Science > Physics > The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons.
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"Tom Potter" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:43:07 PM |
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The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons. |
As can be seen by their intensity and their methods,
the small gang that profits from General Relativity
is very concerned that the public is becoming aware of
the costs to society of General Relativity.
No doubt, General Relativity is the model of choice,
if one wants to design a time travel machine,
or warp through space machine,
or create worm holes,
or speculate on things beyond man's
capacity to ever experience in time and space,
BUT
if one wants to design things like computers, bridges, mechanisms,
engines,
communications systems and *** GPS Systems ***,
General Relativity is an enormous waste of time, money and resources.
Although any competent systems engineer KNOWS that
General Relativity is not, and was not, essential to the GPS system,
the same small gang that profits
in reputation and income from General Relativity
constantly make such a claim.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/HTML/wrong.html
"GTR isn't working in the GPS": this simply isn't so; see these
papers.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507121
Introducing Relativity in Global Navigation Satellite Systems
Authors: J.-F. Pascual-Sanchez
(Submitted on 28 Jul 2005 (v1), last revised 13 Dec 2006 (this
version, v3))
Abstract: Today, the Global Navigation Satellite Systems, used as
global positioning systems, are the GPS and the GLONASS. They are
based on a Newtonian model and hence they are only operative when
several relativistic effects are taken into account. The most
important relativistic effects (to order 1/c^2) are: the Einstein
gravitational blue shift effect of the satellite clock frequency
(Equivalence Principle of General Relativity) and the Doppler red
shift of second order,
due to the motion of the satellite (Special Relativity).
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html
The Global Positioning System (GPS) uses accurate, stable atomic
clocks in satellites and on the ground to provide world-wide position
and time determination. These clocks have gravitational and motional
frequency shifts which are so large that, without carefully accounting
for numerous relativistic effects, the system would not work.
Note that the GTR charlatans constantly try to con the masses into
thinking
that the effects of distance (Hubble Effect),
velocity (Doppler Effect),
and acceleration (Galileo Effect)
on the frequency of oscillating systems,
are General Relativity effects.
So far, I haven't seen any effort on their part
to claim the GTR must be used to compensate for
temperature, humidity, jerk, snap, crackle and pop effects.
As can be see from reading Chris Hillman's web site,
he aggressively attacks General Relative critics PERSONALLY,
rather than simply demonstrate a few cost effective uses of GTR.
One would think that if the GTR promoters possessed
such powerful, esoteric knowledge, that they would use their
knowledge to make a few billion dollars in the free market,
and they would not have be on the taxpayer's dole.
Note that in trying to discredit GTR critics,
Chris Hillman used the word "crank" more than thirty times,
and used the Web site of an unemployed computer programmer,
who took some data processing classes at a third rate California
college,
as his main reference.
Regarding Chris Hillman's statement:
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"The Politics of Anti-Science
In my view, antiscientific activity by organized political pressure
groups has nothing to do with science or reason.
Rather, such activity is motivated by power and fear.
Fear:
On the one hand, some people fear (sometimes correctly, often not)
that science is somehow directly "contradicting"
the validity of their religious or philosophical convictions, and this
has led some religious groups
to condemn such cornerstones of modern science as the theory of
evolution
and the standard Hot Big Bang model of cosmology,
preferring to stick to the literal truth of the creation story told in
the Bible,
or in more subtle ways to dispute the role of science as an arbiter of
"natural truth".
Power:
Science is universally respected, even by those who fear it, and with
good reason:
almost every citizen of the "developed world" recognizes
that nowadays common citizens live better than kings of old
because of the benefits of technology which grew out of basic
scientific research.
Scientists (and mathematicians) have almost become secular demigods,
and it should be no surprise that those religious and political
groups
which are hostile to science but which do not dare to condemn
scientific activity altogether,
have tried to co-opt scientific theories by claiming that these
theories
somehow "prove" the validity of their religious or political beliefs.
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As can be seen by the logical fallacies used by Chris Hillman
in his efforts to discredit GTR critics,
the GTR gang is motivated by "power and fear"
(And the taxpayer's money),
and although "Science is universally respected",
charlatans who pretend to possess powerful, esoteric knowledge
and cannot demonstrate this in the free market,
ARE NOT.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
rubber rulers and clocks, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
--
Tom Potter
*** Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006 ***
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28 Apr 2007 06:04:23 PM |
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all the people I meet ,,no one offers me meth .
Its dont matter if you dont.. you never talked about anyone normal
,,they are all junkies.
Now if you bought the coconet in tonga we would hear about big titted
blonds with shaved pussies all the time because thats all you'd ever
take home off the street.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: ¡¡ Don't call me a drug addict ! ! ! |
29 Apr 2007 06:33:13 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15405-4633D2F7-488@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net...
all the people I meet ,,no one offers me meth .
That is (mainly) because the only people you meet are your family and mental
health practitioners.
Its dont matter if you dont.. you never talked about anyone normal
,,they are all junkies.
Now if you bought the coconet in tonga we would hear about big titted
blonds with shaved pussies all the time because thats all you'd ever
take home off the street.
Amazing improvement in your spelling.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_=C2=A1=C2=A1_Don't_call_me_a_drug_addict_!_!_!?= |
30 Apr 2007 08:27:40 PM |
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No one offers me meth because
10...... I have bars on my sleves and they dont want thier necks
snapped..
9....There is allways a better class of drunks on deck 4.
8 ...they can tell Im not the type when I crush a full beer on thier
heads.
7.. the pic of the idiot dragging behind the ship as bait " dont *****
the old giant off "
6.. No thanks I had Beth twice.
5.. does she have a twinn ?
4 ,, it would just get lost in there.
3 .. I dont hang with no gang
2 .. my body gards have badges .
the reason they dont give me meth ...
1 .. if they did id feed it to them.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: ¡¡ Don't call me a drug addict ! ! ! |
01 May 2007 03:11:25 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
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No one offers me meth because ...
Your parents wont let you out of their sight...
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Mooches |
01 May 2007 12:25:20 AM |
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Speaking of annoying meth addicts, Dr. Tao,
James was woken up this morning at his squat by a team of cops.
They were shouting at him, pointing their tazers and guns.
The squat doesn't even have a front door, it's wide open.
Then, later in the day, some scruffy old bums got up in his face
over some beers that he had " boosted ", so he pulled his knife.
Both times the cops let him go.
Unfortunately for me, the jails must be crowded.
If I make it to Ohio, it'll be nice to not have these mooches around.
But then, oddly enough... I'd be mooching off you.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: ¡¡ Don't call me a drug addict ! ! ! |
28 Apr 2007 06:20:00 PM |
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In article <15405-4633D2F7-488@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>,
(tj Frazir) wrote:
all the people I meet ,,no one offers me meth .
Its dont matter if you dont.. you never talked about anyone normal
,,they are all junkies.
Now if you bought the coconet in tonga we would hear about big titted
blonds with shaved pussies all the time because thats all you'd ever
take home off the street.
Are you still trying to peddle this nonsense?
--
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken
of the saucerhead high command).
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: What do you mean " _ if _ Relf doesn't do meth... ", Dr. Tao ? |
28 Apr 2007 06:34:30 PM |
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What do you mean " _ if _ Relf doesn't do meth... ", Dr. Tao ?
I don't, and I can prove it at any random time.
Either pay for the fuckin' drug test or shut the ***** up about it.
Unless you hand me an " all expenses paid trip ",
I won't be leaving Seattle, not by choice.
Hell, I might not even do it then.
Where would I live ? how could I rent ? after the trip.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: I didn't bring " Angel " off the streets, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 07:06:16 AM |
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By the way, Dr. Tao, I don't have to go to Tonga to see naked women.
Just today I saw huge, bare tits on a hot 23 year old chick, " Angel ".
She flashed them at me " to change the conversation ".
Further.... I didn't " bring her off the streets ", as you say,
she came with James, shouting outside my window.
I don't invite these people here; in fact, I give them a hard time.
Julie, another 23 year old chick, a Mormon, called me on the phone.
Computers are my " rig ", not needles, not sex, not pills,
not ships-*****-warehouses.
Show me your rig, I'll show you your executor.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Wake 10,000 ton maple $ 15 mil for 30,000 acres |
30 Apr 2007 08:37:37 PM |
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You silly basterds waist all the easy money.
$ 170 ton market
$ 100 ton chipped driftwood
4 million tons wanted in denmark.
2 million tons in holland.
dont ever tell them its driftwood.
Its chipped pines no bark no bleach or additives.
its biomass chips and fuel chips.
Mount st hellens sent 10 million logs down the river out to sea and they
are all on the beach fucking evrything up.
The river went over the banks ad toulk the trees out .
10,000 giants went out to the beach.
On the gulf coast hadwoods line the beach.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Wake 10,000 ton maple $ 15 mil for 30,000 acres |
30 Apr 2007 08:38:04 PM |
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You silly basterds waist all the easy money.
$ 170 ton market
$ 100 ton chipped driftwood
4 million tons wanted in denmark.
2 million tons in holland.
dont ever tell them its driftwood.
Its chipped pines no bark no bleach or additives.
its biomass chips and fuel chips.
Mount st hellens sent 10 million logs down the river out to sea and they
are all on the beach fucking evrything up.
The river went over the banks ad toulk the trees out .
10,000 giants went out to the beach.
On the gulf coast hadwoods line the beach.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Wake 10,000 ton maple $ 15 mil for 30,000 acres |
01 May 2007 03:10:57 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27152-463699FC-116@storefull-3218.bay.webtv.net...
You silly basterds waist all the easy money.
Blah, blah, whine, whine.
Be quiet, child.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: What do you mean " _ if _ Relf doesn't do meth... ", Dr. Tao ? |
28 Apr 2007 06:59:16 PM |
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In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_28_8_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffŠRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
What do you mean " _ if _ Relf doesn't do meth... ", Dr. Tao ?
I don't, and I can prove it at any random time.
Either pay for the fuckin' drug test or shut the ***** up about it.
Unless you hand me an " all expenses paid trip ",
I won't be leaving Seattle, not by choice.
Hell, I might not even do it then.
Where would I live ? how could I rent ? after the trip.
So you do meth then?
--
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
COOSN-174-07-82116: alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken
of the saucerhead high command).
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I suck up to the homeless dudes, not Dr. Tao. |
27 Apr 2007 08:52:07 PM |
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You should be in port clinton in about a week.
whats your phone number ?
suck up to john travolta and get a ride from cleveland to the race on
the 20th.
you can stay with us on the ship.
Ill nead to call you this weekend and give directions befor you leve
that rooming house.
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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| Title: Re: I suck up to the homeless dudes, not Dr. Tao. |
27 Apr 2007 09:33:46 PM |
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On Apr 27, 9:52 pm, (tj Frazir) wrote:
You should be in port clinton in about a week.
whats your phone number ?
In a sane exchange, this would be followed up by an
e-mail contact in which this private information was exchanged
away from the newsgroup.
I predict Jeff will post it online.
suck up to john travolta and get a ride from cleveland to the race on
the 20th.
you can stay with us on the ship.
There is no ship.
Ill nead to call you this weekend and give directions befor you leve
that rooming house.
This phone call will not happen.
- Randy
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
27 Apr 2007 11:15:35 PM |
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I have 580 dollars in cash, but 430 is ear-marked for May's rent.
What if I flew to Ohio, at my expense, and no one was there ?
It'd be like " Idiot ! now you're homeless. ".
Why wouldn't Dr. Tao ( Frazir ) pay my way there ?
Why can't he give me a bent dime ? Why should I pay him ?
Months ago, I posted my bank account number, Randy_Poe,
not just my complete address and phone number.
The bank account is untouched, No one visited or called me.
I'm not posting it again because I don't want to live in Ohio,
I don't care if the 24/7 catering is free and John Travolta
lands his jet there and takes me to Monaco ( for the Grand Prix ).
That ***** don't float my boat.
Seattle is my home, I'm not leaving it, not by choice.
Obviously, Dr. Tao won't pay my way to a _ Shack _ in the Tongass area
and give me free rent, a free internet connection and free food.
But, if he would, only that could draw me away from Seattle.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Test it Post trade leads |
28 Apr 2007 01:28:46 AM |
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Post your deal then and test it.
wake should post 10,000 ton red maple logs for 15 million on contract .
Sell offer
10,000 ton maple logs on contract so 13 mil can pay for the 30,000
acres in maine "
save $5 mil market price .
secure at trade bank usa.
see who is interested .
If some one is interested and will be ..
you can count trees together ,,if he likes you buy forest.
You make a deal and pay cash for the forest and harvest the mans logs.
its no big deal.
11 mil cash buys the forest..
you sold 10,000 ton logs for 15.
No reason wake cant buy the forest.
no reason at all.
You cant harvest untill the land is paiid for.
pay cash and harvest up to 1 %.
got 25000 tree acres cut down 250 acres.
cut 50 there ,,100 there and 100 there.
100 acre maples is overkill and all youd cut is 100 acres .
12,000 maples on the 100 acres.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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28 Apr 2007 01:29:13 AM |
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Post your deal then and test it.
wake should post 10,000 ton red maple logs for 15 million on contract .
Sell offer
10,000 ton maple logs on contract so 13 mil can pay for the 30,000
acres in maine "
save $5 mil market price .
secure at trade bank usa.
see who is interested .
If some one is interested and will be ..
you can count trees together ,,if he likes you buy forest.
You make a deal and pay cash for the forest and harvest the mans logs.
its no big deal.
11 mil cash buys the forest..
you sold 10,000 ton logs for 15.
No reason wake cant buy the forest.
no reason at all.
You cant harvest untill the land is paiid for.
pay cash and harvest up to 1 %.
got 25000 tree acres cut down 250 acres.
cut 50 there ,,100 there and 100 there.
100 acre maples is overkill and all youd cut is 100 acres .
12,000 maples on the 100 acres.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
28 Apr 2007 12:29:29 PM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_27_19_@Cotse.NET...
I have 580 dollars in cash, but 430 is ear-marked for May's rent.
What if I flew to Ohio, at my expense, and no one was there ?
It'd be like " Idiot ! now you're homeless. ".
Instead it is just " Idiot ! You believe Frazir. " .
(I am intrigued why you felt the need to add extra spaces and a spurious
full stop, but I suppose it is just you trying to be "idiosyncratic.")
Why wouldn't Dr. Tao ( Frazir ) pay my way there ?
Because he has no money.
Why can't he give me a bent dime ?
Ditto.
Why should I pay him ?
Because you are stupid.
Months ago, I posted my bank account number, Randy_Poe,
not just my complete address and phone number.
The bank account is untouched, No one visited or called me.
Sadly, this just shows how pathetic you are.
I'm not posting it again because I don't want to live in Ohio,
I don't care if the 24/7 catering is free and John Travolta
lands his jet there and takes me to Monaco ( for the Grand Prix ).
That ***** don't float my boat.
Seattle is my home, I'm not leaving it, not by choice.
Obviously, Dr. Tao won't pay my way to a _ Shack _ in the Tongass area
and give me free rent, a free internet connection and free food.
But, if he would, only that could draw me away from Seattle.
He can't.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
28 Apr 2007 01:52:04 PM |
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T Wake wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_27_19_@Cotse.NET...
I have 580 dollars in cash, but 430 is ear-marked for May's rent.
What if I flew to Ohio, at my expense, and no one was there ?
It'd be like " Idiot ! now you're homeless. ".
Instead it is just " Idiot ! You believe Frazir. " .
(I am intrigued why you felt the need to add extra spaces and a spurious
full stop, but I suppose it is just you trying to be "idiosyncratic.")
Why wouldn't Dr. Tao ( Frazir ) pay my way there ?
Because he has no money.
Why can't he give me a bent dime ?
Ditto.
Why should I pay him ?
Because you are stupid.
Months ago, I posted my bank account number, Randy_Poe,
not just my complete address and phone number.
The bank account is untouched, No one visited or called me.
Sadly, this just shows how pathetic you are.
His numbers are one off. Truth is I emptied the account
and he's too stupid to know.
I'm not posting it again because I don't want to live in Ohio,
I don't care if the 24/7 catering is free and John Travolta
lands his jet there and takes me to Monaco ( for the Grand Prix ).
That ***** don't float my boat.
Seattle is my home, I'm not leaving it, not by choice.
Obviously, Dr. Tao won't pay my way to a _ Shack _ in the Tongass area
and give me free rent, a free internet connection and free food.
But, if he would, only that could draw me away from Seattle.
He can't.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
28 Apr 2007 01:55:06 PM |
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<nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote in message
news:c5088$463397cc$cdd08499$27758@DIALUPUSA.NET...
T Wake wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_27_19_@Cotse.NET...
I have 580 dollars in cash, but 430 is ear-marked for May's rent.
What if I flew to Ohio, at my expense, and no one was there ?
It'd be like " Idiot ! now you're homeless. ".
Instead it is just " Idiot ! You believe Frazir. " .
(I am intrigued why you felt the need to add extra spaces and a spurious
full stop, but I suppose it is just you trying to be "idiosyncratic.")
Why wouldn't Dr. Tao ( Frazir ) pay my way there ?
Because he has no money.
Why can't he give me a bent dime ?
Ditto.
Why should I pay him ?
Because you are stupid.
Months ago, I posted my bank account number, Randy_Poe,
not just my complete address and phone number.
The bank account is untouched, No one visited or called me.
Sadly, this just shows how pathetic you are.
His numbers are one off. Truth is I emptied the account
and he's too stupid to know.
ROTFL. Have you decided what you are going to do with the US$£1.25 you got
off him?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
28 Apr 2007 02:03:29 PM |
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T Wake wrote:
<nonsense@unsettled.com> wrote in message
news:c5088$463397cc$cdd08499$27758@DIALUPUSA.NET...
T Wake wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_27_19_@Cotse.NET...
I have 580 dollars in cash, but 430 is ear-marked for May's rent.
What if I flew to Ohio, at my expense, and no one was there ?
It'd be like " Idiot ! now you're homeless. ".
Instead it is just " Idiot ! You believe Frazir. " .
(I am intrigued why you felt the need to add extra spaces and a spurious
full stop, but I suppose it is just you trying to be "idiosyncratic.")
Why wouldn't Dr. Tao ( Frazir ) pay my way there ?
Because he has no money.
Why can't he give me a bent dime ?
Ditto.
Why should I pay him ?
Because you are stupid.
Months ago, I posted my bank account number, Randy_Poe,
not just my complete address and phone number.
The bank account is untouched, No one visited or called me.
Sadly, this just shows how pathetic you are.
His numbers are one off. Truth is I emptied the account
and he's too stupid to know.
ROTFL. Have you decided what you are going to do with the US$£1.25 you got
off him?
I found a Starbuck's sale and drank it.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Idiot ! now you're homeless. |
28 Apr 2007 12:56:20 AM |
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Youd still have to fly with john .
1 take bus to ohio .
2 ,,fly to monty carlo get on ship.
3 , sail with us till we dump you in alaska at lodge .
3 could be when ever.
or hang in ohio a wile ..
its not like you cant go back to seaside .
russian for seattle ..or seattle is russian for seaside.
like a long vacation .
bring your pc.
you nead exsact directions ..Id have to call.
Id allo have to call if you wanted to go with the logger ship "giant
forest" to alaska summer.
bus to the ship is 1 hour.
you dont want to miss the ballconey party overlooking the race. the
party is at the palace and prince al 2 , branson , gates , allan ,
pair of binocularsa opicals .
Its not a race ,,its the billionaires bash.
fearless in the shade of monaco prince palace.
o *****...dropped my jint over the fuckin side..
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me. |
28 Apr 2007 05:30:01 AM |
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A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me.
I'd tell my landlord good-bye.
I'm not going to Ohio unless you pay my way there
and give me some spending/moving cash. Why Ohio ?
I don't need a mansion and all that, not for 100 a month.
What if John Travolta didn't want to pick me up, Dr. Tao ?
Am I supposed to call him ?
Why don't you give me the cash to fly to Monaco from Seattle ?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me. |
28 Apr 2007 09:24:52 AM |
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Jeff…Relf wrote:
A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me.
I'd tell my landlord good-bye.
I'm not going to Ohio unless you pay my way there
and give me some spending/moving cash. Why Ohio ?
I don't need a mansion and all that, not for 100 a month.
What if John Travolta didn't want to pick me up, Dr. Tao ?
Am I supposed to call him ?
Why don't you give me the cash to fly to Monaco from Seattle ?
Street bums aren't allowed in Monaco.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me. |
28 Apr 2007 06:16:48 PM |
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Id have handed ya a chunk of money BUT now Ive been stabbed in the back
twice ,,so I can call ad give you directions and talk .
Im not letting you use information to write a book or tell the world
where this billionaire is posting and what 1 say.
as soon as you know who I am you would post it ,,unless your renting the
mansion for 100 a month and I dont think youd risk ever giving it up.
Its bad enouph you would know who I am if I called ..
evryone knows who I am but cant conect me with these post .
keep your room 1 more month to tour with MV giant forest .
Youd have the most at the end of our runway in port clinton. you could
get to the ship,,and back and forth to seattle once a month or so.
$ 100,000 richer on mv giant forest.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: A summer in Alaska on " The Giant Forest " sounds best to me. |
29 Apr 2007 06:35:16 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15405-4633D5E0-490@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net...
Id have handed ya a chunk of money BUT now Ive been stabbed in the back
twice ,,so I can call ad give you directions and talk .
Im not letting you use information to write a book or tell the world
where this billionaire is posting and what 1 say.
as soon as you know who I am you would post it ,,unless your renting the
mansion for 100 a month and I dont think youd risk ever giving it up.
Its bad enouph you would know who I am if I called ..
evryone knows who I am but cant conect me with these post .
Yeah, 'cos an 8 foot tall, 2% bodyfat, pot smoking, ship owning billionaire
just blends into the background....
keep your room 1 more month to tour with MV giant forest .
Youd have the most at the end of our runway in port clinton. you could
get to the ship,,and back and forth to seattle once a month or so.
$ 100,000 richer on mv giant forest.
TJ, not only are you lying and delusional, ter stupfid.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Don't tell me anything you don't want everyone to know, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 07:03:29 PM |
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Don't tell me anything you don't want everyone to know, Dr. Tao,
I'm the worst blabber-mouth there is.
I'm not desperate, you don't have to give me anything.
Who knows you better than me ?
I don't see any news reports of a 52 year old, 7'8", Red, billionaire
with oil wells, super-panamax container ships, logging ships,
140 kiloton ships-*****-warehouses and millions of acres.
If it's ok, I'd love to spend a summer on the M.V. Giant Forest
the 100 kilodollars would be nice too, of course.
I'll do whatever I'm told.
You can call me at " 206.525.5196 ", 24/7, but the line is often busy.
I live at: " 4547 19th Ave. N.E. Apt. 17, Seattle, WA 98105 "
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Don't tell me anything you don't want everyone to know, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 06:35:55 AM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_28_9_@Cotse.NET...
Don't tell me anything you don't want everyone to know, Dr. Tao,
I'm the worst blabber-mouth there is.
I'm not desperate, you don't have to give me anything.
Who knows you better than me ?
I don't see any news reports of a 52 year old, 7'8", Red, billionaire
with oil wells, super-panamax container ships, logging ships,
140 kiloton ships-*****-warehouses and millions of acres.
If it's ok, I'd love to spend a summer on the M.V. Giant Forest
the 100 kilodollars would be nice too, of course.
I'll do whatever I'm told.
You can call me at " 206.525.5196 ", 24/7, but the line is often busy.
I live at: " 4547 19th Ave. N.E. Apt. 17, Seattle, WA 98105 "
Priceless.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Don't tell me anything you don't want everyone to know, Dr.Tao. |
30 Apr 2007 08:15:02 PM |
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Do you have another month there ?
I got your number ,,
what day do get evicted ?
why dont you rent the ohio place ??
the harvest vessels dont pull out till june 15.
why not try ohio ,,first month rent free ..
you have 30 friends threw ohio.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Can I just visit Ohio until Giant Forest leaves June 15th ? |
30 Apr 2007 09:49:09 PM |
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Can I just visit Ohio until Giant Forest leaves June 15th ?
I Will Not live there. Will you pay travel expenses ?
What if my PC breaks in travel ? Who are my " 30 friends " in Ohio ?
Yes, I can stay here ( in Seattle ) another month,
I got paid ( for doing nothing ) and my landlord didn't followup on
the " Comply, Vacate or Face Eviction " papers.
People who are getting evicted are telling
tall-tales to my landlord ( Dr. JianXin, an acupuncturist ).
Other than a complaint about
people shouting outside my window at 2 a.m.,
the managers ( not JianXin ) haven't had any complaints.
I keep a tight leash on my vistors, damn near choking them.
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