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25 Jul 2006 08:43:33 AM |
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"The Properties of the Aether" |
"The Properties of the Aether"
Of course there is no such thing as the Aether, it says so right here
in the book that the Aether has been proven not to exist. Unfortunately for
the academic elite, such a proof does not exist. As Dr. Einstein said,
"remember gentlemen, we have not proven that the Aether does not exist, we
have merely proven that we do not need it (for computations)"! Actually, by
combining the Lorentz Transformations provided by Special Relativity to
obtain the Lorentz Transformation for velocity and adding a simple and
physically realizable thought experiment, the existence of an absolute rigid
velocity reference frame is readily proven. See
http://winsteinhoax.com/posting36.htm.
The classical Aether was postulated as a medium which allowed the
transmission of light, which was known to be a wave, through space. When
attempts were made to measure our velocity though the alleged medium the
result was failure. In 1903, Fitzgerald and Larmor provided the Lorentz
Transformations for Length and Time which were later mathematically derived
by Dr. Einstein in the Special Theory of Relativity. Both of these
approaches (which are actually identical) answered the dilemma posed by the
failure of the Michelson-Morely experiment to measure our absolute velocity.
Accepting the Aether as the basic component of space answers many, if
not all, of the problems associated with modern physics. The Aether was
postulated to explain how light, which was known to be a wave, could
propagate through empty space. As shown by Maxwell's Equations, a light wave
consisted of a cyclical interchange of energy between orthogonal
electromagnetic fields in a plane perpendicular to the direction of
propagation and was therefore a shear wave. Since all known waves require a
medium for propagation and shear waves cannot propagate through a fluid, it
was accepted that the medium (the Aether) must be a solid.
Later work suggested that light was composed of particles, which could
travel without a medium, rather than as a wave. It is easy to show, however,
that electromagnetic waves are composed of one cycle "pings" of an
electromagnetic energy traveling in synchronism. <A
href="posting19.htm">Posting 19</A><font size=+1> The velocity of such a
wave and of photons is determined by the permeability and dielectric
constant of space and, if space has such properties, it cannot be merely a
geometric construct as modern physics would have one believe. Attempting to
retain space as a geometric concept devoid of an Aether forced Dirac to a
invent a space filled with negative energy in order to make his mathematical
explanation of the creation of electron-positron pairs from the energy of a
high energy photon. One might wonder haw that space filled with "negative
energy" is any different from a space filled with the classical Aether.
If the Aether is a solid, then two questions must be answered. What is
the Nature of that solid and how do "solid" particles (e.g.- matter) travel
through it. The first question is easily answered by looking at the results
of cosmological observations. If the "solid" Aether is composed of minute
granules, akin to rice pudding, then there should be evidence of chromatic
dispersion of the light from distant objects analogous to the reddening of
Sunlight as it passes through the air molecules of our atmosphere. If the
"solid" Aether discontinuous, akin to jello, then no such dispersion would
occur. To date no chromatic dispersion or light from distant objects seems
to have been reported and it seems safe to assert that the Aether is a
continuous solid.
One is then left with the question of how solid matter can pass through
a solid Aether. The answer which follows is that material particles are not
solid but are actually standing waves (probably electromagnetic). It should
be noted that the work of de Broglie and the theoretical and physical
experiments which followed established the wavelike properties of material
particles early in the 20th century. Such waves would have no more trouble
passing through the Aether than does light. (The nature of particles
including the quarks which compose protons and neutrons etc. is discussed in
http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm and in a posting to follow.
The Aether must be composed of two materials in proximity, a positive
electric field and a negative electric field. (The use of the word field
rather than charge is deliberate since it is quite possible that the
materials are continuous rather than discrete as is the charge of
electrons.) The application of a sufficiently strong electromagnetic field
might then be expected to separate those materials to form an
electron-positron pair.
One more property that the Aether must have if one is to account for
gravity is that the proximity of energy causes a reduction in the ABSOLUTE
velocity of light. (The Lorentz Transformation for Velocity shows that since
the velocity of light is constant when measured locally, it cannot be
constant in ABSOLUTE terms.)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "The Properties of the Aether" |
25 Jul 2006 10:09:04 PM |
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Eht wrote:
"The Properties of the Aether"
Of course there is no such thing as the Aether, it says so right here
in the book that the Aether has been proven not to exist. Unfortunately for
the academic elite, such a proof does not exist. As Dr. Einstein said,
"remember gentlemen, we have not proven that the Aether does not exist, we
have merely proven that we do not need it (for computations)"! Actually, by
combining the Lorentz Transformations provided by Special Relativity to
obtain the Lorentz Transformation for velocity and adding a simple and
physically realizable thought experiment, the existence of an absolute rigid
velocity reference frame is readily proven. See
http://winsteinhoax.com/posting36.htm.
This link is DOA.
Consider the group whom you so off-handedly define as the "academic
elite". From where do they derive this superior status?
In attempting to answer this question, one might make a few
assumptions. First and foremost, one must assume that because they are
elite, they must "excel" in some sense beyond other individuals (i.e.,
the author of the above post).
We must ask oursevles this: why are these "academic elite" individuals
so far ahead of the rest of us? Is it because they've been granted
rich inheritances? Or perhaps been given titles, or land? Are they
members of some long-standing genetic aristocracy?
Or perhaps they are elite because they have a superior understanding of
mathematics.
It's something I urge you to ponder as you gallop around the Aether,
trumpeting your knowledge.
Rob
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| User: "mountain man" |
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| Title: Re: "The Properties of the Aether" |
26 Jul 2006 12:52:35 AM |
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<rob.barry@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153883343.957345.101740@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Eht wrote:
"The Properties of the Aether"
Consider the group whom you so off-handedly define as the "academic
elite". From where do they derive this superior status?
Other academics.
In attempting to answer this question, one might make a few
assumptions. First and foremost, one must assume that because they are
elite, they must "excel" in some sense beyond other individuals (i.e.,
the author of the above post).
Perhaps they excel in alignment to the commonly accepted
paradigms.
We must ask oursevles this: why are these "academic elite" individuals
so far ahead of the rest of us? Is it because they've been granted
rich inheritances? Or perhaps been given titles, or land? Are they
members of some long-standing genetic aristocracy?
Perhaps the titles and land are in the area of intellectual property.
Physics today defines boundaries, for example, setting the
consideration of the aether hypothesis as "not encouraged".
Academic tenure and the perpetuation of known paradigms
prevail, by the management of the peer reviewed system.
Or perhaps they are elite because they have a superior understanding of
mathematics.
Perhaps they have a superior understanding of mathematics,
but at an essential and fundamental level, physics is not
mathematics.
It's something I urge you to ponder as you gallop around the Aether,
trumpeting your knowledge.
The aether postulate in today's terms simply states
that all material particles are dynamic configurations
of a primaeval material substance, differentiated by
the nature of the dynamics that define the "particle".
Moreover, that the entire observable universe is filled
with this same cosmic-pervading "element of nature".
Some modern theories make the claim that the phenomena
of (planetary and galactic) gravity is manifest by a process
of inflow of this cosmic fluid, called "aether" or "quantum
foam".
See for example:
http://www.mountainman.com.au/process%5Fphysics/
The aether hypothesis is still valid and has not in principle
been refuted. Experimental detection of this most subtle
of all substances (nb: it is an 'element of nature') only
means that we do not have as yet the means to detect
this fluid. In principle it may very well exist, but not yet
observable to experimentation.
Pete Brown
www.mountainman.com.au/aetherqr.htm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "The Properties of the Aether" |
12 Aug 2006 09:37:10 PM |
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Or perhaps they are elite because they have a superior understanding of
mathematics.
Perhaps they have a superior understanding of mathematics,
but at an essential and fundamental level, physics is not
mathematics.
Really? How do you *know* that physics is not mathematics? What *is*
mathematics?
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| User: "mountain man" |
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18 Aug 2006 04:30:53 AM |
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<rob.barry@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155436630.010786.138650@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Or perhaps they are elite because they have a superior understanding of
mathematics.
Perhaps they have a superior understanding of mathematics,
but at an essential and fundamental level, physics is not
mathematics.
Really? How do you *know* that physics is not mathematics? What *is*
mathematics?
Mathematics is not restricted to the observable
behaviour of the natural world whereas physics
is *so restricted*.
Pete Brown
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: "The Properties of the Aether" |
25 Jul 2006 10:28:58 PM |
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You stupid fucker.
Its dark energy DUMBFUCK.
dak energy is the photons at c with no wavelenth and constant frequency
from the outside the visible univese hubble constant
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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26 Jul 2006 08:13:07 AM |
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In article <10918-44C6E17A-1110@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>, tj
Frazir <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote:
You stupid fucker.
Its dark energy DUMBFUCK.
dak energy is the photons at c with no wavelenth and constant frequency
from the outside the visible univese hubble constant
Oh look superkook is back...
--
Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
Corollary -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
³It approaches the asymptote faster, the more pseduos¹ you throw in
your formulas.²
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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25 Jul 2006 11:03:37 PM |
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tj Frazir wrote:
You stupid fucker.
Its dark energy DUMBFUCK.
dak energy is the photons at c with no wavelenth and constant frequency
from the outside the visible univese hubble constant
Mr. Frazir,
Have you ever considered science writing? Your coherency is priceless.
Please, do elaborate.
Rob
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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25 Jul 2006 11:32:19 PM |
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The farther away the sta is the faster is going.
When its at the ege of the universe its at c.
when its outside the visible universe its goin faster than c ..but c is
still the speed limit .
A photon from it will pass u at c . with no wavelenth . Its called dark
energy ya retarted jackass
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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26 Jul 2006 08:13:53 AM |
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In article <10918-44C6F053-1114@storefull-3212.bay.webtv.net>, tj
Frazir <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote:
when its outside the visible universe its goin faster than c ..but c is
still the speed limit .
A photon from it will pass u at c . with no wavelenth . Its called dark
energy ya retarted jackass
You're nearly as stupid as JaneRalf
--
Relf's Law? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses."
Corollary -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
³It approaches the asymptote faster, the more pseduos¹ you throw in
your formulas.²
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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26 Jul 2006 09:58:18 AM |
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*****...
The point in space the photon eject from atoms that are going near c
dont move .
Even if the atoms are faster then c wrt us out past the hubble limit at
the ege of the visible universe.
th photons from outside the visible universe pass us at c .
They have no wavelenth and wount react but are displaced .
ALL physcical rules still aply .
your ***** as tiny brain may not be able even think about it.
1 ,,we see stars 14 billion light years away ,,so where would they be
now !!!
outside this visible universe .
Its still emiting photons ..yet the star is going faster then c wrt us..
the point the photon left it dont move.
NO photon can be in two places at the same time .
time becomes a strait line at the ege of this visible universe.
MORONs
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| User: "T Wake" |
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26 Jul 2006 11:08:05 AM |
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"tj Frazir" <GravityPhysics@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:28831-44C7830A-1057@storefull-3211.bay.webtv.net...
I am a *****...
Ok, we agree on something then.
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