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24 May 2007 02:26:24 PM |
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The state of the art of temperature statistics |
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/people/lyman/Pdf/heat_2006.pdf
This is an important article from the NOAA. It was rescended. But it
still is very good documentation of facts. The main fact is to what
reliability are the facts presented by the AGW communtity and IPCC.
In the study, the points were supposedly covered to verify the
readings of this anomaly. The refutation of the article is based upon
bias in the Argo floats. This quote shows that the authors were aware
of the potential bias and checked this with satellite readings.
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Most climate models,however,do not contain unforced decadal
variability of this magnitude [Gregory et al .,2004;Barnett et al .,
2005,their Figure S1; Church et al .,2005;and Hansen et al .,2005 ]
and it has been suggested that such fluctuations in the observational
record may be due to inadequate sampling of ocean
temperatures [Gregory et al .,2004 ].We have detected a new cooling
event that began in 2003 and is comparable in magnitude to the one in
the early 1980s.Using high-resolution satellite data to estimate
sampling error,we find that both the recent event and the cooling of
the early 1980s are significant with respect to these errors.
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The recent downturn in OHCA roughly coincides with the spin up of
Argo[www.argo.net ] in 2002.Argo has dramatically improved sampling
and introduced a large amount of data from new instruments,namely
autonomous profiling CTD floats. In order to test for potential biases
due to this change in the observing system,globally averaged OHCA was
also computed without profiling float data (Figure 1,gray line).
The cooling event persisted with removal of all Argo data from the
OHCA estimate, albeit more weakly and with much larger error bars.This
result suggests that the cooling event is real and not related to any
potential bias introduced by the large changes in the characteristics
of the ocean observing system during the advent of the Argo
Project.Estimates of OHCA made using only data from profiling floats
(not shown)also yielded a recent cooling of similar magnitude.
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So what are the accurate readings for ocean temperature and changes in
temperature? Even this article points out that the previous readings
were bias to the warm. So how much of the IPCC and AGW is based upon
these readings bias to the warm?
The ocean is 7/10 of the earth's surface. The heat capacity of the
ocean is very great. Changes in temperature must deal with this great
amount of heat to either increase or decrease the temperature of the
ocean.
It could very easily appear that tremendous pressure was put on these
original authors to invalidate this documentation of global cooling at
this time when the fraud of AGW is trying to get it's foot in the door
with the passage of laws in the US to restrict CO2 emissions.
So do these fraudists hope to get their laws enacted before we get the
actual scientific analyses of the ocean temperatures?
Will this analyses be valid this time and not based upon political
agendas?
K Deatherage
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| User: "SiCKO is SOCKO Says Time Magazine" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
24 May 2007 03:05:31 PM |
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On May 24, 12:26 pm, wrote:
So what are the accurate readings for ocean temperature and changes in
temperature? Even this article points out that the previous readings
were bias to the warm. So how much of the IPCC and AGW is based upon
these readings bias to the warm?
K Deatherage
What's the point in asking questions? You never acknowledge answers.
You don't even admit that satellites can take pictures of one
particular greenhouse gas using their infrared emissions.
Here's the links you refuse to acknowledge are a greenhouse gas seen
by infrared sensors:
Here are some images from satellites current at the instant you choose
to click the links. Whether you click day or night makes no difference
since these pictures use no visible light, only infrared, to make the
pictures. People can compare the clouds in the satellites to the
clouds outside looking up, if they want proof the photos are showing
something real.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/ir4-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/ft-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/ir4-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/ft-l.jpg
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
24 May 2007 03:48:50 PM |
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On May 24, 12:26 pm, wrote:
[...]
So fruitloop roofer, when are you going to do something other than
rant on USENET?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
27 May 2007 07:32:32 PM |
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On May 24, 3:48 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 24, 12:26 pm, wrote:
[...]
So fruitloop roofer, when are you going to do something other than
rant on USENET?
The indictment is on those that portend to be scientists and accept
public money for this service which they fail to deliver.
An example is the inablility to do Planck's Radiation Law correctly.
And to use these invalid graphs in the promotion of the fraud of the
theory of anthropogenic global warming.
Planck's radiation law, describes the intensity maximum and
distribution of energy of energy being transfered for a particular
temperature. This is based upon the temperature of gases.
The mean kinetic energy if the velocities of the molecules of a gas is
kT. QM wishes to revise this to 3/2kT, but this is simply another
numerical value. 3/2 kTN is the molar heat capacity of monatomic
gases. But the pressure of a gas is derived by NkT which is RT or R
for each degree K.
Planck's formula is 8pihv^3/c^3 1/log hv/kT - 1
The intensity maximum is reached when hv is 4.96 times greater than
kT.
kT/hvmax = .2019
..2019 x hc/k = .2898cm
..2898cm/ Temp (K) = wavelength of highest intensity
Notice that when one replaces v with c/v to convert to wavelength, the
validity of h as an integral multiple is valid only where v = 1 or
2.99E10cm/sec
In PLanck's Law, the energy is a sum of whole values of h
so any quantity of energy E divided by h, is a whole value of v, or
frequency.
Planck's formula describes a curve with relative intensities for each
frequencies.
These relative intensities occur because of the probability of the
electron oscillator to be at any specific value of hv, at the time of
it's emission.
Therfore due to the statistics of the great numbers of the emission
system, any sample of the radiation will have this same relative
distribution of energy transfered at each frequency.
These probabilities are only valid for a system at thermal
equilibrium. The proper determination for Wiens Law, or intensty
maximum is important in any condition to absolute temperature.
The sun is a good example and obeys the blackbody radiation
distribution even through the visible frequencies.
The combined theory of Planck and Einstein, is that this energy is
transfered in discreet packets which have energy of whole values of
hv. 'Quanta'.
The valid graph of the radiation law show relative energy for each
frequency. The area beneath the curve is proportional to total energy
in accordance with Stefans law for different temperatures.
At 300K, Wavelength at which greatest energy is transfered 9.66um
which is
..128 electron volts
At 300K, kT = .026 electon volts
It is easy to see from this that the energy radiated around the
intensity maximum is far too great to be a product of the energy of
the velocities of the molecules. Nor can it be accounted for by any
motion of the molecules or vibrations within the molecules.
It is Planck's hypothesis, ' each spectral line originates from an
electron oscillator with specific energy hv'. His law is derived from
the probabilites of the oscillator to be at any given energy level and
the time of continuance of the classical oscillator.
K Deatherage
CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help, buy an
air conditioner, and hire a criminal defense attorney
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| User: "Phineas T Puddleduck" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
27 May 2007 07:34:06 PM |
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In article <1180312352.236540.181950@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
The indictment is on those that portend to be scientists and accept
public money for this service which they fail to deliver.
Shut up loon.
--
COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite
poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).
Official maintainer of the supra-cosmic space fluid pump (Mon and Tues only).
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
28 May 2007 08:30:47 AM |
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On May 27, 7:34 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck <phineaspuddled...@gmail.com>
wrote:
In article <1180312352.236540.181...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
kdth...@yahoo.com wrote:
The indictment is on those that portend to be scientists and accept
public money for this service which they fail to deliver.
Shut up loon.
Sorry to blaspheme your Quantum Mechanics Religion and your belief in
AGW, PHOODLEPHUCK the PARASITE But don't get your panties all knotted
up.
How many phoodles, could phoodlephuck phuck,
if phoodlephuck could phuck phoodles?
KD
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| User: "Sci.Moderator" |
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| Title: Re: The state of the art of temperature statistics |
27 May 2007 07:50:11 PM |
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On May 27, 5:32 pm, wrote:
On May 24, 3:48 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 24, 12:26 pm, wrote:
[...]
So fruitloop roofer, when are you going to do something other than
rant on USENET?
Death-rag Said:
The idnctmeint is on toshe taht potrend to be siencistts and acept
pcbuilc mnoey for tihs sevirce whcih tehy fail to dleiver A
n exapmle is the inalbility to do Palnk'cs Radiaiotn Law croerctly nAd
to use tehse inalvid grahps in the prmotooin of the farud of thet
heroy of anthoprgeonic glbaol wamirng lPncak's radiaiotn law decsibres
the itnesnity maimxum ad
dintrisubtoin of eengry of eenrgy bineg trnsaefred for a praictlua
rtemepartrue Tihs is bsead uopn the tmeperatrue of gaess hTe maen
kietinc enrgey if the vleoctieis of the moeclleus of a gas isk
T QM wsihes to rvesie tihs to 32k/T but tihs is smpily aonthr
neumricael vlaue 3/2 kTN is the mlaor haet caapcity of moatonmicg
aess But the prssuree of a gas is dervied by NkT wihch is RT or Rf
or ecah dgeree K P
ancl'ks forumla is 8pih^3vc^/3 1/olg h/vkT - 1Th
e intenitsy mximaum is racheed wehn hv is 4 96 tmeis grateer tahn
kT T/hkmvax = 2190 2109 x h/ck = 2988cm 288cm9/ Tmep (K) = wvealngeth
of higehst inentits
yotNcie taht wehn one replcaes v wtih c/v to conevrt to wvaelegnth te
valihitdy of h as an itngrael multplie is vlaid olny werhe v = 1 o
r2 99E01cmse/
Icn PLacn'ks Law the eenrgy is a sum of whloe vauels of hs
o any qauntity of enegry E dvidied by h is a wolhe vaule of v o
rrequefcny lPacn'ks frmuloa dseribecs a cuvre wtih rlatieve
itnensiteis for each
rfqueneices Tehse rletiave itennsiiets ocucr bceasue of the
proabilbtiy of theel
ecrotn oscilltoar to be at any secpfiic vaule of hv at the tmie ofi
'ts emissoin herfTore due to the sttastiics of the graet nmbuers of
the eismisn
soytesm any smpale of the rdiaaiton wlil hvae tihs smae rletaveidi
stirubtion of eergny tarsnfered at ecah feqrencuy Tehse probaibitiels
are olny vaild for a sysetm at tehrml
aqueilbirium The prpeor dtereimatnion for Wenis Law or itnesnt
maxiyumm is ipormtnat in any codntiion to asbluote tmperetaure hTe sun
is a good exaplme and oeybs the backblody rdaiaito
dinstrbuitoin eevn troughh the vsiible freueqcnies hTe cmbioend tehory
of Panclk and Enistien is taht tihs eenrgy is
trasnfeerd in dicrseet pakctes wihch hvae enrgey of wolhe vlueas ofh
v 'uaQtan' hTe vliad gaprh of the radatioin law sohw reltavie enegry
for ecah
rfeqeucny The aera beeatnh the crvue is prporotinoal to ttaol enrge
yin acocrdacne wtih Seftnas law for dffeirent tmeeratupers A
t 300K Wvelanegth at wichh gertesat enrgey is tarsnfeerd 9 66mu
wihch is 128 eecltorn vols
tAt 300K kT = 026 eeclton vltos
I
t is easy to see form tihs taht the eerngy radateid arunod te
hintesntiy maxiumm is far too gerat to be a proudct of the enregy o
thfe vlecotiies of the moelulecs Nor can it be acocunetd for by any
otmion of the molceules or viratboins wihitn the mleoucels I
t is Palcnk's hyothesips ' ecah sepctarl lnie orginaiets form a
neelctron oscilalotr wtih secipifc eergny hv' His law is deiverd frmot
he pobrbaliites of the ocilsalotr to be at any gievn enrgey lveel adn
hte tmie of cotinunacne of the clssiacal ocislaltor
K Deatherage
eOC2Phobia is a pycsolohgiacl dseasie Seek proessfonail hlep buy an
iar cndiotioenr and hrie a cimrinal dfenese attonrey
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