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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Golden Boar"
Date: 16 Sep 2006 01:33:05 PM
Object: The insanity of Vergon
Vergon belives that a photon has mass. He believes this because the
upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence is about 1 *
10-54 kg.
He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the smallest mass
detected, whereas any sane person would say it means that a photon
could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f / c^2 and thinks
thats this is the mass of the photon.
He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon can have is 1 Hz,
which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on photon mass, and
thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f / c^2.
Any sane person would realise that for an infinte number of values for
f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon mass, and since
the upper limit is the largest value which could be associated with the
photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the mass of the
photon.
This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's constant is
massive.
.

User: "Dirk Van de moortel"

Title: Re: The insanity of Brass Boor 17 Sep 2006 11:20:44 AM
"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message news:v8ePg.4058$2Q4.1716@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...


"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

| If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2 points
| is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back to
| point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters. TRUE
| or FALSE?

Hmm... let me think this through...

A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.

We either have:
A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10 meters
with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in zero
time,
OR

B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10 meters
with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time 2t.

A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.


What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
experiment?
c = 0/0.

Answer to your question below:
.

[snip]

.
.
Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
Androcles.

"Let me think this through":
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/LetMeThink.html
Dirk Vdm
.
User: "Sorcerer"

Title: Re: The insanity of local village dog tord, Dork Van de merde 17 Sep 2006 12:49:11 PM
"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:wBePg.81422$Lu6.1239171@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
|
| "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_b> wrote in message
news:v8ePg.4058$2Q4.1716@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
| >
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158505324.189949.131910@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
|
| [snip]
Ok, snipped
I've included alt.local village.idiot and alt.morons for you so that
you can read my reply as you requested.
Androcles
.


User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: The insanity of Androcles, Vergon and Porat 17 Sep 2006 11:34:34 AM
Sorcerer wrote:

"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158502048.539337.147640@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1158457834.963639.281040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant relativist as
| > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different flavour.
| > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence is about
1 *
| > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to convert faith
with
| > | > logic.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the smallest
mass
| > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it means that a
photon
| > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as he is.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f / c^2
and
| > | > thinks
| > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are money, money
grows on
| > | > trees.
| > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to the compass
| > needle?
| > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the magnet, what
| > happens
| > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon can have
is
| > 1
| > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on photon
mass,
| > and
| > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f / c^2.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't all be right.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You believe in
that
| > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values for
| > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon mass,
and
| > since
| > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could be associated
| > with
| > | > the
| > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the mass of
the
| > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's
constant is
| > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Androcles
| > | > |
| > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
| > points
| > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move from point
A to
| > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path you have
| > travelled
| > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have travelled is 20
| > meters.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
points
| > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves from point A
to
| > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0 seconds,
which
| > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our theory plays
the
| > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has taken is t
=
| > x/c,
| > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | >
| > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels x-x in time
| > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | >
| > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets to the
store
| > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | >
| > | > Androcles
| > |
| > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| >
| > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| >
| > Androcles
| > |
|
| Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE

Ok. Maybe you are not insane.


|
| If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2 points
| is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back to
| point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters. TRUE
| or FALSE?

Hmm... let me think this through...

A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.

I didn't mention anything constant velocity.


We either have:
A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10 meters
with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in zero
time,
OR

B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10 meters
with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time 2t.

I didn't mention light or velocity. I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
to A.
The length of the path from A to B is x.
The length of the path from B to A is x.
The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?


A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.


What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
experiment?
c = 0/0.

The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.


Answer to your question below:
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
Androcles.

Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
.
User: "Sorcerer"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 12:58:47 PM
"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158505324.189949.131910@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1158502048.539337.147640@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1158457834.963639.281040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | >
news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant relativist as
| > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different flavour.
| > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence is
about
| > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to convert
faith
| > with
| > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the
smallest
| > mass
| > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it means that
a
| > photon
| > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as he is.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f /
c^2
| > and
| > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are money, money
| > grows on
| > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to the
compass
| > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the magnet,
what
| > | > happens
| > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon can
have
| > is
| > | > 1
| > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on
photon
| > mass,
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f / c^2.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't all be
right.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You believe in
| > that
| > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values for
| > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon
mass,
| > and
| > | > since
| > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could be
associated
| > | > with
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the mass
of
| > the
| > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's
| > constant is
| > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those
2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move from
point
| > A to
| > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path you have
| > | > travelled
| > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have travelled is
20
| > | > meters.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
| > points
| > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves from
point A
| > to
| > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
seconds,
| > which
| > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our theory
plays
| > the
| > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has taken is
t
| > =
| > | > x/c,
| > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels x-x in
time
| > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets to the
| > store
| > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Androcles
| > | > |
| > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Androcles
| > | > |
| > |
| > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| >
| > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
points
| > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back to
| > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters. TRUE
| > | or FALSE?
| >
| > Hmm... let me think this through...
| >
| > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
|
| I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
How embarrassing for you.
|
| >
| > We either have:
| > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10
meters
| > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in
zero
| > time,
| > OR
| >
| > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10 meters
| > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time 2t.
|
| I didn't mention light or velocity.
Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
How embarrassing for you.
I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| to A.
We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
and Einstein's insanity.
|
| The length of the path from A to B is x.
Yes....
| The length of the path from B to A is x.
Nope. it is -x.
Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.
| If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?
Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?
| >
| > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| >
| >
| > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > experiment?
| > c = 0/0.
|
| The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.
Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| >
| > Answer to your question below:
| > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > Androcles.
|
| Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
to "take away" class.
Androcles
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 02:30:30 PM
Sorcerer wrote:

"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158505324.189949.131910@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1158502048.539337.147640@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1158457834.963639.281040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | >
news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant relativist as
| > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different flavour.
| > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence is
about
| > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to convert
faith
| > with
| > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the
smallest
| > mass
| > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it means that
a
| > photon
| > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as he is.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f /
c^2
| > and
| > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are money, money
| > grows on
| > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to the
compass
| > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the magnet,
what
| > | > happens
| > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon can
have
| > is
| > | > 1
| > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on
photon
| > mass,
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f / c^2.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't all be
right.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You believe in
| > that
| > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values for
| > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon
mass,
| > and
| > | > since
| > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could be
associated
| > | > with
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the mass
of
| > the
| > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's
| > constant is
| > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those
2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move from
point
| > A to
| > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path you have
| > | > travelled
| > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have travelled is
20
| > | > meters.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
| > points
| > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves from
point A
| > to
| > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
seconds,
| > which
| > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our theory
plays
| > the
| > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has taken is
t
| > =
| > | > x/c,
| > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels x-x in
time
| > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets to the
| > store
| > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Androcles
| > | > |
| > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Androcles
| > | > |
| > |
| > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| >
| > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
points
| > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back to
| > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters. TRUE
| > | or FALSE?
| >
| > Hmm... let me think this through...
| >
| > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
|
| I didn't mention anything constant velocity.

Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
How embarrassing for you.


|
| >
| > We either have:
| > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10
meters
| > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in
zero
| > time,
| > OR
| >
| > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10 meters
| > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time 2t.
|
| I didn't mention light or velocity.

Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
How embarrassing for you.


I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| to A.

We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
and Einstein's insanity.

|
| The length of the path from A to B is x.

Yes....

| The length of the path from B to A is x.

Nope. it is -x.

Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?

| The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?

Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.

| If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?

Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?



| >
| > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| >
| >
| > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > experiment?
| > c = 0/0.
|
| The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.

Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?


| >
| > Answer to your question below:

| > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > Androcles.
|
| Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.

Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
to "take away" class.
Androcles.

Forget all about Einstein for a moment, I know that it's difficult for
you, but just try.
The distance between 2 points, A(x1, y1, z1) and B(x2, y2, z2), is:
AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2 + [y2 - y1]^2 + [z2 -z1]^2)
If we assume that point A and point B are both positioned on the
x-axis, then we get,
AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
If x1 = 0 and x2 = 10, then we get,
AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
AB = sqrt([10 - 0]^2)
AB = sqrt([10]^2)
AB = sqrt(100)
AB = 10
BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
BA = sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
BA = sqrt([-10]^2)
BA = sqrt(100)
BA = 10
Therefore AB = BA.
The length of the path ABA is given by, AB + BA, and since AB=BA, then
ABA = 2AB.
We will now check this using x1 = 0 and x2 = 10.
ABA = 2AB
ABA = 2 * 10
ABA = 20
ABA = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2) + sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
ABA = sqrt([10 - 0]^2) + sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
ABA = sqrt(100) + sqrt(100)
ABA = 10 + 10
ABA = 20
Therefore, ABA = 2AB.
When something travels along this path it leaves A at time t_A and
arrives back at A at time t_A', so the duration of travel is,
t_ABA = t_A' - t_A.
The average velocity of something travelling path ABA is then given by,
v = ABA / t_ABA
v = 2AB / (t_A' - t_A)
.
User: "Sorcerer"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 04:50:26 PM
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1158502048.539337.147640@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | >
| > news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant relativist
as
| > | > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different
flavour.
| > | > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence
is
| > about
| > | > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to
convert
| > faith
| > | > with
| > | > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the
| > smallest
| > | > mass
| > | > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it means
that
| > a
| > | > photon
| > | > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as he
is.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f
/
| > c^2
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are money,
money
| > | > grows on
| > | > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to the
| > compass
| > | > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the magnet,
| > what
| > | > | > happens
| > | > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon
can
| > have
| > | > is
| > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on
| > photon
| > | > mass,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f /
c^2.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't all
be
| > right.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You
believe in
| > | > that
| > | > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values for
| > | > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon
| > mass,
| > | > and
| > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could be
| > associated
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the
mass
| > of
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's
| > | > constant is
| > | > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
those
| > 2
| > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move
from
| > point
| > | > A to
| > | > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path you
have
| > | > | > travelled
| > | > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have travelled
is
| > 20
| > | > | > meters.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
those 2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves from
| > point A
| > | > to
| > | > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
| > seconds,
| > | > which
| > | > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our
theory
| > plays
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has
taken is
| > t
| > | > =
| > | > | > x/c,
| > | > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels x-x
in
| > time
| > | > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets to
the
| > | > store
| > | > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| > | >
| > | > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
| > points
| > | > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back
to
| > | > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters.
TRUE
| > | > | or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Hmm... let me think this through...
| > | >
| > | > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
| > |
| > | I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
| >
| > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > How embarrassing for you.
NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
| >
| > |
| > | >
| > | > We either have:
| > | > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10
| > meters
| > | > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in
| > zero
| > | > time,
| > | > OR
| > | >
| > | > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10
meters
| > | > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time
2t.
| > |
| > | I didn't mention light or velocity.
| >
| > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > How embarrassing for you.
| >
| >
| > I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| > | to A.
| >
| > We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
| > and Einstein's insanity.
| >
| > |
| > | The length of the path from A to B is x.
| >
| > Yes....
| >
| > | The length of the path from B to A is x.
| >
| > Nope. it is -x.
| >
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| >
| > | The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
| >
| > Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.
| >
| > | If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?
| >
| > Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?
NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
| >
| >
| > | >
| > | > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > | > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > | > experiment?
| > | > c = 0/0.
| > |
| > | The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.
| >
| > Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| >
| >
| > | >
| > | > Answer to your question below:
| >
| > | > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
| >
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
| > think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
| > to "take away" class.
| > Androcles.
|
| Forget all about Einstein for a moment, I know that it's difficult for
| you, but just try.
Ok. Let's talk about the weather.
|
| The distance between 2 points, A(x1, y1, z1) and B(x2, y2, z2), is:
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2 + [y2 - y1]^2 + [z2 -z1]^2)
x = +/- sqrt(x^2)
You failed sqrt() class, insane moron. Was that truancy too?
Honestly, you are attempting to win an argument which
is futile, you do not have any knowledge of mathematics.
|
| If we assume that point A and point B are both positioned on the
| x-axis, then we get,
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
x = [-b +/- sqrt(b^2-4ac)]/2a.
http://tinyurl.com/zgogt
Kiddy stuff. SANE kiddy stuff.
|
| If x1 = 0 and x2 = 10, then we get,
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| AB = sqrt([10 - 0]^2)
| AB = sqrt([10]^2)
| AB = sqrt(100)
| AB = 10
|
| BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| BA = sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| BA = sqrt([-10]^2)
| BA = sqrt(100)
| BA = 10
|
| Therefore AB = BA.
AB = +/- sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
BA = -/+ sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
Therefore ABA = 0.
You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
Repeat second grade.
|
| The length of the path ABA is given by, AB + BA, and since AB=BA, then
| ABA = 2AB.
ABA = 0.
You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
Repeat second grade.
|
| We will now check this using x1 = 0 and x2 = 10.
|
| ABA = 2AB
| ABA = 2 * 10
| ABA = 20
This is why you are a Polypropylene Boor, totally artificial, convincing
only yourself. <yawn>
Rest of post ignored.
Androcles.
|
| ABA = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2) + sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| ABA = sqrt([10 - 0]^2) + sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| ABA = sqrt(100) + sqrt(100)
| ABA = 10 + 10
| ABA = 20
|
| Therefore, ABA = 2AB.
|
| When something travels along this path it leaves A at time t_A and
| arrives back at A at time t_A', so the duration of travel is,
|
| t_ABA = t_A' - t_A.
|
| The average velocity of something travelling path ABA is then given by,
|
| v = ABA / t_ABA
| v = 2AB / (t_A' - t_A)
|
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 05:28:04 PM
Sorcerer wrote:

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| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | >
| > news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant relativist
as
| > | > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different
flavour.
| > | > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental evidence
is
| > about
| > | > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to
convert
| > faith
| > | > with
| > | > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is the
| > smallest
| > | > mass
| > | > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it means
that
| > a
| > | > photon
| > | > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper limit
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as he
is.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m = h.f
/
| > c^2
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are money,
money
| > | > grows on
| > | > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to the
| > compass
| > | > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the magnet,
| > what
| > | > | > happens
| > | > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a photon
can
| > have
| > | > is
| > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit on
| > photon
| > | > mass,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f /
c^2.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't all
be
| > right.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You
believe in
| > | > that
| > | > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values for
| > | > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on photon
| > mass,
| > | > and
| > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could be
| > associated
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give the
mass
| > of
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that Planck's
| > | > constant is
| > | > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
those
| > 2
| > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move
from
| > point
| > | > A to
| > | > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path you
have
| > | > | > travelled
| > | > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have travelled
is
| > 20
| > | > | > meters.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
those 2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves from
| > point A
| > | > to
| > | > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
| > seconds,
| > | > which
| > | > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our
theory
| > plays
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has
taken is
| > t
| > | > =
| > | > | > x/c,
| > | > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels x-x
in
| > time
| > | > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets to
the
| > | > store
| > | > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| > | >
| > | > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those 2
| > points
| > | > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then back
to
| > | > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20 meters.
TRUE
| > | > | or FALSE?
| > | >
| > | > Hmm... let me think this through...
| > | >
| > | > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
| > |
| > | I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
| >
| > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > How embarrassing for you.


NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?

He's not my God.


| >
| > |
| > | >
| > | > We either have:
| > | > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus 10
| > meters
| > | > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20 metres in
| > zero
| > | > time,
| > | > OR
| > | >
| > | > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t and -10
meters
| > | > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in time
2t.
| > |
| > | I didn't mention light or velocity.
| >
| > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > How embarrassing for you.
| >
| >
| > I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| > | to A.
| >
| > We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
| > and Einstein's insanity.
| >
| > |
| > | The length of the path from A to B is x.
| >
| > Yes....
| >
| > | The length of the path from B to A is x.
| >
| > Nope. it is -x.
| >
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| >
| > | The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
| >
| > Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.
| >
| > | If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?
| >
| > Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?

NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?

LOL.


| >
| >
| > | >
| > | > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > | > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > | > experiment?
| > | > c = 0/0.
| > |
| > | The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.
| >
| > Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| >
| >
| > | >
| > | > Answer to your question below:
| >
| > | > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
| >
| > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
| > think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
| > to "take away" class.
| > Androcles.
|
| Forget all about Einstein for a moment, I know that it's difficult for
| you, but just try.

Ok. Let's talk about the weather.

|
| The distance between 2 points, A(x1, y1, z1) and B(x2, y2, z2), is:
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2 + [y2 - y1]^2 + [z2 -z1]^2)

x = +/- sqrt(x^2)

You failed sqrt() class, insane moron. Was that truancy too?

LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
no such classes to fail.


Honestly, you are attempting to win an argument which
is futile, you do not have any knowledge of mathematics.

Yes it is well known that the insane are unreasonable, so I do not
expect you to listen to reason. I just like making dun of your
stupidity.




|
| If we assume that point A and point B are both positioned on the
| x-axis, then we get,
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)

x = [-b +/- sqrt(b^2-4ac)]/2a.

http://tinyurl.com/zgogt

Kiddy stuff. SANE kiddy stuff.

What's the quadratic formula got to with measuring the ditance between
2 points in Euclidean geometry?



|
| If x1 = 0 and x2 = 10, then we get,
|
| AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| AB = sqrt([10 - 0]^2)
| AB = sqrt([10]^2)
| AB = sqrt(100)
| AB = 10
|
| BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| BA = sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| BA = sqrt([-10]^2)
| BA = sqrt(100)
| BA = 10
|
| Therefore AB = BA.

AB = +/- sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)

BA = -/+ sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)

Therefore ABA = 0.
You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
Repeat second grade.

LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
no such classes to fail.




|
| The length of the path ABA is given by, AB + BA, and since AB=BA, then
| ABA = 2AB.

ABA = 0.
You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
Repeat second grade.

LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
no such classes to fail.


|
| We will now check this using x1 = 0 and x2 = 10.
|
| ABA = 2AB
| ABA = 2 * 10
| ABA = 20

This is why you are a Polypropylene Boor, totally artificial, convincing
only yourself. <yawn>

Rest of post ignored.
Androcles.

Ignored because you cant answer, without making yourself seem even more
stupid, if that is possible.



|
| ABA = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2) + sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| ABA = sqrt([10 - 0]^2) + sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| ABA = sqrt(100) + sqrt(100)
| ABA = 10 + 10
| ABA = 20
|
| Therefore, ABA = 2AB.
|
| When something travels along this path it leaves A at time t_A and
| arrives back at A at time t_A', so the duration of travel is,
|
| t_ABA = t_A' - t_A.
|
| The average velocity of something travelling path ABA is then given by,
|
| v = ABA / t_ABA
| v = 2AB / (t_A' - t_A)
|

Given Euclidean geometry and Cartesian co-ordiantes, how do *YOU*
calculate the following:
the distance from point A to point B,
the distance from point B to point A.
.
User: "Sorcerer"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 07:43:12 PM
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant
relativist
| > as
| > | > | > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different
| > flavour.
| > | > | > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental
evidence
| > is
| > | > about
| > | > | > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to
| > convert
| > | > faith
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is
the
| > | > smallest
| > | > | > mass
| > | > | > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it
means
| > that
| > | > a
| > | > | > photon
| > | > | > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper
limit
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as
he
| > is.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m =
h.f
| > /
| > | > c^2
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are
money,
| > money
| > | > | > grows on
| > | > | > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to
the
| > | > compass
| > | > | > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the
magnet,
| > | > what
| > | > | > | > happens
| > | > | > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a
photon
| > can
| > | > have
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit
on
| > | > photon
| > | > | > mass,
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f /
| > c^2.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't
all
| > be
| > | > right.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You
| > believe in
| > | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values
for
| > | > | > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on
photon
| > | > mass,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could
be
| > | > associated
| > | > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give
the
| > mass
| > | > of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that
Planck's
| > | > | > constant is
| > | > | > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance
between
| > those
| > | > 2
| > | > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move
| > from
| > | > point
| > | > | > A to
| > | > | > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path
you
| > have
| > | > | > | > travelled
| > | > | > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have
travelled
| > is
| > | > 20
| > | > | > | > meters.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
| > those 2
| > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves
from
| > | > point A
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
| > | > seconds,
| > | > | > which
| > | > | > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our
| > theory
| > | > plays
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has
| > taken is
| > | > t
| > | > | > =
| > | > | > | > x/c,
| > | > | > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels
x-x
| > in
| > | > time
| > | > | > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets
to
| > the
| > | > | > store
| > | > | > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those
2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then
back
| > to
| > | > | > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20
meters.
| > TRUE
| > | > | > | or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hmm... let me think this through...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
| > | > |
| > | > | I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
| > | >
| > | > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > | > How embarrassing for you.
| >
| >
| > NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
|
| He's not my God.
|
| >
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > We either have:
| > | > | > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus
10
| > | > meters
| > | > | > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20
metres in
| > | > zero
| > | > | > time,
| > | > | > OR
| > | > | >
| > | > | > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t
and -10
| > meters
| > | > | > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in
time
| > 2t.
| > | > |
| > | > | I didn't mention light or velocity.
| > | >
| > | > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > | > How embarrassing for you.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| > | > | to A.
| > | >
| > | > We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
| > | > and Einstein's insanity.
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | The length of the path from A to B is x.
| > | >
| > | > Yes....
| > | >
| > | > | The length of the path from B to A is x.
| > | >
| > | > Nope. it is -x.
| > | >
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | >
| > | > | The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
| > | >
| > | > Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.
| > | >
| > | > | If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?
| > | >
| > | > Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?
| >
| > NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
|
| LOL.
|
| >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > | > | > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > | > | > experiment?
| > | > | > c = 0/0.
| > | > |
| > | > | The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.
| > | >
| > | > Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Answer to your question below:
| > | >
| > | > | > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > | > | > Androcles.
| > | > |
| > | > | Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
| > | >
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | > Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
| > | > think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
| > | > to "take away" class.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | Forget all about Einstein for a moment, I know that it's difficult for
| > | you, but just try.
| >
| > Ok. Let's talk about the weather.
| >
| > |
| > | The distance between 2 points, A(x1, y1, z1) and B(x2, y2, z2), is:
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2 + [y2 - y1]^2 + [z2 -z1]^2)
| >
| > x = +/- sqrt(x^2)
| >
| > You failed sqrt() class, insane moron. Was that truancy too?
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.
"Sice" you skipped English and Math classes to go to Clown school
and learn "LOL" you are not "retasrded".
I'd be embarrassed if I made that many goofs in a three line paragraph,
insane retard.
|
| >
| > Honestly, you are attempting to win an argument which
| > is futile, you do not have any knowledge of mathematics.
|
| Yes it is well known that the insane are unreasonable, so I do not
| expect you to listen to reason. I just like making dun of your
| stupidity.
The "dun" is all mine, insane "retasrd". Yellow pages let
your fingers to do walking, did they?
|
| >
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If we assume that point A and point B are both positioned on the
| > | x-axis, then we get,
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| >
| > x = [-b +/- sqrt(b^2-4ac)]/2a.
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/zgogt
| >
| > Kiddy stuff. SANE kiddy stuff.
|
| What's the quadratic formula got to with measuring the ditance between
| 2 points in Euclidean geometry?
I have no idea what "ditance" is. Some sort of modern dance,
perhaps? Why not sleep on it?
|
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If x1 = 0 and x2 = 10, then we get,
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt([10 - 0]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt([10]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt(100)
| > | AB = 10
| > |
| > | BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([-10]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt(100)
| > | BA = 10
| > |
| > | Therefore AB = BA.
| >
| > AB = +/- sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| >
| > BA = -/+ sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| >
| > Therefore ABA = 0.
| > You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
| > Repeat second grade.
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.
Plastic boor repeats his own errors. Sleep it off. You'll
have a headache in the morning.
|
| >
| >
| >
| > |
| > | The length of the path ABA is given by, AB + BA, and since AB=BA, then
| > | ABA = 2AB.
| >
| > ABA = 0.
| > You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
| > Repeat second grade.
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.
|
| >
| > |
| > | We will now check this using x1 = 0 and x2 = 10.
| > |
| > | ABA = 2AB
| > | ABA = 2 * 10
| > | ABA = 20
| >
| > This is why you are a Polypropylene Boor, totally artificial, convincing
| > only yourself. <yawn>
| >
| > Rest of post ignored.
| > Androcles.
|
| Ignored because you cant answer, without making yourself seem even more
| stupid, if that is possible.
|
| >
| >
| > |
| > | ABA = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2) + sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt([10 - 0]^2) + sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(100) + sqrt(100)
| > | ABA = 10 + 10
| > | ABA = 20
| > |
| > | Therefore, ABA = 2AB.
| > |
| > | When something travels along this path it leaves A at time t_A and
| > | arrives back at A at time t_A', so the duration of travel is,
| > |
| > | t_ABA = t_A' - t_A.
| > |
| > | The average velocity of something travelling path ABA is then given
by,
| > |
| > | v = ABA / t_ABA
| > | v = 2AB / (t_A' - t_A)
| > |
|
| Given Euclidean geometry and Cartesian co-ordiantes, how do *YOU*
| calculate the following:
|
| the distance from point A to point B,
B - A
| the distance from point B to point A.
|
A - B
Sleep it off.
Androcles
.
User: "Golden Boar"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 08:05:39 PM
Sorcerer wrote:

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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:1158510874.324362.136990@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | > |
| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:1158505324.189949.131910@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:1158502048.539337.147640@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | >
| > news:1158457834.963639.281040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant
relativist
| > as
| > | > | > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god, different
| > flavour.
| > | > | > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental
evidence
| > is
| > | > about
| > | > | > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going to
| > convert
| > | > faith
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass is
the
| > | > smallest
| > | > | > mass
| > | > | > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it
means
| > that
| > | > a
| > | > | > photon
| > | > | > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper
limit
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane as
he
| > is.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation m =
h.f
| > /
| > | > c^2
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are
money,
| > money
| > | > | > grows on
| > | > | > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are relative.
| > | > | > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel to
the
| > | > compass
| > | > | > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the
magnet,
| > | > what
| > | > | > | > happens
| > | > | > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a
photon
| > can
| > | > have
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper limit
on
| > | > photon
| > | > | > mass,
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of h.f /
| > c^2.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they can't
all
| > be
| > | > right.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is. You
| > believe in
| > | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of values
for
| > | > | > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit on
photon
| > | > mass,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which could
be
| > | > associated
| > | > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly give
the
| > mass
| > | > of
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that
Planck's
| > | > | > constant is
| > | > | > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance
between
| > those
| > | > 2
| > | > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you move
| > from
| > | > point
| > | > | > A to
| > | > | > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the path
you
| > have
| > | > | > | > travelled
| > | > | > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have
travelled
| > is
| > | > 20
| > | > | > | > meters.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
| > those 2
| > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT moves
from
| > | > point A
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled is 0
| > | > seconds,
| > | > | > which
| > | > | > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in our
| > theory
| > | > plays
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light has
| > taken is
| > | > t
| > | > | > =
| > | > | > | > x/c,
| > | > | > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light travels
x-x
| > in
| > | > time
| > | > | > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he gets
to
| > the
| > | > | > store
| > | > | > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between those
2
| > | > points
| > | > | > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B then
back
| > to
| > | > | > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20
meters.
| > TRUE
| > | > | > | or FALSE?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hmm... let me think this through...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
| > | > |
| > | > | I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
| > | >
| > | > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > | > How embarrassing for you.
| >
| >
| > NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
|
| He's not my God.
|
| >
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | > We either have:
| > | > | > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t plus
10
| > | > meters
| > | > | > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20
metres in
| > | > zero
| > | > | > time,
| > | > | > OR
| > | > | >
| > | > | > B) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t
and -10
| > meters
| > | > | > with velocity -c = -10/t for a total of 10-10 = 0 metres, in
time
| > 2t.
| > | > |
| > | > | I didn't mention light or velocity.
| > | >
| > | > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > | > How embarrassing for you.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > I said if *YOU* travel from A to B
| > | > | to A.
| > | >
| > | > We are not discussing me, moron. We are discussing your insanity
| > | > and Einstein's insanity.
| > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | The length of the path from A to B is x.
| > | >
| > | > Yes....
| > | >
| > | > | The length of the path from B to A is x.
| > | >
| > | > Nope. it is -x.
| > | >
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | >
| > | > | The length of the path from A to B to A is 2x. TRUE or FASLE?
| > | >
| > | > Fazell, of course.You are getting silly now.
| > | >
| > | > | If x = 10, then 2x = 20. TRUE or FASLE?
| > | >
| > | > Not fazell, so must be true. Is dyslexia part of your insanity?
| >
| > NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
|
| LOL.
|
| >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > A is true if time runs backwards, otherwise false.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What were you saying about Virgin's sanity? Check your own.
| > | > | > Did Einstein lead you up the garden path with his thoughtless
| > | > | > experiment?
| > | > | > c = 0/0.
| > | > |
| > | > | The question I'm asking has nothing to with Einstein.
| > | >
| > | > Ok, what is you want to know that I have not already told you?
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Answer to your question below:
| > | >
| > | > | > Being sane myself, the answer to your question is B, FALSE.
| > | > | > Androcles.
| > | > |
| > | > | Only if you redefine 'sane' to mean 'insane'.
| > | >
| > | > Failed "take away" classes when you were a child, didn't you?
| > | > Were you playing truant or just too dumb?
| > | > Either way you are incredibly stupid and boring. Maybe you
| > | > think time runs backwards. If it does you can back
| > | > to "take away" class.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | Forget all about Einstein for a moment, I know that it's difficult for
| > | you, but just try.
| >
| > Ok. Let's talk about the weather.
| >
| > |
| > | The distance between 2 points, A(x1, y1, z1) and B(x2, y2, z2), is:
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2 + [y2 - y1]^2 + [z2 -z1]^2)
| >
| > x = +/- sqrt(x^2)
| >
| > You failed sqrt() class, insane moron. Was that truancy too?
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.

"Sice" you skipped English and Math classes to go to Clown school
and learn "LOL" you are not "retasrded".
I'd be embarrassed if I made that many goofs in a three line paragraph,
insane retard.


|
| >
| > Honestly, you are attempting to win an argument which
| > is futile, you do not have any knowledge of mathematics.
|
| Yes it is well known that the insane are unreasonable, so I do not
| expect you to listen to reason. I just like making dun of your
| stupidity.

The "dun" is all mine, insane "retasrd". Yellow pages let
your fingers to do walking, did they?


|
| >
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If we assume that point A and point B are both positioned on the
| > | x-axis, then we get,
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| >
| > x = [-b +/- sqrt(b^2-4ac)]/2a.
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/zgogt
| >
| > Kiddy stuff. SANE kiddy stuff.
|
| What's the quadratic formula got to with measuring the ditance between
| 2 points in Euclidean geometry?


I have no idea what "ditance" is. Some sort of modern dance,
perhaps? Why not sleep on it?



|
| >
| >
| > |
| > | If x1 = 0 and x2 = 10, then we get,
| > |
| > | AB = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt([10 - 0]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt([10]^2)
| > | AB = sqrt(100)
| > | AB = 10
| > |
| > | BA = sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt([-10]^2)
| > | BA = sqrt(100)
| > | BA = 10
| > |
| > | Therefore AB = BA.
| >
| > AB = +/- sqrt([x2 - x1]^2)
| >
| > BA = -/+ sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| >
| > Therefore ABA = 0.
| > You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
| > Repeat second grade.
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.

Plastic boor repeats his own errors. Sleep it off. You'll
have a headache in the morning.


|
| >
| >
| >
| > |
| > | The length of the path ABA is given by, AB + BA, and since AB=BA, then
| > | ABA = 2AB.
| >
| > ABA = 0.
| > You failed "take away" class and you failed sqrt() class.
| > Repeat second grade.
|
| LOL. Sice you are retasrded you probably has classes devoted to
| teaching you "take away" and "sqrt()". Since I am not reatrded, I had
| no such classes to fail.
|
| >
| > |
| > | We will now check this using x1 = 0 and x2 = 10.
| > |
| > | ABA = 2AB
| > | ABA = 2 * 10
| > | ABA = 20
| >
| > This is why you are a Polypropylene Boor, totally artificial, convincing
| > only yourself. <yawn>
| >
| > Rest of post ignored.
| > Androcles.
|
| Ignored because you cant answer, without making yourself seem even more
| stupid, if that is possible.
|
| >
| >
| > |
| > | ABA = sqrt([x2 - x1]^2) + sqrt([x1 - x2]^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt([10 - 0]^2) + sqrt([0 - 10]^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(10^2) + sqrt(-10^2)
| > | ABA = sqrt(100) + sqrt(100)
| > | ABA = 10 + 10
| > | ABA = 20
| > |
| > | Therefore, ABA = 2AB.
| > |
| > | When something travels along this path it leaves A at time t_A and
| > | arrives back at A at time t_A', so the duration of travel is,
| > |
| > | t_ABA = t_A' - t_A.
| > |
| > | The average velocity of something travelling path ABA is then given
by,
| > |
| > | v = ABA / t_ABA
| > | v = 2AB / (t_A' - t_A)
| > |
|
| Given Euclidean geometry and Cartesian co-ordiantes, how do *YOU*
| calculate the following:
|
| the distance from point A to point B,

B - A

| the distance from point B to point A.
|
A - B
Sleep it off.
Androcles

It appears that I've been infected by the Porat virus.
.
User: "Sorcerer"

Title: Re: The insanity of Plastic Boor. 17 Sep 2006 11:49:49 PM
"Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1158532083.838319.14280@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > news:1158457834.963639.281040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Golden Boar" <goldenboar@hotmail.com> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > news:1158431585.201046.275940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Vergon belives that a photon has mass.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > I know he does, Brass Boor, he's a protestant
| > relativist
| > | > as
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > you are a catholic relativist. Same god,
different
| > | > flavour.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > He's a moron, just like you.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > A photon is an energy transfer across space.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/spin.gif
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > He believes this because the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | upper limit on photon mass from experimental
| > evidence
| > | > is
| > | > | > about
| > | > | > | > 1 *
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | 10-54 kg.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, that's his faith. You are not going
to
| > | > convert
| > | > | > faith
| > | > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > | > logic.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | He thinks that the upper limit on photon mass
is
| > the
| > | > | > smallest
| > | > | > | > mass
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | detected, whereas any sane person would say it
| > means
| > | > that
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > photon
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | could not have a mass greater than it's upper
| > limit
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Let's not bring sanity into it, you're as insane
as
| > he
| > | > is.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | This being the case, he then uses the equation
m =
| > h.f
| > | > /
| > | > | > c^2
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | > thinks
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | thats this is the mass of the photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > A lb of apples costs 35c. Therefore apples are
| > money,
| > | > money
| > | > | > | > grows on
| > | > | > | > | > | > trees.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > c is bollocks anyway, all velocities are
relative.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > How fast does the changing magnetic field travel
to
| > the
| > | > | > compass
| > | > | > | > | > needle?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > If the compass needle is moving relative to the
| > magnet,
| > | > | > what
| > | > | > | > | > happens
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > to it's rate of turn?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | He believes that the minimum frequency which a
| > photon
| > | > can
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hz,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | which makes h.f / c^2 greater than the upper
limit
| > on
| > | > | > photon
| > | > | > | > mass,
| > | > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | thereby proves that the photon has a mass of
h.f /
| > | > c^2.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > That's ok, there are lots of religions, they
can't
| > all
| > | > be
| > | > | > right.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Any sane person
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > You are not sane, you are as stupid as he is.
You
| > | > believe in
| > | > | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > crappy c idea.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > would realise that for an infinte number of
values
| > for
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | f, h.f / c^2 is greater than the upper limit
on
| > photon
| > | > | > mass,
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | > since
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | the upper limit is the largest value which
could
| > be
| > | > | > associated
| > | > | > | > | > with
| > | > | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | photon mass, then h.f / c^2 cannot possibly
give
| > the
| > | > mass
| > | > | > of
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | photon.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | This is even crazier than his insistance that
| > Planck's
| > | > | > | > constant is
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | massive.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Ok, so you are both crazy.. who gives a *****?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance
| > between
| > | > those
| > | > | > 2
| > | > | > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > | > | in 10 meters, then according to Androcles, if you
move
| > | > from
| > | > | > point
| > | > | > | > A to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | point B then back to point A, the length of the
path
| > you
| > | > have
| > | > | > | > | > travelled
| > | > | > | > | > | > | is 0 meters, which means you didn't actually move.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | To sane people, the length of the path you have
| > travelled
| > | > is
| > | > | > 20
| > | > | > | > | > meters.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > If we have two points, A and B, and the distance
between
| > | > those 2
| > | > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | > | > is x meters, then according to Einstein, if LIGHT
moves
| > from
| > | > | > point A
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | > point A, the duration of the path it had travelled
is 0
| > | > | > seconds,
| > | > | > | > which
| > | > | > | > | > | > means its clock stopped; "the velocity of light in
our
| > | > theory
| > | > | > plays
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > | > part of an infinitely great velocity".
| > | > | > | > | > | > To sane people, the time duration of the path light
has
| > | > taken is
| > | > | > t
| > | > | > | > =
| > | > | > | > | > x/c,
| > | > | > | > | > | > a constant velocity doesn't reverse.
| > | > | > | > | > | > NOTE... "CONSTANT" velocity.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > To sane people, in a coordinate system the light
travels
| > x-x
| > | > in
| > | > | > time
| > | > | > | > | > | > t'_A - t_A = 0/0
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Brass Boor is not sane, he goes back home before he
gets
| > to
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > store
| > | > | > | > | > | > to wind his old 1905 half-Hunter because it stopped.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
http://www.stanleylondon.com/dalveyhalfhuntertop.jpg
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | The length of the path is 20 meters. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Constant velocities reverse direction. TRUE or FALSE?
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Androcles
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Constant velocities reverse direction. FALSE
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Ok. Maybe you are not insane.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | If we have two points, A and B, and the distance between
those
| > 2
| > | > | > points
| > | > | > | > | is 10 meters, then if you move from point A to point B
then
| > back
| > | > to
| > | > | > | > | point A, the length of the path you have travelled is 20
| > meters.
| > | > TRUE
| > | > | > | > | or FALSE?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Hmm... let me think this through...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > A constant velocity does not reverse. A reverse c is a -c.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I didn't mention anything constant velocity.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Hey, insane *****, your tin god Einstein said it.
| > | > | > How embarrassing for you.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > NO ANSWER, insane fuckwit?
| > |
| > | He's not my God.
| > |
| > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > We either have:
| > | > | > | > A) Light has travelled 10 meters with a velocity c = 10/t
plus
| > 10
| > | > | > meters
| > | > | > | > with velocity -c =10/-t for a total of t-t = 0 seconds, 20
| > metre