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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "CDL"
Date: 23 Aug 2003 04:36:54 PM
Object: Telpo
teleportation is a joke! or is it true.
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: Telpo 23 Aug 2003 03:57:45 PM
CDL wrote:


teleportation is a joke! or is it true.

Blessed are the cheesemakers - or was this an allegorical reference to
all dairy workers?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
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User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Telpo 23 Aug 2003 04:40:14 PM
CDL wrote:

teleportation is a joke! or is it true.


Don't get carried away, now.
Bob Kolker
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User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Telpo 24 Aug 2003 03:00:12 AM
In sci.physics, CDL
<bettycallender@sunbeach.net>
wrote
on Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:36:54 -0500
<bi8iqi$446$1@nntp2-cm.news.eni.net>:

teleportation is a joke! or is it true.

Well, here's something to consider. How much energy would
it take to teleport a redshirt to the planet surface?
Enough to fry him. :-)
Just because one can magically sparkle from point A to
point B doesn't mean the 2LoT can be violated that easily.
Either one has to consume matter/antimatter fuel to make
up the difference when beaming up, or one has to figure
out where to put the extra energy when beaming down --
ideally by *creating* matter/antimatter fuel.
And then there's the question of momentum, which in a way
is even worse. But never mind that, have the redshirt
be eaten by a giant flower instead. :-) It's more
entertaining that way.
--
#191,

It's still legal to go .sigless.
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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: Telpo 24 Aug 2003 06:16:34 PM
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

In sci.physics, CDL
<bettycallender@sunbeach.net>
wrote
on Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:36:54 -0500
<bi8iqi$446$1@nntp2-cm.news.eni.net>:

teleportation is a joke! or is it true.


Well, here's something to consider. How much energy would
it take to teleport a redshirt to the planet surface?

Enough to fry him. :-)

That's why they're redshirts, neh?

Just because one can magically sparkle from point A to
point B doesn't mean the 2LoT can be violated that easily.
Either one has to consume matter/antimatter fuel to make
up the difference when beaming up, or one has to figure
out where to put the extra energy when beaming down --
ideally by *creating* matter/antimatter fuel.

And then there's the question of momentum, which in a way
is even worse. But never mind that, have the redshirt
be eaten by a giant flower instead. :-) It's more
entertaining that way.

AFAIK Larry Niven is the only SF author to even consider
this point, much less provide a means- large masses floating
in water. Momentum is "transferred to and from" these masses
during frinst east-west teleport events so the traveller
isn't violently flung into the Earth or sky. I don't think
he worried much about surface-orbit teleports until the
Ringworld stories. There, the tech was sufficiently
"magical" that characters never thought about it.
Mark L. Fergerson
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