this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh
ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't make posts saying
"Einstein was wrong", but I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an invisible object
weighing 15 solar masses orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be "black". Now they see
lots of x-rays coming from spots in space, and so they somehow change
their theory around to claim "this proves black holes exist"! If they
didn't see anything, they would say that that proved that black holes
existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky Way,and the trillions
of cores of galaxies of the universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny come lately
gravastars please don't make the Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm
mourning the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long
ago net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory model long
predates recent gravastars and any other so called stars like quark,
vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because they are not light emitting
stars they are profound nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound " Black Comets ".
Even Hawking has now 30 year reversed himself after realizing energy can
never be Universe lost because it is indestructible via mathematical
proof. Enlighten mind listen up and understand that as proof since when
does a mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit without it. Why do
you think recent presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to try
to now hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes profound
Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results speak louder then
words. The Tesla original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet " of Hubble
telescope non stellar visible light emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory" over and over
without ever saying exactly what it is, I nominate nightbat for the
Victor von Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Seconded. Nightbat for VVFWS!
--
mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <40376AD8.C83FBF5A@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r1lh297cequd35addb@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg5ragcpbbihn3coliv@4ax.com>
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."
in Message-MID: <k1kte1hu59khhkt4m1g42g52gkacmcokin@4ax.com>
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for fucks sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."
in Message-ID: <lhic01pc5svudk22n6rpcvovskdmpi3ir8@4ax.com>
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."
in Message-ID: <j1b5c1l2629tc6afu575d5puclm321knok@4ax.com>
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."
in Message-ID: <5g89d15kbjd3cd7i6fn9c3ke93n12dm406@4ax.com>
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."
in Message-ID: <1rfee1d5iuhq3piii8b9dtq9rtk5uatr1h@4ax.com>
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"
in Message-ID: <2mrge1phgk68ourdt2eq8thne0h7hv0sb6@4ax.com>
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"
reminder: Message-ID: <pan.2005.09.01.00.52.15.77207@localhost.localdomain>
The quote naziwhore Don Ocean stole.
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| User: "Chadwick Stone©" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
04 Sep 2005 08:58:06 PM |
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X-No-Archive: YES
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
--
Skepticult® Member# 581-00504-208
ChadwickStone at Gmail dot com
Usenet's most helpful netizen
Hammer of Thor, March 2005
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| User: "Rising Loonie" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 08:17:49 AM |
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X-No-Archive: YES
Chadwick Stone=A9 wrote:
X-No-Archive: YES
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=3DEMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
--
Skepticult=AE Member# 581-00504-208
ChadwickStone at Gmail dot com
Usenet's most helpful netizen
Hammer of Thor, March 2005
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| User: "Rising Loonie" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 08:23:39 AM |
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Rising Loonie wrote:
X-No-Archive: YES
Chadwick Stone=A9 wrote:
X-No-Archive: YES
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=3DEMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
--
Skepticult=AE Member# 581-00504-208
ChadwickStone at Gmail dot com
Usenet's most helpful netizen
Hammer of Thor, March 2005
Hey Google posters!
You too can be an AUK coward by merely placing
'X-No-Archive: YES' as the first line of your posting ( without the
single quotes )
RL
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| User: "nightbat" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 09:26:20 AM |
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nightbat wrote
Rising Loonie wrote:>
Chadwick Stone© wrote:
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
Rising Loonie
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
nightbat
You haven't known the auk coffee boys are net spineless trolls
obsessed with Officer Bohne and Alexa net 200+ IQ displayed aptitude
Officer RL, my my, I had thought you cadet sharper then that? But at
least you're on to them now and that's all that counts. We still have to
baby-sit them for Darla, but like the auk sign says please don't feed
the troll kook clueless.
carry on,
the nightbat
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 10:26:53 AM |
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nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Rising Loonie wrote:>
Chadwick Stone© wrote:
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
Rising Loonie
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
nightbat
You haven't known the auk coffee boys are net spineless trolls
obsessed with Officer Bohne and Alexa net 200+ IQ displayed aptitude
Officer RL, my my, I had thought you cadet sharper then that? But at
least you're on to them now and that's all that counts. We still have to
baby-sit them for Darla, but like the auk sign says please don't feed
the troll kook clueless.
carry on,
the nightbat
nightbat accepts the nomination!
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
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| User: "Rising Loonie" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 10:36:14 AM |
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|
Art Deco wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Rising Loonie wrote:>
Chadwick Stone=A9 wrote:
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=3DEMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
Rising Loonie
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
nightbat
You haven't known the auk coffee boys are net spineless trolls
obsessed with Officer Bohne and Alexa net 200+ IQ displayed aptitude
Officer RL, my my, I had thought you cadet sharper then that? But at
least you're on to them now and that's all that counts. We still have to
baby-sit them for Darla, but like the auk sign says please don't feed
the troll kook clueless.
carry on,
the nightbat
nightbat accepts the nomination!
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
Sorry. I don't consider a hit-and-run seconding of support to be valid.
Thus, I do not see that there is a valid nomination for nightbat to
alledgedly accept.
..=2E. A wholly shoddy effort, frankly.
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 11:23:52 AM |
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Rising Loonie <raving.loonie@gmail.com> wrote:
Art Deco wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Rising Loonie wrote:>
Chadwick Stone© wrote:
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly showed
Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do not exist is
very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I don't
make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but I do
question black holes, as did Einstein himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and an
invisible object weighing 15 solar masses orbiting
it. Great amount of x-rays from an accretion disk of
gas created as the black hole pulls matter from the
blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would say
that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos johnny
come lately gravastars please don't make the Captain
laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning the dead in
New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The nightbat long ago
net science groups " Black Comet " presented theory
model long predates recent gravastars and any other so
called stars like quark, vacuum, worm hole, or
gravistars, because they are not light emitting stars
they are profound nightbat net long ago presented
metamorphosed altered matter black hole enigma solution
profound " Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never be
Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a mainstream
Los Alamos scientist present his claims without the
math? Answer: When he purely wants the title credit
without it. Why do you think recent presenting
scientist has contracted with the JPL to try to now
hopefully figure it out, because he knows it makes
profound Captain paradox model solution sense. Remember
the cold fusion scientist's race fiasco, observation
peer results speak louder then words. The Tesla
original based, radio, x-ray and inferred telescope
findings, support the nightbat model of the " Black
Comet " of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it is, I
nominate nightbat for the Victor von Frankenstein Weird
Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
Rising Loonie
' Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Sep 11, 9:58 pm).
'
Hah! ... Doesn't even the guts to leave a permenent record in Usenet.
Typical of AUK's representatives ...
nightbat
You haven't known the auk coffee boys are net spineless trolls
obsessed with Officer Bohne and Alexa net 200+ IQ displayed aptitude
Officer RL, my my, I had thought you cadet sharper then that? But at
least you're on to them now and that's all that counts. We still have to
baby-sit them for Darla, but like the auk sign says please don't feed
the troll kook clueless.
carry on,
the nightbat
nightbat accepts the nomination!
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
Sorry. I don't consider a hit-and-run seconding of support to be valid.
Thus, I do not see that there is a valid nomination for nightbat to
alledgedly accept.
... A wholly shoddy effort, frankly.
"...auk coffee boys are net spineless trolls obsessed with Officer
Bohne and Alexa net 200+ IQ displayed aptitude..."
Hahahahahah, this one is a classic!
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
.
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| User: "Chadwick Stone©" |
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| Title: Re: VVFWS NOMINATION: Re: Supplement to the paper on black holes |
05 Sep 2005 10:15:08 PM |
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X-No-Archive: YES
Art Deco has offered into testimony
050920050926530054%art_deco@127.0.0.1
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Rising Loonie wrote:>
Chadwick Stone© wrote:
Art Deco has offered into testimony
040920051910286876%art_deco@127.0.0.1
[I forgot to indicate this was a nomination in the
subject line]
Art Deco <art_deco@127.0.0.1> wrote:
nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote:
nightbat wrote
Double-A wrote:
Mornin' Bert,
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
None Once the great Hubble telescope clearly
showed Cygnus X-1 the idea that black holes do
not exist is very naive thinking.
Ah come on, Bert. You know that those observations
are open to more than one interpretation.
I relate this bad
thinking to the egotistical dim wits that keep
posting Einstien was "wrong" They actually think
this makes them smarter than Einstien.(oh ya)
Dim wits? I thought we were friends, Bert. I
don't make posts saying "Einstein was wrong", but
I do question black holes, as did Einstein
himself, Bert!
We just have to study the constellation Cygnus and
see what
is taking place there with a blue giant star,and
an invisible object weighing 15 solar masses
orbiting it. Great amount of x-rays from an
accretion disk of gas created as the black hole
pulls matter from the blue giant.
Originally, black holes were supposed to just be
"black". Now they see lots of x-rays coming from
spots in space, and so they somehow change their
theory around to claim "this proves black holes
exist"! If they didn't see anything, they would
say that that proved that black holes existed.
This None is just one example of many black hole
binary
systems. Best not forget the core of our Milky
Way,and the trillions of cores of galaxies of the
universe. Bert
Gravastars, Bert!
Double-A
nightbat
Three year old plus presented Los Alamos
johnny come lately gravastars please don't make the
Captain laugh Officer Double-A, for I'm mourning
the dead in New Orleans and Gulf Coast area. The
nightbat long ago net science groups " Black Comet
" presented theory model long predates recent
gravastars and any other so called stars like
quark, vacuum, worm hole, or gravistars, because
they are not light emitting stars they are profound
nightbat net long ago presented metamorphosed
altered matter black hole enigma solution profound
" Black Comets ". Even Hawking has now 30 year
reversed himself after realizing energy can never
be Universe lost because it is indestructible via
mathematical proof. Enlighten mind listen up and
understand that as proof since when does a
mainstream Los Alamos scientist present his claims
without the math? Answer: When he purely wants the
title credit without it. Why do you think recent
presenting scientist has contracted with the JPL to
try to now hopefully figure it out, because he
knows it makes profound Captain paradox model
solution sense. Remember the cold fusion
scientist's race fiasco, observation peer results
speak louder then words. The Tesla original based,
radio, x-ray and inferred telescope findings,
support the nightbat model of the " Black Comet "
of Hubble telescope non stellar visible light
emitting space body.
carry on,
the nightbat
For repeatedly posting about his black comet "theory"
over and over without ever saying exactly what it
is, I nominate nightbat for the Victor von
Frankenstein Weird Science award for September 2005.
Any seconds?
Holy moley!!! Yes, I will second this worthy nom.
Rising Loonie
' Note: The author of this message requested that it
not be | | | | | | | | | |
