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The freefall WTC 7 implies its controlled demolition |
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
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16 Oct 2006 08:38:41 AM |
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<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
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| User: "LEJ Brouwer" |
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| Title: Re: The freefall WTC 7 implies its controlled demolition |
16 Oct 2006 11:34:48 AM |
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DemzRock wrote:
<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
....which does tend to suggest that events were planned well in advance.
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| User: "Vandar" |
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16 Oct 2006 12:15:45 PM |
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LEJ Brouwer wrote:
DemzRock wrote:
<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
...which does tend to suggest that events were planned well in advance.
Keep believing that.
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| User: "malibu" |
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16 Oct 2006 01:58:37 PM |
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LEJ Brouwer wrote:
DemzRock wrote:
<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
...which does tend to suggest that events were planned well in advance.
Workers at the building said there
were power-downs that weekend- which was
unprecedented- and they had been warned at least
three weeks in advance about them.
John
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| User: "Vandar" |
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16 Oct 2006 02:03:11 PM |
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malibu wrote:
LEJ Brouwer wrote:
DemzRock wrote:
<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
...which does tend to suggest that events were planned well in advance.
Workers at the building said there
were power-downs that weekend- which was
unprecedented- and they had been warned at least
three weeks in advance about them.
Wrong.
One person has said there was a partial power down, but that he has no
way of knowing if the power down affected anything outside of his own
office.
Nice try, though.
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| User: "LEJ Brouwer" |
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16 Oct 2006 04:29:35 PM |
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malibu wrote:
LEJ Brouwer wrote:
DemzRock wrote:
<schoenfeld.one@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161005773.162143.265130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Larry Silverstein already admitted they pulled it.
...which does tend to suggest that events were planned well in advance.
Workers at the building said there
were power-downs that weekend- which was
unprecedented- and they had been warned at least
three weeks in advance about them.
John
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501
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| User: "Greg Brown" |
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18 Oct 2006 04:50:44 PM |
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wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
But didn't the magic bullet ricochet?
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| User: "" |
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20 Oct 2006 12:04:45 AM |
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Greg Brown wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
But didn't the magic bullet ricochet?
You might want to take a look at the driver ;-).
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| User: "sal" |
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19 Oct 2006 11:05:39 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:50:44 -0700, Greg Brown wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall from
the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of logical
reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse) a = 9.8
m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
But didn't the magic bullet ricochet?
Last I heard the final word on the tape was that there were two shots,
which might suggest it did not need to ricochet after all, because there
were two of it.
But the tape was so noisy only an acoustics expert would really accept
that claim...
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| User: "" |
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20 Oct 2006 11:30:26 AM |
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wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
Since you haven't got the brains to figure out that conspiracy
theories are not on topic in any of those sci.* newsgroups you
stuffed into the newsgroups header, what makes you think anyone
is going to take you seriously on the contents?
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
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| User: "malibu" |
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20 Oct 2006 11:55:12 AM |
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wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
Since you haven't got the brains to figure out that conspiracy
theories are not on topic in any of those sci.* newsgroups you
stuffed into the newsgroups header, what makes you think anyone
is going to take you seriously on the contents?
Bush is on film saying he saw the first plane hit the
first tower on TV. There was no such thing on public TV.
He must have seen it on private TV.
Case closed. He's complicit.
You guys got a problem that transcends newsgroups, I'm afraid.
:-)
John
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| User: "sal" |
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20 Oct 2006 12:54:13 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:55:12 -0700, malibu wrote:
badd_xi2@yahoo.com wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
Since you haven't got the brains to figure out that conspiracy
theories are not on topic in any of those sci.* newsgroups you stuffed
into the newsgroups header, what makes you think anyone is going to take
you seriously on the contents?
Bush is on film saying he saw the first plane hit the first tower on TV.
There was no such thing on public TV. He must have seen it on private TV.
Case closed. He's complicit.
For reasons which escape me his staff reacted like they had something to
cover up with regard to Bush's actions during the WTC hits.
He was actually videotaped during the incidents and the tape is, or was,
available on line. Bush saw neither one happen in real time. Rather, he
was visiting a school (he's a politician, they do stuff like that) and
he was listening to a child read a story about goats (he's into
education with the NCLB program, you may recall, so he does stuff like
that, too). Someone standing in the classroom taped the whole thing,
because having the president visit the school is a Big Deal, of course;
that's why there is a record of it. His staff informed him of both hits
shortly after they happened (a Man In Black slipped in and whispered in
his ear for a moment after each one).
Subsequently a number of lies were put out regarding what he did
_immediately_ and what he actually saw happen in real time. I don't know
why -- as far as I could see his real actions were neither suspicious nor
reprehensible.
(If anyone has evidence that the "goats video" was faked or mislabeled as
to the time I'd love to hear about it but AFAIK it's on the level.)
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| User: "malibu" |
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21 Oct 2006 10:43:51 AM |
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sal wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:55:12 -0700, malibu wrote:
badd_xi2@yahoo.com wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
Since you haven't got the brains to figure out that conspiracy
theories are not on topic in any of those sci.* newsgroups you stuffed
into the newsgroups header, what makes you think anyone is going to take
you seriously on the contents?
Bush is on film saying he saw the first plane hit the first tower on TV.
There was no such thing on public TV. He must have seen it on private TV.
Case closed. He's complicit.
For reasons which escape me his staff reacted like they had something to
cover up with regard to Bush's actions during the WTC hits.
He was actually videotaped during the incidents and the tape is, or was,
available on line. Bush saw neither one happen in real time. Rather, he
was visiting a school (he's a politician, they do stuff like that) and
he was listening to a child read a story about goats (he's into
education with the NCLB program, you may recall, so he does stuff like
that, too). Someone standing in the classroom taped the whole thing,
because having the president visit the school is a Big Deal, of course;
that's why there is a record of it. His staff informed him of both hits
shortly after they happened (a Man In Black slipped in and whispered in
his ear for a moment after each one).
Subsequently a number of lies were put out regarding what he did
_immediately_ and what he actually saw happen in real time. I don't know
why -- as far as I could see his real actions were neither suspicious nor
reprehensible.
(If anyone has evidence that the "goats video" was faked or mislabeled as
to the time I'd love to hear about it but AFAIK it's on the level.)
Bush on tape:
Child's question:"Mr. President, what went through your head when you
heard that
a plane hit the WTC?"
Bush's answer: "Well, I was waiting to go into the classroom (pre- 9
A.M.)
and I saw a plane hit the building- there must have been a TV on
somewhere-
.....and I thought, uh, pilot error."
There WAS NO TV COVERAGE OF THE FIRST HIT.
Have you not heard him say these words?
He's complicit.
John
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| User: "" |
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21 Oct 2006 05:50:40 AM |
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wrote:
schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
Since you haven't got the brains to figure out that conspiracy
theories are not on topic in any of those sci.* newsgroups you
stuffed into the newsgroups header, what makes you think anyone
is going to take you seriously on the contents?
So, Galileo's law of falling bodies is now reduced to the status of
mere 'conspiracy theory' . Sure, why not, consistent in approach with
the modern "physics" (and with the competence of its "physicists").
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
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16 Oct 2006 04:35:22 PM |
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On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure. This process would have taken several days, and would
have involved a large number of demolition workers. Yet the
tenants and workers never caught on. They just kept coming to
work every day as if everything was normal.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting point
of steel.
Gordon
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16 Oct 2006 10:24:32 PM |
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Gordon wrote:
On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure.
They weren't.
#1: Tenants lodged noise pollution complaints due to drilling/banging
occuring within the structure. One tenant complained about the powdered
cement dust constantly accumulating in his office (from holes drilled
for cutter charges?)
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
The details and specifics of this (along with an thorough objective
analysis of the world trade center destruction) can be seen in the 9/11
Mysteries (video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
This process would have taken several days, and would
have involved a large number of demolition workers. Yet the
tenants and workers never caught on. They just kept coming to
work every day as if everything was normal.
Such statements contradict the empirical.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting point
of steel.
One needs not consider the geometric or material composition of the
structure and/or collapse to deduce that a controlled demolition
occured. One needs only to observe the freefalling kinematics,
understanding that the top floors must've had no resistance as they
descended to the ground, meaning only one thing.
Gordon
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| User: "Vandar" |
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19 Oct 2006 09:37:11 PM |
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wrote:
Gordon wrote:
On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure.
They weren't.
#1: Tenants lodged noise pollution complaints due to drilling/banging
occuring within the structure. One tenant complained about the powdered
cement dust constantly accumulating in his office (from holes drilled
for cutter charges?)
Lie
No cite
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
Lie
No cite
The details and specifics of this (along with an thorough objective
analysis of the world trade center destruction) can be seen in the 9/11
Mysteries (video)
Lie
No insight
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| User: "" |
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19 Oct 2006 10:42:02 PM |
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Vandar wrote:
wrote:
Gordon wrote:
On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure.
They weren't.
#1: Tenants lodged noise pollution complaints due to drilling/banging
occuring within the structure. One tenant complained about the powdered
cement dust constantly accumulating in his office (from holes drilled
for cutter charges?)
Lie
No cite
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
Lie
No cite
The details and specifics of this (along with an thorough objective
analysis of the world trade center destruction) can be seen in the 9/11
Mysteries (video)
Lie
No insight
Please see video reference in previous post. It contains the in-person
interviews with those tenants. Nice day to you.
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| User: "Vandar" |
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| Title: Re: The freefall WTC 7 implies its controlled demolition |
20 Oct 2006 08:32:32 AM |
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wrote:
Vandar wrote:
wrote:
Gordon wrote:
On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure.
They weren't.
#1: Tenants lodged noise pollution complaints due to drilling/banging
occuring within the structure. One tenant complained about the powdered
cement dust constantly accumulating in his office (from holes drilled
for cutter charges?)
Lie
No cite
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
Lie
No cite
The details and specifics of this (along with an thorough objective
analysis of the world trade center destruction) can be seen in the 9/11
Mysteries (video)
Lie
No insight
Please see video reference in previous post. It contains the in-person
interviews with those tenants. Nice day to you.
Being in the video does not make it true.
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| User: "Aluminium Holocene Holodeck Zoroaster" |
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18 Oct 2006 04:46:41 PM |
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what do you mean by "only 3 weeks notice;"
isn't that enough notice for a business to contract-out
for some "transaction-servers?"
I liked the example of emergency oxygen,
yet another of how the biggest bombs ever used
against the tallest (*balanced load*) structures on Earth,
might cause a "demolition." please note, however, that
Usama is reputed to have been surprized at the total collapse,
with all of his construction experience in Afghanistan and Arabia ...
was he merely aiming for that Cantor group in the one tower, and
some other "Jewish organization" in the other?
what I'm saying is that a bit of more work has to be done,
to get all of the energetics ironed-out;
not that there wasn't more than enough energy in those planes,
as compared with a typical, permitted demo.
this is what they call a new problem, totally incomparable
to "fires in skyscrapers never did that!"
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting point
of steel.
One needs not consider the geometric or material composition of the
structure and/or collapse to deduce that a controlled demolition
occured. One needs only to observe the freefalling kinematics,
understanding that the top floors must've had no resistance as they
descended to the ground, meaning only one thing.
thus:
I don't think that you can analyze the in/finitude
of space with Coxeter groups, so,
I propose an alternate title:
The Fifth Suit: the Queen of Infinite Mirrors.
you know, like in Gauss's "the queen of the sciences,"
hyuk-hyuk?
anyway, I'm entitled to make one such silly joke, since
he brushed me off when I phoned him from SMC,
at his home in Toronto, to tell him about tetrahedronometry.
he said, You're thinking of the "polygonometry"
of Petre Schoute. well, no cigar, or struts, in that!
King of Infinite Space: Donald Coxeter, the Man Who Saved Geometry
thus:
dually, isn't that a "Hamiltonian path"
amongst all teh vertices of an icosahedron,
along the edges?...
Hamilton's original such problem was to do it
amongst the 20 vertices of the dodecah.;
thus, "icosasteron."
thus:
note the figure at the end of the paper,
which resolves the puzzle of a "simple ... 6-tendon" tenseg.,
instead of nine!...
it'll take me a while to digest the math,
without that enormous "Eight-of-Nine" wolramiteware, I imagine.
http://www.freewebtown.com/randome/k.a.lazopoulos.tensegrity.doc
thus:
References
Fuller, R. B. (1961) "Tensegrity" Portfolio Artnews Annual 4: 112-127
Connelly, R., Back, A. (1998) "Mathematics and tensegrity" Am.
Scientist
86: 142-151
thus:
funny you should mention The Wheel; unfortunately,
for those of us interested in preinventing it,
_The Bicycle Wheel_ was taken offline & put back in print,
maybe because of our dyscussion of it,
on a Bucky Fuller listserver. anyway, you can see, why,
the Wright bros. were so savvy, knowing this little system,
which we have preliminarily classified in terms
of "tensegrity."...
as for top-posting,
ettiquette is less important than repetitive strain injury
from unneeded "scrolling" --
work it out on your life's palimpsest!...
(that is to say, if you can't follow implications
in a "thread" in written English, there's a class for you
at the local community college: EFL.)
thus:
I discovered this construction while contemplating
a fragment from Diophantus' lost work "On Polygonal
Numbers," which describes a proposition
by the classical Greek geometer Hypsicles:
"There has also been proved what was stated
by Hypsicles in a definition, namely, that 'if
there be as many numbers as we please beginning
from 1 and increasing by the same common difference ...'"
--it takes some to jitterbug!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/Keplerian.W05.pdf
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2006/3322_ethanol_no_science.html
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
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| User: "" |
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16 Oct 2006 08:48:38 PM |
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Gordon wrote:
On 16 Oct 2006 06:36:13 -0700, wrote:
If WTC 7 collapsed in 6 seconds, and it takes 6 seconds to freefall
from the roof of WTC 7, it is true by the transitive property of
logical reasoning that WTC 7 underwent a freefall.
PROPOSITION 1:
It took a total of 6 seconds for the roof of WTC 7 to reach the
ground. This proposition is supported by the empirical,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329
Collapse start time: 17 seconds
Collapse end time: 23 seconds
Total collapse time: 23-17 = 6 seconds
PROPOSITION 2:
A freefall from a height equal to the roof of WTC 7 would take 6
seconds. This proposition derives trivially through (Galilean)
kinematical considerations alone:
Displacement = initial velocity * total time + 1/2 * acceleration *
total time^2
or
s = ut + 1/2at^2
where
s = 174 m (height of building)
u = 0 m/s (building was stationary prior to collapse)
a = 9.8 m/s^2 (since gravitational field strengh averages at a
constant)
Thus,
174 = 0 t + 1/2 9.8 t^2
Solving for t
t = sqrt( 2 * 174 / 9.8)
= 5.9590
~ 6 seconds
Ironically, we do not even need to consider Newtonian physics to deduce
that the WTC 7 collapsed in a freefall. We do not even need Newtonian
physics to understand that such kinematical behavior is the providence
of controlled demolition and only controlled demolition.
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure. This process would have taken several days, and would
have involved a large number of demolition workers. Yet the
tenants and workers never caught on. They just kept coming to
work every day as if everything was normal.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting point
of steel.
Gordon
xxein: You should be the precedent's press secretary.
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| User: "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \dlzc\ N: dlzc1 D:cox" |
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16 Oct 2006 09:09:10 PM |
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Dear xxein:
<xxein@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1161049718.447685.254320@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Gordon wrote:
....
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this,
please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while
the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes
in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure. This process would have taken several days, and
would
have involved a large number of demolition workers. Yet the
tenants and workers never caught on. They just kept coming to
work every day as if everything was normal.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that
the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen
enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting
point
of steel.
xxein: You should be the precedent's press secretary.
I believe that is "president", and if anyone believes that any
government agency functioned *that* day, they are truly deluded.
Anything that worked did so because heros were involved.
David A. Smith
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| User: "The Real Diddy Pop" |
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20 Oct 2006 12:21:16 PM |
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Gordon wrote:
Shoenfeld, if you have the research information on this, please
explain how they kept the tenants and workers pacified while the
demolition workers shoved their furniture around, tore holes in
the walls and installed the explosives onto the steel support
structure. This process would have taken several days, and would
have involved a large number of demolition workers. Yet the
tenants and workers never caught on. They just kept coming to
work every day as if everything was normal.
You'll never get any meaningful response from those conspiracy nut-jobs
because there isn't one. The modern liberal simply cannot deal with
common sense, as so few of them have any.
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