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"Nick" |
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23 Mar 2005 11:41:11 PM |
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The End of Time and Black Holes |
Time cannot go any faster for matter in the curved time
of General Relativity. It can only go slower and that
only by adding motion.
But if it ends then everything(else) ends.
Where (gravitational) time ends there can
be no more proper time.
Since time ends at the edge of a black hole
it would not continue inside. Matter falls
at light speed there. Again the end of time
for matter.
Consider time never ends; for if it did it would
be an absolute end. Time continues.
There are no endings in the form of event horizons
or singularities. There are black holes but they
have no horizons and will only approach being
singularities. They simply shrink forever without
reaching a singularity.
Otherwise curvature goes up but never becomes infinite.
As hawking has said "General Relativity predicts its
own downfall by predicting singularities."
Singularities are infinite space time curvature.
But there are no infinite physical quantities.
Mitch -- Gravity is a Continuum --
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| User: "Bilge" |
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| Title: Re: The End of Time and Black Holes |
24 Mar 2005 03:11:31 AM |
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Nick:
Time cannot go any faster for matter in the curved time
of General Relativity. It can only go slower and that
only by adding motion.
Since you're awfully slow, does that mean you're a black hole?
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| User: "Morituri-|-Max" |
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| Title: Re: The End of Time and Black Holes |
24 Mar 2005 02:21:06 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111642871.386988.48960@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Time cannot go any faster for matter in the curved time
<blah blah> more stuff snipped.. do you really believe that you can wear
down the universe with your incessant noise, and hope reality changes to
suit your shallow pop science version of how things should be?
Who do you think is actually going to suddenly come around to your brand of
ignorance?
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| User: "Tom Capizzi" |
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| Title: Re: The End of Time and Black Holes |
24 Mar 2005 08:15:36 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1111642871.386988.48960@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Time cannot go any faster for matter in the curved time
of General Relativity. It can only go slower and that
only by adding motion.
But if it ends then everything(else) ends.
Where (gravitational) time ends there can
be no more proper time.
Since time ends at the edge of a black hole
it would not continue inside. Matter falls
at light speed there. Again the end of time
for matter.
Consider time never ends; for if it did it would
be an absolute end. Time continues.
There are no endings in the form of event horizons
or singularities. There are black holes but they
have no horizons and will only approach being
singularities. They simply shrink forever without
reaching a singularity.
Otherwise curvature goes up but never becomes infinite.
As hawking has said "General Relativity predicts its
own downfall by predicting singularities."
Singularities are infinite space time curvature.
But there are no infinite physical quantities.
Curvature is a calculated quantity, just like slope. Even in simple
coordinate systems any vertical line has infinite slope. Or how
about Zeno's Paradox? It takes an infinite number of steps to reach
a goal a finite distance away. Or how about the surface of revolution
which encloses a finite volume with an infinite amount of surface area?
How much ideal paint does it take to cover it? As far as singularities
are concerned, it only exists at a single point of infinitesimal size. The
integral of such a quantity over all space can easily be finite.
Mitch -- Gravity is a Continuum --
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