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"words of truth" |
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22 Aug 2005 12:23:47 PM |
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The New Atheist Religion of Transhumanism |
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
Written by Wesley J. Smith
James Hughes may be a bioethicist and a professor of health policy at
Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, but his real calling is as an
evangelist for the nascent materialist quasi-religion of transhumanism.
In this sense, Hughes' first book, Citizen Cyborg, is not merely a
polemic; it is an epistle urging transhumanists to remain true to the
tenets of their faith.
Transhumanists, Hughes tells us, plan to break the constraining chains
of natural human existence through various genetic, computer and
machine "enhancements." But the underlying theme that permeates Hughes'
fervent advocacy is faith in science as the true savior of humankind.
Indeed, his belief in our capacity to exert technological mastery over
life is so wholehearted, he asserts that perhaps within this century,
transhumanist tinkering will free us from most of the ravages of
disease, disability and aging, make up for any inborn lack of talent or
athletic ability, perhaps even lead to the defeat of death itself. Not
only that, but eventually the transhumanized will become so superior to
the merely human that some will evolve themselves into a super race of
"posthumans."
And here's where transhumanism becomes a quasi-religion. The reality of
human suffering and our knowledge that we are born to die, can cast a
dark shadow over even our happiest hours. Historically, humans have
sought succor - some would say escape - in religious teachings that
posit a purpose behind it all and the hope of eventual eternal
transcendence.
But Hughes and most of his fellow transhumanists, being good
materialists, believe that what you see is all you get. Moreover,
transhumanism is nihilistic at its core, holding that being merely
human is wholly inadequate to attaining a truly fulfilled and happy
life. For transhumanists, humans aren't smart enough, strong enough,
pretty enough or healthy enough for life to really be worth living.
Besides, it is all over so soon. To put it crassly, life sucks and then
you die.
Defeat the infidels!
But wait! Salvation is nigh! We may have rejected that old time
religion, but the faith of transhumanism still offers us the
eschatological hope of a new promised land. Through applied science,
genetic engineering, biotech, nanotech, cybertech and every other kind
of tech, we can eliminate suffering, enhance our inadequate capacities,
become self-designing super beings with creative powers akin to gods,
perhaps even attain immortality itself. And we don't even have to pray.
But first, we must defeat the infidels! As with many high priests
before him, Hughes spends almost as much time castigating unbelievers
who threaten the holy project - the dreaded "bioLuddites" - as he
does in promoting his own beliefs. And in the process he undercuts his
arguments badly by engaging in rank caricature and hyperbole. Rather
than grapple seriously with the sober and reasoned arguments of his
philosophical opponents, Hughes instead casts verbal stones. Thus,
early on he asserts that bioLuddites "have given up on the idea of
progress guided by reason," and that by opposing transhumanism, they
are "rejecting liberal democracy, science and modernity."
Nonsense. Public intellectuals such as Leon Kass, the chairman of the
US President's Council on Bioethics who Hughes makes a special point of
repeatedly castigating, are not anti-science, destroyers of progress or
lacking in reason. Indeed, if anything, they have an acute
understanding of human nature, the dangers inherent in utopian projects
- which transhumanism unquestionably is - as well as the historical
evils caused by movements that discarded the intrinsic worth of all
human life in search of a corporeal New Jerusalem.
The dangers of redefining people
Indeed, the dogma of transhumanism opens the door to the worst forms of
oppression - although let me be clear that this is not Hughes'
intent.
First, there is personhood theory, which holds that being human is not
morally relevant per se. Rather, what matters is whether an organism
(or machine) possesses sufficient cognition, say being self-aware, to
be deemed a "person." But once we create subjective criteria for
measuring the moral worth of people, once we say that some humans are
persons and some are something less, the very concept of universal
human rights is lost because moral value becomes a matter of who has
the power to decide who matters more and who matters less - or not at
all. Indeed, Hughes is so intent on destroying human exceptionalism in
order to promote transhumanism that he wants to enhance animals
genetically so that they can verbally communicate and, he thinks,
thereby prove that the measurement of moral worth should not be human
centric.
Illustrating the danger of personhood theory - and the stakes in the
personhood debate - Hughes denigrates human embryos, fetuses,
presumably infants who are, after all, not "self-aware" and those with
profound cognitive disabilities to the status of "property" or
"sentient property." Just as African-American slaves were dehumanized
to justify their oppression, Hughes' invidious categories strip these
human lives from any and all rights, except perhaps to the "right not
to suffer unnecessarily."
Since babies are not persons under Hughes' self-aware personhood
standard, this would presumably include permission for infanticide.
(Adding heft to this concern, his favorite philosophers, oft referenced
in Citizen Cyborg, appear to be infanticide proponents Peter Singer and
Jonathan Glover.) This human non-person killing license could also be
coupled with harvesting of cells or organs and/or non-therapeutic
experimentation - ideas already proposed by many bioethicists -
simply to benefit "persons." If one believes that human life matters
simply because it is human, these suggestions are clearly beyond the
pale. But if one adheres to personhood theory, reducing the status of
some human lives into mere natural resources makes logical sense.
"It's all about me"
Another dogma of transhumanism could be summarized with the phrase,
"It's all about me." As I read and pondered what Hughes proposes, I was
struck by the sheer solipsism of it all. Transumanism is obsessed with
me-me, I-I. If being part of a group consciousness rings my bell, I
should be able to do it. If I want to download myself into a computer,
so be it. Perhaps I could become part of a "Borg" collective, as
imagined by the writers of Star Trek. Indeed, in transhumanistic
belief, my individual yearnings over what I want my body to be, are
elevated to the near-absolute right to make it so, even if that means
my redesign will pass down the generations.
In this regard, Hughes asserts that the transhumanizing license should
also include the right to absolutely control the genetic makeup of our
children. But that would not free them to be what they wanted to be: It
would pre-select and fabricate them to be driven by the power of
biology to become what we wanted. And if transhumanizing parents would
be individually fulfilled by creating, say, a disabled child, well
that's the cost of "choice" - although Hughes suggests that such
parents pay to fabricate anti-enhanced children themselves.
Hughes is clearly an intelligent man as well as a very talented writer,
and I have no doubt that Citizen Cyborg will be consumed whole by
committed transhumanists. But I doubt whether the book will have much
of a proselytizing impact. Hughes is far too facile in his faith in the
power of technology to overcome all difficulties. (For example, he
suggests that genetically designed children will simply be able to turn
on and off their genes if they don't like the transhumanized choices
made by their parents.) His assumption that greater intelligence would
ipso facto lead to happier lives is misguided. (Some of the happiest
people I have ever met were developmentally disabled. Some of the
unhappiest were intellectuals.) His assurance that the dark eugenic
heart of transhumanism would result in more freedom rather than
coercion and oppression is naive. (Indeed, in a telling section, he
suggests that "we are obliged not only to choose children without
disabilities, but also to create enhanced children, so long as the
enhancements are safe and available." Would such a duty require parents
of Down's children to abort or that disabled babies be killed if they
can't be cured?) His prescription of "democratic transhumanism," in
which a future world government would pay everyone on the planet to
genetically redesign themselves and their progeny to assure equal
access to posthumanity, seems utterly ludicrous. (We do, after all,
live in a world where war never ceases and millions of children die
from malnutrition, measles, and malaria.)
As for wisdom: I didn't find much in Citizen Cyborg. For that important
human virtue, I'll take Leon Kass.
This article originally appeared in BetterHumans.com.
Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and a
special consultant to the Center for Bioethics and Culture.
http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0%2C1703%2CA%253D159439%2526M%253D200170%2C00.html
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: The New Atheist Religion of Transhumanism |
22 Aug 2005 02:32:29 PM |
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"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
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An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
<snip crap>
Can you have an "Atheist" religion?
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| User: "John Schilling" |
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22 Aug 2005 06:21:23 PM |
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In article <3sKdnT0TRK_ptZfeRVnyhw@pipex.net>, T Wake says...
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1124731427.228680.266420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
<snip crap>
Can you have an "Atheist" religion?
If by "Atheist" you mean disbelief in any hypothetical supreme being,
then yes, certainly. Belief in a supreme being is not a necessary or
defining atribute of "religion".
In practice, it is common to expansively define "god" as the focus
of any religious belief, even if not manifest as a deity, and "atheist"
as the rejection of all religious belief, even the sorts that do not
require a deity. OTOH, it is also common to expansively define "religion"
as encompassing all definite, fundamental philosophical systems including
those which offer a definite "No" to traditional religious questions.
So, given the expansive definition of "atheist" it is not possible to
have an atheist religion, and given the expansive definition of "religion"
atheism *is* a religion. Pick one. Then proceed to confuse everyone else
by using your preferred terminology without explanation :-)
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| User: "T Wake" |
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22 Aug 2005 06:41:13 PM |
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"John Schilling" <schillin@spock.usc.edu> wrote in message
news:dedmlj01sj9@drn.newsguy.com...
So, given the expansive definition of "atheist" it is not possible to
have an atheist religion, and given the expansive definition of "religion"
atheism *is* a religion. Pick one. Then proceed to confuse everyone else
by using your preferred terminology without explanation :-)
That sounds good to me.
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| User: "Nick" |
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22 Aug 2005 07:55:35 PM |
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Separation of Atheism and the State.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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23 Aug 2005 02:12:38 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Separation of Atheism and the State.
Separation of Nick and the Internet.
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| User: "WCB" |
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22 Aug 2005 06:00:22 PM |
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T Wake wrote:
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1124731427.228680.266420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
<snip crap>
Can you have an "Atheist" religion?
Why sure, son. Its the only true religion they is.
--
Xenu is around and about,
mention Hubbard, Xenu pops out!
No way for the clams to stamp Xenu out,
Xenu is around and about!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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22 Aug 2005 02:44:26 PM |
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on 22 Aug 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet T Wake (taswakeAt@hotmail.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:
"words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1124731427.228680.266420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
<snip crap>
Can you have an "Atheist" religion?
Buddhism would be an example. Atheism by itself is not a religion,
though.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
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| User: "akalaniz" |
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11 Sep 2005 04:22:00 PM |
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I'm nuclear weapons physicist at Los Alamos National Laboratory, and
I'm quite proud to say Dr. J interviewed me 3 Sep 2005 about my new
scifi book which treats BOTH the perils/promises of our accelerating
science and technology that will lead--unless we are squased by a
meteor--to transhumanism.
If your interested in my interview (Part I) or my book, please go to
the Changesurfer Radio web page and click on my picture (Alex Alaniz).
Counter to you sir, I think that Citizen Cyborg is a fantastic, well
researched book about how to make the world better for all us, not, as
you imply, about being selfish.
Sincerely,
Alex
PS--I will start a topic on why I believe religion and faith in some
god is so dangerous it must die.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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22 Aug 2005 01:46:25 PM |
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In episode <1124731427.228680.266420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, words
of truth burst into the room and exclaimed:
The New Atheist Religion of Transhumanism
Still unclear on the concept of "religion" I see...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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22 Aug 2005 04:01:04 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 13:46:25 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrotC:DRIVE_E
In episode <1124731427.228680.266420@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, words
of truth burst into the room and exclaimed:
The New Atheist Religion of Transhumanism
Still unclear on the concept of "religion" I see...
It's like trying to describe 'color' to someone blind since birth. The
religious cannot conceive of seeing the world without religion, so, to
them, every worldview is, somehow, a 'religion'.
There's no way to convince them otherwise -- they lack the capacity to
comprehend a non-religious worldview. Not worth your time and effort.
*----------------------------------------------------*
Evolution doesn't take prisoners:Lizard
"I've heard of this thing men call 'empathy', but I've never
once been afflicted with it, thanks the Gods." Bruno The Bandit
http://www.mrlizard.com
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22 Aug 2005 01:20:00 PM |
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On 22 Aug 2005 10:23:47 -0700, "words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com>
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Jeezus H. fucking Christ, Raytard. Why don't you just crawl in a fucking hole
and die?
<PLONK!> for the millionth time.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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22 Aug 2005 05:22:51 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On 22 Aug 2005 10:23:47 -0700, "words of truth" <wordsoftruth21@lycos.com>
wrote:
Jeezus H. fucking Christ, Raytard. Why don't you just crawl in a fucking
hole
and die?
<PLONK!> for the millionth time.
Attacking the imbeciles of the religious right is *my* 'religion.' So is
Green Bay Packer football.
Greywolf
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23 Aug 2005 01:46:52 AM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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| "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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| > On 22 Aug 2005 10:23:47 -0700, "words of truth"
<wordsoftruth21@lycos.com>
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| > Jeezus H. fucking Christ, Raytard. Why don't you just crawl in a
fucking
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| > <PLONK!> for the millionth time.
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| Attacking the imbeciles of the religious right is *my* 'religion.' So
is
| Green Bay Packer football.
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| Greywolf
I dunno why the ***** the stupid thoughtless bastards have gotta raise
the noise-to-signal ratio for sci.physics.
I don't teach math in their church, why do they preach trash in mine?
My plonk list just keeps growing, I hope I've got enough RAM for it all.
Androcles
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| User: "Joseph Hertzlinger" |
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23 Aug 2005 12:58:09 AM |
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On 22 Aug 2005 10:23:47 -0700, words of truth
<wordsoftruth21@lycos.com> wrote:
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
ObSF: According to Stapledon, the Fourth Men (the first artificial
human species) didn't get anywhere near understanding the Star Maker
.... so you may have a point.
And here's where transhumanism becomes a quasi-religion. The reality of
human suffering and our knowledge that we are born to die, can cast a
dark shadow over even our happiest hours. Historically, humans have
sought succor - some would say escape - in religious teachings that
posit a purpose behind it all and the hope of eventual eternal
transcendence.
ObSF: According to Lovecraft, "That is not dead which can eternally
lie, And with strange aeons even death may die"
Illustrating the danger of personhood theory - and the stakes in the
personhood debate - Hughes denigrates human embryos, fetuses,
presumably infants who are, after all, not "self-aware" and those with
profound cognitive disabilities to the status of "property" or
"sentient property."
ObSF: According to H. G. Wells, humans are four-dimensional beings, so
an embryo is a vitally-important non-sentient part of a sentient being
.... not much different from a heart.
As for the severely brain-damaged... one of the characters in
"Marooned in Realtime" by Vernor Vinge said that he knew somone who
was almost decorticate but was able to lead a partly-normal life by
intelligence amplification:
| "You know, we had a mascot: a poor, sweet girl, close to
| anencephalic. Even with prosthesis she was scarcely brighter than
| you or I. Most of the time she was happy." The expression on his
| face was wistful, puzzled. "And most of the time, I am happy, too."
You can think of this as a matter of artificial intelligence acting as
a substitute for the natural kind.
Another dogma of transhumanism could be summarized with the phrase,
"It's all about me." As I read and pondered what Hughes proposes, I was
struck by the sheer solipsism of it all. Transumanism is obsessed with
me-me, I-I. If being part of a group consciousness rings my bell, I
should be able to do it. If I want to download myself into a computer,
so be it. Perhaps I could become part of a "Borg" collective, as
imagined by the writers of Star Trek.
They're so individualist, they become collectivists? Run that by me
again.
Indeed, in transhumanistic belief, my individual yearnings over what
I want my body to be, are elevated to the near-absolute right to
make it so, even if that means my redesign will pass down the
generations.
ObSF: The Maurai agent in "Orion Shall Rise" by Poul Anderson who
regarded being a genetic experiment as preferable to not existing.
Come to think of it, you can make the same point about unwanted
children.
--
http://hertzlinger.blogspot.com
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11 Sep 2005 05:48:58 PM |
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words of truth wrote:
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
Written by Wesley J. Smith
James Hughes may be a bioethicist and a professor of health policy at
Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, but his real calling is as an
evangelist for the nascent materialist quasi-religion of transhumanism.
In this sense, Hughes' first book, Citizen Cyborg, is not merely a
polemic; it is an epistle urging transhumanists to remain true to the
tenets of their faith.
Transhumanists, Hughes tells us, plan to break the constraining chains
of natural human existence through various genetic, computer and
machine "enhancements." But the underlying theme that permeates Hughes'
fervent advocacy is faith in science as the true savior of humankind.
Indeed, his belief in our capacity to exert technological mastery over
life is so wholehearted, he asserts that perhaps within this century,
transhumanist tinkering will free us from most of the ravages of
disease, disability and aging, make up for any inborn lack of talent or
athletic ability, perhaps even lead to the defeat of death itself. Not
only that, but eventually the transhumanized will become so superior to
the merely human that some will evolve themselves into a super race of
"posthumans."
And here's where transhumanism becomes a quasi-religion. The reality of
human suffering and our knowledge that we are born to die, can cast a
dark shadow over even our happiest hours. Historically, humans have
sought succor - some would say escape - in religious teachings that
posit a purpose behind it all and the hope of eventual eternal
transcendence.
But Hughes and most of his fellow transhumanists, being good
materialists, believe that what you see is all you get. Moreover,
transhumanism is nihilistic at its core, holding that being merely
human is wholly inadequate to attaining a truly fulfilled and happy
life. For transhumanists, humans aren't smart enough, strong enough,
pretty enough or healthy enough for life to really be worth living.
Besides, it is all over so soon. To put it crassly, life sucks and then
you die.
Defeat the infidels!
But wait! Salvation is nigh! We may have rejected that old time
religion, but the faith of transhumanism still offers us the
eschatological hope of a new promised land. Through applied science,
genetic engineering, biotech, nanotech, cybertech and every other kind
of tech, we can eliminate suffering, enhance our inadequate capacities,
become self-designing super beings with creative powers akin to gods,
perhaps even attain immortality itself. And we don't even have to pray.
But first, we must defeat the infidels! As with many high priests
before him, Hughes spends almost as much time castigating unbelievers
who threaten the holy project - the dreaded "bioLuddites" - as he
does in promoting his own beliefs. And in the process he undercuts his
arguments badly by engaging in rank caricature and hyperbole. Rather
than grapple seriously with the sober and reasoned arguments of his
philosophical opponents, Hughes instead casts verbal stones. Thus,
early on he asserts that bioLuddites "have given up on the idea of
progress guided by reason," and that by opposing transhumanism, they
are "rejecting liberal democracy, science and modernity."
Nonsense. Public intellectuals such as Leon Kass, the chairman of the
US President's Council on Bioethics who Hughes makes a special point of
repeatedly castigating, are not anti-science, destroyers of progress or
lacking in reason. Indeed, if anything, they have an acute
understanding of human nature, the dangers inherent in utopian projects
- which transhumanism unquestionably is - as well as the historical
evils caused by movements that discarded the intrinsic worth of all
human life in search of a corporeal New Jerusalem.
The dangers of redefining people
Indeed, the dogma of transhumanism opens the door to the worst forms of
oppression - although let me be clear that this is not Hughes'
intent.
First, there is personhood theory, which holds that being human is not
morally relevant per se. Rather, what matters is whether an organism
(or machine) possesses sufficient cognition, say being self-aware, to
be deemed a "person." But once we create subjective criteria for
measuring the moral worth of people, once we say that some humans are
persons and some are something less, the very concept of universal
human rights is lost because moral value becomes a matter of who has
the power to decide who matters more and who matters less - or not at
all. Indeed, Hughes is so intent on destroying human exceptionalism in
order to promote transhumanism that he wants to enhance animals
genetically so that they can verbally communicate and, he thinks,
thereby prove that the measurement of moral worth should not be human
centric.
Illustrating the danger of personhood theory - and the stakes in the
personhood debate - Hughes denigrates human embryos, fetuses,
presumably infants who are, after all, not "self-aware" and those with
profound cognitive disabilities to the status of "property" or
"sentient property." Just as African-American slaves were dehumanized
to justify their oppression, Hughes' invidious categories strip these
human lives from any and all rights, except perhaps to the "right not
to suffer unnecessarily."
Since babies are not persons under Hughes' self-aware personhood
standard, this would presumably include permission for infanticide.
(Adding heft to this concern, his favorite philosophers, oft referenced
in Citizen Cyborg, appear to be infanticide proponents Peter Singer and
Jonathan Glover.) This human non-person killing license could also be
coupled with harvesting of cells or organs and/or non-therapeutic
experimentation - ideas already proposed by many bioethicists -
simply to benefit "persons." If one believes that human life matters
simply because it is human, these suggestions are clearly beyond the
pale. But if one adheres to personhood theory, reducing the status of
some human lives into mere natural resources makes logical sense.
"It's all about me"
Another dogma of transhumanism could be summarized with the phrase,
"It's all about me." As I read and pondered what Hughes proposes, I was
struck by the sheer solipsism of it all. Transumanism is obsessed with
me-me, I-I. If being part of a group consciousness rings my bell, I
should be able to do it. If I want to download myself into a computer,
so be it. Perhaps I could become part of a "Borg" collective, as
imagined by the writers of Star Trek. Indeed, in transhumanistic
belief, my individual yearnings over what I want my body to be, are
elevated to the near-absolute right to make it so, even if that means
my redesign will pass down the generations.
In this regard, Hughes asserts that the transhumanizing license should
also include the right to absolutely control the genetic makeup of our
children. But that would not free them to be what they wanted to be: It
would pre-select and fabricate them to be driven by the power of
biology to become what we wanted. And if transhumanizing parents would
be individually fulfilled by creating, say, a disabled child, well
that's the cost of "choice" - although Hughes suggests that such
parents pay to fabricate anti-enhanced children themselves.
Hughes is clearly an intelligent man as well as a very talented writer,
and I have no doubt that Citizen Cyborg will be consumed whole by
committed transhumanists. But I doubt whether the book will have much
of a proselytizing impact. Hughes is far too facile in his faith in the
power of technology to overcome all difficulties. (For example, he
suggests that genetically designed children will simply be able to turn
on and off their genes if they don't like the transhumanized choices
made by their parents.) His assumption that greater intelligence would
ipso facto lead to happier lives is misguided. (Some of the happiest
people I have ever met were developmentally disabled. Some of the
unhappiest were intellectuals.) His assurance that the dark eugenic
heart of transhumanism would result in more freedom rather than
coercion and oppression is naive. (Indeed, in a telling section, he
suggests that "we are obliged not only to choose children without
disabilities, but also to create enhanced children, so long as the
enhancements are safe and available." Would such a duty require parents
of Down's children to abort or that disabled babies be killed if they
can't be cured?) His prescription of "democratic transhumanism," in
which a future world government would pay everyone on the planet to
genetically redesign themselves and their progeny to assure equal
access to posthumanity, seems utterly ludicrous. (We do, after all,
live in a world where war never ceases and millions of children die
from malnutrition, measles, and malaria.)
As for wisdom: I didn't find much in Citizen Cyborg. For that important
human virtue, I'll take Leon Kass.
This article originally appeared in BetterHumans.com.
Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and a
special consultant to the Center for Bioethics and Culture.
http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0%2C1703%2CA%253D159439%2526M%253D200170%2C00.html
I visit this forum to read and learn what little I can, as well as to
escape from the ubiquitous fundie trolling most elsewhere. I rarely
post, and then only to ask a question. If you wish to discuss myth,
please do it elsewhere.
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11 Sep 2005 07:39:23 PM |
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Hlafordlaes wrote:
words of truth wrote:
An Epistle for the New Religion of Transhumanism
Written by Wesley J. Smith
James Hughes may be a bioethicist and a professor of health policy at
Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, but his real calling is as an
evangelist for the nascent materialist quasi-religion of transhumanism.
In this sense, Hughes' first book, Citizen Cyborg, is not merely a
polemic; it is an epistle urging transhumanists to remain true to the
tenets of their faith.
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http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0%2C1703%2CA%253D159439%2526M%253D200170%2C00.html
I visit this forum to read and learn what little I can, as well as to
escape from the ubiquitous fundie trolling most elsewhere. I rarely
post, and then only to ask a question. If you wish to discuss myth,
please do it elsewhere.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
The "Christian Zombie" is *NOT* interested in discussing
anything... Right now.
He is trying to spread doubt, and uncertainty.
The Christian myth bull-***** comes later, by the other Zombies.
Transhumanism is humans attempt to explore the *FULL* capabilities
of humans, by using *ANYTHING* that works, with its results easily
demonstrated.... *BEYOND... A REASONABLE DOUBT* to anyone, such as
Cell Phones, Internet, HBO satellites, Without using Angels wings...
etc.. ---> http://www.transhumanism.org/
GOD'S CREATOR
...That was my only sin... :(
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Wise men challenge the unknown seeking more wisdom, others
fall on their hands and knees, close their eyes... and mumble...
Todays U.S. Holy Wars News:
http://www.antiwar.com
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12 Sep 2005 02:33:36 PM |
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Transcend transhumanism. Believe in pantheism and cybernetics.
Religion and science become identical. The Universe becomes a complete
and consistent system, immune from Godel. Like that Tyson guy who was
a boxer and sold chickens - "It's a mind boggling expereince". I love
you. What was your name again?????
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| User: "Hlafordlaes" |
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11 Sep 2005 05:50:52 PM |
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The forum refered to in my previous post is sci.physics <only>
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| User: "Chris Krolczyk" |
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11 Sep 2005 04:37:37 PM |
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words of truth wrote:
Wesley J. Smith is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and a
special consultant to the Center for Bioethics and Culture.
Ah. The DI. So *that* explains where WoT copied the boilerplate
from. It figures.
BTW, just in case somebody wants to get the other side of the
story, this link was pointed out by a member of a SF fandom-
related mailing list that I run:
http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/index/
-Chris Krolczyk
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