Science > Physics > The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons.
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"Tom Potter" |
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30 Mar 2007 11:43:07 PM |
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The General Relativity gang are circling the wagons. |
As can be seen by their intensity and their methods,
the small gang that profits from General Relativity
is very concerned that the public is becoming aware of
the costs to society of General Relativity.
No doubt, General Relativity is the model of choice,
if one wants to design a time travel machine,
or warp through space machine,
or create worm holes,
or speculate on things beyond man's
capacity to ever experience in time and space,
BUT
if one wants to design things like computers, bridges, mechanisms,
engines,
communications systems and *** GPS Systems ***,
General Relativity is an enormous waste of time, money and resources.
Although any competent systems engineer KNOWS that
General Relativity is not, and was not, essential to the GPS system,
the same small gang that profits
in reputation and income from General Relativity
constantly make such a claim.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/HTML/wrong.html
"GTR isn't working in the GPS": this simply isn't so; see these
papers.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507121
Introducing Relativity in Global Navigation Satellite Systems
Authors: J.-F. Pascual-Sanchez
(Submitted on 28 Jul 2005 (v1), last revised 13 Dec 2006 (this
version, v3))
Abstract: Today, the Global Navigation Satellite Systems, used as
global positioning systems, are the GPS and the GLONASS. They are
based on a Newtonian model and hence they are only operative when
several relativistic effects are taken into account. The most
important relativistic effects (to order 1/c^2) are: the Einstein
gravitational blue shift effect of the satellite clock frequency
(Equivalence Principle of General Relativity) and the Doppler red
shift of second order,
due to the motion of the satellite (Special Relativity).
http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2003-1/index.html
The Global Positioning System (GPS) uses accurate, stable atomic
clocks in satellites and on the ground to provide world-wide position
and time determination. These clocks have gravitational and motional
frequency shifts which are so large that, without carefully accounting
for numerous relativistic effects, the system would not work.
Note that the GTR charlatans constantly try to con the masses into
thinking
that the effects of distance (Hubble Effect),
velocity (Doppler Effect),
and acceleration (Galileo Effect)
on the frequency of oscillating systems,
are General Relativity effects.
So far, I haven't seen any effort on their part
to claim the GTR must be used to compensate for
temperature, humidity, jerk, snap, crackle and pop effects.
As can be see from reading Chris Hillman's web site,
he aggressively attacks General Relative critics PERSONALLY,
rather than simply demonstrate a few cost effective uses of GTR.
One would think that if the GTR promoters possessed
such powerful, esoteric knowledge, that they would use their
knowledge to make a few billion dollars in the free market,
and they would not have be on the taxpayer's dole.
Note that in trying to discredit GTR critics,
Chris Hillman used the word "crank" more than thirty times,
and used the Web site of an unemployed computer programmer,
who took some data processing classes at a third rate California
college,
as his main reference.
Regarding Chris Hillman's statement:
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"The Politics of Anti-Science
In my view, antiscientific activity by organized political pressure
groups has nothing to do with science or reason.
Rather, such activity is motivated by power and fear.
Fear:
On the one hand, some people fear (sometimes correctly, often not)
that science is somehow directly "contradicting"
the validity of their religious or philosophical convictions, and this
has led some religious groups
to condemn such cornerstones of modern science as the theory of
evolution
and the standard Hot Big Bang model of cosmology,
preferring to stick to the literal truth of the creation story told in
the Bible,
or in more subtle ways to dispute the role of science as an arbiter of
"natural truth".
Power:
Science is universally respected, even by those who fear it, and with
good reason:
almost every citizen of the "developed world" recognizes
that nowadays common citizens live better than kings of old
because of the benefits of technology which grew out of basic
scientific research.
Scientists (and mathematicians) have almost become secular demigods,
and it should be no surprise that those religious and political
groups
which are hostile to science but which do not dare to condemn
scientific activity altogether,
have tried to co-opt scientific theories by claiming that these
theories
somehow "prove" the validity of their religious or political beliefs.
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As can be seen by the logical fallacies used by Chris Hillman
in his efforts to discredit GTR critics,
the GTR gang is motivated by "power and fear"
(And the taxpayer's money),
and although "Science is universally respected",
charlatans who pretend to possess powerful, esoteric knowledge
and cannot demonstrate this in the free market,
ARE NOT.
After Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.
After Maxwell's model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.
After Watson's and Crick's DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.
Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances.
General Relativity is a Tower of Babel
that wastes time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, gravity waves,
rubber rulers and clocks, etc.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
--
Tom Potter
*** Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006 ***
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus " gets nailed to the cross ten times a day by thesef_c... |
01 May 2007 09:30:07 AM |
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Thats easy as ***** poelock .
ignore the facts and post only ***** and ignore the facts ..
ITS IMPOSIBLE for randy or wake to disscuss and facts .
Randy Poelock and Wake the dileupdike
DONT THINK TRADES
Dont understand facts....cant act on facts ..
are doomed to stay poor and stupid.
I sat tons of money in your face and your too stupid to deal with
anything.
You would have done no better in front of trump.
Wakes responce to the trade bank is " do I get a sucker "!
Randy is so stupid he thinks harvard grads know how to trade.
EDU turns out poor working pupets that dont know ***** . They train
them well to fill out my paperwork and thats all they are good for.
When it mes to hunting down trades and making the money none of them
step up and trade , they all want a nice safe job and a big pay check
because after all I make tons of money .
When it comes to trades ...do the math and if the math fits JUST DO IT.
YOU clowns wount do the math wount try and wount trade and wount be
worth a ***** .
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus " gets nailed to the cross ten times a day by these f_c... |
01 May 2007 10:26:55 AM |
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On May 1, 10:30 am, (tj Frazir) wrote:
Thats easy as ***** poelock .
ignore the facts and post only ***** and ignore the facts ..
ITS IMPOSIBLE for randy or wake to disscuss and facts .
Randy Poelock and Wake the dileupdike
DONT THINK TRADES
This has my name in it, but does not appear to be related to
anything I have posted.
Randy is so stupid he thinks harvard grads know how to trade.
Ditto. I don't recall saying anything about Harvard or
trades. I expect you have confused me with voice #4 in
your head, which I guess is an imaginary friend who shares
my name.
- Randy
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus " gets nailed to the cross ten times a day by thesef_c... |
01 May 2007 12:28:48 PM |
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Poelock must be the name you refer to.
You and wake dont have the mental capacity to understand the trade leads
or how to pay off 30,000 acres in cash and still have a few mil.
Its as simple as the wheel yet randy and wake drag rocks to the sea.
Wake punches a clock for next to nothing .
There is no reason ....
NO reason wake and poelock are so poor they jack off the dog to feed the
cat.
They just cant stop stupid long enouph tto trade
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: " Jesus " gets nailed to the cross ten times a day by thesef_c... |
01 May 2007 03:16:39 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27150-463778D0-895@storefull-3218.bay.webtv.net...
Poelock must be the name you refer to.
You and wake dont have the mental capacity to understand the trade leads
or how to pay off 30,000 acres in cash and still have a few mil.
Its as simple as the wheel yet randy and wake drag rocks to the sea.
Wake punches a clock for next to nothing .
What makes you think I punch a clock?
There is no reason ....
NO reason wake and poelock are so poor they jack off the dog to feed the
cat.
They just cant stop stupid long enouph tto trade
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| User: "John Park" |
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| Title: Re: Unlike Randy_Poe, a _ Genuine _ programmer compiles, runs and tests. |
29 Apr 2007 09:19:47 PM |
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Randy Poe (poespam-trap@yahoo.com) writes:
On Apr 28, 7:07 pm, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Before passing judgement on VC++ 8.0 code ( as you have, Randy_Poe )
I did, J_efr_R*_elf? When did I do that? What was my judgment?
(BTW, little nit. Even good spellers sometimes miss that the
correct spelling is "judgment". But I hate spelling nits, so I won't
harp on it. See spelling notes here for instance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment
or check any dictionary).
My Concise Oxfords (UK English) allow both forms but prefer -dge- .
--John Park
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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| Title: Re: Unlike Randy_Poe, a _ Genuine _ programmer compiles, runs and tests. |
30 Apr 2007 07:01:36 AM |
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On Apr 29, 10:19 pm, (John Park) wrote:
Randy Poe (poespam-t...@yahoo.com) writes:
On Apr 28, 7:07 pm, Jeff...Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
Before passing judgement on VC++ 8.0 code ( as you have, Randy_Poe )
I did, J_efr_R*_elf? When did I do that? What was my judgment?
(BTW, little nit. Even good spellers sometimes miss that the
correct spelling is "judgment". But I hate spelling nits, so I won't
harp on it. See spelling notes here for instance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment
or check any dictionary).
My Concise Oxfords (UK English) allow both forms but prefer -dge- .
And apparently the American standard is the reverse, with
-dg- being the main form and -dge- an allowed variant.
That's according to the Wiki article above and
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/judgment
- Randy
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Dr. Tao's a _ Logger _, with a capital " L ". |
28 Apr 2007 09:14:50 AM |
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Jeff…Relf wrote:
Even if you were a logger, Mr. NoSense,
you still wouldn't know what Dr. Tao is talking about,
because he's a _ Logger _, with a capital " L ".
You think he doesn't have accountants and lawyers ? or what ?
Do you picture him out there, swinging the axe ?
I see the same thing when Randy_Poe claims I'm not a programmer.
There are programmers and then there are _ Programmers _ .
This has to be one of the funniest posts ever made.
Pathetic.
But funny too.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 12:34:07 AM |
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Your a moron.
1 ,,not holding off harvest for a year dumbass.
2..as soon as its paid off he can harvest.
3.. tax on what moron,,,PROFIT !!!
spend 15 million and make 20 ,,you made 5 stupid . pay CGT on 5 mil.
a sophisicated biz man ??????
is a monkey in a tux.
I not very sophisicated , just a self made billionaire .
Sophisicated bissnessman drinks tea and punches the clock.
I hire out my taxes ,,I cant do my taxes .
I cant do my propety taxes either.
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Thats no fucking reason wake cant buy the forest .
All he neads is 15 mil.
He cans sell a contract for 10,000 maple logs for 15 mil . Pay the land
off the same day for 13 mil maybe 12 mil cash.
offer 11 mil stupid.
.................now thats a Bman bissness man ,,
offer 11 mil they want 13 mil...after you talk contract with buyer.
TEST TEST post 10,000 ton red maple logs from maiine for 13 million usd.
in trade leads.
india trade japan trade leads
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 12:33:11 PM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27150-4632DCCF-484@storefull-3218.bay.webtv.net...
Your a moron.
You are just full of *****. Only RelfWitT is stupid enough to even begin to
believe your crap.
1 ,,not holding off harvest for a year dumbass.
2..as soon as its paid off he can harvest.
3.. tax on what moron,,,PROFIT !!!
spend 15 million and make 20 ,,you made 5 stupid . pay CGT on 5 mil.
a sophisicated biz man ??????
is a monkey in a tux.
I not very sophisicated , just a self made billionaire .
Sophisicated bissnessman drinks tea and punches the clock.
I hire out my taxes ,,I cant do my taxes .
I cant do my propety taxes either.
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Thats no fucking reason wake cant buy the forest .
All he neads is 15 mil.
You really do make me laugh.
Wire me the $15,000,000 and I will do it then send you every cent of the
profits.
He cans sell a contract for 10,000 maple logs for 15 mil . Pay the land
off the same day for 13 mil maybe 12 mil cash.
offer 11 mil stupid.
................now thats a Bman bissness man ,,
offer 11 mil they want 13 mil...after you talk contract with buyer.
TEST TEST post 10,000 ton red maple logs from maiine for 13 million usd.
in trade leads.
india trade japan trade leads
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 06:29:24 PM |
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What are wakes so called reasons he cant buy the 30kacres ?
Lets just call it 35 square miles.
1 ,,,2,,,,,3....
make a list wake.
TEST IT .
cost nothing ,,your just interested is all.
Test it and see what buyers will.
IF wake has the balls ,,he would post it ,,get 100 offers to buy.
(((10,000 ton maple logs 15 million usd.
5 mil under market as neaded to pay off 30,000 acre forest.))
see north end of spider lake maine.
the best stand of maples on earth
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 06:41:18 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
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What are wakes so called reasons he cant buy the 30kacres ?
Lets just call it 35 square miles.
47 would be closer to the truth.
1 ,,,2,,,,,3....
make a list wake.
Why dont you make a list of the true statements you have made in your life.
TEST IT .
cost nothing ,,your just interested is all.
Test it and see what buyers will.
IF wake has the balls ,,he would post it ,,get 100 offers to buy.
I am constrained by sanity and reality, unfortunately. Sorry.
(((10,000 ton maple logs 15 million usd.
5 mil under market as neaded to pay off 30,000 acre forest.))
see north end of spider lake maine.
the best stand of maples on earth
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 11:57:09 AM |
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47 includes the 5 lakes.
the stand is 35
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: T_Wake's little world. |
29 Apr 2007 07:18:23 AM |
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In T_Wake's little world, everyone is insane, except himself.
Although he's " Abramovich's body guard ", he promotes suicide.
I think he's a bomb waiting to go off.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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29 Apr 2007 07:39:54 AM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2007_Apr_29_5_@Cotse.NET...
In T_Wake's little world, everyone is insane, except himself.
Although he's " Abramovich's body guard ", he promotes suicide.
I think he's a bomb waiting to go off.
Jeff, your avoidance techniques are pretty repetitive. You need to work on
it a bit. I do love the way you try to write me little K0okL0ve letters in
the subject lines though. Very cute.
Who said I was Abramovich's body guard?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 07:31:09 PM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
Your a moron.
1 ,,not holding off harvest for a year dumbass.
2..as soon as its paid off he can harvest.
3.. tax on what moron,,,PROFIT !!!
spend 15 million and make 20 ,,you made 5 stupid . pay CGT on 5 mil.
You think you're going to get land in Maine at $500 an
acre?
Lotsa luck.
a sophisicated biz man ??????
is a monkey in a tux.
I not very sophisicated , just a self made billionaire .
Sophisicated bissnessman drinks tea and punches the clock.
I hire out my taxes ,,I cant do my taxes .
I cant do my propety taxes either.
.....................................................
Thats no fucking reason wake cant buy the forest .
All he neads is 15 mil.
He cans sell a contract for 10,000 maple logs for 15 mil . Pay the land
off the same day for 13 mil maybe 12 mil cash.
offer 11 mil stupid.
................now thats a Bman bissness man ,,
offer 11 mil they want 13 mil...after you talk contract with buyer.
TEST TEST post 10,000 ton red maple logs from maiine for 13 million usd.
in trade leads.
india trade japan trade leads
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 12:00:37 AM |
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
28 Apr 2007 11:43:29 PM |
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I paid $ 165 acre for 100,000 acres in maine an $250 for 23000 acres.
The 30,000 acres was posted so you can look at it $ 13 mil.
didnt you see it ?
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 06:42:12 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I paid $ 165 acre for 100,000 acres in maine an $250 for 23000 acres.
The 30,000 acres was posted so you can look at it $ 13 mil.
didnt you see it ?
Reality is a cruel thing, isn't it TJ? Is this why you have retreated to
this little world of your own?
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Show us some Clear Steel, Dr. Tao. |
29 Apr 2007 12:29:50 AM |
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40,000 poles out of 1.2 million poles.
and 7000 maples out of 350,000 .
That will sustain the forest forever and clean the floor better then
fire by cleaning the floor in lines 10 acres wide .
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: How long do they grow before you can harvest them ? |
29 Apr 2007 12:53:20 AM |
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Are you planting maples, Dr. Tao ?
How long do they grow before you can harvest them ?
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: How long do they grow before you can harvest them ? |
29 Apr 2007 01:25:49 AM |
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25 year maples .
Tongass National Forest - Resource FAQs
Address:http://www.fs.fed.us/r10/tongass/forest_facts/faqs/resources.shtml
Changed:2:16 AM on Sunday, April 29, 2007
I paid 1 billion for my native land .
1 million acres 1988.
and gave back 50,000 acres to hide my name.
I own 150,000 aces of maine.
1.2 million acre farm brazil.
20,000 acres ohio
10,000 acres california
8 islands.
16 castels.
12 big fucking ships.
5 harvest 45000 ton ships
72 cargo ship colection tow loaded.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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29 Apr 2007 01:55:13 AM |
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Looking at your link, Dr. Tao:
" www.FS.Fed.US/r10/tongass/forest_facts/faqs/resources.shtml ";
I see that temperate rainforests have
" a greater biomass than tropical rainforests. ".
And it's much stranger too. Do you collect mushrooms ?
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: Do you collect mushrooms ? |
29 Apr 2007 06:47:43 AM |
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"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
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Looking at your link, Dr. Tao:
" www.FS.Fed.US/r10/tongass/forest_facts/faqs/resources.shtml ";
I see that temperate rainforests have
" a greater biomass than tropical rainforests. ".
And it's much stranger too. Do you collect mushrooms ?
That would explain a lot.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Do you collect mushrooms ? |
29 Apr 2007 11:32:30 AM |
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Moss..no shroons .
The top of the tree neads to be used as biomass. Putting it all on the
ground just adds fule for fires or bettle bug shelters.
Why waist the limbs and foilage ?
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: How long do they grow before you can harvest them ? |
29 Apr 2007 01:33:19 AM |
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fraser fir hbird spruce 10 year 1 ton pole.
the tree then adds a ton a year to stump.
1 fraser fir eats 2 ton carbon out of the air year.
A maple eats 1/4 ton year and eats out of ground. A oak eats 1 ton
year cabon out of the air.
A fed tree grows 4 times as fast.
treespike once and spray for bugs.
industryal forest is not a cut it all down deal.
1 % a year max cut down.
Ive never cut down 1 % .
Tongass National Forest - Resource FAQs
Address:http://www.fs.fed.us/r10/tongass/forest_facts/faqs/resources.shtml
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: Do you water the suckers ? |
29 Apr 2007 02:13:58 AM |
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" Spike-feed a tree's roots once and it grows four times as fast. ",
you say, Dr. Tao. How many spikes ? Do you water the suckers ?
What about your cherry trees in Italy ( for fresh Cherries ) ?
I've driven tractors, pruned trees, irrigated, picked, fenced,
fertilized, protected trunks, etc.
I didn't do the spaying, but I often watched the owner do it.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Do you water the suckers ? |
29 Apr 2007 11:44:55 AM |
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A plane sprays ..cropduster bettle insecticide.
And drops stawberry seed over the young trees. Parent trees get a walk
threw tree spike .
I have a tree doctor take care of my old growth forest .
In just 15 years Ive closed the top of 40,000 maine forest by cutting 1
% in a circle and dropping moss spryaing and feeding .
Once the top closes the sun never shines threw and the moss becomes
like a carpet and you feal like your inside .
Rain may not hit the ground at all.
Once the top canopy closed its a rain forest.
Ive taken a pine spruce forest and get it back to rainforest in 15
years.
sustained forest arborscience geophysics.
The grass and under brush went away and the moss takes over.
The live game is booming under the rainforest top
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?=" |
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| Title: How old/big are your oldest/biggest trees ? |
29 Apr 2007 04:31:24 PM |
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Wow... living in one of your rain forests, Dr. Tao,
would be like living in the largest mansion in the world.
It's got a moss roof and a dark, mossy floor.
But I'd need a gun, for the bears. I'd also need
a warm/dry/secure shelter at night ( for me and my food ).
Your tree doctor has a wild-***** job.
Has he ever taken you to the top of the canopy ?
How old/big are your oldest/biggest trees ?
You don't know your shrooms ?
Doesn't the Maine forest need extra water ?
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: How old/big are your oldest/biggest trees ? |
29 Apr 2007 05:30:19 PM |
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800 900 1000 year old .
over 12feet wide 200 tall.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: How old/big are your oldest/biggest trees ? |
29 Apr 2007 05:29:10 PM |
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Ive got a tree top view in the alaskan bungalow.
Its like standing in a rolling wheet field.
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