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User: "Deweiv10"
Date: 10 Jan 2004 10:43:09 AM
Object: The Paradox of Zeno
The Paradox of Zeno

The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
required. One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has
been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a target
at a distance, L, and the time of flight is divided into intervals. In the
first interval, the arrow covers half of the distance to the target and, in
each succeeding interval of time, it covers half of the remaining distance.
Under the line of reasoning presented, the arrow never reaches the target
because, after each successive interval of time, one half of the distance to
the target that existed at the beginning of the interval remains.
The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken seriously
by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been recognized as a form
of trickery. If one accepts that in each successive interval of time the arrow
traveled half of the remaining distance to the target, he must also accept that
each of those successive intervals of time is half of the duration of the
interval which preceded it. As a result, under the Paradox of Zeno, not only
does the arrow never reach the target, the elapsed time of its flight never
reaches the time, T, when the arrow would reach the target.
There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a
cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior to
the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe that the
arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES
NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET
WHEN IT SHOULD.
To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which
requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution
should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental capacity
of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process.
The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm .
EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE
HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST
BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.
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User: "S. Enterprize Company"

Title: Re: The Paradox of Zeno 12 Jan 2004 03:20:02 AM

The Paradox of Zeno

The Paradox of Zeno is 2000 years old and its apparent ability to prove
that all motion is impossible was not resolved until the mathematical
techniques of Calculus became available, even though that technique is not
required. One form of the paradox describes the flight of an arrow which has
been shot at a target. The arrow is shot at a constant velocity, V, to a
target
at a distance, L, and the time of flight is divided into intervals. In the
first interval, the arrow covers half of the distance to the target and, in
each succeeding interval of time, it covers half of the remaining distance.
Under the line of reasoning presented, the arrow never reaches the target
because, after each successive interval of time, one half of the distance to
the target that existed at the beginning of the interval remains.

The author finds it incredible that this paradox has been taken
seriously
by intelligent men for over two millennia and has not been recognized as a
form
of trickery. If one accepts that in each successive interval of time the
arrow
traveled half of the remaining distance to the target, he must also accept
that
each of those successive intervals of time is half of the duration of the
interval which preceded it. As a result, under the Paradox of Zeno, not only
does the arrow never reach the target, the elapsed time of its flight never
reaches the time, T, when the arrow would reach the target.

There is no paradox in the Paradox of the Zeno. As long as one allows a
cheap trick to fool him into considering only those events which occur prior
to
the arrival of the arrow at the target, he most certainly will believe that
the
arrow never reaches the target. The reality is that THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES
NOT SLOW AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET
WHEN IT SHOULD.

This is correct. But in different gravitational fields time can be altered (
or be different) between two different observers in different gravitational
fields.
Clocks do run at different speeds in different gravitational fields.
Shoot an arrow with the same force in two different gravitational fields,
and see which arrow hits the target first. There is a time difference.


To find the Paradox of Zeno be seriously considered as a topic which
requires a level of mathematics beyond simple arithmetic for its resolution
should lead a reasonable man to have serious doubts as to the mental capacity
of the individuals who are engaged in the teaching process.

The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999) located at http://www.members.aol.com/einsteinhoax/site.htm
.
EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE
HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT
MUST
BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.

Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a
regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as
they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts,
please
do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read
at
the Website. This posting is merely a summary.

For a response send E-Mail to



The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 5
years.
In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL
PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have
mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone
provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the
material at the Website will be withdrawn.

Smart's Alt. Physics News Group
http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=3320272813&cpv=1
S. Enterprize (Science Journal)
http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/
.
User: "Jim Greenfield"

Title: Re: The Paradox of Zeno 12 Jan 2004 10:37:31 PM
For F* sake! Put a bloody blindfold on the arrow so it can't see the
halfway, and it will hit the target on time!
The End
Jim G
.


User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: The Paradox of Zeno 10 Jan 2004 01:13:01 PM
Deweiv10 wrote:


The Paradox of Zeno

A set of four paradoxes dealing with counterintuitive aspects of
continuous space and time
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ZenosParadoxes.html
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: The Paradox of Zeno 10 Jan 2004 12:38:59 PM
Deweiv10 wrote:


The Paradox of Zeno
[snip]

Psychotic ineducable boring spammer retic (Ernest Wittke),
You see yourself this way,
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The entire remainder of the planet sees you this way,
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http://www.apa.org/journals/psp/psp7761121.html
http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu/~siegel/quack.html
<http://www.firehead.org/~jessh/film/kubrick/Kubrick-Psycho.html>
<http://www.naturalchild.com/elliott_barker/prisons.html>

The source material for this posting may be found in "Gravity" (1987),
"The Einstein Hoax" (1997), and "Corrections to Residual Errors in Special
Relativity (1999)

[snip]
Hey, stooopid spammer Ernest Wittke - Do you want EVIDENCE? Each of
the 24 GPS satellites carries either four cesium atomic clocks or
three rubidum atomic clocks in orbit, with full relativistic
corrections being applied.
http://arXiv.org/abs/hep-th/0307140
GR structure, especially Part 4/p. 7
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume4/2001-4will/index.html>
Experimental constraints on General Relativity.
<http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper20.pdf>
Nature 425 374 (2003)
<http://rattler.cameron.edu/EMIS/journals/LRG/Articles/Volume6/2003-1ashby/index.html>
http://www.eftaylor.com/pub/projecta.pdf
Relativity in the GPS system
http://arXiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401086
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0312071
Deeply relativistic neutron star binaries
Special Relativity is physics on a topologically trivial Lorentzian
manifold with a metric whose curvature tensor is zero. This is a
perfectly diffeomorphism-invariant condition and does not require
any particular coordinate choice. It is invariant under
the full group of diffeomorphisms. The Poincare group is
the group of *isometries* of the metric in special relativity.
The Special Relativity metric is *non-dynamical* (unlike GR). It
defines the coupling *constants* of your theory. If you change the
metric in any nontrivial way you are changing your theory. An
operation can only be called a "symmetry" of a special-relativistic
(non-gravitational) theory if it preserves the metric, and therefore
the symmetry of special-relativistic theories is the Poincare group
only. General Relativity (gravitation) has a dynamic metric.
NIM A 355 537 (1995)
Physics Letters B 328 103 (1994)
Physical Review Letters 64 1697 (1990)
Physical Review Letters 39 1051 (1977)
Physical Review 135 B1071 (1964)
Physics Letters 12 260 (1964)
Europhysics Letters 56(2) 170-174 (2001)
General Relativity and Gravitation 34(9) 1371 (2002)
http://fourmilab.to/etexts/einstein/specrel/specrel.pdf
<http://www.geocities.com/physics_world/sr/ae_1905_error.htm>
<http://www.physics.gatech.edu/people/faculty/finkelstein/relativity.pdf>
http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/Paper6.pdf
http://users.powernet.co.uk/bearsoft/LPHrel.html
Longitudinal and transverse mass
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/gpsuser/gpsuser.pdf
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/sigspec/default.htm
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pubs/gps/icd200/default.htm
http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.html
http://sirius.chinalake.navy.mil/satpred/
http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html
http://egtphysics.net/GPS/RelGPS.htm
http://www.schriever.af.mil/gps/Current/current.oa1
http://edu-observatory.org/gps/gps_books.html
<http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html>

If anyone
provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the
material at the Website will be withdrawn.

Right, like your head has ever been withdrawn from your ***** - even
when you *****.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
.

User: "Jeff Relf"

Title: Re: The Paradox of Zeno 10 Jan 2004 02:47:19 PM
Hi Deweiv10 , Re: The Paradox of Zeno ,
You shout ,
" The reality is that
THE PASSAGE OF TIME DOES NOT SLOW
AS THE ARROW APPROACHES THE TARGET
AND THE ARROW REACHES THE TARGET WHEN IT SHOULD "
For metaphysical purposes ,
Instead of assuming :
There was something before the big bang ...
Assume :
A scientist who's scale of the space-timescape-energyscape
changes as he approaches ( but never reaches )
the notional singularity of the big bang .
To us mere humans , it would look like this :
At 10 ^ -X seconds after the big bang ,
as X approaches infinity ,
the degrees Kelvin approaches infinity .
And at 10 ^ X years after the big bang ,
as X approaches infinity ,
the degrees Kelvin approaches zero .
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