Science > Physics > "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein
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27 Oct 2005 09:02:04 PM |
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"There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
It took an energy buildup to make the Big Bang.
A dimensionless point isn't anything at all.
And "Nothing" can't fluctuate.
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
27 Oct 2005 11:13:40 PM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip nonsense>
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
So does your IQ with each post.
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
28 Oct 2005 12:36:24 AM |
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Your IQ is for AI. You learn by compensation.
Its artificial intelligence.
I don't learn things like you do. I won't learn by rote.
I learn by understanding.
The way you learn is just a compensation for some
kind of inferiority you felt when you were young.
You thought learning was the answer. It isn't.
Intellectuals are just compensators!!! I don't care how
high your IQ. I am better.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
28 Oct 2005 07:33:38 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Your IQ is for AI. You learn by compensation.
Its artificial intelligence.
Who are you talking to?
I don't learn things like you do. I won't learn by rote.
I learn by understanding.
So you dont learn anything then? You understand very little.
The way you learn is just a compensation for some
kind of inferiority you felt when you were young.
You thought learning was the answer. It isn't.
Again, who are you talking to? Are the voices in your head making you say
these things?
Intellectuals are just compensators!!! I don't care how
high your IQ. I am better.
This is a new side to you Nick. How will your God react to this new found
hubris?
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| User: "MorituriMax" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
28 Oct 2005 12:59:44 AM |
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"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
And you're welcome to that belief, just like we are welcome to ours.. the
same way some people think the earth is flat, santa lives at the north pole,
and people cause global warming.
Have a good one.
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| User: "Schoenfeld" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 11:52:10 AM |
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MorituriMax wrote:
"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130464246.632175.114540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
And you're welcome to that belief, just like we are welcome to ours.. the
same way some people think the earth is flat, santa lives at the north pole,
and people cause global warming.
Perhaps you could explain what the cause of global warming is? Does it
account for the global dimming too? Physics works irrespective of the
ideological box one is willfully subdued in..
Have a good one.
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| User: "tadchem" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 12:40:10 PM |
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Schoenfeld wrote:
MorituriMax wrote:
"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130464246.632175.114540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
And you're welcome to that belief, just like we are welcome to ours.. the
same way some people think the earth is flat, santa lives at the north pole,
and people cause global warming.
Perhaps you could explain what the cause of global warming is? Does it
account for the global dimming too? Physics works irrespective of the
ideological box one is willfully subdued in..
A fairly good start on understanding the causes of climate variation
(both warming and cooling):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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| User: "Schoenfeld" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 09:26:36 PM |
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tadchem wrote:
Schoenfeld wrote:
MorituriMax wrote:
"Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130464246.632175.114540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
And you're welcome to that belief, just like we are welcome to ours.. the
same way some people think the earth is flat, santa lives at the north pole,
and people cause global warming.
Perhaps you could explain what the cause of global warming is? Does it
account for the global dimming too? Physics works irrespective of the
ideological box one is willfully subdued in..
A fairly good start on understanding the causes of climate variation
(both warming and cooling):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
A better start is reading that reference:
"The solar variations theory also has counter evidence in the form of
measured global dimming which shows that the intensity of sunlight at
the Earth's surface actually fell from the 1950s-1990s."
A cursory review of the "evidence" reveals that:
#1: CO2 traps heat.
#2: 1800 atmospheric CO2 was 280 parts per million.
#3: 2000 atmospheric CO2 at 367 parts per million (31% increase).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Holocene_Temperature_Variations.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/BAMS_climate_assess_boulder_water_vapor_2002.gif
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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| User: "shevek" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 04:48:16 PM |
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Nick wrote:
That's what he said when asked about God.
Which one?
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
It took an energy buildup to make the Big Bang.
It took an energy buildup to allow this packet of information to be
sent to you.
A dimensionless point isn't anything at all.
OK.
And "Nothing" can't fluctuate.
Right, and empty space isn't "nothing".
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| User: "Eugene Stefanovich" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." AlbertEinstein |
04 Nov 2005 07:00:56 PM |
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shevek wrote:
Right, and empty space isn't "nothing".
What is there in the "empty space"?
I guess if you place any kind of particle detector there
you'll never get a signal.
Is there any meaning to QED virtual particles popping
in and out of existence in vacuum?
Eugene.
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| User: "FrediFizzx" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 07:44:27 PM |
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"Eugene Stefanovich" <eugenev@synopsys.com> wrote in message
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| > Right, and empty space isn't "nothing".
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| What is there in the "empty space"?
| I guess if you place any kind of particle detector there
| you'll never get a signal.
I think you need to differentiate between an absolute empty space and
what seems like "our" empty space. But we have a paradox because as
soon as you put the detector into the absolute empty space, it won't be
empty any longer. The resolution would be that absolute empty space is
meaningless for physics but could still exist.
| Is there any meaning to QED virtual particles popping
| in and out of existence in vacuum?
That would be the Standard Model's virtual particle pairs; not just
QED's. It is pretty obvious to me that if we are to have virtual
particle pairs, then we must also think of the concept of "less than
virtual" particle pairs. This means there would have to be a Dual
Spacetime scenario; two connected 3-branes. Which is getting to be more
popular now-a-days.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/01/science/01prof.html
"Our" Universe's "now" is an event horizon between them.
FrediFizzx
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
04 Nov 2005 08:37:17 PM |
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Eugene Stefanovich wrote:
shevek wrote:
Right, and empty space isn't "nothing".
What is there in the "empty space"?
Good question. We know there is an electromagnetic field tensor and a
metric tensor at least, and probably also some objects related to
nuclear forces.
I guess if you place any kind of particle detector there
you'll never get a signal.
Most particle detectors have background signals due to the
electronics.. but of course nobody knows how to avoid the background
radiation either so putting the detector in "empty space" isn't an
option.
Is there any meaning to QED virtual particles popping
in and out of existence in vacuum?
It's kind of like brownian motion. Once you consider small enough
volumes of air, you will have a random number of molecules in the
volume due to their random walks. SOmething similar is going on on the
planck scale, with atoms of space-time.
Maybe :)
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| User: "Paul Cardinale" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
27 Oct 2005 10:08:52 PM |
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Nick wrote:
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
You don't think at all. You are an ardent disciple of willful
ignorance.
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| User: "Gordon" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
05 Nov 2005 04:41:31 PM |
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On 27 Oct 2005 19:02:04 -0700, "Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com>
wrote:
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
It took an energy buildup to make the Big Bang.
A dimensionless point isn't anything at all.
And "Nothing" can't fluctuate.
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
Would positive energy in this universe, balanced by an equivalent
amount of negative energy in some other universe explain this? If
both were the result of something in the form of a quantum
fluctuation, what is the limit as to the maximum amount of energy
thusly divided?
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| User: "Wilbur Slice" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
28 Oct 2005 09:21:13 AM |
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On 27 Oct 2005 19:02:04 -0700, "Nick" <macromitch@yahoo.com> wrote:
That's what he said when asked about God.
I say, "There's got to be something behind that god that's behind all
that energy."
You cna't fool me, sonny. It's Turtles, all the way down.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
It took an energy buildup to make the Big Bang.
A dimensionless point isn't anything at all.
And "Nothing" can't fluctuate.
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
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| User: "Christopher Parker" |
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30 Oct 2005 01:00:13 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:02:04 -0700, Nick wrote:
That's what he said when asked about God.
The universe was created by a quantum fluctuation?
I don't think so.
It took an energy buildup to make the Big Bang.
A dimensionless point isn't anything at all.
And "Nothing" can't fluctuate.
Mitch Raemsch -- Light Falls --
Einstein was just being cute and playing to the press. He did this all of
the time.
Where did God get all of his energy?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: "There's got to be something behind all that energy." Albert Einstein |
30 Oct 2005 05:17:26 AM |
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Where did God get all of his energy?
Since pantheism is correct, "He" got it from Himself. Kind of like
these self-help groups - "The power comes from within".
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