The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang



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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Nick"
Date: 24 Sep 2005 06:07:51 PM
Object: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang
The universe could not expand if the original gravity was infinite.
This is proof that there really are No Black Holes. If there were black
holes then the Big Bang would have been one.
That the universe overcame its original gravity points to a limitation
to gravity's strength. Black holes have an escape velocity larger than
light speed. If gravity was less then matter could escape.
However the original matter of the universe was created it must have
been moving apart faster than its gravity could slow it down. In other
words the escape velocity of the universe had to be less than light
speed for the universe to expand.
The Big Bang is the very evidence for a limited strength gravity.
There is an extreme to gravity but there are no black holes. The Big
Bang proves it!
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
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User: "Autymn D. C."

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 25 Sep 2005 07:03:36 AM
I gave you a link telling you that the big bang and universe are a
white hole, illiterate dolt. So there are black holes as well.
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User: "Nick"

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 25 Sep 2005 11:54:06 PM
So you give it a another name. Doesnt mean you understanding anything
of it!!!
Time runs ultra slow in the beginning.
Show me where I am wrong.
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User: "Autymn D. C."

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 26 Sep 2005 09:10:28 AM
Nick wrote:

So you give it a another name. Doesnt mean you understanding anything
of it!!!

Time runs ultra slow in the beginning.
Show me where I am wrong.

Read your top line, illiterate.
What difference does time's speed make if the gravital field is still a
dipole?
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User: "Sid Bonfire"

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 25 Sep 2005 07:56:54 AM
You wanna see a white hole, just drive through the west side of
Cleveland!
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User: "Sid Bonfire"

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 25 Sep 2005 01:28:06 PM
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User: "Nick"

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 24 Sep 2005 08:24:16 PM
If great motion and great gravity are the mark of the beginning then
the start of the universe was in very slow time. High velocity and high
gravity both slow down time. How slow was the beginning?
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User: "Jan Panteltje"

Title: Re: The escape velocity of the universe: Escaping the gravity of the Big Bang 25 Sep 2005 05:09:59 AM
On a sunny day (24 Sep 2005 16:07:51 -0700) it happened "Nick"
<macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1127603271.577966.67210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

The universe could not expand if the original gravity was infinite.
This is proof that there really are No Black Holes.

Interesting.
'Black hole' refers more to the knowledge about these things I think.
So you are saying if all that mass was compressed in a singularity
(these do not exists anyways) at the start of the (proposed) BB, there could
not exists a process that blew it up?
Considering that our knowledge of these processes at those energy and density
levels is a black hole I'd say I would like to leave it open....
<end scribbling attempt>
mm was it even started... well whatdoyouknow.
Come to think of it, perhaps there was no big bang, and the 'universe' simply condensed out of the 'quantum vacuum' and at 11.25 AM tomorror (UTC) it will evaporate.
Set you VHS and enjoy.
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