Science > Physics > The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons.
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"Tom Potter" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:43:07 PM |
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The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons. |
As can be seen by their intensity and their methods,
the small gang that profits from General Relativity
is very concerned that the public is becoming aware of
the costs to society of General Relativity.
No doubt, General Relativity is the model of choice,
if one wants to design a time travel machine,
or warp through space machine,
or create worm holes,
or speculate on things beyond man's
capacity to ever experience in time and space,
BUT
if one wants to design things like computers, bridges, mechanisms,
engines,
communications systems and *** GPS Systems ***,
General Relativity is an enormous waste of time, money and resources.
Although any competent systems engineer KNOWS that
General Relativity is not, and was not, essential to the GPS system,
the same small gang that profits
in reputation and income from General Relativity
constantly make such a claim.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/HTML/wrong.html
"GTR isn't working in the GPS": this simply isn't so; see these
papers.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507121
Introducing Relativity in Global Navigation Satellite Systems
Authors: J.-F. Pascual-Sanchez
(Submitted on 28 Jul 2005 (v1), last revised 13 Dec 2006 (this
version, v3))
Abstract: Today, the Global Navigation Satellite Systems, used as
global positioning systems, are the GPS and the GLONASS. They are
based on a Newtonian model and hence they are only operative when
several relativistic effects are taken into account. The most
important relativistic effects (to order 1/c^2) are: the Einstein
gravitational blue shift effect of the satellite clock frequency
(Equivalence Principle of General Relativity) and the Doppler red
shift of second order,
due to the motion of the satellite (Special Relativity).
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html
The Global Positioning System (GPS) uses accurate, stable atomic
clocks in satellites and on the ground to provide world-wide position
and time determination. These clocks have gravitational and motional
frequency shifts which are so large that, without carefully accounting
for numerous relativistic effects, the system would not work.
Note that the GTR charlatans constantly try to con the masses into
thinking
that the effects of distance (Hubble Effect),
velocity (Doppler Effect),
and acceleration (Galileo Effect)
on the frequency of oscillating systems,
are General Relativity effects.
So far, I haven't seen any effort on their part
to claim the GTR must be used to compensate for
temperature, humidity, jerk, snap, crackle and pop effects.
As can be see from reading Chris Hillman's web site,
he aggressively attacks General Relative critics PERSONALLY,
rather than simply demonstrate a few cost effective uses of GTR.
One would think that if the GTR promoters possessed
such powerful, esoteric knowledge, that they would use their
knowledge to make a few billion dollars in the free market,
and they would not have be on the taxpayer's dole.
Note that in trying to discredit GTR critics,
Chris Hillman used the word "crank" more than thirty times,
and used the Web site of an unemployed computer programmer,
who took some data processing classes at a third rate California
college,
as his main reference.
Regarding Chris Hillman's statement:
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"The Politics of Anti-Science
In my view, antiscientific activity by organized political pressure
groups has nothing to do with science or reason.
Rather, such activity is motivated by power and fear.
Fear:
On the one hand, some people fear (sometimes correctly, often not)
that science is somehow directly "contradicting"
the validity of their religious or philosophical convictions, and this
has led some religious groups
to condemn such cornerstones of modern science as the theory of
evolution
and the standard Hot Big Bang model of cosmology,
preferring to stick to the literal truth of the creation story told in
the Bible,
or in more subtle ways to dispute the role of science as an arbiter of
"natural truth".
Power:
Science is universally respected, even by those who fear it, and with
good reason:
almost every citizen of the "developed world" recognizes
that nowadays common citizens live better than kings of old
because of the benefits of technology which grew out of basic
scientific research.
Scientists (and mathematicians) have almost become secular demigods,
and it should be no surprise that those religious and political
groups
which are hostile to science but which do not dare to condemn
scientific activity altogether,
have tried to co-opt scientific theories by claiming that these
theories
somehow "prove" the validity of their religious or political beliefs.
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As can be seen by the logical fallacies used by Chris Hillman
in his efforts to discredit GTR critics,
the GTR gang is motivated by "power and fear"
(And the taxpayer's money),
and although "Science is universally respected",
charlatans who pretend to possess powerful, esoteric knowledge
and cannot demonstrate this in the free market,
ARE NOT.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
rubber rulers and clocks, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
--
Tom Potter
*** Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006 ***
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| Title: Re: Frazir, There might be a lot more too it than you think. |
18 May 2007 02:08:24 PM |
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You had 20 million in front of you for a few years...you wount take it.
There might not be as much to it as you think.
Again your spouting off ***** ,,,why the ***** you ask ME ?
WHY THE ***** ARE YOU ASKING ME ????
You ask the fucking bank you stupid sonofabitch.
ask the bank stupid
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YOU ALLREADY know what the bank will say dont you !!! You allredy know
10 % of what you spent is terrif and can get the customs quote from
customs ,,,they got a web page too stupid.
You know what the import bank will do because you read some of it.
You know where to get a ship charter and quote and insurance quote
$3500 per mil.
You know evrything stupid.
Like bill gates said,,,bizz is easy ,,not compicated.
If it was imposible a 16 year old 15 years befor the www worked ,,with
the library of compaines search buyers and sellers and price by mail.
Its the oldest millionaire machine on earth..trading is .
Now days I use google trade leads .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Daimler's Big ***** F_ck Up. |
16 May 2007 03:45:14 PM |
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copper coming off the boat.
You do the dry milk trade this week or else.
Im loading dry milk and Im going to buy so you get it this week and
make thee money Im buying whats left.
Im buying all the dry milk left to be found.
Ill sell 1 hold at a time 10,000 ton .
Ill load up to 300,000 ton if i can find it.
$2500 ton .
Take thee easy ***** money dumbasses..
trade the ***** out of dry milk befor I do.
Ill buy the ndm all up.
Ill make 75 cent pound
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: You have 3s and 8s I have AAAAAA |
16 May 2007 03:52:53 PM |
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trader ,,,gets to see all the cards and only bet on the winning hand.
The buyer sees 1/2 the hand the seller sees 1/2 the hand and you let the
trade bank see who will winn befor you bet on the hand.
if not a good hand ,,,draw all new cards or 1/2 the hand.
look at all the cards again and see who winns ..
only bet on the winners .
I might toss out 20 hands for evry winning hand.
I dont gamble ..
I get paid befor I load the boat.
I sold that load befor I loaded it..
or I use my own money and load the boat and wait till the buyers prices
hit my sell funny button.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: What'll this 26 gigadollars be worth 9 years from now ? |
16 May 2007 02:56:24 PM |
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the news may be a week behind poelock
# 2 the only investers name to be known is the groups front man
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: What'll this 26 gigadollars be worth 9 years from now ? |
16 May 2007 03:09:32 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23609-464B61E8-1@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net...
the news may be a week behind poelock
# 2 the only investers name to be known is the groups front man
Thought you were going to *****? Why are you still here?
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| User: "Ben newsam" |
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| Title: Re: I compete with myself, to reach _ My _ goals. |
17 May 2007 02:56:10 PM |
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 23:27:53 -0400, (tj
Frazir) wrote:
There is no reaon you dont do 1 trade and make 10 million after I posted
boath buyer and seller and the bank and charter on 40 mil a year profit
What you fail to understand (and have probably not experienced) is
that banks only lend money to you if you can prove you don't need it.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I compete with myself, to reach _ My _ goals. |
17 May 2007 04:33:13 PM |
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$ 4000 ton usa ndm price.
$ 2000 ton brazil if you shop.
10,000 ton offers to buy ..UK buying for iraq.
4 load year.
saudi 10,000 ton offers to buy
dubia ,,of all places 20,000 ton offerr to buy.
HongKong 7000 ton load offers to buy 4 times year.
Ive got 80 mil a year floating ndm.
Im not doing more...so ave ***** at it.
The #1 hottest trade deal on earth is dry milk UK buys for iraq .
open and hot.
I posted buyers and the sellers at thier quoted price too.
I yanked 10 million buck profit loads as I allways find 50 cents a pound
and load the biggest boat I can sell befor I buy.
15 billion .
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 May 2007 08:54:18 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29353-464CCA19-172@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
Ive got 80 mil a year floating ndm.
Im not doing more...so ave ***** at it.
Why do you feel compelled to lie on USENET?
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: I compete with myself, to reach _ My _ goals. |
17 May 2007 04:23:25 PM |
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Banks ??
The import export bank of the united states .
The bank will only except the money it secures from the buyer.
You show the bank the buyer and seller and 10 mil left for you.
The bank secures the buyers money and lends you money .
ASK the bank. not the corner bank..
only the trade bank.
Export-Import Bank of the United States
Address:http://www.exim.gov/ Changed:5:21 PM on Thursday, May 17, 2007
ask the finance page..
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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13 May 2007 04:28:04 PM |
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Significant World Business Leaders Using or Based in Bermuda
Address:http://bermuda-online.org/intexecs.htm Changed:4:44 AM on
Wednesday, May 9, 2007
its a small town ..
not evryone is on the list.
but evryone sees bermuda once year and a nice block party.
tucker town block party ..
the most powerfull party on earth.
top 300 people attend.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: An all-expenses paid " science voyage " ? |
12 May 2007 08:22:46 PM |
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You never offered me an all-expenses-paid " science voyage ",
Giant John. You wrote, " omegaventure was .5 megatons not .1. ".
You can't find a link for that, I assume.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: Giant John, Why not give us a paid vacation instead ? |
12 May 2007 07:38:13 PM |
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In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_May_12_3_@Cotse.NET>,
JeffRelf <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Seeing as you're a money machine and all, Giant John,
and no one here is willing to borrow from the trade bank,
...Why not give us a paid vacation instead ?
I thought you didn't panhandle, deadbeat...
--
COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Scaling back Giant John's expectations. |
12 May 2007 08:14:01 PM |
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Maybe Giant John could teach us something via a " paid vacation ",
he wouldn't be _ Totally _ wasting his cash,
just scaling back his expectations.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Scaling back Giant John's expectations. |
12 May 2007 08:34:17 PM |
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On May 12, 6:14 pm, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Maybe Giant John could teach us something via a " paid vacation ",
he wouldn't be _ Totally _ wasting his cash,
just scaling back his expectations.
The only thing "giant john" can teach is the depths of which a fantasy
life can lead.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Scaling back Giant John's expectations. |
12 May 2007 09:07:54 PM |
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a semester at sea volinteer ??
send 10,000 ton dry milk so 2 million kids have milk ,,make 10 mil..Ill
sell ya a town house on the big boat for 100,000 ,,,save 5 million.
or buy the forest ,,contracted against 10,000 ton maple ,,contract the
cutters and ship it the ***** out ,, buy the same townhouse on tis big
boat for $ 5 mil. at 1 mil down 1 mil a year for 4 years.
a ride aound te planet with us is worth 1 mil a year.
you name it you get it...they will get you hookers ,,,pot...any fucking
thing you ever want.
The crew can get anything anywhere anytime.
You want a vacation ??
work 1 week for real amd send 10,000 ton dry milk from brazil at 2000
ton to irac at 3000 ton.
uk is buyer.
The vacation would be 10 million bucks ,,about 7 after tax and
evrything ..free clear 7 mil.
have some balls ,,ya got a week ,,,you waist week after week.
Ask the finance page to work with you.
ask the help page to help you with this trade.
the bank will help you secure and exicute this trade.
$10,000,000 usd.
$ 2000 brazil quote .
$ 3500 uk buyer quote.
USA trade bank
they cant say no....
1 ,,your ecomomicly qualified...you ccant fail the gov backs you up 110
%.
2.. the fed is begging people to trade..
3.. if you dont you dont get *****.
you CAN so do it.
$ 10,000,000 just do it.
put your fear behind you..dont tell no lies ,,do the math budget ,,use
the finance page ..
boath quotes ...and budget ,,charter ,,tax evrything and you will have
your 7 mil clear ...and a big chunk of that the same day you traded.
in a week ,,you can hold 500 grand in you hand and in 5 weeks hold the
6.6 mil left in your hand.
IF you do it...you get to feal you own feet on the gound and evything
is right with self.
IF you dont and I hand it over...were boath fools and will forever be
fools rich or poor.
Do it for your self and evryone you care about or will care about.
After you have $ 10,000,000 no one calls you chump ! You can sit in
the front row at barret car aution and by ya a putter.
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: Scaling back Giant John's expectations. |
12 May 2007 09:15:36 PM |
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In article <9627-464672FA-789@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>,
(tj Frazir) wrote:
You want a vacation ??
work 1 week for real amd send 10,000 ton dry milk from brazil at 2000
ton to irac at 3000 ton.
uk is buyer.
Best save up your pocket money, perhaps wash some cars this summer too?
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COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Scaling back Giant John's expectations. |
12 May 2007 10:18:59 PM |
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40 million in the deal.
10 mil for ya per load.
give the sselle a 200 buck from 2000 to 2200 a ton raze for a 4 load per
1 year deal ..give 10,000 ton buyer a 40,000 ton year 10,000 ton per
load.
You want $ 40 million from me you earn it.
Ill make that 40 mil real real easy.
Thats not 40 million in play money.
Thats 40 million usd ,,,,,fools.
DONT GET STUPID ,,,get rich .
ring my ringger buzz ,,yes capitons ..
I said bring be up a big fat bud please..
Yes sir the tiny voise at the other end replys.
she got tray of pipes ..20 nice buds..
juce drinks , and the new black chery tobacco ( salt my bud with blunt
black cherry ..
bogee taist of the day..
flavor of the day packed in the pipe..
6..10 am ..
sun came up wile I pack the pipe ,,greese 2000 year old sillowetts over
the morining still on the bay.
The smell of baccon from town homes.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Giant John, Why not give us a paid vacation instead ? |
12 May 2007 07:45:49 PM |
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On May 12, 5:38 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_May_12...@Cotse.NET>,
Jeff=C5=A0Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Seeing as you're a money machine and all, Giant John,
and no one here is willing to borrow from the trade bank,
...Why not give us a paid vacation instead ?
I thought you didn't panhandle, deadbeat...
why the ***** is relf calling him 'giant john' now?
first it was dr. tao, now its 'giant john'. is tj flexing control
muscles?
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COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favo=
urite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy
singularity.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Giant John, Why not give us a paid vacation instead ? |
12 May 2007 08:50:57 PM |
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"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179017149.254976.103140@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On May 12, 5:38 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In article <Jeff_Relf_2007_May_12...@Cotse.NET>,
JeffSRelf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Seeing as you're a money machine and all, Giant John,
and no one here is willing to borrow from the trade bank,
...Why not give us a paid vacation instead ?
I thought you didn't panhandle, deadbeat...
why the ***** is relf calling him 'giant john' now?
first it was dr. tao, now its 'giant john'. is tj flexing control
muscles?
Jeff is saying Frazir is a huge toilet.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Giant John, Why not give us a paid vacation instead ? |
12 May 2007 10:04:09 PM |
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I sugested a NG cruise ..
Id take the pacific pincess for a month.
drydock the old love boat and use it for a ng pacific rim tour.
scrapped the norway..too..
I still have the 1965 art deco Philpeans
12000 ton liner ,,
a 5 mil party ...in hi ?
use it for the hotel.
Then I thought ...and thought ,,,thought ***** it.
Then I bought semester at sea a new boat.
blew $ 25 mil out my ***** and liked it.
I ust sold 1 bil in nickle
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Giant John, Why not give us a paid vacation instead ? |
13 May 2007 05:15:43 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9627-46468029-792@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net...
I sugested a NG cruise ..
Id take the pacific pincess for a month.
drydock the old love boat and use it for a ng pacific rim tour.
scrapped the norway..too..
I still have the 1965 art deco Philpeans
12000 ton liner ,,
a 5 mil party ...in hi ?
use it for the hotel.
Then I thought ...and thought ,,,thought ***** it.
Then I bought semester at sea a new boat.
blew $ 25 mil out my ***** and liked it.
I ust sold 1 bil in nickle
You know what, NutBoy, you could in seconds silence ALL your critics.
You claim to have in excess of US$10 billion, assuming you are not
completely inept with your money and you make at least the same amount of
interest my savings account pays out, this means you are earning >
US$500,000,000 a year in interest.
This works out at US$42m a month interest or US$1.4m a day.
Now, if you sent the money you would earn in ONE day to either Eric,
Phineas, Art, Myself or even Relf, we would all instantly stop doubting your
status and support your posts. It would be like magic.
Think about it. You have spent at least 2 hours a day for the last two years
ranting about how much you know and arguing with people who call you a kook.
That is the equivalent of working SOLIDLY for 60 days straight. (165 days if
you do 9 hour days).
Based on a very conservative example of your "worth," your time should be
worth at least 60k per hour. Every hour you waste here, saying the same old
things over and over, trying to get your point across, is actually LEECHING
money away from you.
You would be much better cutting your losses, spending the trivial amount
upfront and closing the deal. So much for you being a superb business man /
trader.
Of course, there is always the alternative explanation - you are a penniless
teenager who pretends to be rich as part of their fantasy life...
Which is it TJ?
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: The Tongass Giant's " Summer Seminar at Sea " ? |
14 May 2007 01:28:54 AM |
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You'd buy Semester at Sea ( and Seminar at Sea, for Older students )
a new ship, Giant John.
While I, on the other hand, would work with of
the " Seminar at Sea " professors, under an informal agreement,
helping him with his courseware ( for _ Older _ students ).
Is this the ship you " built " ? The M.V. Explorer,
a 24 kiloton former cruise ship ( Royal Olympic ), built in 2002:
http://Upload.WikiMedia.ORG/wikipedia/en/3/30/Semester_at_Sea_-_Venezuela_091_%282%29.jpg
www.SemesterAtSea.COM/oe/oepool2.jpg
Looking at:
www.SemesterAtSea.COM/seminar2007/index.html
www.SemesterAtSea.COM/seminar2007/itinerary.html
I see that " Seminar at Sea " departs Nassau, Bahamas, December 27_th;
ending in Fort Lauderdale, January 6_th.
There should be a Tongass version of this, in the summer.
I'd gladly help a professor ( and/or you )
develop the courseware for that.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Most of Fredriksen's " money " is in trade banks and dockside,... |
11 May 2007 06:59:55 PM |
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Tao records sea temps .
the alaskan giant neads all sea temps .
owns 48 % of all .
owner of tongas forest 1 mil acres.
my son lives in ohio and indiana and nyny
Ill denie evrything.
The facts should force you to trade.
Not who I am.
What you know ..import export bank...
the trade search .
You all have the know and the how and the bank and my addvice.
IF YOU DONT USE IT your trash.
Your nothing but a poor coward.
Q ,, why are you fear $ 10 million bucks ??
Q ,, I dont give a ***** what you do for fun ,,dont care if your a
programmer..dont care if you punch a clock or what. BUT WHAT does that
have to do with trade once ?
A ,,no reason other then yer ignorant.
B .. A ..
C ..A
D ..A..
the only reason is A all the time =A1=A1=A1
wake is all AAAAss
Handjob hanson is all AAAAA
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: I can help develop courseware... that's about it, that's my niche. |
11 May 2007 11:29:24 PM |
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You probably do know the " ship loading " facts, Giant John;
I don't know, because I haven't verified them.
I love the Tongass area is much as you do;
so I'll go there ( if I can afford the trip ), but not to Ohio.
If there's something you want me to do in Ohio, a gig I can handle,
and it paid my rent and moving costs... that'd be a different story.
I can help develop courseware... that's about it, that's my niche.
I'm not out to make 10 megadollars, 4 times a year.
Who needs the headaches ? That'd be lawyers, employees, taxes, etc.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Can a Nigerian get a green card by having a child with anAmer... |
11 May 2007 07:40:10 PM |
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because you used the trade bank..
the foren buyer or seller can secure money and be insured in the
trasnactions.
Your using the trade bank makes it easy for him and his bank in foren
places.
And the fact you have a US Gov bank with 190 billion to lend out.
And the fact your the BROKER the SHIPPER combined the buyer dont nead
to buy 10,000 ton then get it shipped at additional charges and hastels.
OR just because you can ....
10 mil a load in your pocket 4 times a year .
YOU all know what to do.
Lets see the budget ...
add the budget up.
show the finance page at the trade bank the budget.
Ill give evry one of you 1 last chance to wize the ***** up and trade
once.
or stay poor an ignorant.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Can a Nigerian get a green card by having a child with anAmer... |
12 May 2007 03:48:09 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:12652-46450CEA-771@storefull-3217.bay.webtv.net...
because you used the trade bank..
the foren buyer or seller can secure money and be insured in the
trasnactions.
Your using the trade bank makes it easy for him and his bank in foren
places.
And the fact you have a US Gov bank with 190 billion to lend out.
And the fact your the BROKER the SHIPPER combined the buyer dont nead
to buy 10,000 ton then get it shipped at additional charges and hastels.
OR just because you can ....
10 mil a load in your pocket 4 times a year .
YOU all know what to do.
Lets see the budget ...
add the budget up.
show the finance page at the trade bank the budget.
Ill give evry one of you 1 last chance to wize the ***** up and trade
once.
How many "1 last chances" do you give out?
or stay poor an ignorant.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: I know who Mr. Wake is. |
10 May 2007 07:05:52 PM |
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Mr. Wake asks: " Do you have any clue who I am ? ".
Absolutely, a moron who pecks out the word " idiot " 20 times a day
( after gazing in the mirror ) and then falls back, totally exhausted.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: I know who Mr. Wake is. |
10 May 2007 07:20:12 PM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_May_10_2_@Cotse.NET...
Mr. Wake asks: " Do you have any clue who I am ? ".
Absolutely, a moron who pecks out the word " idiot " 20 times a day
( after gazing in the mirror ) and then falls back, totally exhausted.
You see, although I asked your girl friend Frazir, you felt the need to
answer. You tried your best to come up with an answer, but as with most
things in your life, you failed miserably.
Thanks for trying though. It is appreciated.
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| User: "Bill Snyder" |
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| Title: Re: I know who Mr. Wake is. |
10 May 2007 08:41:41 PM |
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 01:20:12 +0100, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_May_10_2_@Cotse.NET...
Mr. Wake asks: " Do you have any clue who I am ? ".
Absolutely, a moron who pecks out the word " idiot " 20 times a day
( after gazing in the mirror ) and then falls back, totally exhausted.
You see, although I asked your girl friend Frazir,
I'm pretty sure that in the Frazier/Ralf relationship, Jerk_Ralf goes
on the bottom, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
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| User: "T Wake" |
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11 May 2007 07:53:11 AM |
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"Bill Snyder" <bsnyder@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:nbi743lm38gir78lbc1tb9ipmusg8nlsml@4ax.com...
On Fri, 11 May 2007 01:20:12 +0100, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_May_10_2_@Cotse.NET...
Mr. Wake asks: " Do you have any clue who I am ? ".
Absolutely, a moron who pecks out the word " idiot " 20 times a day
( after gazing in the mirror ) and then falls back, totally exhausted.
You see, although I asked your girl friend Frazir,
I'm pretty sure that in the Frazier/Ralf relationship, Jerk_Ralf goes
on the bottom, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
I think I do.
I think I agree...
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