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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Dr. Photon"
Date: 13 Jan 2005 10:59:15 AM
Object: The Fibonacci Spiral Sequence Is Found In The Smart Model Line Spectra
guess I should can the following, it's coming in useful already.
I've seen a few people ask about how "real" orbitals are, and could
they ever be measured.
Well they have been measured. Take a look at
"Direct observation of d-orbital holes and Cu-Cu bonding in Cu2O",
J. M. Zuo, M. Kim, M. O'Keeffe & J. C. H. Spence
Nature, volume 401, pp 49-52, September 1999.
The first paragraph is free at
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v401/n6748/abs/401049a0_fs.html
and you can download the full article with subscription. Try to get a
copy somehow, search the author's names, or search for references to
the article.
As a d orbital is much weirder looking than an s orbital (which might
just be measured as a fuzzy blob, for example), then their result is
totally convincing that the orbital shapes exist and are exactly as QM
says they are.
Figure 3 is a beauty.
See also
"Tomographic imaging of molecular orbitals"
J. ITATANI, J. LEVESQUE, D. ZEIDLER, HIROMICHI NIIKURA H. PÉPIN, J. C.
KIEFFER3, P. B. CORKUM & D. M. VILLENEUVE
Nature volume 432, pp 867 - 871, 16 December 2004
where the authors image the molecular N2 bonding orbital. The abstract
is at
http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nature/journal/v432/n7019/abs/nature03183_fs.html
In other words, experiments have been made and not only do orbitals
exist in both atomic and molecular cases, they look just as QM says
they do.
best,
BR
.

User: "Landle"

Title: Re: The Fibonacci Spiral Sequence Is Found In The Smart Model Line Spectra 13 Jan 2005 07:46:55 PM
Dr. Photon wrote:

guess I should can the following, it's coming in useful already.

I've seen a few people ask about how "real" orbitals are, and could
they ever be measured.

Well they have been measured. Take a look at

"Direct observation of d-orbital holes and Cu-Cu bonding in Cu2O",
J. M. Zuo, M. Kim, M. O'Keeffe & J. C. H. Spence
Nature, volume 401, pp 49-52, September 1999.

The first paragraph is free at


http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=3D/nature/journal/v401/n674=
8/abs/401049a0_fs.html


and you can download the full article with subscription. Try to get a
copy somehow, search the author's names, or search for references to
the article.

As a d orbital is much weirder looking than an s orbital (which might
just be measured as a fuzzy blob, for example), then their result is
totally convincing that the orbital shapes exist and are exactly as

QM

says they are.

Figure 3 is a beauty.

See also

"Tomographic imaging of molecular orbitals"
J. ITATANI, J. LEVESQUE, D. ZEIDLER, HIROMICHI NIIKURA H. P=C9PIN, J.

C=2E

KIEFFER3, P. B. CORKUM & D. M. VILLENEUVE
Nature volume 432, pp 867 - 871, 16 December 2004

where the authors image the molecular N2 bonding orbital. The

abstract

is at


http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=3D/nature/journal/v432/n701=
9/abs/nature03183_fs.html


In other words, experiments have been made and not only do orbitals
exist in both atomic and molecular cases, they look just as QM says
they do.

best,

BR

This is big news.
Has anyone read the complete article? Is there no possibility
of misinterpretation like the laser bouncing somewhere else and
taken as outside? Do we finally have solid proof that the electrons
energy levels existing around the nucleus is real?? If so, I hope
one can send a copy to S. Enterprize for his comments as it
may his atomic model final moment. In which case. He can spend
his days on M-theory or other models that revolved around the existence
of electron shells. Can anyone please post the complete article for
the sake of science and truth? If it has solid basis with no
possibility of error, then S. Enterprize has to shut down his
web site and start a new page. Failure to do so is outright
stubbornness hence I'd not object Enterprize stuff to be put
at crank dot net. Let the facts be the judge.
Thanks.
=20
Landle
.


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