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User: "Don1"
Date: 11 Oct 2005 04:07:33 AM
Object: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space
Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.
No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.
Don
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User: "odin"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 12:01:32 PM

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

Hey cretin dimwit *****-for-brains dunderhead Don1... what is your point?
Ignorant jackass moron!
....Clenching my hands, then taking a slow deep breath... sigh... I mean what
actually is your point Don1?
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 01:41:57 PM
Don1 wrote:


Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

Idiot Dumb Donny *****. Local longitude and latitude are r, theta,
phi. There is no coordinate background in the universe. You omitted
the chirality of a Cartesian coordinate frame, Dumb Donny *****.
X(vector cross product)Y = (+/-) Z. Two choices, Dumb Donny *****.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Fucking imbecile Dumb Donny *****. A heavy muonic atom has its
muon orbiting within the nucleus, passing through 2x10^14 g/cm^3
density as though it were vacuum. Why don't you die, Dumb Donny
***** or at least shut your stoopid drooling piehole?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "odin"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 01:48:53 PM

Why don't you die, Dumb Donny
***** or at least shut your stoopid drooling piehole?

Yes Don1... could you please answer Uncle Al's excellent question here. Your
thoughts on this question would be much more interesting than your usual
crap.
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User: "Happy Hippy"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 09:35:01 AM
Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don

Three coordinates.
One flow of Time.
Infinite size variability.
There are only three dimensions plus Time.
Time is a constant flow, but the smaller a
structure is, the more cycles it can make
per unit Time, so for it, Time goes slower.
So, when you say 'the same place', be aware
that there are always smaller places within
that place, and that they cycle way faster.
( be aware= beware )
John
Galaxy Model for the Atom
http://users.accesscomm.ca/john/
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User: "Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 05:20:25 AM
Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don

You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.
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User: "John Christiansen"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 07:23:05 AM
"Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" <brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i en
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Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don


You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.

Yes especially if he can explain the meaning of horzontal and vertical in
outer space
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 03:02:03 PM
John Christiansen wrote:

"Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" <brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i en
meddelelse news:1129026025.139315.233080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don


You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.


Yes especially if he can explain the meaning of horzontal and vertical in
outer space

Euclidean Space is a concept being designed for common sensible,
upright; free worldlings. Where the skyline is up and a horizontal
tangent to it is the x-x coordinate. The vertical, radial line
perpendicular to the horizontal tangent is the y-y coordinate, and the
line perpendicular, in and out of the plane they form is the z-z
coordinate.
All earthlings will see, and draw these coordinates on pages and in
books that are placed in the normal viewing orientation; that is with
top up and away, and the bottom down toward them; so that left is to
left, and right is to the right.
Space travelers will have to learn to orient pages and maps likewise.
.
User: "PD"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 03:25:12 PM
Don1 wrote:

John Christiansen wrote:

"Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" <brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i en
meddelelse news:1129026025.139315.233080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don


You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.


Yes especially if he can explain the meaning of horzontal and vertical in
outer space


Euclidean Space is a concept being designed for common sensible,
upright; free worldlings. Where the skyline is up and a horizontal
tangent to it is the x-x coordinate. The vertical, radial line
perpendicular to the horizontal tangent is the y-y coordinate, and the
line perpendicular, in and out of the plane they form is the z-z
coordinate.

All earthlings will see, and draw these coordinates on pages and in
books that are placed in the normal viewing orientation; that is with
top up and away, and the bottom down toward them; so that left is to
left, and right is to the right.

Space travelers will have to learn to orient pages and maps likewise.

Worldlings had to reconcile themselves with the notion that two
straight, parallel lines, whether drawn parallel to the x-axis or to
the y-axis, ended up intersecting each other. Until this reconciliation
was made, it caused no end of trouble to seafarers who ended up
hundreds of miles away from their destinations simply because they
assumed that Euclidean Space applied to their travels. It works just
fine for those that are content to navigate only in their backyard, or
to the corner drugstore and back. This, however, is why seafarers do
not listen to backyard navigators.
PD
.
User: "Don1"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 08:17:31 PM
PD wrote:

Don1 wrote:

John Christiansen wrote:

"Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" <brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i en
meddelelse news:1129026025.139315.233080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don


You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.


Yes especially if he can explain the meaning of horzontal and vertical in
outer space


Euclidean Space is a concept being designed for common sensible,
upright; free worldlings. Where the skyline is up and a horizontal
tangent to it is the x-x coordinate. The vertical, radial line
perpendicular to the horizontal tangent is the y-y coordinate, and the
line perpendicular, in and out of the plane they form is the z-z
coordinate.

All earthlings will see, and draw these coordinates on pages and in
books that are placed in the normal viewing orientation; that is with
top up and away, and the bottom down toward them; so that left is to
left, and right is to the right.

Space travelers will have to learn to orient pages and maps likewise.


Worldlings had to reconcile themselves with the notion that two
straight, parallel lines, whether drawn parallel to the x-axis or to
the y-axis, ended up intersecting each other.

Not so in Euclidean space: two straight lines are parallel, and remain
parallel, regardless of their extent. That was one of Euclids greatest
posiulates: Your sailors sailed on the curved surface of the oceans
great and on those surfaces "straight lines" are not straight. Einstein
interpolated this worldly curvature to conclude that the space around
bodies was curved too. I think he called them "world lines".
Until this reconciliation

was made, it caused no end of trouble to seafarers who ended up
hundreds of miles away from their destinations simply because they
assumed that Euclidean Space applied to their travels. It works just
fine for those that are content to navigate only in their backyard, or
to the corner drugstore and back. This, however, is why seafarers do
not listen to backyard navigators.

PD

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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 08:27:43 PM
Don1 wrote:

PD wrote:

Don1 wrote:

John Christiansen wrote:

"Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket" <brightice2001@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i en
meddelelse news:1129026025.139315.233080@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Don


You only just missed the Nobel awards. I expect you'll get one next
year.


Yes especially if he can explain the meaning of horzontal and vertical in
outer space


Euclidean Space is a concept being designed for common sensible,
upright; free worldlings. Where the skyline is up and a horizontal
tangent to it is the x-x coordinate. The vertical, radial line
perpendicular to the horizontal tangent is the y-y coordinate, and the
line perpendicular, in and out of the plane they form is the z-z
coordinate.

All earthlings will see, and draw these coordinates on pages and in
books that are placed in the normal viewing orientation; that is with
top up and away, and the bottom down toward them; so that left is to
left, and right is to the right.

Space travelers will have to learn to orient pages and maps likewise.


Worldlings had to reconcile themselves with the notion that two
straight, parallel lines, whether drawn parallel to the x-axis or to
the y-axis, ended up intersecting each other.


Not so in Euclidean space: two straight lines are parallel, and remain
parallel, regardless of their extent. That was one of Euclids greatest
posiulates: Your sailors sailed on the curved surface of the oceans
great and on those surfaces "straight lines" are not straight. Einstein
interpolated this worldly curvature to conclude that the space around
bodies was curved too. I think he called them "world lines".

Since when do you think?
You rehash topics that were dealt with centuries ago and you spend
years on them with zero progress.


Until this reconciliation

was made, it caused no end of trouble to seafarers who ended up
hundreds of miles away from their destinations simply because they
assumed that Euclidean Space applied to their travels. It works just
fine for those that are content to navigate only in their backyard, or
to the corner drugstore and back. This, however, is why seafarers do
not listen to backyard navigators.

PD

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User: ""

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 09:41:53 PM
You rehash topics that were dealt with centuries ago and you spend
years on them with zero progress.
*****************
Now, now, now, now. You're criticizing him for being human, for doing
what every example of Homo Sap has done though the ages. What
discrimination!!!!!!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 10:16:50 PM
wrote:

You rehash topics that were dealt with centuries ago and you spend
years on them with zero progress.

*****************

Now, now, now, now. You're criticizing him for being human, for doing
what every example of Homo Sap has done though the ages. What
discrimination!!!!!!

Being stupid isn't a protected class.
.
User: "tadchem"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 12 Oct 2005 03:07:41 PM
<jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129087010.013914.323980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Being stupid isn't a protected class.

According to Darwin, it is often fatal, but in certain states it is either a
protected constitutional right or a regional pastime.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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User: "Don1"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 12 Oct 2005 09:42:03 PM
tadchem wrote:

<jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129087010.013914.323980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Being stupid isn't a protected class.


According to Darwin, it is often fatal, but in certain states it is either a
protected constitutional right or a regional pastime.


Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

What is stupid, if not dense thickheaded imperviousness to new ideas?
.








User: ""

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 07:26:44 AM
without
mutually thrusting,
**************
Isn't this what gave us our 6E9 human population figure, which will
have to come way down to accomodate fossil fuel
depletion?????????????????????????????
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User: ""

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 07:31:53 AM
without
mutually thrusting,
*************
Isn't this what gave us our 6E9 human population figure, which will
have to come way down to accomodate fossil fuel
depletion?????????????????????????????
****************
Wait. It said "WITHOUT mutual thrusting". Oh, my. Then where did the
6E9 come from? The cabbage patch? Spontaneous generation?
Emmigration from Beta Lyrae 7??????
"Enquiring minds get a bullet put through them, and their bodies used
for fertilizer".
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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 11:51:01 AM
Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

Then obviously we don't live in Euclidean space.
But then, we already knew that. When are you going to catch up to
the past, not to mention the present, Don?
Mark L. Fergerson
.

User: "PD"

Title: Re: The x, y, and z of Euclidean space 11 Oct 2005 10:58:29 AM
Don1 wrote:

Euclidean Space has three Cartesian Coordinates; one horizontal x-x;
one vertical y-y; which together comprise a plane, and one
perpendicular z-z to that plane: Every solid particle of matter in
Euclidean space has three dimensional extent.

No two of these particles or portions thereof can simultaneously
occupy, or pass through the same place in Eclidean Space without
mutually thrusting, and displacing each other from where they were.

This turns out to be not true. It happens to be true for the most
common particles, but that is an accident of what they are, and it
certainly isn't true in general. Atoms have extent only by virtue of
the path of the electrons on their periphery, and the electrons repel
each other not because they have any extent but because they are
fermions and because they repel particles with similar electric charge.
Bose-Einstein condensates are an example of a case that violates the
second paragraph that Don1 wrote above, and these have been observed
experimentally. The fact that such an example exists means that the law
that Don1 proposes doesn't hold, though it may be a fairly common
trait.
It is the work of physicists to distinguish between the common rules of
thumb and the general laws.
PD
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