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Topic: Science > Physics
User: ""
Date: 21 Apr 2006 08:31:07 PM
Object: The absolute of time
The absolute of time
It is a scientific delusion that the past could still exist in any form
but as non-physical data (memory) but the foolery is largely
unchallenged. Real data has to have the form of DATA + X. For the data
to exist, it must included the presence of a physical storage medium,
be that DNA, chip or inside the brain etc. The past is however unreal
data, which is to say by itself time past has no physical storage
medium unless nature or men choose to store it. If we define the
infinitely small microsecond in which time actually exists as just
DATA, the past is therefore DATA -X. The idea that physics somehow
stores this DATA in some unspecified manner, that the -X is negated
by a +Y to give it some quantifiable energy containment (as any
physical storage medium must consist of to be a quantifiable unit) is
complete scientific delusion. No time travel is every possible, not
even by the smallest nanosecond. Any "evidence or theory" that
"time travel or time shift" is "possible or already proved by
scientific observations" is therefore only unquestionable evidence of
test or theoretical error and nothing else. That is a definite absolute
by which all scientists should confidently challenge any deviation from
and be completely assured they are correct, no matter however incorrect
such a challenge appears. Resolutions contrary to this are pure
coincidence, which is to say the correct answer has been found only via
the unknown cancelling effect of multiple errors. The "absolute of
time" is the opposing scientific absolute to the arts absolute, the
"religious absolutes".
.

User: "Toshi ikutsu?"

Title: Re: The absolute of time 21 Apr 2006 09:28:21 PM
<acctope@tide2000.com> wrote in message
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The absolute of time

It is a scientific delusion

What is a "scientific delusion" ?

that the past could still exist in any form
but as non-physical data (memory)

What is non-physical data ?
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User: ""

Title: Re: The absolute of time 21 Apr 2006 09:46:37 PM
Non-current physical time by definition. That is to say not the current
time moment (as precisely measured to the nanseconds of recording
technology) nor the idea or record of it (future or past). Any
speculation of time travel out of the current moment is the assumption
of non-physical data. My statement that this is impossible therefore
means that "non-physical data" is a concept that only has a meaning
exactly because it is an impossibility. Does that help?
.
User: "Toshi ikutsu?"

Title: Re: The absolute of time 21 Apr 2006 10:22:42 PM
<acctope@tide2000.com> wrote in message
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Non-current physical time by definition. That is to say not the current
time moment (as precisely measured to the nanseconds of recording
technology) nor the idea or record of it (future or past). Any
speculation of time travel out of the current moment is the assumption
of non-physical data. My statement that this is impossible therefore
means that "non-physical data" is a concept that only has a meaning
exactly because it is an impossibility. Does that help?

Just what I thought it was, but that time is over and now non-physical.
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User: ""

Title: Re: The absolute of time 21 Apr 2006 09:19:12 PM
wrote:

The absolute of time

It is a scientific delusion that the past could still exist in any form
but as non-physical data (memory) but the foolery is largely
unchallenged. Real data has to have the form of DATA + X. For the data
to exist, it must included the presence of a physical storage medium,
be that DNA, chip or inside the brain etc. The past is however unreal
data, which is to say by itself time past has no physical storage
medium unless nature or men choose to store it. If we define the
infinitely small microsecond in which time actually exists as just
DATA, the past is therefore DATA -X. The idea that physics somehow
stores this DATA in some unspecified manner, that the -X is negated
by a +Y to give it some quantifiable energy containment (as any
physical storage medium must consist of to be a quantifiable unit) is
complete scientific delusion. No time travel is every possible, not
even by the smallest nanosecond. Any "evidence or theory" that
"time travel or time shift" is "possible or already proved by
scientific observations" is therefore only unquestionable evidence of
test or theoretical error and nothing else. That is a definite absolute
by which all scientists should confidently challenge any deviation from
and be completely assured they are correct, no matter however incorrect
such a challenge appears. Resolutions contrary to this are pure
coincidence, which is to say the correct answer has been found only via
the unknown cancelling effect of multiple errors. The "absolute of
time" is the opposing scientific absolute to the arts absolute, the
"religious absolutes".

The past existed.
The present exists.
The future will exist.
The elsewhere... well suffice it to say our currently existing tense
system is incompatible with modern physics. Would you say that at the
most fundamental scale things go from "will exist" to "exists" to
"existed" all the time?
(...Starblade Riven Darksquall...)
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The absolute of time 21 Apr 2006 10:16:57 PM
In the general scope of human invention and innovation yes. However
only while we are alive are we within the universe we cannot but help
observe as existing while we exist. Physics is only a method of
observing the logic of that existence while we exist. Logic is
therefore a product of existence, not the product of any scientific
method. The danger in allowing theories of spatial, speed and time
relativities to confine us by a branch of scientific logic called
physics to remain as the observers observing from the physical
restriction of one habitable planet is we know that the same branch of
scientific logic has provided the technological potential to terminate
that one habitable planet. Thus on a fundamental scale "existed" when
applied to a single planet will not permit the loop to "will exist"
regardless, except in the scope that the universe and many other
habitable solar systems would still exist in this loop. The human
language tense does suffice to distinguish that the collective pronoun
"we" does not apply in general to those we do not know but maybe
observing the universe from other habitable planets. Thus on the scale
of our linguistic range currently available "we" can all cease to
exist, regardless of the fact that across the rest of the universe the
"unknown pronouns" can observe time will exist, exist and existed.
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