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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "hetware"
Date: 21 Sep 2005 12:15:22 AM
Object: Theory of Hurricanes
Are the various papers written by Kerry Emanuel, et al, in the 1980s still
the definitive works on hurricane physics? I'm looking for a treatment of
the physics of hurricanes that discusses the fluid dynamics and overall
structure of hurricanes at a reasonably advanced level. Any suggestions?
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User: "OsherD"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 21 Sep 2005 02:36:57 AM

From Osher Doctorow


Hetware typed:

I'm looking for a treatment of
the physics of hurricanes that discusses >the

I certainly think that it's a good idea to find out whether there are
any reasonably advanced treatment of the physics of hurricanes
including overall structure and fluid dynamics, and I'll try to look
into it. The only thing that seems to stand out right now is that
hurricanes are especially fond of New Orleans, Louisiana. Some
politically obsessed people have claimed that this is the USA's "reward
from Allah", but New Orleans and Orleans County in which it is located
voted 77% for Kerry in 2004 and 22% for Bush, so by that reasoning
Allah is rewarding Bush.
Osher Doctorow
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User: "hetware"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 21 Sep 2005 03:34:49 PM
OsherD wrote:

From Osher Doctorow



Hetware typed:

I'm looking for a treatment of
the physics of hurricanes that discusses >the


I certainly think that it's a good idea to find out whether there are
any reasonably advanced treatment of the physics of hurricanes
including overall structure and fluid dynamics, and I'll try to look
into it. The only thing that seems to stand out right now is that
hurricanes are especially fond of New Orleans, Louisiana. Some
politically obsessed people have claimed that this is the USA's "reward
from Allah", but New Orleans and Orleans County in which it is located
voted 77% for Kerry in 2004 and 22% for Bush, so by that reasoning
Allah is rewarding Bush.

Osher Doctorow

Perhaps it's the Brüning Churchill effect? Seriously, why did you introduce
politics and religion into this discussion? My original request for
information was purely within the realm of physics.
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User: "Richard Henry"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 22 Sep 2005 10:06:26 AM
"hetware" <massless@nutrino.none> wrote in message
news:5pqdnbSAfsl0XqzeRVn-og@speakeasy.net...

OsherD wrote:

From Osher Doctorow



Hetware typed:

I'm looking for a treatment of
the physics of hurricanes that discusses >the


I certainly think that it's a good idea to find out whether there are
any reasonably advanced treatment of the physics of hurricanes
including overall structure and fluid dynamics, and I'll try to look
into it. The only thing that seems to stand out right now is that
hurricanes are especially fond of New Orleans, Louisiana. Some
politically obsessed people have claimed that this is the USA's "reward
from Allah", but New Orleans and Orleans County in which it is located
voted 77% for Kerry in 2004 and 22% for Bush, so by that reasoning
Allah is rewarding Bush.

Osher Doctorow


Perhaps it's the Brüning Churchill effect? Seriously, why did you

introduce

politics and religion into this discussion? My original request for
information was purely within the realm of physics.

Google groups allows usenet writers to research previous writings by any
poster. Perhaps that will help answer your question.
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User: "hetware"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 23 Sep 2005 03:40:32 AM
Richard Henry wrote:

"hetware" <massless@nutrino.none> wrote in message
news:5pqdnbSAfsl0XqzeRVn-og@speakeasy.net...

OsherD wrote:
Perhaps it's the Brüning Churchill effect? Seriously, why did you

introduce

politics and religion into this discussion? My original request for
information was purely within the realm of physics.


Google groups allows usenet writers to research previous writings by any
poster. Perhaps that will help answer your question.

No. That really offers no hint as to why someone would respond to a
completely secular, apolitical, request for information by discussing
Yahveh and and the recent voting history of New Orleans.
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User: "OsherD"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 22 Sep 2005 01:52:21 AM

From Osher Doctorow


Hetware typed:

Perhaps it's the Br=FCning Churchill effect? Seriously, why did you intro=

duce

politics and religion into this discussion? My original request for
information was purely within the realm of physics

I'm 66. Your reply reads like 15. If that's politics and religion,
you'll just have to lump it. The Chinese and Japanese and to some
extent Koreans do rather well respecting their elders and for that
matter their teachers and professors and researchers. If you think
that you can respect knowledge without respecting older people, you
have a lot of learning ahead of you.
Osher Doctorow
.
User: "hetware"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 23 Sep 2005 03:17:39 AM
OsherD wrote:

From Osher Doctorow



Hetware typed:

Perhaps it's the Brüning Churchill effect? Seriously, why did you
introduce
politics and religion into this discussion? My original request for
information was purely within the realm of physics



I'm 66. Your reply reads like 15. If that's politics and religion,
you'll just have to lump it. The Chinese and Japanese and to some
extent Koreans do rather well respecting their elders and for that
matter their teachers and professors and researchers. If you think
that you can respect knowledge without respecting older people, you
have a lot of learning ahead of you.

Osher Doctorow

So what do you think of Feynman's treatment of thunderstorms in Vol 2?
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User: "Ian Parker"

Title: Re: Theory of Hurricanes 21 Sep 2005 10:40:45 AM
Turbulence, Coherent structures, Dynamical systems and chaos
by Holmes, Lumley and Berkooz
Cambridge University Press, 1996
Has been reccommended to me. It might be interesting for you to take a
look at the thread which I introduced.
Prevention and control of Hurricanes.
On reflection there is one thing I should have added to my replies to
the Dutch research student and that is that theoretically eigenvalues
and eigenvectors represents a more accurate model when the departure
from equilibrium is small.
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