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Science > Physics |
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"Clifford J. Nelson" |
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24 Mar 2005 09:01:39 PM |
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The physics of music. |
In article <cjnelson9-864986.02063213112004@news.verizon.net>,
"Clifford J. Nelson" <> wrote:
Stan Freberg presents: a bell note.---
The voices on Volume Two of Stan Freberg Presents The United States of
America are annoying, so, I said "Stan Freberg knows more about the
sound quality of spoken words than anybody else; I have to find out how
to get the voices on that CD to sound great". I did it: there are two
knobs on each Pioneer DSS-7 mirror image speakers I use; turn the mid
range knob to almost nothing and the high end knob a little more than
that and then the voices are entertaining, and the four Bix Beiderbecke
Story CDs are great too, now. That was a big surprise to me, I thought
Stan Freberg had become an alcoholic and the Bix CDs were counterfeit or
something. I can change the equalization and it changes the word
"Borneo" to "Corneo" or "Porneo". There was no standard equalization
curve for records in the USA until about 1956, so, everybody has to
guess what Bix's cornet really sounded like. I still can't demonstrate
how good 35 year old pop music was to my young nieces and nephews, and
my parents couldn't 35 years ago either. The equalization can bring out
of tune music in tune. Two hours after Ronald Reagan died the TV played
his voice and it sounded annoying, out of tune. Two weeks after Frank
Sinatra died the radio played the first song I've ever heard him sing
out of tune on. www.bixbeiderbecke.com says it well, "Through his music,
Bix is alive".
The Pythagoreans said mathematics was:
1) arithmetic
2) geometry
3) music
4) astronomy
Maybe 3 and 4 are out of order, I can't remember.
I'm looking for some web sites about the mathematics of music and the
equalization curves that will bring great musicians back to life so to
speak. I don't know where to start looking.
An open letter to Randy Brian:
From:
Subject: Are your broadcasts desafinado?
Dear Randy,
Here are some things I have posted to some USENET newsgroups.
Equalization curves:
I think Europe used the CCIR equalization curve or the new name ITU or
something like that instead of the US standard RIAA curve for records. I
ought to explain myself: I won a fifty dollar jackpot on the nickel slot
machines at the EM club in Bamberg Germany in 1966 and put ten dollars
back in and hit again. I used the ninety dollars and some more to buy a
Philips stereo record player with two small speakers. It had a wooden
case. The three Beatles albums Rubber Soul, Revolver, and Sgt. Pepper's
sounded very very good. Make that (very)^3. I can't get any music system
in the USA to sound that good or even in tune. I was in Germany again in
1975 and heard a song ("Indian Love Call" by Ray Stevens) from the radio
in a Mercedes-Benz bus and the announcer said "ausgezeitnich" as if she
were saying the word "delicious". I agreed and I bought the album when I
got back to the States, but, it is no good on any system I've tried
here. Everything you plug into or out of can change the equalization,
but I think it can be made to sound good with a graphic equalizer.
There was no standard equalization curve for records in the USA until
about 1956, so, try to guess what Bix Beiderbecke's cornet really
sounded like in 1927. I can change the word "Borneo" to "Corneo" or
"Porneo" in the lyrics to one of Bix's songs with an equalizer.
http://www.kspc.org/ "Forward Into The Past" from 2 PM to 5 PM Sundays
California time plays a lot of good music from 1925-1945. It is very
good if it is equalized correctly, but how can it be done?
Then, months later, I wrote:
I apologize for misleading anyone about US music systems.
I realized that I have bought thousands of dollars of Japanese equipment
since 1969 (there was nothing else in the stores), so, I remembered an
old American name Harman Kardon and got an HK 3380 receiver and HKTS 14
5.1 speakers and a DVD-31 player and spent about 18 hours trying
different cables and wires and speaker positions. I discovered the
"secret of the tetrahedron" for two channel stereo: The subwoofer on
the floor in the middle, two satellite speakers for the left and two for
the right channels raised on stands that are shoulder length high. The
listening position is at the fourth vertex of a tetrahedron and I look
straight ahead to the center of area of an equilateral triangle whose
corners are the left and right channels and the subwoofer.
The base notes are in tune and in sync and everything is just right in
the following songs and maybe I'm on the right track to finding an
equalization curve that will demonstrate how good the great musicians of
the past really were.
Rubber Soul track one, Revolver track one, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
Club Band track eight, Yellow Submarine track four, Clockwork Orange
soundtrack track three.
I thought it would be a good idea to ask an expert. Should I buy one of
those new turntables and vinyl records to listen to 1925-1945 music or
get CDs and play them on the DVD 31 (audiophile-grade digital to analog
converters!). It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music.
Bucky Fuller wrote that when something annoys you it is because it is
somehow at the wrong frequency. He went to Brazil few times and he was a
comprehensivist, so, this isn't too far off topic is it?
I listened to the album GETZ/GILBERTO over and over about forty years
ago on a Harman/Kardon stereo system my brother had because it sounded
so good. I have ignored it for more than thirty five years because it
just didn't sound good anymore on different music systems. Now I'm
starting to get paranoid about the Internet translations from Portuguese
to English of the titles of the third and forth tracks which are "To
hurt my reputation" and "Untuned". Is it a message from Brazil recorded
March 18 & 19, 1963 in New York City, that has taken so long to reach me
here in California? Does it reveal a vast conspiracy or something? How
can I get a good translation from Portuguese to English of every song
from that great album?
I got an email from the List for the discussion of Buckminster Fuller's
work.
Dear Clifford
if you wish I can send you my italian translation-version
of DESAFINADO (STONATO=OUT OF TUNE)
It is interesting that when Jobim sings the term desafinado
he puts a desafinato accord also !!!
(Playng in fa, the accord is sol 7b5)
......Tu mi accusi sempre di stonare un po'
sfortunatamente non ne ho colpa no....
biagio
The newsgroup rec.music.brazilian had this to say:
Try this web-site for some pretty good translations to english...
http://www.etc.ch/~jason/tabs.html
...although some of the translated phrases I would disagree with. But
most of it looks good!
Anyway, almost the entire Getz/Gilberto album is done for you there.
And
you can double check with some portuguese speakers here.
And someone also said "desafinado" means "off key".
Here is another translation, Slightly Out Of Tune (Desafinado).
http://kokomo.ca/pop_standards/slightly_out_of_tune_lyrics.htm
Look for the headings "Equalization" and "Desafinado" in the newsgroups
sci.lang.translation and rec.music.brazilian and soc.culture.brazil and
rec.music.beatles and rec.audio.pro to see what people have to say.
What would you think if I sang out of tune?
Would you stand up and walk out on me?
Are your broadcasts of Forward Into the Past desafinado for some
listeners because they don't have the right equipment?
I'm not promoting any particular kind of music. I heard a bugle call on
an Air Force base about 1982 and I liked it (very)^3 much. It was just
one long note, no melody, no harmony, no lyrics, no tremolo, no vibrato.
I don't know how many overtones a bugle has or what they are, but, they
were just right. That's what I like. Any song, any instrument, but, in
tune.
Cliff Nelson
Dry your tears, there's more fun for your ears,
"Forward Into The Past" 2 PM to 5 PM, Sundays,
California time, at: http://www.kspc.org/
Don't be a square or a blockhead; see:
http://users.adelphia.net/~cnelson9/
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
25 Mar 2005 07:33:26 AM |
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"Clifford J. Nelson" <cjnelson9@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:cjnelson9-110327.19013824032005@news.verizon.net...
I thought it would be a good idea to ask an expert. Should I buy one of
those new turntables and vinyl records to listen to 1925-1945 music or
get CDs and play them on the DVD 31 (audiophile-grade digital to analog
converters!). It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music.
I'm no expert,
but here's my take on this.
1. The double-branched hippocampus in the brain
tries to correlate two strings of sensory and memory data.
In the waking state, sensory data predominates, and
in the sleeping state, memory data predominates.
2. High correlations cause the glands to secrete,
which in turn causes glandular secretions
which in turn causes the body to react.
3. Sounds are highly correlated with body movement and visual input.
Musical rhythm involves the correlation of sound with body motion,
including breathing, beating of the heart, limb movement,
head nodding, foot tapping, hand clapping, marching, etc.
Syncopation is when an expected correlation does not occur,
and the body reacts to the input expected on the other hippocampus branch.
As the mind works tries to correlate sight and motion with sound input,
jumpy, useless videos can be turned into works of art,
by adding an appropriate sound track.
For example, I add jumpy sound tracks
like "On the road again" to jumpy videos
taken out of car and bus windows
to salvage bad videos.
As there is a sort of correlation inertia
in the hippocampus/glandular/reaction system,
it would be informative to conduct experiments
involving a wide range of sound/sight inputs
that are known to have certain "correlations signatures",
such as variable time delays, out of phase ( Between ear and eye)
sine, rectangular, quasi-random inputs,
variable noise background, etc.
Perhaps a high I.Q. partly involves
spotting correlations in high background noise,
and one could measure a persons visual I.Q.,
aural I.Q. or tactile I.Q. using the appropriate signals.
Of course memory and seeing and hearing acuity
also affects I.Q. I dare say that Blacks have a much higher
aural I.Q. than other folks. I used to subject students to
precisely knows sound frequencies, and ask them to
remember the sound, and some Blacks could
precisely identify a particular frequency days later.
I never tries this with amplitude,
as I had no way of precisely knowing
what the sound intensity was at their ear.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 08:18:10 AM |
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3aii99F6b2catU1@individual.net...
"Clifford J. Nelson" <cjnelson9@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:cjnelson9-110327.19013824032005@news.verizon.net...
I thought it would be a good idea to ask an expert. Should I buy one of
those new turntables and vinyl records to listen to 1925-1945 music or
get CDs and play them on the DVD 31 (audiophile-grade digital to analog
converters!). It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music.
I'm no expert,
but here's my take on this.
1. The double-branched hippocampus in the brain
tries to correlate two strings of sensory and memory data.
In the waking state, sensory data predominates, and
in the sleeping state, memory data predominates.
2. High correlations cause the glands to secrete,
which in turn causes glandular secretions
which in turn causes the body to react.
3. Sounds are highly correlated with body movement and visual input.
Musical rhythm involves the correlation of sound with body motion,
including breathing, beating of the heart, limb movement,
head nodding, foot tapping, hand clapping, marching, etc.
Syncopation is when an expected correlation does not occur,
and the body reacts to the input expected on the other hippocampus branch.
As the mind works tries to correlate sight and motion with sound input,
jumpy, useless videos can be turned into works of art,
by adding an appropriate sound track.
For example, I add jumpy sound tracks
like "On the road again" to jumpy videos
taken out of car and bus windows
to salvage bad videos.
As there is a sort of correlation inertia
in the hippocampus/glandular/reaction system,
it would be informative to conduct experiments
involving a wide range of sound/sight inputs
that are known to have certain "correlations signatures",
such as variable time delays, out of phase ( Between ear and eye)
sine, rectangular, quasi-random inputs,
variable noise background, etc.
Perhaps a high I.Q. partly involves
spotting correlations in high background noise,
and one could measure a persons visual I.Q.,
aural I.Q. or tactile I.Q. using the appropriate signals.
Of course memory and seeing and hearing acuity
also affects I.Q. I dare say that Blacks have a much higher
aural I.Q. than other folks. I used to subject students to
precisely knows sound frequencies, and ask them to
remember the sound, and some Blacks could
precisely identify a particular frequency days later.
I never tries this with amplitude,
as I had no way of precisely knowing
what the sound intensity was at their ear.
I forgot to address the gestalt of the post
I responded to which was basically
what equipment one needs to stir old feelings.
Clifford J. Nelson" posted:
"It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music."
With today's audio editors and audio players,
you can shape old captured sounds any way you like,
but you will never have the same emotional reaction to a sound,
or other stimuli, as you once did,
because you have changed,
and no longer sense, and react to stimuli,
as you did 35 years ago.
( Or for that matter, one year ago.)
For example, the natural rhythms of your body
( Head nodding, foot tapping, swaying, etc. )
have changed because the spring/mass systems of
you body have changed, and of course,
all of the other systems such as your hearing, seeing,
memory, information processing, etc.
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you
cannot step into the same river twice."
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "hanson" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 12:25:19 PM |
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3al994F68phfmU2@individual.net...
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you cannot step into the same river twice."
But you, Tom, you have managed regardless of these
limitations not only to step into but how to dance and
cajole in your own rivers of *****, continuously, ...That's
some grand Potterian Physics. Congratulations!...
AHAHAHA... ahahaha... ahahanson
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| User: "Clifford J. Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 08:36:19 AM |
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In article <3al994F68phfmU2@individual.net>,
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3aii99F6b2catU1@individual.net...
"Clifford J. Nelson" <cjnelson9@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:cjnelson9-110327.19013824032005@news.verizon.net...
I thought it would be a good idea to ask an expert. Should I buy one of
those new turntables and vinyl records to listen to 1925-1945 music or
get CDs and play them on the DVD 31 (audiophile-grade digital to analog
converters!). It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music.
I'm no expert,
but here's my take on this.
1. The double-branched hippocampus in the brain
tries to correlate two strings of sensory and memory data.
In the waking state, sensory data predominates, and
in the sleeping state, memory data predominates.
2. High correlations cause the glands to secrete,
which in turn causes glandular secretions
which in turn causes the body to react.
3. Sounds are highly correlated with body movement and visual input.
Musical rhythm involves the correlation of sound with body motion,
including breathing, beating of the heart, limb movement,
head nodding, foot tapping, hand clapping, marching, etc.
Syncopation is when an expected correlation does not occur,
and the body reacts to the input expected on the other hippocampus branch.
As the mind works tries to correlate sight and motion with sound input,
jumpy, useless videos can be turned into works of art,
by adding an appropriate sound track.
For example, I add jumpy sound tracks
like "On the road again" to jumpy videos
taken out of car and bus windows
to salvage bad videos.
As there is a sort of correlation inertia
in the hippocampus/glandular/reaction system,
it would be informative to conduct experiments
involving a wide range of sound/sight inputs
that are known to have certain "correlations signatures",
such as variable time delays, out of phase ( Between ear and eye)
sine, rectangular, quasi-random inputs,
variable noise background, etc.
Perhaps a high I.Q. partly involves
spotting correlations in high background noise,
and one could measure a persons visual I.Q.,
aural I.Q. or tactile I.Q. using the appropriate signals.
Of course memory and seeing and hearing acuity
also affects I.Q. I dare say that Blacks have a much higher
aural I.Q. than other folks. I used to subject students to
precisely knows sound frequencies, and ask them to
remember the sound, and some Blacks could
precisely identify a particular frequency days later.
I never tries this with amplitude,
as I had no way of precisely knowing
what the sound intensity was at their ear.
I forgot to address the gestalt of the post
I responded to which was basically
what equipment one needs to stir old feelings.
Clifford J. Nelson" posted:
"It's been more than 35 years since I have felt goose
pimples from recorded music."
With today's audio editors and audio players,
you can shape old captured sounds any way you like,
but you will never have the same emotional reaction to a sound,
or other stimuli, as you once did,
because you have changed,
and no longer sense, and react to stimuli,
as you did 35 years ago.
( Or for that matter, one year ago.)
For example, the natural rhythms of your body
( Head nodding, foot tapping, swaying, etc. )
have changed because the spring/mass systems of
you body have changed, and of course,
all of the other systems such as your hearing, seeing,
memory, information processing, etc.
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you
cannot step into the same river twice."
I have read the expression "suffering from nostalgia" more than one
hundred times in newspapers during the last 40 years. And also "the good
old days weren't so good after all". The main point of my post is that
that is a big lie! Read it again. The equalizations are changed on
purpose. The new improved modern version of history is actually a lie.
Cliff Nelson
Dry your tears, there's more fun for your ears,
"Forward Into The Past" 2 PM to 5 PM, Sundays,
California time, at: http://www.kspc.org/
Don't be a square or a blockhead; see:
http://users.adelphia.net/~cnelson9/
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| User: "Double-A" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 08:59:29 AM |
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Tom Potter wrote:
I'm no expert,
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 10:21:24 AM |
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"Double-A" <double-a@hush.ai> wrote in message
news:1111849169.645245.255690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Tom Potter wrote:
I'm no expert,
I'm no expert when it comes to spotting
immature, bushwhacking flamers,
but it sure looks like "Double-A" is one.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
26 Mar 2005 02:28:40 PM |
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Tom Potter wrote:
I'm no expert when it comes to spotting
immature, bushwhacking flamers,
but it sure looks like "Double-A" is one.
"Double-A" spotted you Potter!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
02 Apr 2005 09:28:53 PM |
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GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley,
etc.
As can be seen,
the sci.physics rat pack
follows me around to listen to my music.
No doubt,
I am the Piped Piper of sci.physics.
I keep the rats busy,
so they don't bother the good folks.
--
Tom Potter
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
02 Apr 2005 09:43:14 PM |
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wrote:
GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley,
etc.
As can be seen,
the sci.physics rat pack
follows me around to listen to my music.
No doubt,
I am the Piped Piper of sci.physics.
I keep the rats busy,
so they don't bother the good folks.
--
Tom Potter
No you're just a cranky old troll full of self delusions, Potter!
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| User: "GR_GR" |
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02 Apr 2005 10:15:07 PM |
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wrote:
GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley,
etc.
Thanks for putting me on the forefront of your list.
It was hoped that your absence was due to your death.
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| User: "hanson" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
03 Apr 2005 03:18:35 AM |
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"GR_GR" <nyb@colorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d2nqke$jc1$2@peabody.colorado.edu...
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:jOh1e.4675$gI5.224@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3al994F68phfmU2@individual.net...
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you cannot step into the same river twice."
[hanson]
But you, Tom, you have managed regardless of these
limitations not only to step into but how to dance and
cajole in your own rivers of *****, continuously, ...That's
some grand Potterian Physics. Congratulations!...
AHAHAHA... ahahaha... ahahanson
tdp1001@gmail.com aka Tom Potter wrote:
GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley,
etc.
follows me around to listen to my music.
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper of sci.physics.
[GR_GR]
Thanks for putting me on the forefront of your list.
It was hoped that your absence was due to your death.
[hanson]
Now, now... GR don't drift towards and into Potter's cerebral
lowlands & don't wish death upon him. Let him suffer instead!
He is fun like all such rectilian pile drivers who think that
they are so supremely important that their NG "message" will
change the world... They are preciously hilarious. Let them
"sing" & enjoy watching their self-inflicted suffering... ahahaha...
There is already a good number of sub-intellectuals
here at this NG cyber party whose only claim to fame is to
advocate the murder of their imagined enemies. Little do
these fanatical boogers know that they are exactly like the
qualities they hate in their imagined enemies whom they
suspect are out to murder them... ahahaha....
Nourish their paranoia and have fun with them... ahahahaha!
Foremost amongst such cyber heroes and by far the most
prodigious one is "genocidering" ersatz rabbi Bob Kolker with
his large scale final solution for millions, followed by Vendickarse
DickArian, aka Scott Nudds, the loud Chairman of the 3 member
strong RBC the "Re-Born Communist" party, who is comparatively
modest by compiling his list now to hang several hundred
thousand of "Repubilcans" (his choice of spelling), and then
there is Tom Potter, tpd 101, the yellow Pinko, who is more
specific and just want to see a blood fest for Bush and Family.
Typically for his ilk, tpd doesn't have enough class nor sufficient
morals to apologize to the ladies he advocated to be murdered
and then pissed on.
In flight-school we labeled that kind: "Big Mouth... Small *****..."
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS:
[Tom]
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper...
[hanson]
Yo, Tom, no doubt you're having wet dreams about being
a Piped Piper? What "Piped Pipe" where you sucking on?
Or did you call yourself Piped Piper because you were
not nearly as pied as the old Pied Piper? Is it a Freudian
slip again with you letting the world know that you suffer
from a lack of morals, as there is no piety in you, Tom?
Thanks for all the laughs again, you old obnoxious fart.
ahahaha.... ahahanson
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
03 Apr 2005 04:13:39 AM |
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Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying,
distorting, nasty insults, etc.
I have driven him off the deep end.
Of course, it wasn't a drive,
it was more like a putt.
It was interesting to see that Harry projected
his small ***** onto me.
Harry once walked into a wall with a hard on,
and broke his nose.
I suspect that his Rabbi
took a little too much off.
A little more,
and Harry would be working as a eunuch
in some Emperor's harem.
( Or singing tenor.)
--
Tom Potter
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| User: "hanson" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
03 Apr 2005 10:57:04 AM |
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...... ahahahahaha...... AHAHAHAHA...... ahahahaha....
Tom-Tom CrackPotter <tdp1001@gmail.com> cranked himself
grievously, barked and whined, instead of apologizing to the Ladies
he, Tom tdp, advocated to murder and then to ***** on, in his
news:1112519619.217670.71770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
in retort to hanson's
news:vFN3e.1508$N13.1055@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
[Cracked Pottler]
Poor Harry Hyena hanson! Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying, distorting,
nasty insults, etc. -- I have driven him off the deep end.
Of course, it wasn't a drive, it was more like a putt.
It was interesting to see that Harry projected his small
***** onto me. Harry once walked into a wall with a hard
on, and broke his nose. I suspect that his Rabbi took
a little too much off. A little more, and Harry would be
working as a eunuch in some Emperor's harem.
( Or singing tenor.)
Tom Potter
[hanson]
......ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... Tom-Tom, why
do you have that uncontrolled yearning and fetish to turn
me into one of the kind of people you loath, the Jews, and
then in your next highly exited breath you see me as a Muslim,
your friends?... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHahaha...
But seriously Tom-Tom, which of the following items was
it that caused you to produce your unbridled dis-jubilation
about/against me ?.... was it because
a) you are a *rectilian pile driver* ( with a "c" not "p")
b) you are a *yellow Pinko* who doesn't have enough
class nor sufficient morals to apologize to the ladies.
c) Potterites were labeled with: "Big Mouth... Small *****..."
d) you don't wanna say what "Piped Pipe" you're sucking on?
e) you did let the world know that you suffer from a lack
of morals, as there is no piety in you, Tom?
ahahaha...... AHAHAHA... ahahaha.....
Here, Tom-Tom, *for your exclusive benefit *, is my delightful post
again. It's a fine and benevolent oberservation which dealt with your
tragi-comic cyber character that is so bent to **instigate** some
instigating that was instigated by instigators, long before you came
along and discovered that there were Johnny-come-lately instigators
of the Jewish extraction which you took exception to and led you to
advocate the murder of Bush and family and then to ***** on them.
Oh yeah, Tom-Tom, why is it that on the one hand you bitterly
complain that people follow you around and then quickly cerebrate
that they read your notions about instigators and you even urge
them to join you? ... Tom-Tom: "Cake+Eat it".... that won't work!
------ REPOSTED FOR TOM POTTER'S BENEFIT: ----------
news:vFN3e.1508$N13.1055@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"GR_GR" <nyb@colorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d2nqke$jc1$2@peabody.colorado.edu...
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:jOh1e.4675$gI5.224@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3al994F68phfmU2@individual.net...
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you cannot step into the same river twice."
[hanson]
But you, Tom, you have managed regardless of these
limitations not only to step into but how to dance and
cajole in your own rivers of *****, continuously, ...That's
some grand Potterian Physics. Congratulations!...
AHAHAHA... ahahaha... ahahanson
tdp1001@gmail.com aka Tom Potter wrote:
GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley, etc.
follows me around to listen to my music.
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper of sci.physics.
[GR_GR]
Thanks for putting me on the forefront of your list.
It was hoped that your absence was due to your death.
[hanson]
Now, now... GR don't drift towards and into Potter's cerebral
lowlands & don't wish death upon him. Let him suffer instead!
He is fun like all such rectilian pile drivers who think that
they are so supremely important that their NG "message" will
change the world... They are preciously hilarious. Let them
"sing" & enjoy watching their self-inflicted suffering... ahahaha...
There is already a good number of sub-intellectuals
here at this NG cyber party whose only claim to fame is to
advocate the murder of their imagined enemies. Little do
these fanatical boogers know that they are exactly like the
qualities they hate in their imagined enemies whom they
suspect are out to murder them... ahahaha....
Nourish their paranoia and have fun with them... ahahahaha!
Foremost amongst such cyber heroes and by far the most
prodigious one is "genocidering" ersatz rabbi Bob Kolker with
his large scale final solution for millions, followed by Vendickarse
DickArian, aka Scott Nudds, the loud Chairman of the 3 member
strong RBC the "Re-Born Communist" party, who is comparatively
modest by compiling his list now to hang several hundred
thousand of "Repubilcans" (his choice of spelling), and then
there is Tom Potter, tpd 101, the yellow Pinko, who is more
specific and just want to see a blood fest for Bush and Family.
Typically for his ilk, tpd doesn't have enough class nor sufficient
morals to apologize to the ladies he advocated to be murdered
and then pissed on.
In flight-school we labeled that kind: "Big Mouth... Small *****..."
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS:
[Tom]
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper...
[hanson]
Yo, Tom, no doubt you're having wet dreams about being
a Piped Piper? What "Piped Pipe" where you sucking on?
Or did you call yourself Piped Piper because you were
not nearly as pied as the old Pied Piper? Is it a Freudian
slip again with you letting the world know that you suffer
from a lack of morals, as there is no piety in you, Tom?
Thanks for all the laughs again, you old obnoxious fart.
ahahaha.... ahahanson
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04 Apr 2005 07:20:39 AM |
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It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
suggest that all instigators of war-for-profit, are Jews.
As can be seen by the examples of Bush, Blair
and Cheny, this is not the case.
And all Jews are not instigators of conflict and war,
and more than all Gypsies are fortune tellers.
I love good Jews, good Muslims and all good folks,
but I do hate people who instigate conflict and war,
no matter what race or religion they are.
I am still hoping that Harry Hyena
will join with me in exposing and chastizing,
the people who instigate conflict and war,
as this is the greatest root cause of mankind's misery.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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04 Apr 2005 10:52:23 AM |
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Pinko abberant Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112617239.562120.103500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
suggest that all instigators of war-for-profit, are Jews.
[hanson]
ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... *If* that were so, Tom-Tom,
then you must be a Jew, albeit a broke and penniless one
because it was YOU who **instigated** the advocacy to
murder of Bush & Family in a blood fest and then to ***** on
them, but refuses now to apologize to the ladies, the prez
and the Nation. Apologize now, you immoral and amoral *****!
Now, what's equally "interesting to see", "as can be seen" is
that you, Tom-Tom Crack Potter, are not able to count past
6. There are some Jews who instigate, indeed. Here, let me
give you an example of that, to show you the difference between
"six" and "all".... ahahahaha... so that your anti-Semitic pinko
heart may sing with joy and such that your decrepit and parched
intellect may again realize the difference between "some" and
"all"... ahahaha... unless... your pinko-yellow philosophy tells
you, according to your flubber tutorial, that "some" equals "all"...
Tom, can you remember Paul Wolfowitz? Paul who, with a bunch of
other Jews like Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Rob Loewenberg, David
Wurmser & Meyrav Wurmser et.al, instigated/agitated/poked/stirred
up and goaded Bush to go into Iraq.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA....
NOW, Tom-Tom, it looks like, as a measure of gratitude, that Paul
Wolfowitz, the chief Architect of the Iraq war, is gonna become the
boss of the World bank... with the blessings of the Euros... AHAHAHA...
Isn't it a wonderful world, wherein this handful of Jews make you
Tom-Tom, so paranoid and frightened that you see in these "six"
"all" Jews,... ahahaha... but, isn't it really the jealousy on your part,
Potter, because they were successful instigators and you are not!
See Tom, Paul has money. You don't. - Successful instigating pays,
Potter! - If you ever become a better peddler then you might make
some money too from your own instigations! Still, Potter, even then
I won't join you, because you even turn against folks who agree
with you... "as can be seen" in your postings..... ahahaha...
[Pinko aberrant Tom Potter]
I am still hoping that Harry Hyena will join with me
in exposing and chastizing, the people who instigate
conflict and war, as this is the greatest root cause of
mankind's misery. -- Tom Potter
[hanson]
No Sale, Tom-Tom. I'd much rather side with Jews than
with you, Potter, a yellow US expatriate who leans so far
Left that he falls over himself exposing his aberrant
Red Commie notions and beliefs. ***** you, miserable *****,
Tom, for even asking me that I should join a turd like you
who has advocated the murder of Bush & Family in
a blood fest and then to ***** on them, but refuses now to
apologize to the ladies, the prez and the Nation.
Here, below are the details of your sordid behavior:
------ REPOSTED FOR TOM POTTER'S BENEFIT: ----------
...... ahahahahaha...... AHAHAHAHA...... ahahahaha....
Tom-Tom CrackPotter <tdp1001@gmail.com> cranked himself
grievously, barked and whined, instead of apologizing to the Ladies
he, Tom tdp, advocated to murder and then to ***** on, in his
news:1112519619.217670.71770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
in retort to hanson's
news:vFN3e.1508$N13.1055@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
[Cracked Pottler]
Poor Harry Hyena hanson! Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying, distorting,
nasty insults, etc. -- I have driven him off the deep end.
Of course, it wasn't a drive, it was more like a putt.
It was interesting to see that Harry projected his small
***** onto me. Harry once walked into a wall with a hard
on, and broke his nose. I suspect that his Rabbi took
a little too much off. A little more, and Harry would be
working as a eunuch in some Emperor's harem.
( Or singing tenor.)
Tom Potter
[hanson]
......ahahaha... AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... Tom-Tom, why
do you have that uncontrolled yearning and fetish to turn
me into one of the kind of people you loath, the Jews, and
then in your next highly exited breath you see me as a Muslim,
your friends?... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHahaha...
But seriously Tom-Tom, which of the following items was
it that caused you to produce your unbridled dis-jubilation
about/against me ?.... was it because
a) you are a *rectilian pile driver* ( with a "c" not "p")
b) you are a *yellow Pinko* who doesn't have enough
class nor sufficient morals to apologize to the ladies.
c) Potterites were labeled with: "Big Mouth... Small *****..."
d) you don't wanna say what "Piped Pipe" you're sucking on?
e) you did let the world know that you suffer from a lack
of morals, as there is no piety in you, Tom?
ahahaha...... AHAHAHA... ahahaha.....
Here, Tom-Tom, *for your exclusive benefit *, is my delightful post
again. It's a fine and benevolent oberservation which dealt with your
tragi-comic cyber character that is so bent to **instigate** some
instigating that was instigated by instigators, long before you came
along and discovered that there were Johnny-come-lately instigators
of the Jewish extraction which you took exception to and led you to
advocate the murder of Bush and family and then to ***** on them.
Oh yeah, Tom-Tom, why is it that on the one hand you bitterly
complain that people follow you around and then quickly cerebrate
that they read your notions about instigators and you even urge
them to join you? ... Tom-Tom: "Cake+Eat it".... that won't work!
------ REPOSTED FOR TOM POTTER'S BENEFIT: ----------
news:vFN3e.1508$N13.1055@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"GR_GR" <nyb@colorado.edu> wrote in message
news:d2nqke$jc1$2@peabody.colorado.edu...
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:jOh1e.4675$gI5.224@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Tom Potter" <tdp@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3al994F68phfmU2@individual.net...
As a Greek philosopher said 2400 years ago,
"You cannot step into the same river twice.",
And as I suggest:
"The same you cannot step into the same river twice."
[hanson]
But you, Tom, you have managed regardless of these
limitations not only to step into but how to dance and
cajole in your own rivers of *****, continuously, ...That's
some grand Potterian Physics. Congratulations!...
AHAHAHA... ahahaha... ahahanson
tdp1001@gmail.com aka Tom Potter wrote:
GR_GR
Harry Hyena hanson,
Wormley, etc.
follows me around to listen to my music.
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper of sci.physics.
[GR_GR]
Thanks for putting me on the forefront of your list.
It was hoped that your absence was due to your death.
[hanson]
Now, now... GR don't drift towards and into Potter's cerebral
lowlands & don't wish death upon him. Let him suffer instead!
He is fun like all such rectilian pile drivers who think that
they are so supremely important that their NG "message" will
change the world... They are preciously hilarious. Let them
"sing" & enjoy watching their self-inflicted suffering... ahahaha...
There is already a good number of sub-intellectuals
here at this NG cyber party whose only claim to fame is to
advocate the murder of their imagined enemies. Little do
these fanatical boogers know that they are exactly like the
qualities they hate in their imagined enemies whom they
suspect are out to murder them... ahahaha....
Nourish their paranoia and have fun with them... ahahahaha!
Foremost amongst such cyber heroes and by far the most
prodigious one is "genocidering" ersatz rabbi Bob Kolker with
his large scale final solution for millions, followed by Vendickarse
DickArian, aka Scott Nudds, the loud Chairman of the 3 member
strong RBC the "Re-Born Communist" party, who is comparatively
modest by compiling his list now to hang several hundred
thousand of "Repubilcans" (his choice of spelling), and then
there is Tom Potter, tpd 101, the yellow Pinko, who is more
specific and just want to see a blood fest for Bush and Family.
Typically for his ilk, tpd doesn't have enough class nor sufficient
morals to apologize to the ladies he advocated to be murdered
and then pissed on.
In flight-school we labeled that kind: "Big Mouth... Small *****..."
ahahaha... ahahahanson
PS:
[Tom]
No doubt, I am the Piped Piper...
[hanson]
Yo, Tom, no doubt you're having wet dreams about being
a Piped Piper? What "Piped Pipe" where you sucking on?
Or did you call yourself Piped Piper because you were
not nearly as pied as the old Pied Piper? Is it a Freudian
slip again with you letting the world know that you suffer
from a lack of morals, as there is no piety in you, Tom?
Thanks for all the laughs again, you old obnoxious fart.
ahahaha.... ahahanson
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04 Apr 2005 11:16:54 PM |
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Well I must be a pretty good instigator,
as I have Harry Hyena hanson
ranting, raving, threatening, name-calling, lying,
and trying to "instigate":
1. Some nut to assassinate the president,
so he can blame it on Goyim.
2. Some Jewish government employee
to give me a hard time.
3. The Jewish head ot Homeland Security
to give me a hard time.
Frankly, I don't believe Harry Hyena's threat
that Jews in government would be able to successfully
target and hassle a 100%, all-American,
Jeffersonian, free-market advocate, like me.
I assert that the few Jews in government,
who put race and religion above
truth, justice, fairness, and Jeffersonian Principles,
don't control the American people.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "hanson" |
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
05 Apr 2005 12:15:00 AM |
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<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112674614.768706.151600@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Well I must be a pretty good instigator, as I have Harry
Hyena hanson ranting, raving, threatening name-calling,
lying, and trying to "instigate":
1. Some nut [which was him, Tom Potter, the originator himself,]
who has advocated to assassinate Bush and Family in a blood
fest and then to ***** on them], so he can blame it on Goyim,
[because that goyim is named Tom Potter and he alone IS to
blame, for having started it, and is too yellow now to apologize,
even to the ladies]
2. Some Jewish government employee to give me a hard time,
[which is the harvest that he, Tom Potter, has asked for and now
does deserve/get for not apologizing to the Ladies, the Prez
and the Nation for having originated, what he, Tom Potter and
Tom Potter alone, has sown. See details below]
3. The Jewish head ot Homeland Security to give me a hard
time. [ hopefully at Gitmo in a human pyramid where Potter
will be sniffing hard at the pinko assholes of his commie comrades,
if Potter doesn't cough up an apology to the Ladies, the Prez
and the Nation]
Frankly, I don't believe Harry Hyena's threat that Jews in govt.
would be able to successfully target and hassle a 100%,
all-American, Jeffersonian, free-market advocate, like me,
[Tom Potter, who has bragged and challenged the govt. to
make an example of him, IOW, to target & hassle **rightfully**
pinko assholes like Tom Potter, who threatened the Prez and
family and then is too yellow to post a retraction or an apology]
I [Tom-Tom CrackPotter] assert that the few Jews in government,
who put race and religion above truth, justice, fairness, and
Jeffersonian Principles, don't control the American people, [well, if
so, then what are the reasons for Tom-Tom to rail against the Jews]
Tom Potter
Reposted for Tom Potter's benefit to aid his conveniently failing memory:
see all in: news:Xod4e.91$yq6.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Pinko abberant Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112617239.562120.103500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
suggest that all instigators of war-for-profit, are Jews.
[hanson]
ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... *If* that were so, Tom-Tom,
then you must be a Jew, albeit a broke and penniless one
because it was YOU who **instigated** the advocacy to
murder of Bush & Family in a blood fest and then to ***** on
them, but refuses now to apologize to the ladies, the prez
and the Nation. Apologize now, you immoral and amoral *****!
Now, what's equally "interesting to see", "as can be seen" is
that you, Tom-Tom Crack Potter, are not able to count past
6 [nor see] the difference between... "some" and "all"...
ahahaha... unless... your pinko-yellow philosophy tells you,
according to your flubber tutorial, that "some" equals "all"...
Tom, can you remember....
.... and here is the memory link for you, which I will repost
in full until I hear from you, Tom Potter, and apology to the
Ladies, the Prez and the Nation:
news:Xod4e.91$yq6.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Apoplogize now, PinkoPotter... because remember, when the
Rabbi's son's minions do come looking for you and put you into
"Rendition" they will not be as patient with you as I am.
AHHAAHAHA.... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
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05 Apr 2005 09:24:49 AM |
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:o9p4e.776$yq6.615@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112674614.768706.151600@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Well I must be a pretty good instigator, as I have Harry
Hyena hanson ranting, raving, threatening name-calling,
lying, and trying to "instigate":
1. Some nut [which was him, Tom Potter, the originator himself,]
who has advocated to assassinate Bush and Family in a blood
fest and then to ***** on them], so he can blame it on Goyim,
[because that goyim is named Tom Potter and he alone IS to
blame, for having started it, and is too yellow now to apologize,
even to the ladies]
2. Some Jewish government employee to give me a hard time,
[which is the harvest that he, Tom Potter, has asked for and now
does deserve/get for not apologizing to the Ladies, the Prez
and the Nation for having originated, what he, Tom Potter and
Tom Potter alone, has sown. See details below]
3. The Jewish head ot Homeland Security to give me a hard
time. [ hopefully at Gitmo in a human pyramid where Potter
will be sniffing hard at the pinko assholes of his commie comrades,
if Potter doesn't cough up an apology to the Ladies, the Prez
and the Nation]
Frankly, I don't believe Harry Hyena's threat that Jews in govt.
would be able to successfully target and hassle a 100%,
all-American, Jeffersonian, free-market advocate, like me,
[Tom Potter, who has bragged and challenged the govt. to
make an example of him, IOW, to target & hassle **rightfully**
pinko assholes like Tom Potter, who threatened the Prez and
family and then is too yellow to post a retraction or an apology]
I [Tom-Tom CrackPotter] assert that the few Jews in government,
who put race and religion above truth, justice, fairness, and
Jeffersonian Principles, don't control the American people, [well, if
so, then what are the reasons for Tom-Tom to rail against the Jews]
Tom Potter
Reposted for Tom Potter's benefit to aid his conveniently failing memory:
see all in: news:Xod4e.91$yq6.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Pinko abberant Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112617239.562120.103500@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
suggest that all instigators of war-for-profit, are Jews.
[hanson]
ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... *If* that were so, Tom-Tom,
then you must be a Jew, albeit a broke and penniless one
because it was YOU who **instigated** the advocacy to
murder of Bush & Family in a blood fest and then to ***** on
them, but refuses now to apologize to the ladies, the prez
and the Nation. Apologize now, you immoral and amoral *****!
Now, what's equally "interesting to see", "as can be seen" is
that you, Tom-Tom Crack Potter, are not able to count past
6 [nor see] the difference between... "some" and "all"...
ahahaha... unless... your pinko-yellow philosophy tells you,
according to your flubber tutorial, that "some" equals "all"...
Tom, can you remember....
... and here is the memory link for you, which I will repost
in full until I hear from you, Tom Potter, and apology to the
Ladies, the Prez and the Nation:
news:Xod4e.91$yq6.60@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Apoplogize now, PinkoPotter... because remember, when the
Rabbi's son's minions do come looking for you and put you into
"Rendition" they will not be as patient with you as I am.
AHHAAHAHA.... ahahaha... ahahaha... ahahanson
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
has pulled out all the stops
in his efforts to prevent me from posting facts.
He has laughed, called me names, lied, distorted, deleted,
tried to intimidate, tried to get some fellow traveler
in the government to hassle me,
tried to get the head of Homeland Security to lock me up
"hopefully at Gitmo in a human pyramid", etc.
What is it that makes people lie, distort,
call folks nasty names, try to intimidate folks,
and try to get fellow travelers to do harm to folks?
Is it nature?
Or is it nurture?
Is this something in the genes?
Or is this something taught
in a religion class or in the home?
This would make for a very interesting
psychological/sociological study.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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05 Apr 2005 10:07:25 AM |
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message
news:d2u7o0$1qdb$1@mail.cn99.com...
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
has pulled out all the stops in his efforts to prevent
me from posting facts.
[snipped the rest of Tom weasleing and whiniong]
[hanson]
..... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, facts Tom,
facts that you don't want to see reposted, like YOUR
own post(s). I don't prevent you from posting, aux
contraire, as you wish, here are your facts, Tom,
wherein you declared that:
88888888 - start: in Tom Potter's own words - 888888888
[Tom Potter on 16 Jun 2003 :]
Tom:... Hopefully, "hanson" will join with me,..........
Tom:... and begin to slaughter the instigators of conflict and war.
Tom:... most Americans will turn against the Bush's....
Tom:... and join in the blood fest. In fact,.....
Tom:... Bush and his friends, associates, and family and property
Tom:... will be pissed on and destroyed, like Saddam's statues.
Tom:... [& on Jan-20-2004]: Bush is 10 miles high & falling fast.
Tom:... I dare say that he will land with a thud you might see
Tom:... America offering up Bush on a silver platter, basted in oil,
Tom:... to an international "military tribunal" to be tried for "crimes
Tom:... against humanity" before they strangle him and his gang;
Tom:... [Furthermore, Tom Potter bragged on 2 Jul 2003]
Tom:... in <news:bdtnhe$10mf66$1@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de>:
Tom:... Frankly, I'd [Tom] like to see ...the American government to
Tom:... investigate and try to make a case against me, [Tom Potter]
news:_EJSd.2964$MY6.2646@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
news:bcjlsh$k02n1$2@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de...
888888888888 - end: in Potter's own words - 888888888888
Now, First things first, Tom. !!*** hanson does not join you. ***!!
Never mind all your weaseling, cover-up- and whitewash attempts.
Again, Potter, explicitly recant YOUR low class and YOUR hurtful
words against a mom and her two daughters, e.g. Mrs. Bush and
the Bush twins. Apologize Potter! Publicly! Now!, in your retort.
For more Potter, see:
news:38je6kF5nrn4tU2@individual.net and on 03-03-2005 see:
news:5q%Vd.759$oO4.85@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
news:7q%Vd.760$oO4.743@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
So, have some class, Tom, have some decency. Do it! Recant!
You don't wanna be known to your progeny that their dad, Tom,
was an immoral swine with murder on his, Tom's mind, murder
even for the wife and kids of the prez. --- Apologize now, Potter!
hanson
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| Title: Re: The physics of music. |
06 Apr 2005 10:08:11 PM |
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:NQx4e.1222$yq6.956@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message
news:d2u7o0$1qdb$1@mail.cn99.com...
It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson
has pulled out all the stops in his efforts to prevent
me from posting facts.
[snipped the rest of Tom weasleing and whiniong]
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... yeah, yeah, facts Tom,
facts that you don't want to see reposted, like YOUR
own post(s). I don't prevent you from posting, aux
contraire, as you wish, here are your facts, Tom,
wherein you declared that:
88888888 - start: in Tom Potter's own words - 888888888
[Tom Potter on 16 Jun 2003 :]
Tom:... Hopefully, "hanson" will join with me,..........
Tom:... and begin to slaughter the instigators of conflict and war.
Tom:... most Americans will turn against the Bush's....
Tom:... and join in the blood fest. In fact,.....
Tom:... Bush and his friends, associates, and family and property
Tom:... will be pissed on and destroyed, like Saddam's statues.
Tom:... [& on Jan-20-2004]: Bush is 10 miles high & falling fast.
Tom:... I dare say that he will land with a thud you might see
Tom:... America offering up Bush on a silver platter, basted in oil,
Tom:... to an international "military tribunal" to be tried for "crimes
Tom:... against humanity" before they strangle him and his gang;
Tom:... [Furthermore, Tom Potter bragged on 2 Jul 2003]
Tom:... in <news:bdtnhe$10mf66$1@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de>:
Tom:... Frankly, I'd [Tom] like to see ...the American government to
Tom:... investigate and try to make a case against me, [Tom Potter]
news:_EJSd.2964$MY6.2646@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
news:bcjlsh$k02n1$2@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de...
888888888888 - end: in Potter's own words - 888888888888
Now, First things first, Tom. !!*** hanson does not join you. ***!!
Never mind all your weaseling, cover-up- and whitewash attempts.
Again, Potter, explicitly recant YOUR low class and YOUR hurtful
words against a mom and her two daughters, e.g. Mrs. Bush and
the Bush twins. Apologize Potter! Publicly! Now!, in your retort.
For more Potter, see:
news:38je6kF5nrn4tU2@individual.net and on 03-03-2005 see:
news:5q%Vd.759$oO4.85@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
news:7q%Vd.760$oO4.743@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
So, have some class, Tom, have some decency. Do it! Recant!
You don't wanna be known to your progeny that their dad, Tom,
was an immoral swine with murder on his, Tom's mind, murder
even for the wife and kids of the prez. --- Apologize now, Potter!
hanson
It is interesting to see
that Harry Hyena hanson
is foaming at the mouth,
and spewing all kinds of irrational trash,
because I pointed out
that the same gang that
instigated the class wars of the 1900's
migrated to Israel and New York
after the Native Russians regained control of their government,
and the gang is desperately trying instigate
the religious wars of the 2000's,
to get back in the chips
as the loot from their class wars is almost gone.
Maybe Harry is a member of,
or fellow traveler with,
the gang that instigates conflict and war
for power and riches,
and he wants to silence any
criticism of the instigation of war-for-profit.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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06 Apr 2005 10:54:48 PM |
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"Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com> wrote in message
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It is interesting to see that Harry Hyena hanson is foaming
at the mouth, and spewing all kinds of irrational trash,
because I, [me, Tom Potter alone] pointed out [origially] what
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> reposted about me, Potter, in
news:NQx4e.1222$yq6.956@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
which stated:
88888888 - start: in tdp,Tom Potter's own words - 888888888
[Tom Potter on 16 Jun 2003 :]
tdp:... Hopefully, "hanson" will join with me,..........
tdp:... and begin to slaughter the instigators of conflict and war.
tdp:... most Americans will turn against the Bush's....
tdp:... and join in the blood fest. In fact,.....
tdp:... Bush and his friends, associates, and family and property
tdp:... will be pissed on and destroyed, like Saddam's statues.
tdp:... [& on Jan-20-2004]: Bush is 10 miles high & falling fast.
tdp:... I dare say that he will land with a thud you might see
tdp:... America offering up Bush on a silver platter, basted in oil,
tdp:... to an international "military tribunal" to be tried for "crimes
tdp:... against humanity" before they strangle him and his gang;
tdp:... [Furthermore, Tom Potter bragged on 2 Jul 2003]
tdp:... in <news:bdtnhe$10mf66$1@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de>:
tdp:... Frankly, I'd [Tom] like to see ...the American government to
tdp:... investigate and try to make a case against me, [Tom Potter]
news:_EJSd.2964$MY6.2646@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
news:bcjlsh$k02n1$2@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de...
888888888888 - end: in Potter's own words - 888888888888
[hanson]
Really, Tom-Tom.... who exactly is it that is foaming at the
mouth here? .... hahahahaha..... AHAHAHAHA....
[hanson]
Now, First things first, Tom. !!*** hanson does not join you. ***!!
Never mind all your weaseling, cover-up- and whitewash attempts.
Again, Potter, explicitly recant YOUR low class and YOUR hurtful
words against a mom and her two daughters, e.g. Mrs. Bush and
the Bush twins. Apologize Potter! Publicly! Now!, in your retort.
For more Potter, see:
news:38je6kF5nrn4tU2@individual.net and on 03-03-2005 see:
news:5q%Vd.759$oO4.85@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
news:7q%Vd.760$oO4.743@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
So, have some class, Tom, have some decency. Do it! Recant!
You don't wanna be known to your progeny that their dad, Tom,
was an immoral swine with murder on his, Tom's mind, murder
even for the wife and kids of the prez. --- Apologize now, Potter!
hanson
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08 Apr 2005 08:53:14 AM |
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"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
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< Fifty lines of irrational ranting and raving deleted.>
Harry Hyena hanson has gone ballistic
because I pointed out that the same gang
that instigated the class wars of the 1900's,
migrated to Israel and New York,
after the Native Russians regained control of their government,
and they are using Israel and New York as bases
from where to instigate the religious wars of the 2000's,
as the loot from their class wars is almost gone.
As can be seen,
Bush is a willing participant in the war-for-profit and power game,
just as FDR was.
If FDR had gone after the war-for-profit gang
rather than getting in bed with them,
WWII would has lasted two months, and there would have been
no millions of deaths, no holocaust, no Cold War, no Korea, no Vietnam ,
no nuclear weapons, no instigation of global religious war, etc.
If Bush had gone after the war-for-profit gang,
rather than getting in bed with them and Sharon,
there would have been no 9/11, no movement of America
toward a police and military state,
no loss of freedoms to Americans,
no danger to American's at home and abroad,
no shattering of the national budget,
no war on the Iraqi people,
with its' attendant cost, depletion of
non-renewable resources, environmental damage, etc,
no loss of trust by most nations of the world,
no hatred of America by hundreds of millions of Muslims,
no raid on Social Security,
no bankruptcy of major airlines,
no dollar flight,
no meltdown of the dollar,
no meltdown of America,
no weakening of the United Nations,
no weakening of NATO,
etc.
The major weakness of a democracy,
is that immoral, profiteering, manipulators
can effectively buy the government at a low price,
by finding politicians like Bush, Clinton, FDR, Blair, etc.
and giving them the financial and media support
they need to rise above the pack.
As Philip, Alexander the Great's father said,
"There are no city walls so strong,
that they cannot be breached,
if you can get a donkey load of gold up to the wall."
The same is true with a democracy such as America has,
and immoral manipulators steal gold from the masses,
and use the gold to buy more politicians.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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08 Apr 2005 10:25:18 AM |
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The yellow Pinko without morals "Tom Potter" <tdp@hotsheet.com>
instigated again in message news:d362dr$13ua$2@news.wplus.net...
saying:
"hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote in message
news:ca25e.2035$An2.888@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
<Fifty lines of irrational babble deleted.>
[hanson]
....... ahahaha... Is that your apology, Tom-Tom?,... ahahaha...
that you posted irrational babble?... which you wish to be deleted?
..... AHAHAHA..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
It's not enough of an apology, Potter.-- Here are your crimes again,
Potter, YOU instigating terrorism by advocating the murder of
the prez and his family in a blood fest and then to ***** on them.
88888888 - start: in tdp,Tom Potter's own words - 888888888
[Tom Potter on 16 Jun 2003 :]
tdp:... Hopefully, "hanson" will join with me,..........
tdp:... and begin to slaughter the instigators of conflict and war.
tdp:... most Americans will turn against the Bush's....
tdp:... and join in the blood fest. In fact,.....
tdp:... Bush and his friends, associates, and family and property
tdp:... will be pissed on and destroyed, like Saddam's statues.
tdp:... [& on Jan-20-2004]: Bush is 10 miles high & falling fast.
tdp:... I dare say that he will land with a thud you might see
tdp:... America offering up Bush on a silver platter, basted in oil,
tdp:... to an international "military tribunal" to be tried for "crimes
tdp:... against humanity" before they strangle him and his gang;
tdp:... [Furthermore, Tom Potter bragged on 2 Jul 2003]
tdp:... in <news:bdtnhe$10mf66$1@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de>:
tdp:... Frankly, I'd [Tom] like to see ...the American government to
tdp:... investigate and try to make a case against me, [Tom Potter]
news:_EJSd.2964$MY6.2646@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net
news:bcjlsh$k02n1$2@ID-188019.news.dfncis.de...
888888888888 - end: in Potter's own words - 888888888888
[hanson]
Now, First things first, Tom. !!*** hanson does not join you. ***!!
Never mind all your weaseling, cover-up- and whitewash attempts.
Again, Potter, explicitly recant YOUR low class and YOUR hurtful
words against a mom and her two daughters, e.g. Mrs. Bush and
the Bush twins. Apologize Potter! Publicly! Now! and properly,
to the ladies, to the president and to the nation!
For more Potter, see:
news:38je6kF5nrn4tU2@individual.net and on 03-03-2005 see:
news:5q%Vd.759$oO4.85@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
news:7q%Vd.760$oO4.743@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
So, have some class, Tom, have some decency. Do it! Recant!
You don't wanna be known to your progeny that their dad, Tom,
was an immoral swine with murder on his, Tom's mind, murder
even for the wife and kids of the prez. --- Apologize now, Potter!
hanson
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04 Apr 2005 11:20:54 PM |
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Well I must be a pretty good instigator,
What Tom is saying is that he is a pretty good instigator, and proud of it.
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05 Apr 2005 02:00:05 AM |
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In sci.physics, GR_GR
<nyb@colorado.edu>
wrote
on Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:20:54 -0600
<d2t3nb$iqm$4@peabody.colorado.edu>:
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
Well I must be a pretty good instigator,
What Tom is saying is that he is a pretty good instigator, and proud of it.
He may be a good instigator, but that doesn't mean he's
a good investigator. :-)
--
#191,
It's still legal to go .sigless.
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03 Apr 2005 01:16:43 PM |
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wrote:
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying,
distorting, nasty insults, etc.
I have driven him off the deep end.
I suggest that Potter visit the Asperger's Syndrome help group.
They might be able to help him.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger
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05 Apr 2005 09:59:03 AM |
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In message <fqW3e.20927$NW5.8565@attbi_s02>, Sam Wormley
<swormley1@mchsi.com> writes
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying,
distorting, nasty insults, etc.
I have driven him off the deep end.
I suggest that Potter visit the Asperger's Syndrome help group.
They might be able to help him.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger
Inviting complete strangers to send email to one's family looks more
like Williams syndrome.
http://www.williams-syndrome.org/
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Richard Herring
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06 Apr 2005 10:38:09 PM |
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"Richard Herring" <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:1iEzxLf3eqUCFw2a@baesystems.com...
In message <fqW3e.20927$NW5.8565@attbi_s02>, Sam Wormley
<swormley1@mchsi.com> writes
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying,
distorting, nasty insults, etc.
I have driven him off the deep end.
I suggest that Potter visit the Asperger's Syndrome help group.
They might be able to help him.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger
Inviting complete strangers to send email to one's family looks more
like Williams syndrome.
http://www.williams-syndrome.org/
--
Richard Herring
I Goggled "Williams syndrome'
and came up with the following.
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What are the common features of Williams syndrome?
Characteristic facial appearance
Heart and blood vessel problems
Hypercalcemia (elevated blood calcium levels)
Low birth-weight / low weight gain
Feeding problems
Irritability (colic during infancy)
Dental abnormalities
Kidney abnormalities
Hernias
Hyperacusis (sensitive hearing)
Musculoskeletal problems
Overly friendly (excessively social) personality
Developmental delay, learning disabilities and attention deficit
Characteristic facial appearance [back to top]
Most young children with Williams syndrome are described as having similar
facial features.
These features which tend to be recognized by only a trained geneticist or
birth defects specialist,
include a small upturned nose, long philtrum (upper lip length), wide
mouth, full lips, small chin,
and puffiness around the eyes. Blue and green-eyed children with Williams
syndrome
can have a prominent "starburst" or white lacy pattern on their iris.
Facial features become more apparent with age.
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Considering that I have none of these characteristics,
except possibly
"Overly friendly (excessively social) personality",
maybe I am "anti-Williams syndrome".
But there is no doubt that Sam Wormley, Richard Herring,
GR_GR, Varney, Uncle Al, and a few other sci.physics posters
have Asperger's Syndrome.
Symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome.
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There tends to be impairment in two-way social interaction
due in the most part to an inability to understand social behaviour.
A lack of empathy with others and little or no eye contact may be evident.
The person appears to be stuck at the egocentric stage
of social and emotional development and therefore
perceives the world almost exclusively
from their own point of view.
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--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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06 Apr 2005 11:24:53 PM |
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Tom Potter wrote:
But there is no doubt that Sam Wormley, Richard Herring,
GR_GR, Varney, Uncle Al, and a few other sci.physics posters
have Asperger's Syndrome.
Wonder if Potter realizes that these gentlemen have some background in
physics, and I dare say, don't tend to suffer fools like Potter gladly.
Thanks for registering at crank dot net, Potter.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tom+Potter%22+site%3Awww.crank.net
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03 Apr 2005 03:09:22 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
Poor Harry Hyena hanson!
As can be seen by his ranting, raving, lying,
distorting, nasty insults, etc.
I have driven him off the deep end.
I suggest that Potter visit the Asperger's Syndrome help group.
They might be able to help him.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~asperger
Tom Potter is not smart enough to qualify for Asperger's.
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