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User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 12:02:22 PM

http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html

If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,
I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,
energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature
differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.
Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.
How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?
One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.
If energy can be made from temperature differences through various
processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places
where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep
below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance
that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another
source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.
Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not
need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.
This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the
heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different
property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam
engines.
gmbajszar@yahoo.com
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 12:26:26 PM
On Sep 10, 11:02 am, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,

I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,

energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature

differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.

Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.

How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?

One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.

If energy can be made from temperature differences through various

processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places

where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep

below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance

that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another

source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.

Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not

need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.

This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the

heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different

property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam

engines.

gmbajs...@yahoo.com

Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,
nothing will happen, you simply mix air.
Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures
other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,
and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the
heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.
Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon
under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A
balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.
Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and
things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.
a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes
heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using
top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but
above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear
powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching
36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah
can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free
energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be
too expensive for commercial use.
How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by
pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure
can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam
generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure
by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three
tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes
huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find
temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how
energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat
and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after
compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the
coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is
heat outside.
The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.
To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under
water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.
The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.
You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under
water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure
energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 12:44:34 PM
On Sep 10, 11:26 am, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 10, 11:02 am, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:





http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,


I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,


energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature


differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.


Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.


How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?


One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.


If energy can be made from temperature differences through various


processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places


where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep


below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance


that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another


source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.


Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not


need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.


This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the


heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different


property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam


engines.


gmbajs...@yahoo.com


Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,

nothing will happen, you simply mix air.

Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures

other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,

and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the

heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.

Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon

under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A

balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.

Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and

things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.

a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes

heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using

top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but

above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear

powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching

36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah

can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free

energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be

too expensive for commercial use.

How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by

pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure

can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam

generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure

by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three

tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes

huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find

temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how

energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat

and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after

compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the

coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is

heat outside.

The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.

To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under

water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.

The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.

You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under

water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure

energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.

To obtain pressure energy, one needs to transfer air in and out
of a high pressure area. Again, we know that high pressure stream
from boiling water can generate huge power and run steam locomotives.
The air deep under water can obtain high pressures instantly.
One sees a large water tank, and starts with experiments by running
air straight to the bottom of the water tank and stuff. Air is
pressured
from all directions under water as the volume of air wants to be
replaced
with the much heavier volume of water. Water sets a pressure on the
much lighter bag of air. To pump air inside the bottom of the tank
faces resistance as the bag is pressured for the air to escape, either
from where it came from or toward the surface of the water. Two escape
directions. If the air forms an upside down bucket, the escape
direction
becomes upway. We shouldn't jump into the ideas of perpetual motion
concepts. We need to find a way to transmit pressure in another state,
one that can convert and keep in mind heat pumps how they convert
properties to allow the transfer of heat. If we just move warm and
cold
air around, we won't find a way to make electricity. We need the
secret
formula.
(to be continued)
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 12:55:39 PM

http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,


I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,


energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature


differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.


Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.


How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?


One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.


If energy can be made from temperature differences through various


processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places


where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep


below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance


that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another


source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.


Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not


need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.


This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the


heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different


property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam


engines.


gmbajs...@yahoo.com


Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,


nothing will happen, you simply mix air.


Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures


other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,


and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the


heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.


Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon


under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A


balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.


Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and


things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.


a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes


heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using


top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but


above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear


powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching


36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah


can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free


energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be


too expensive for commercial use.


How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by


pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure


can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam


generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure


by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three


tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes


huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find


temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how


energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat


and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after


compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the


coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is


heat outside.


The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.


To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under


water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.


The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.


You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under


water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure


energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.


To obtain pressure energy, one needs to transfer air in and out

of a high pressure area. Again, we know that high pressure stream

from boiling water can generate huge power and run steam locomotives.

The air deep under water can obtain high pressures instantly.

One sees a large water tank, and starts with experiments by running

air straight to the bottom of the water tank and stuff. Air is
pressured

from all directions under water as the volume of air wants to be
replaced

with the much heavier volume of water. Water sets a pressure on the

much lighter bag of air. To pump air inside the bottom of the tank

faces resistance as the bag is pressured for the air to escape, either

from where it came from or toward the surface of the water. Two escape

directions. If the air forms an upside down bucket, the escape
direction

becomes upway. We shouldn't jump into the ideas of perpetual motion

concepts. We need to find a way to transmit pressure in another state,

one that can convert and keep in mind heat pumps how they convert

properties to allow the transfer of heat. If we just move warm and
cold

air around, we won't find a way to make electricity. We need the
secret

formula.

(to be continued)

So let's move on. The theory here claims that since from a
differential
such as temperature differences we can make electricity, then maybe
we can make electricity from unlimited sources of pressure differences
in our atmosphere, one needs to fuse it together.
We know that temperature can set things into motion through pressure
and utilize a process such as steam engines and boiling water, or a
newly discovered process by Orest Symko. The point is that the
energy source becomes heat which through pressure can be demonstrated
to make electricity. Once steam produces pressure, electricity can be
made. The model here is to find pressure, cold pressure and use it to
set things into motion. We need electricity to pump air under water,
and
the air held under water can find a state of pressure, and pressure
can
be used to run a pressure system as steam engines.
We have to calculate the electricities used. We know very little about
these things, much less than what we heard of heat pumps.
The idea is of course to use little electricity to pump air under
water, then that converts to motion and produces more electricity
than was originally used, and try to use a model similar to
heat pumps to demonstrate that a coefficiency greater than 1.
Air under pressure driven to a steam engine and combined with
air from the out of the water tank pressures of air can be fused
to run a pressure engine, of course the puzzle depends on the
cheap way to introduce air into the bottom of the water tank.
The pressure of air under water is escape pressure, as steam
from boiling water. Escape pressure.
....
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 01:07:09 PM

http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,


I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,


energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature


differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.


Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.


How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?


One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.


If energy can be made from temperature differences through various


processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places


where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep


below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance


that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another


source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.


Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not


need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.


This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the


heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different


property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam


engines.


gmbajs...@yahoo.com


Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,


nothing will happen, you simply mix air.


Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures


other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,


and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the


heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.


Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon


under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A


balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.


Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and


things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.


a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes


heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using


top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but


above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear


powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching


36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah


can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free


energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be


too expensive for commercial use.


How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by


pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure


can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam


generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure


by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three


tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes


huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find


temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how


energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat


and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after


compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the


coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is


heat outside.


The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.


To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under


water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.


The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.


You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under


water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure


energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.


To obtain pressure energy, one needs to transfer air in and out


of a high pressure area. Again, we know that high pressure stream


from boiling water can generate huge power and run steam locomotives.


The air deep under water can obtain high pressures instantly.


One sees a large water tank, and starts with experiments by running


air straight to the bottom of the water tank and stuff. Air is
pressured


from all directions under water as the volume of air wants to be
replaced


with the much heavier volume of water. Water sets a pressure on the


much lighter bag of air. To pump air inside the bottom of the tank


faces resistance as the bag is pressured for the air to escape, either


from where it came from or toward the surface of the water. Two escape


directions. If the air forms an upside down bucket, the escape
direction


becomes upway. We shouldn't jump into the ideas of perpetual motion


concepts. We need to find a way to transmit pressure in another state,


one that can convert and keep in mind heat pumps how they convert


properties to allow the transfer of heat. If we just move warm and
cold


air around, we won't find a way to make electricity. We need the
secret


formula.


(to be continued)


So let's move on. The theory here claims that since from a
differential

such as temperature differences we can make electricity, then maybe

we can make electricity from unlimited sources of pressure differences

in our atmosphere, one needs to fuse it together.

We know that temperature can set things into motion through pressure

and utilize a process such as steam engines and boiling water, or a

newly discovered process by Orest Symko. The point is that the

energy source becomes heat which through pressure can be demonstrated

to make electricity. Once steam produces pressure, electricity can be

made. The model here is to find pressure, cold pressure and use it to

set things into motion. We need electricity to pump air under water,
and

the air held under water can find a state of pressure, and pressure
can

be used to run a pressure system as steam engines.

We have to calculate the electricities used. We know very little about

these things, much less than what we heard of heat pumps.

The idea is of course to use little electricity to pump air under

water, then that converts to motion and produces more electricity

than was originally used, and try to use a model similar to

heat pumps to demonstrate that a coefficiency greater than 1.

Air under pressure driven to a steam engine and combined with

air from the out of the water tank pressures of air can be fused

to run a pressure engine, of course the puzzle depends on the

cheap way to introduce air into the bottom of the water tank.

The pressure of air under water is escape pressure, as steam

from boiling water. Escape pressure.

...

There is no resistance in pumping refrigirant fluid or gas indoors
or outdoors. The freon moves easily in pipes, runs into the
compressor, and heat is exchanged. There is a resistance
in pumping air in or out of the water tank as one encounters
water pressure on an air bag. Weight cannot be exchanged
as heat, only moved, and moving may be necessary as that.
One can run a hose of air deep accross a large water tank,
where the hose runs into the water tank on one bottom side
of the tank and exits on another side of the water tank, one
can imagine a rubber hose laying on the bottom of the tank,
in it air. Air can be transfered from one side of the tank to the
other this way without resistance. One sees a hole on the
side of a fishtank, and a rubber tube runs to another hole
on the other side of the fishtank, and breething through this
hole should be easy.
The idea is to deliver air into the bottom of the fish tank
without resistance. Like in the heat pumps, the freon can
be indoors or outdoors, and the delivery of this liquid does
not experience problems. Heat is collected from outdoors
and released through compression, where the refrigirant
cools below the outdoor temperatures when the heat is
released.
We need a release process and an obtaining of pressure
process from a virtually unlimited supply of energy.
....
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 01:21:04 PM
On Sep 10, 12:07 pm, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,


I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,


energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature


differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.


Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.


How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?


One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.


If energy can be made from temperature differences through various


processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places


where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep


below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance


that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another


source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.


Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not


need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.


This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the


heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different


property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam


engines.


gmbajs...@yahoo.com


Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,


nothing will happen, you simply mix air.


Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures


other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,


and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the


heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.


Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon


under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A


balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.


Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and


things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.


a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes


heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using


top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but


above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear


powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching


36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah


can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free


energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be


too expensive for commercial use.


How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by


pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure


can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam


generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure


by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three


tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes


huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find


temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how


energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat


and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after


compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the


coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is


heat outside.


The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.


To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under


water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.


The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.


You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under


water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure


energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.


To obtain pressure energy, one needs to transfer air in and out


of a high pressure area. Again, we know that high pressure stream


from boiling water can generate huge power and run steam locomotives.


The air deep under water can obtain high pressures instantly.


One sees a large water tank, and starts with experiments by running


air straight to the bottom of the water tank and stuff. Air is
pressured


from all directions under water as the volume of air wants to be
replaced


with the much heavier volume of water. Water sets a pressure on the


much lighter bag of air. To pump air inside the bottom of the tank


faces resistance as the bag is pressured for the air to escape, either


from where it came from or toward the surface of the water. Two escape


directions. If the air forms an upside down bucket, the escape
direction


becomes upway. We shouldn't jump into the ideas of perpetual motion


concepts. We need to find a way to transmit pressure in another state,


one that can convert and keep in mind heat pumps how they convert


properties to allow the transfer of heat. If we just move warm and
cold


air around, we won't find a way to make electricity. We need the
secret


formula.


(to be continued)


So let's move on. The theory here claims that since from a
differential


such as temperature differences we can make electricity, then maybe


we can make electricity from unlimited sources of pressure differences


in our atmosphere, one needs to fuse it together.


We know that temperature can set things into motion through pressure


and utilize a process such as steam engines and boiling water, or a


newly discovered process by Orest Symko. The point is that the


energy source becomes heat which through pressure can be demonstrated


to make electricity. Once steam produces pressure, electricity can be


made. The model here is to find pressure, cold pressure and use it to


set things into motion. We need electricity to pump air under water,
and


the air held under water can find a state of pressure, and pressure
can


be used to run a pressure system as steam engines.


We have to calculate the electricities used. We know very little about


these things, much less than what we heard of heat pumps.


The idea is of course to use little electricity to pump air under


water, then that converts to motion and produces more electricity


than was originally used, and try to use a model similar to


heat pumps to demonstrate that a coefficiency greater than 1.


Air under pressure driven to a steam engine and combined with


air from the out of the water tank pressures of air can be fused


to run a pressure engine, of course the puzzle depends on the


cheap way to introduce air into the bottom of the water tank.


The pressure of air under water is escape pressure, as steam


from boiling water. Escape pressure.


...


There is no resistance in pumping refrigirant fluid or gas indoors

or outdoors. The freon moves easily in pipes, runs into the

compressor, and heat is exchanged. There is a resistance

in pumping air in or out of the water tank as one encounters

water pressure on an air bag. Weight cannot be exchanged

as heat, only moved, and moving may be necessary as that.

One can run a hose of air deep accross a large water tank,

where the hose runs into the water tank on one bottom side

of the tank and exits on another side of the water tank, one

can imagine a rubber hose laying on the bottom of the tank,

in it air. Air can be transfered from one side of the tank to the

other this way without resistance. One sees a hole on the

side of a fishtank, and a rubber tube runs to another hole

on the other side of the fishtank, and breething through this

hole should be easy.

The idea is to deliver air into the bottom of the fish tank

without resistance. Like in the heat pumps, the freon can

be indoors or outdoors, and the delivery of this liquid does

not experience problems. Heat is collected from outdoors

and released through compression, where the refrigirant

cools below the outdoor temperatures when the heat is

released.

We need a release process and an obtaining of pressure

process from a virtually unlimited supply of energy.

...

Cold pressure. You place a three ton weight on a bag of
air, that air generates pressure, and that pressure can run
an engine such as a steam engine.
You need to be able to easily fill up a bag under water,
and use the cold pressure to run an engine outside of
the water tank.
Puzzle.
.
User: "malibu"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 01:58:29 PM
On Sep 10, 12:21 pm, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 10, 12:07 pm, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:



http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html


If heat pumps can produce energy from temperature differences,


I speculate that if there is a difference of other physics than
temperature,


energy can be made, as long as there is a greater source such as the
temperature


differences between water and air in Hawaii, as you wrote on your
page.


Let's introduce other natural physical differences than temperature.


How about atmospheric pressure and water pressure in the ocean?


One finds two different pressures, one deep under water, one in the
air.


If energy can be made from temperature differences through various


processes such as the Seebeck effect, how do we tap on to two places


where in one the water can produce high pressures on a bag of air deep


below, and little pressures above the water's surface. There is a
chance


that since we have unlimited pressures present under water and another


source above the surface that we can produce unlimited energy.


Imagine air driven into a water tank from below, and the air does not


need to travel down the water but takes a shortcut.


This is my research. Simply put, we compare what happens in the


heat pumps to gain a coefficiency of 3, and try to mimick it with a
different


property. Pressure is energy as it can set an object into motion as in
steam


engines.


gmbajs...@yahoo.com


Continued: If you move air around between a warmer and a colder
source,


nothing will happen, you simply mix air.


Something needs to happen enable to get energy from two sources of
temperatures


other than simply mixing them. A compressor/decompressor is used in
air pumps,


and one arrives to the coefficiency of three as there is an energy
source in the


heat out there even if the temperatures are around freezing.


Pressure can set an object into motion, as seen in heat pumps. A
balloon


under pressure can blow air, there we find motion as the air escapes.
A


balloon builds up pressure in this example as air makes it inside.


Air deep under water is under pressure. But by moving air and


things around, we don't arrive to a coefficiency above 1.


a) we need to identify a source of energy. In heat pumps, one assumes


heat can be used as energy, either throough boiling water and then
using


top of the science means to turn steam into motion in the old ways but


above 33 percent steam engine efficiency to make free energy. Nuclear


powerplants that use multimillion dollar steam engines reported
reaching


36 percent efficiency. Orest Symko's invention at the University of
Utah


can turn heat into sound and sound into electricity. But results of
free


energy are far, a decade, two decades for now and any system might be


too expensive for commercial use.


How do you identify a source of energy in simple pressure, such as by


pushing a bag of water down in the sea, it gains pressure, and
pressure


can set things into motion without heat. It is the pressure that
steam


generates that allows moving steam engines. We can arrive to pressure


by pushing air under water. How can we utilize pressure? You place
three


tons weight on a very sturdy bag of air. Inside the bag the pressure
becomes


huge. So you need to find pressures in the environment as you find


temperature differences, you analyze heat pumps and follow through how


energy can become more than 100 percent efficient through moving heat


and using compression to obtain heat. Freon carries heat before and
after


compression or decompression. A cold refrigirant liquid can heat from
the


coils outdoors if there is cold outside or warm refrigirant liquid if
there is


heat outside.


The idea to make heat pumps efficient is *heat transfer*.


To transfer pressure is a whole different thing. We have a bag of air
under


water, if we transfer the bag out of water, the whole pressure
changes.


The idea becomes *transfering pressure*.


You can't just take a bag of air from under a heavy pressure under


water and move it. You have to have a process that accumulates
pressure


energy, transfer it and use it to make energy.


To obtain pressure energy, one needs to transfer air in and out


of a high pressure area. Again, we know that high pressure stream


from boiling water can generate huge power and run steam locomotives.


The air deep under water can obtain high pressures instantly.


One sees a large water tank, and starts with experiments by running


air straight to the bottom of the water tank and stuff. Air is
pressured


from all directions under water as the volume of air wants to be
replaced


with the much heavier volume of water. Water sets a pressure on the


much lighter bag of air. To pump air inside the bottom of the tank


faces resistance as the bag is pressured for the air to escape, either


from where it came from or toward the surface of the water. Two escape


directions. If the air forms an upside down bucket, the escape
direction


becomes upway. We shouldn't jump into the ideas of perpetual motion


concepts. We need to find a way to transmit pressure in another state,


one that can convert and keep in mind heat pumps how they convert


properties to allow the transfer of heat. If we just move warm and
cold


air around, we won't find a way to make electricity. We need the
secret


formula.


(to be continued)


So let's move on. The theory here claims that since from a
differential


such as temperature differences we can make electricity, then maybe


we can make electricity from unlimited sources of pressure differences


in our atmosphere, one needs to fuse it together.


We know that temperature can set things into motion through pressure


and utilize a process such as steam engines and boiling water, or a


newly discovered process by Orest Symko. The point is that the


energy source becomes heat which through pressure can be demonstrated


to make electricity. Once steam produces pressure, electricity can be


made. The model here is to find pressure, cold pressure and use it to


set things into motion. We need electricity to pump air under water,
and


the air held under water can find a state of pressure, and pressure
can


be used to run a pressure system as steam engines.


We have to calculate the electricities used. We know very little about


these things, much less than what we heard of heat pumps.


The idea is of course to use little electricity to pump air under


water, then that converts to motion and produces more electricity


than was originally used, and try to use a model similar to


heat pumps to demonstrate that a coefficiency greater than 1.


Air under pressure driven to a steam engine and combined with


air from the out of the water tank pressures of air can be fused


to run a pressure engine, of course the puzzle depends on the


cheap way to introduce air into the bottom of the water tank.


The pressure of air under water is escape pressure, as steam


from boiling water. Escape pressure.


...


There is no resistance in pumping refrigirant fluid or gas indoors


or outdoors. The freon moves easily in pipes, runs into the


compressor, and heat is exchanged. There is a resistance


in pumping air in or out of the water tank as one encounters


water pressure on an air bag. Weight cannot be exchanged


as heat, only moved, and moving may be necessary as that.


One can run a hose of air deep accross a large water tank,


where the hose runs into the water tank on one bottom side


of the tank and exits on another side of the water tank, one


can imagine a rubber hose laying on the bottom of the tank,


in it air. Air can be transfered from one side of the tank to the


other this way without resistance. One sees a hole on the


side of a fishtank, and a rubber tube runs to another hole


on the other side of the fishtank, and breething through this


hole should be easy.


The idea is to deliver air into the bottom of the fish tank


without resistance. Like in the heat pumps, the freon can


be indoors or outdoors, and the delivery of this liquid does


not experience problems. Heat is collected from outdoors


and released through compression, where the refrigirant


cools below the outdoor temperatures when the heat is


released.


We need a release process and an obtaining of pressure


process from a virtually unlimited supply of energy.


...


Cold pressure. You place a three ton weight on a bag of

air, that air generates pressure, and that pressure can run

an engine such as a steam engine.

You need to be able to easily fill up a bag under water,

and use the cold pressure to run an engine outside of

the water tank.

Puzzle.

stirling engine
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 03:07:21 PM

Cold pressure. You place a three ton weight on a bag of


air, that air generates pressure, and that pressure can run


an engine such as a steam engine.


You need to be able to easily fill up a bag under water,


and use the cold pressure to run an engine outside of


the water tank.


Puzzle.


stirling engine

The idea here is that air pressure such as air under water can
serve as a replacement to steam engines, or the apparently
better stirling engine. The thing is to introduce air under water.
I speculated that a fish tank could receive air from above the
water (pressed down to the bottom of the tank), or introduce
air from below the tank. The air deep under watter is pressured
as steam engines do, but to run a pressure system that till
today always run on a heat source comes with innovative
thinking in the areas of energy making. I was trying to combine
the idea of heat pumps and speculate if pressure differential
can be used as temperature differential for making energy.
Air pressure can make energy.
One here is not limited. For example boil water to introduce
air. Use heat pumps, whatever comes to mind.
You can have an unlimited supply of water, say in the ocean.
You not only have steam pressure power, but an instant
cold pressure as well. Dual power. Can water pressure be
used? I know this is speculative, but should be in the interest
of the person running the web page on free energy in the
beginning of this thread.
The stirling engine that runs on a heat source is very interesting,
I came up with water pressure on air having similar qualities
to steam engines if one can supply the bottom of the water tank
with air.
Happy research.
.
User: "gb6726"

Title: Re: Tesla and free energy 10 Sep 2007 03:21:15 PM
On Sep 10, 2:07 pm, gb6726 <gb6...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Cold pressure. You place a three ton weight on a bag of


air, that air generates pressure, and that pressure can run


an engine such as a steam engine.


You need to be able to easily fill up a bag under water,


and use the cold pressure to run an engine outside of


the water tank.


Puzzle.


stirling engine


The idea here is that air pressure such as air under water can

serve as a replacement to steam engines, or the apparently

better stirling engine. The thing is to introduce air under water.

I speculated that a fish tank could receive air from above the

water (pressed down to the bottom of the tank), or introduce

air from below the tank. The air deep under watter is pressured

as steam engines do, but to run a pressure system that till

today always run on a heat source comes with innovative

thinking in the areas of energy making. I was trying to combine

the idea of heat pumps and speculate if pressure differential

can be used as temperature differential for making energy.

Air pressure can make energy.

One here is not limited. For example boil water to introduce

air. Use heat pumps, whatever comes to mind.

You can have an unlimited supply of water, say in the ocean.

You not only have steam pressure power, but an instant

cold pressure as well. Dual power. Can water pressure be

used? I know this is speculative, but should be in the interest

of the person running the web page on free energy in the

beginning of this thread.

The stirling engine that runs on a heat source is very interesting,

I came up with water pressure on air having similar qualities

to steam engines if one can supply the bottom of the water tank

with air.

But everything is connected. Under higher pressures water boils
at higher temperatures.
One could combine natural pressure of air deep under water and
steam power, using the stirling engine, which still seems to be
a beta.
If as promised that a stirling engine could reach almost 100 percent
efficiency, then add natural pressure. Who knows, right?
.










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