Science > Physics > The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons.
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"Tom Potter" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:43:07 PM |
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The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons. |
As can be seen by their intensity and their methods,
the small gang that profits from General Relativity
is very concerned that the public is becoming aware of
the costs to society of General Relativity.
No doubt, General Relativity is the model of choice,
if one wants to design a time travel machine,
or warp through space machine,
or create worm holes,
or speculate on things beyond man's
capacity to ever experience in time and space,
BUT
if one wants to design things like computers, bridges, mechanisms,
engines,
communications systems and *** GPS Systems ***,
General Relativity is an enormous waste of time, money and resources.
Although any competent systems engineer KNOWS that
General Relativity is not, and was not, essential to the GPS system,
the same small gang that profits
in reputation and income from General Relativity
constantly make such a claim.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/HTML/wrong.html
"GTR isn't working in the GPS": this simply isn't so; see these
papers.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507121
Introducing Relativity in Global Navigation Satellite Systems
Authors: J.-F. Pascual-Sanchez
(Submitted on 28 Jul 2005 (v1), last revised 13 Dec 2006 (this
version, v3))
Abstract: Today, the Global Navigation Satellite Systems, used as
global positioning systems, are the GPS and the GLONASS. They are
based on a Newtonian model and hence they are only operative when
several relativistic effects are taken into account. The most
important relativistic effects (to order 1/c^2) are: the Einstein
gravitational blue shift effect of the satellite clock frequency
(Equivalence Principle of General Relativity) and the Doppler red
shift of second order,
due to the motion of the satellite (Special Relativity).
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html
The Global Positioning System (GPS) uses accurate, stable atomic
clocks in satellites and on the ground to provide world-wide position
and time determination. These clocks have gravitational and motional
frequency shifts which are so large that, without carefully accounting
for numerous relativistic effects, the system would not work.
Note that the GTR charlatans constantly try to con the masses into
thinking
that the effects of distance (Hubble Effect),
velocity (Doppler Effect),
and acceleration (Galileo Effect)
on the frequency of oscillating systems,
are General Relativity effects.
So far, I haven't seen any effort on their part
to claim the GTR must be used to compensate for
temperature, humidity, jerk, snap, crackle and pop effects.
As can be see from reading Chris Hillman's web site,
he aggressively attacks General Relative critics PERSONALLY,
rather than simply demonstrate a few cost effective uses of GTR.
One would think that if the GTR promoters possessed
such powerful, esoteric knowledge, that they would use their
knowledge to make a few billion dollars in the free market,
and they would not have be on the taxpayer's dole.
Note that in trying to discredit GTR critics,
Chris Hillman used the word "crank" more than thirty times,
and used the Web site of an unemployed computer programmer,
who took some data processing classes at a third rate California
college,
as his main reference.
Regarding Chris Hillman's statement:
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"The Politics of Anti-Science
In my view, antiscientific activity by organized political pressure
groups has nothing to do with science or reason.
Rather, such activity is motivated by power and fear.
Fear:
On the one hand, some people fear (sometimes correctly, often not)
that science is somehow directly "contradicting"
the validity of their religious or philosophical convictions, and this
has led some religious groups
to condemn such cornerstones of modern science as the theory of
evolution
and the standard Hot Big Bang model of cosmology,
preferring to stick to the literal truth of the creation story told in
the Bible,
or in more subtle ways to dispute the role of science as an arbiter of
"natural truth".
Power:
Science is universally respected, even by those who fear it, and with
good reason:
almost every citizen of the "developed world" recognizes
that nowadays common citizens live better than kings of old
because of the benefits of technology which grew out of basic
scientific research.
Scientists (and mathematicians) have almost become secular demigods,
and it should be no surprise that those religious and political
groups
which are hostile to science but which do not dare to condemn
scientific activity altogether,
have tried to co-opt scientific theories by claiming that these
theories
somehow "prove" the validity of their religious or political beliefs.
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As can be seen by the logical fallacies used by Chris Hillman
in his efforts to discredit GTR critics,
the GTR gang is motivated by "power and fear"
(And the taxpayer's money),
and although "Science is universally respected",
charlatans who pretend to possess powerful, esoteric knowledge
and cannot demonstrate this in the free market,
ARE NOT.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
rubber rulers and clocks, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
--
Tom Potter
*** Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006 ***
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://www.frappr.com/tompotter
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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13 Apr 2007 07:25:32 AM |
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In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_13_5_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Hi Puddleduck,
It's harder to lose weight than it is to earn less money.
Neither will be a problem for you soon.
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Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: T.J., send me the papers and I'll sign them. |
10 Apr 2007 12:55:22 PM |
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dear MR Bank.
71 cent aluminum ingots
want 100,000 tons.
please lend 75 % usa market price 100,000 ton 136 cent pound.
90 days FOD usa port delivery .
Ex-Im Bank :: Contact Us
Address:http://www.exim.gov/contact/contactus.cfm
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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| Title: Re: T.J., send me the papers and I'll sign them. |
10 Apr 2007 05:36:35 AM |
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On Apr 10, 3:34 am, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Hi T.J., You asked,
" You might work 40 hours a week for 35 grand year
but you wount 1/2 ***** a week for 20 million =BF=BF
Whats up with that =BF ".
I prefer my job and the money doesn't interest me.
All the same, I'll let you do a trade using my name.
Just send me the papers and I'll sign them.
You will never receive mail from TJ.
You will never receive e-mail from TJ.
You will never talk on the phone to TJ.
You will never meet TJ.
And you certainly will never receive money from TJ, as he
doesn't have any.
- Randy
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: T.J., send me the papers and I'll sign them. |
10 Apr 2007 08:13:51 AM |
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But if he calls the trade bank ONCE randy or emails the bank..POELOCK...
I dont nead to send jeff *****..because jeff has a brain and if he dont
use it AND talk to the bank HES too stupid to be helped.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: If it taught me something about shipping. |
10 Apr 2007 05:58:29 AM |
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Hi Randy_Poe, If T.J. sent me some papers to sign,
and it taught me something about shipping... that'd be cool.
I'd be pissed if someone got harmed by that,
but at least I'd have learned something new.
You concluded, " And you certainly will never receive money from TJ,
as he doesn't have any. ".
Opinion noted ( many times over ). This is not about the money.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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10 Apr 2007 11:00:40 AM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_10_1_@Cotse.NET...
<snip drivel>
Jeff, I hear congratulations are in order.
msgid: pan.2007.04.10.08.42.28.291871@meow.fuckhead made me smile on your
behalf.
Well Done Jeff.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: T.J. just adds up. |
09 Apr 2007 09:32:32 PM |
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In article <24830-461AEFE6-519@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>,
(tj Frazir) wrote:
NONE of you can dispute my handing of any trade or my hunting ability.
In fact Im fucking brilliant and your a stupid fucks.
BWAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
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Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.
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| User: "" |
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09 Apr 2007 06:56:36 PM |
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On Apr 9, 5:52 pm, wrote:
On Apr 9, 1:49 pm, Art Deco <e...@caballista.org> wrote:
<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 10:01 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamt...@frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
"John "C"" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-48CBF9.17233409042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_9_...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
He talks to his lawyers about my situation and tells me what they
said.
He loves, loves, Loves huge ships, mega-trades, Wal-Mart,
the Export/Import Banks of the U.S. and Japan, etc. It just adds up.
To someone with no social skills, perhaps. To most people, he's a little
kid.
You just wish that you were human, don't ya, Deco sock-puppet?
Hey you wacko.
Can't you stop crossposting please?
Noone wants to read your crap and your personal bickering.- Hide quoted text
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- Show quoted text -
You actually like Art Deco, or is it just his lips and private parts
that you like?
So Brad, it looks like you are brushing up on your gay lames now.
Cyber-terrorism is not allowed. It is crimes against humanity. You can
output all the famous dumb Google laugh of supremacy, one that
'enjoys' putting loosers to their Mercy.
Nobody should be put to another's Mercy.
Running a group that most would not be members to and using it
for discriminative labeling as fascists did to jews violates the
deepest
human rights.
You can say you have freedom of speech but history proves it
otherwise.
Criminal supremacy meets history, humanity has it's memories
of horrible crimes and confiscations.
Human treatment, criminal repression, violations of human rights,
supremacy and torture prison, psychotic abduction, victimization,
cruelty, obsessive pursuit toward a group, blackmailing privacy,
addictive torture supremacy, cyber-terrorism, crimes against
humanity for racist victimization.
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| User: "" |
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09 Apr 2007 07:09:47 PM |
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He talks to his lawyers about my situation and tells me what they
said.
He loves, loves, Loves huge ships, mega-trades, Wal-Mart,
the Export/Import Banks of the U.S. and Japan, etc. It just adds up.
To someone with no social skills, perhaps. To most people, he's a little
kid.
You just wish that you were human, don't ya, Deco sock-puppet?
Hey you wacko.
Can't you stop crossposting please?
Noone wants to read your crap and your personal bickering.- Hide quoted text
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- Show quoted text -
You actually like Art Deco, or is it just his lips and private parts
that you like?
So Brad, it looks like you are brushing up on your gay lames now.
Cyber-terrorism is not allowed. It is crimes against humanity. You can
output all the famous dumb Google laugh of supremacy, one that
'enjoys' putting loosers to their Mercy.
Nobody should be put to another's Mercy.
Running a group that most would not be members to and using it
for discriminative labeling as fascists did to jews violates the
deepest
human rights.
You can say you have freedom of speech but history proves it
otherwise.
Criminal supremacy meets history, humanity has it's memories
of horrible crimes and confiscations.
Human treatment, criminal repression, violations of human rights,
supremacy and torture prison, psychotic abduction, victimization,
cruelty, obsessive pursuit toward a group, blackmailing privacy,
addictive torture supremacy, cyber-terrorism, crimes against
humanity for racist victimization.
Will not be allowed.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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09 Apr 2007 04:27:51 PM |
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On Apr 9, 10:35 am, wrote:
On Apr 9, 10:01 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamt...@frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
"John "C"" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-48CBF9.17233409042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_9_...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
He talks to his lawyers about my situation and tells me what they
said.
He loves, loves, Loves huge ships, mega-trades, Wal-Mart,
the Export/Import Banks of the U.S. and Japan, etc. It just adds up.
To someone with no social skills, perhaps. To most people, he's a little
kid.
You just wish that you were human, don't ya, Deco sock-puppet?
Hey you wacko.
Can't you stop crossposting please?
Noone wants to read your crap and your personal bickering.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You actually like Art Deco, or is it just his lips and private parts
that you like?
-
Brad Guth
We don't like you either, loon.
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| User: "John \C" |
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09 Apr 2007 04:53:48 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176154071.532098.278980@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 9, 10:35 am, wrote:
On Apr 9, 10:01 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamt...@frankenexpress.de>
wrote:
"John "C"" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com> wrote in
message
news:phineaspuddleduck-48CBF9.17233409042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_9_...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
He talks to his lawyers about my situation and tells me what
they
said.
He loves, loves, Loves huge ships, mega-trades, Wal-Mart,
the Export/Import Banks of the U.S. and Japan, etc. It just adds
up.
To someone with no social skills, perhaps. To most people, he's a
little
kid.
You just wish that you were human, don't ya, Deco sock-puppet?
Hey you wacko.
Can't you stop crossposting please?
Noone wants to read your crap and your personal bickering.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You actually like Art Deco, or is it just his lips and private parts
that you like?
-
Brad Guth
We don't like you either, loon.
Real progress has been made here today!
HJ
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: T.J. WHO will make 10 mil YOU ? |
09 Apr 2007 09:37:24 PM |
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any one oof you fuckers wana tangle with 10 million bucks lets waltz.
find 10,000 tons 50 cent pound pofit.
Im the best on this planet.
now at 2 bil year profit.
im at 14 billion.
I spent 4 . I made 18 billion .
Im the planets richest trader.
I put 150 million in this ng My boans I didnt want but found,, wile I
cranked a billion.
You fuckers should have done my throw aways .
You idiots blue 150 million of your own money because i posted the buyer
and seller and showed 150 millionprofit on the trades in less then 30
days wile I newtraded 30 days.
1 ***** of a way to find out who has the balls and who dont.
8 of you ??
8 traders should do ( you ) with my help about 250 million profit in 30
days.
I cant post a looser..the 50 cent pound or more profit between buyer
selle pice quote must show.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: T.J. WHO will make 10 mil YOU ? |
10 Apr 2007 10:37:49 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:24830-461AF864-524@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...
any one oof you fuckers wana tangle with 10 million bucks lets waltz.
If you had 10 bucks I'd be surprised, let alone 10 million of them.
As you seem to hinge the majority of your nonsense on your status as a
"Giant, Red Indian-Russian, Billionaire, who lives on a ship" then some
evidence is required.
You may notice that the only person who for one second believes your claims
is Relf. This says a lot - both about the ridiculous nature of your claims,
and relf.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: T.J. WHO will make 10 mil YOU ? |
10 Apr 2007 08:51:23 AM |
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I could find a 100 ton log on the beach ..on line in a pic some one else
toulk.
Thats 200,000 bucks sitting there and idiots might see it and get thier
pic standing on it.
They should have called for a tug and spent 20 grand pulling it to the
buyer after the buyer paid 1/2 .
The tug wount understand what you did ,,he will make his money and want
more and tell you where another one is after he pulled the first one to
the buyer.
He didnt undestand how you sold the log or for how much .
Hes too stupid to sell a log and gives youlogs s you'll pay himto pull
the fuckers.
People are retarted ignorant and stupid.
They get thier pic standing on a log worth 500,000 bucks and take a bus
back to thier shack.
OH look at all the driftwood ,,some chuckle head moans ,,LOOK at the
barked soaked soft wood ready to be soft white pulp at 700 bucks a ton
!!
300 bucks a ton when 2 ton of driftwood makes a $700 ton of pulp.
170 buck ton woodchip no bark.
deligate it in a week and it will run its self forever.
My mill runs I dont run it.
what they steel comes out of thier bonas.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: T.J. WHO will make 10 mil YOU ? |
10 Apr 2007 10:45:32 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9406-461B965B-85@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net...
I could find a 100 ton log on the beach ..on line in a pic some one else
toulk.
Strange how you never seem able to take pics yourself, isn't it?
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 05:21:40 AM |
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Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
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| User: "T Wake" |
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12 Apr 2007 04:21:41 PM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET...
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
Of what, weasel boy?
You may want to take a trip down memory lane (Google in your case) and
review the outstanding questions I have asked of you before you start
demanding I jump to your requests though.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
12 Apr 2007 04:25:23 PM |
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In article <JKqdnWWcU7F4P4PbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET...
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
Of what, weasel boy?
You may want to take a trip down memory lane (Google in your case) and
review the outstanding questions I have asked of you before you start
demanding I jump to your requests though.
Oh God - the great Cosmology Relf-spnak of 2006. Good old days indeed.
--
Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
12 Apr 2007 04:59:51 PM |
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-732F67.22252312042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <JKqdnWWcU7F4P4PbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET...
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
Of what, weasel boy?
You may want to take a trip down memory lane (Google in your case) and
review the outstanding questions I have asked of you before you start
demanding I jump to your requests though.
Oh God - the great Cosmology Relf-spnak of 2006. Good old days indeed.
I like the way Jeff tries to bring back some of the nonsense he got hooped
over last year, and it is especially entertaining how he continues to demand
/others/ post "some physics..."
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| User: "John \C" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
12 Apr 2007 05:22:14 PM |
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"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
I like the way Jeff tries to bring back some of the nonsense he got hooped
over last year, and it is especially entertaining how he continues to
demand
/others/ post "some physics..."
Gee that really sounds like the way PhineAss T. operates.
HJ
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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12 Apr 2007 05:16:09 PM |
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In article <XbWdnYITO6xFNoPbnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-732F67.22252312042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <JKqdnWWcU7F4P4PbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET...
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
Of what, weasel boy?
You may want to take a trip down memory lane (Google in your case) and
review the outstanding questions I have asked of you before you start
demanding I jump to your requests though.
Oh God - the great Cosmology Relf-spnak of 2006. Good old days indeed.
I like the way Jeff tries to bring back some of the nonsense he got hooped
over last year, and it is especially entertaining how he continues to demand
/others/ post "some physics..."
I'm still waiting for his metric.
--
Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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13 Apr 2007 07:07:22 AM |
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-08779E.23160912042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <XbWdnYITO6xFNoPbnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-732F67.22252312042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <JKqdnWWcU7F4P4PbnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET...
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
Of what, weasel boy?
You may want to take a trip down memory lane (Google in your case) and
review the outstanding questions I have asked of you before you start
demanding I jump to your requests though.
Oh God - the great Cosmology Relf-spnak of 2006. Good old days indeed.
I like the way Jeff tries to bring back some of the nonsense he got
hooped
over last year, and it is especially entertaining how he continues to
demand
/others/ post "some physics..."
I'm still waiting for his metric.
Fortunately you are wise enough to *not* be holding your breath...
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 06:47:07 AM |
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In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
In his photo album?
Under the stairs?
Wow, a real mystery!
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Got mail? I did ;-) Three and counting.
Got proof? Not yet, still waiting.
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| User: "John \C" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 06:01:22 PM |
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-ADC5C1.12470711042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
In his photo album?
Under the stairs?
Wow, a real mystery!
Attempt at humor, noted.
HJ
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 07:00:43 PM |
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Google Image Result for
http://3dparks.wr.usgs.gov/olympic/images/oly463.jpg
Address:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3dparks.wr.usgs.gov/olympic/images/oly463.jpg&imgrefurl=http://3dparks.wr.usgs.gov/olympic/html2/oly463.htm&h=600&w=800&sz=540&tbnid=ymNk_rdNRj5c7M:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143&hl=en&start=21&um=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwashington%2Bdriftwood%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DISO-8859-1%26sa%3DN
a few real nice pices evry 200 feet.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 06:54:15 PM |
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driftwood_fort.JPG
Address:http://lsa.uoregon.edu/lsa/pictures05/driftwood_fort.JPG
Changed:2:17 PM on Wednesday, August 24, 2005
pines ..soft white pulp chips 210 ton.
You can sell this by showing the buyer .
You can make a deal on driftwood for pulp.
or just grind pulp and take 720 ton.
or go another step and make tolet pape for 1800 ton.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
11 Apr 2007 06:47:57 PM |
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giant driftwood - Google Image Search
Address:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=giant+driftwood&oe=ISO-8859-1&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
page 1 .
Page 3 .
I might see one down the beach ..
but these are oaks nice english oaks.
10 ton each 10 of these stumps is 1 pull 100 ton ..easy pull too.
1000 bucks each at the mill .
Google Image Result for
http://www.airninja.com/pictures/olympic_national_park/driftwood1.jpg
Address:http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.airninja.com/pictures/olympic_national_park/driftwood1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.airninja.com/pictures/olympic_national_park/driftwood1.htm&h=453&w=600&sz=77&tbnid=sTa6wadRlfs6XM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=6&um=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dseattle%2Bdriftwood%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DISO-8859-1
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
12 Apr 2007 04:48:56 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
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giant driftwood - Google Image Search
Address:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=giant+driftwood&oe=ISO-8859-1&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
By Toutatis, you are stupid.
Do you even know what the photos you google are taken of?
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Where are your pictures, T_Wake ? |
12 Apr 2007 04:22:30 PM |
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:phineaspuddleduck-ADC5C1.12470711042007@news.octanews.com...
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_11_6_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Where are your pictures, T_Wake ?
In his photo album?
Under the stairs?
Wow, a real mystery!
Maybe Relf has finally come out and thinks this is some text version of
Faceparty or something....
Do I finally have a stalker?
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: I found T_Wake's picture. |
12 Apr 2007 12:01:07 AM |
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Never mind Puddleduck, I found T_Wake's picture:
www.KwasOnline.COM/images/mange%20skin%20infection%206.JPG
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