Science > Physics > "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education.
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"These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
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A small correction: holocaust deniers justify their beliefs by
*twisting* available facts and figures. The following quote is taken
from nizkor.com:
The hidden agenda of holocaust deniers is to present the
national-socialism as the available alternative.
Toto the Dog wrote:
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
Oh yeah, spitting on the graves of the millions killed by nazis -
that's the favorite pathtime of neo-nazis (like the National Vanguard).
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28 Aug 2006 04:06:41 PM |
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"oink" aka <porky_pig_jr@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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A small correction: holocaust deniers justify their beliefs by
*twisting* available facts and figures. The following quote is
taken from the Zionist nizkor.com:
The hidden agenda of holocaust deniers is to present the
national-socialism as the available alternative.
[Toto the Dog]
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
[oink]
Oh yeah, spitting on the graves of the millions killed by nazis -
that's the favorite pathtime of neo-nazis (like the National Vanguard).
[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/42dc3fffa5b8a461
.... and then follow the electrified blackie's, Rodney King's, advice
who said: "Why can't we all get along ?"
Thanks for the laughs
..... ahahaha... ahahanson
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
30 Aug 2006 07:38:42 AM |
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wrote:
A small correction: holocaust deniers justify their beliefs by
*twisting* available facts and figures. The following quote is taken
from nizkor.com:
The hidden agenda of holocaust deniers is to present the
national-socialism as the available alternative.
Toto the Dog wrote:
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
Oh yeah, spitting on the graves of the millions killed by nazis -
that's the favorite pathtime of neo-nazis (like the National Vanguard).
porky pig jr makes a good point when he suggests that
it is disgraceful that some are
"spitting on the graves of the millions killed'
as a result of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
that were instigated by the gang that
murdered the Russian Royal Family,
massacred millions of Native Russians,
and tried to export their Class wars all over the world,
so they could rape and pillage the rest of the world,
as they had Russia.
"Spitting on the graves of the millions <of the German people> killed"
as is favorite pastime of the gang that instigated the Class Wars,
is especially disgusting as the German people are probably
the most intelligent, most productive, most moral folks on the planet,
and they paid, and are still paying, a terrible price,
(War dead, destruction of their infrastructure, reparations,
numerous holocaust scams, demonizing by the War-for-Profit gang, etc.)
for being the first to take a stand against the greedy, evil gang that
was trying to take over the world, as that had Russia
by pitting one class against another.
As can be seen, after FDR died,
America did a 180, and began to oppose the
War-for-Profit gang, as the German people had done.
As can be seen,
the War-for-Profit gang are using the profits from their Class Wars,
instigate the Religious Wars of the 2000's.
They say that the history books are written by the victors,
but in the case of the role of the German people in WWII,
the history books have been written by the people
who instigated America and England to join with the
gang that had co-opted the Russian government,
and destroy their enemy Germany.
Today the same gang is aggressively trying to con
American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks
into sacrificing their lives and limbs
to wage war on their latest enemies, Iran, Lebanon, Palestine, etc.
--
Tom Potter
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
28 Aug 2006 10:29:05 AM |
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E-GAD! The nonsense that passes for history here!
There was without question a Genocide of Jews, Gypsies and others by Germany
in the 40's. An enormous body of evidence presented at the Nuremberg trails
and other trials along with millions of eye witness accounts puts this
beyond question.
There is, in my opinion, plenty of doubt about the total numbers involved
and other details, but excusing Germany, or pretending the "Holocaust" is a
ruse is just plain ignorant. tasteless, and sheds doubt on your motives.
As far as the war, true, the US did not enter a legal state of war until the
day after Pearl Harbor, but we used military force to escort British ships
on the high seas, sent "volunteers" to fight both in Europe and in China
and, some would argue, were in the war in fact long before Pearl and the
legal state of war.
Also, the "false war" in 1939-40 was not that false. Let us not forget the
fighting in Scandanavia and so on.
COME ON GENTS! Let's have at least some touch with real history here! If
you want to debate details of the war-era genocide, I'm with you. I think
we have much wrong in modern history books. But if you want to cast Germany
as the victim .. you sound like fools and that's beacuse you are fools.
Regards,
Rod
"Toto the Dog" <carsss1234567@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
29 Aug 2006 12:33:21 AM |
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Rod Keys wrote:
E-GAD! The nonsense that passes for history here!
There was without question a Genocide of Jews, Gypsies and others by Germany
in the 40's. An enormous body of evidence presented at the Nuremberg trails
and other trials along with millions of eye witness accounts puts this
beyond question.
There is, in my opinion, plenty of doubt about the total numbers involved
and other details, but excusing Germany, or pretending the "Holocaust" is a
ruse is just plain ignorant. tasteless, and sheds doubt on your motives.
As far as the war, true, the US did not enter a legal state of war until the
day after Pearl Harbor, but we used military force to escort British ships
on the high seas, sent "volunteers" to fight both in Europe and in China
and, some would argue, were in the war in fact long before Pearl and the
legal state of war.
Also, the "false war" in 1939-40 was not that false. Let us not forget the
fighting in Scandanavia and so on.
COME ON GENTS! Let's have at least some touch with real history here! If
you want to debate details of the war-era genocide, I'm with you. I think
we have much wrong in modern history books. But if you want to cast Germany
as the victim .. you sound like fools and that's beacuse you are fools.
It is interesting to see that Rod Keys calls folks "fools",
who comprehend that rational, intelligent folks
all over the world opposed the take over of their
nations by the gang that had murdered the
Russian Royal Family, massacred millions of Native Russiand,
and were instigating Class Warfare all over the world.
Here is how one German expressed his concern:
SPEECH OF APRIL 12, 1922
While now in Soviet Russia the millions are ruined and are dying,
Chicherin - and with him a staff of over 200 Soviet Jews - travels by
express train through Europe, visits the cabarets, watches naked
dancers
perform for his pleasure, lives in the finest hotels, and does himself
better than the millions whom once you thought you must fight as
'bourgeois.' The 400 Soviet Commissars of Jewish nationality - they do
not
suffer; the thousands upon thousands of sub-Commissars -they do not
suffer.
No! all the treasures which the 'proletarian' in his madness took from
the
'bourgeoise' in order to fight so-called capitalism - they have all
gone
into their hands.
SPEECH OF JULY 28, 1922
More and more so to influence the masses that he persuaded those of the
Right that the faults of the Left were the faults of the German
workman, and
similarly he made it appear to those of the Left that the faults of the
Right were simply the faults of the so-called 'Bourgeois,' and neither
side
noticed that on both sides the faults were the result of a scheme
planned by
alien devilish agitators. And only so is it possible to explain how
this
dirty joke of world history could come to be that Stock Exchange Jews
should
become the leaders of a Workers Movement. It is a gigantic fraud: world
history has seldom seen its like.
It is not surprising that the German people turned to leaders
who were not intimidated by the gang that was instigating
the Class Wars, and was assassinating the leaders that
they could not intimidate or buy.
And it is not surprising that the German people,
who are probably the most intelligent, most productive, most moral
folks on the planet, were very ***** at the destruction
that the war-for-profit gang brought to them and their nation.
I dare say that the Palestinians and the Lebanese feel the same.
If FDR had opposed the gang instigating the Class Wars,
rather than sell out to them,
WWII would have lasted six months,
and there would have been no Cold War, no nuclear weapons,
no Korean War, no Vietnam War, no 911, no Religious Wars, etc.
Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to "Mel Gibson" the new leaders,
(Truman, Nixon, Hoover, McCarthy, etc.),
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the takeover of America
by the War-for-profit gang.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
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04 Sep 2006 05:52:46 AM |
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Toto the Dog on 27/08/2006 wrote:
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
What in the world has this got to do with metal detecting? You're just
cross posting propaganda to lots of irrelevant groups.
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Rob
http://www.flickr.com/photos/canopus_archives/
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28 Aug 2006 01:11:24 AM |
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Toto the Dog wrote:
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
Yeah, yeah, yeah; we hear about Holocaust deniers all the time. Why not
get more original, though?
For instance, no one alive today was alive during the (US) Civil War.
Therefore, there is no proof that it occurred; all the uniforms, money,
weapons, etc., are only artifacts which were designed to fool people
into thinking it _did_ exist.
(In case you're wondering, I got this idea from the Creationists, who
say that the dinosaur bones are fake. They don't seem to realize Philip
K. *****'s first principle: If you declare part of the world to be fake,
you have to accept the fact that the rest of it may, in fact, be fake
as well.)
--- Christopher Heckman
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28 Aug 2006 02:26:15 AM |
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"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Toto the Dog wrote:
One of the few truthful documentarys about the 'Holocaust' ever made:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
Yeah, yeah, yeah; we hear about Holocaust deniers all the time. Why not
get more original, though?
Toto the Dog makes a good point
when he suggests that the German people were very *****
because the Jews that were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
bought a few politicians in America and England,
who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice their lives, limbs,
liberties and fortunes
to wage war against the German people who recognized the
dangers of allowing Jews to take over Germany as they had Russia,
and were taking a stand against the instigators of the Class Wars.
No doubt most rational, intelligent, moral folks would
take a stand against greedy, evil people who were trying
to take over their government, and steal their assets and
pollute their customs, and considering that the German people
are probably the most intelligent, most productive, most moral
folks on the face of the Earth, they were probably a lot more humane
than most other people would be under the circumstances.
As can be seen by studying history,
Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout history.
(Mesopotamia, Palestine, Egypt, Palestine, Persia, Rome, Spain, England,
France,
Spain again Germany, recently Russia and Palestine again,
and in the process, America.) ,
and considering what they had done to the Russian people,
the German people were obviously concerned.
Here is what a famous German had to say during those times:
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SPEECH OF APRIL 12, 1922
While now in Soviet Russia the millions are ruined and are dying,
Chicherin - and with him a staff of over 200 Soviet Jews - travels by
express train through Europe, visits the cabarets, watches naked dancers
perform for his pleasure, lives in the finest hotels, and does himself
better than the millions whom once you thought you must fight as
'bourgeois.' The 400 Soviet Commissars of Jewish nationality - they do not
suffer; the thousands upon thousands of sub-Commissars -they do not suffer.
No! all the treasures which the 'proletarian' in his madness took from the
'bourgeoise' in order to fight so-called capitalism - they have all gone
into their hands.
SPEECH OF JULY 28, 1922
More and more so to influence the masses that he persuaded those of the
Right that the faults of the Left were the faults of the German workman, and
similarly he made it appear to those of the Left that the faults of the
Right were simply the faults of the so-called 'Bourgeois,' and neither side
noticed that on both sides the faults were the result of a scheme planned by
alien devilish agitators. And only so is it possible to explain how this
dirty joke of world history could come to be that Stock Exchange Jews should
become the leaders of a Workers Movement. It is a gigantic fraud: world
history has seldom seen its like.
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I wonder if the Palestinians and the Lebanese are as ***** at the Jews
for killing their citizens and destroying their infrastructure,
as the Germans were?
That said,
it is clear that most of the hype about the so-called holocaust
has to do with money, German reparations, numerous holocaust scams, etc.,
and to obscure the role Jews played in instigating the Class Wars of the
1900's,
and the role they played in demonizing the German people,
after the German people took a stand against the Class War terrorists in
Spain,
and arrested the momentum they had going in their Class Wars.
Thanks for bringing up this subject "Proginoskes",
as most people have been brainwashed by the holocaust industry
propagandists,,
and they are ignorant of the real history of the Class Wars.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
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28 Aug 2006 01:26:04 PM |
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Tom Potter wrote:
Toto the Dog makes a good point
when he suggests that the German people were very *****
because the Jews that were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
bought a few politicians in America and England,
Of course, of course. ANother favorite motto of neo-nazi holocaust
deniers: noone was killed and it was the Jews' fault anyway.
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28 Aug 2006 04:06:40 PM |
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"oink" aka <porky_pig_jr@my-deja.com> stutters in great excitement
news:1156789564.261701.134000@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Tom Potter wrote:
Toto the Dog makes a good point
when he suggests that the German people were very *****
because the Jews that were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
[and their Jewish NKWD officers murdering 7 million Ukrainians
[long before before the Nazi were on the march]
bought a few politicians in America and England,
[stuttering Oink]
Of course, of course. ANother favorite motto of neo-nazi holocaust
deniers: noone was killed and it was the Jews' fault anyway.
[hanson]
.... reluctantly but nevertheless, for the sake of your own
rationality and sanity, you dreidel should sit down, have a
ham sandwich, plenty of crisp pork rind a great German beer.
Then study the issue when you are drunk and while you are
farting you might begin to see the reality of all of this, you
ridiculous mooch.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/42dc3fffa5b8a461
.... and then follow the electrified blackie's, Rodney King's, advice
who said: "Why can't we all get along ?"
Thanks for the laughs
..... ahahaha... ahahanson
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wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
Toto the Dog makes a good point
when he suggests that the German people were very *****
because the Jews that were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's,
bought a few politicians in America and England,
Of course, of course. ANother favorite motto of neo-nazi holocaust
deniers: noone was killed and it was the Jews' fault anyway.
holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust,
holocaust,
holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust,
holocaust,
holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust, holocaust,
holocaust,
911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911,
911,
911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911,
911,
911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911, 911,
911,
Does the name "Pavlov" ring a bell?
--
Tom Potter
<Web Pages and BLOGS shut down due to vandalism by Jews,>
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28 Aug 2006 08:14:23 AM |
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In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
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Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
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dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924131
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/
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28 Aug 2006 09:33:11 AM |
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"Dik T. Winter" <Dik.Winter@cwi.nl> wrote in message
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In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter"
<tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
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Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
FDR was working hard to get America to support the
gang that was using Russia as a base from where
to instigate the Class Wars of the 1900's.
A couple of FDR's under the table deals are listed below.
The Flying Tigers:
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The clandestine operation was largely organized by Lauchlin Currie, a young
economist in the White House, and by Roosevelt intimate Thomas G. Corcoran.
(Currie's assistant was John King Fairbank, who later became America's
preeminent Asian scholar.) The AVG, financing was handled by China Defense
Supplies which was largely Tommy Corcoran's creation, with funding provided
by the U.S. government; purchases were then made by the Chinese under the
"Cash and Carry" provision of the Neutrality Act of 1939.
Chennault spent the winter of 1940-1941 in Washington, helping to negotiate
the purchase of 100 Curtiss P-40 fighters. He also supervised the recruiting
of 100 pilots - 40 from the Army Air Corps and 60 from the US Navy and
Marine Corps - and about 200 ground crew. (Ten more army flight instructors
were hired as check pilots for Chinese cadets, and a few of these would
ultimately join the AVG combat squadrons.)
The pilots were either currently serving in American armed services or
reserve officers; contrary to legend, none were recruited from the ranks of
civilian transport pilots or barnstormers. Most histories of the Flying
Tigers say that on April 15, 1941 President Roosevelt signed a secret
executive order authorising Army Reservists on active duty to resign from
the Army Air Corps in order to sign up
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Lend Lease:
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by the winter of 1940-41, Churchill had come to Roosevelt and told him that
the British were out of money, they were busted. They had no way to continue
paying for the supplies which they so desperately needed from the United
States. Also there were still on the statute books those neutrality laws
which said we couldn't lend the British the money to buy the supplies from
us.
So Roosevelt needs to find a means to keep supplying the British without
antagonizing the isolationists and particularly the Congress of the United
States. The idea that he would go through the Congress was unacceptable to
him because he knew it would be hung up in some kind of long-winded and
painful debate. And this would demoralize the British more than help them.
So he invents this thing called Lend-Lease. And he's marvelous at selling it
again to the public.
In essence, Lend-Lease was a way to give the British planes, tanks, guns,
artillery, ammunition without them really paying for it. And Roosevelt calls
it Lend-Lease. And reporters at a press conference ask him, what does this
mean? What does Lend-Lease mean? Well essentially what it meant was we were
simply giving them the supplies and they were going to use it to defend
themselves and Roosevelt felt it was in defense of the United States.
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If FDR had joined with the German people and gone after
the terrorists that were using Russia as a base from where to
instigate the Class Wars of the 1900's,
WWII would have lasted six months,
and there would have been no Cold War, no nuclear weapons,
no Korean War, no Vietnam War, no 911, no Religious Wars, etc.
Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to "Mel Gibson" the new leaders,
(Truman, Nixon, Hoover, McCarthy, etc.),
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the takeover of America
by the War-for-profit gang.
As you may know,
Hitler was working hard to get England and America
on his side to go after the Class War Instigators.
Rudolf Hess, Hitler's best friend,
flew a plane to Scotland on May 10, 1941,
on the eve of war with the Soviet Union,
an attempt to negotiate peace with England.
He was arrested, kept drugged, kept in isolation,
and never allowed to talk to the press or anyone,
as this would have exposed the fact
that high British politicians had sold out to
the gang that was instigating the Class Wars,
as FDR had done, and they were working to
con the English people to protect the
terrorist who were instigating the Class wars.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
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28 Aug 2006 12:13:32 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:23 GMT, "Dik T. Winter" <Dik.Winter@cwi.nl>
wrote:
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
You're wrong about the UK anyway. Put at its simplest, the UK declared
war on Germany in September 1939, after Germany failed to meet the
deadline of an ultimatum to stop invading Poland.
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:23 GMT, Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
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Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
In fact, it was Germany that declared war on the U.S. (immediately after
the U.S. declared war on Japan), not the other way around.
--
Dave Seaman
U.S. Court of Appeals to review three issues
concerning case of Mumia Abu-Jamal.
<http://www.mumia2000.org/>
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
29 Aug 2006 12:17:04 AM |
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Dave Seaman wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:23 GMT, Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter" <tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
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Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
In fact, it was Germany that declared war on the U.S. (immediately after
the U.S. declared war on Japan), not the other way around.
Dave Seaman makes a good point when he points out that
Japan was pushed into a Bush-like "preemptive" action
because of the illegal aggressions that FDR was taking against Japan,
(The Flying Tigers, embargo's, Lend Lease, etc.)
and that the German people honored their contract with Japan
and the other nations that had taken a stand against the
gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
After the Jews got Russia under their control,
they bought and intimidated a few key American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).
If FDR had opposed the gang instigating the Class Wars,
rather than sell out to them,
WWII would have lasted six months,
and there would have been no Cold War, no nuclear weapons,
no Korean War, no Vietnam War, no 911, no Religious Wars, etc.
Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to Swiftboat the new leaders,
(Truman, Nixon, Hoover, McCarthy, etc.),
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the takeover of America
by the War-for-profit gang.
--
Tom Potter
<Web Pages and BLOGS shut down due to vandalism by Jews,>
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| User: "ray ohara" |
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
29 Aug 2006 05:07:02 PM |
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<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156828624.526985.219580@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Dave Seaman wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:23 GMT, Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter"
<tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
...
Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
In fact, it was Germany that declared war on the U.S. (immediately after
the U.S. declared war on Japan), not the other way around.
Dave Seaman makes a good point when he points out that
Japan was pushed into a Bush-like "preemptive" action
because of the illegal aggressions that FDR was taking against Japan,
(The Flying Tigers, embargo's, Lend Lease, etc.)
the flying tigers went operational after pearl harbor, lend lease was with
britian.
japan had been waging war against china since the early 30s. china was a
friendly nation and deserved help.
boycotts and embargos are considered the correct way to stop a nation acting
aggressively.
do you think the sanctions against saddam or south africa were wrong?
and that the German people honored their contract with Japan
and the other nations that had taken a stand against the
gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
germany's treaty with japan was a defensive treaty only. germany was not
obligated to declare war when japan acted aggressively. nor vice versa, that
is why japan was not obligated to declare war on poland,france, england or
russia when germany started the european war.
After the Jews got Russia under their control,
they bought and intimidated a few key American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).
stalin was jewish?
If FDR had opposed the gang instigating the Class Wars,
rather than sell out to them,
WWII would have lasted six months,
and there would have been no Cold War, no nuclear weapons,
no Korean War, no Vietnam War, no 911, no Religious Wars, etc.
you are a loon.
Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to Swiftboat the new leaders,
(Truman, Nixon, Hoover, McCarthy, etc.),
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the takeover of America
by the War-for-profit gang.
--
Tom Potter
<Web Pages and BLOGS shut down due to vandalism by Jews,>
do you actually believe what you wrote?
and your grasp of history is seriously remiss.
you holocaust deniers are a strange breed.
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29 Aug 2006 10:35:46 PM |
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"ray o'hara" <roh@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Dave Seaman wrote:
Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
[Potter]
Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests
the Germanpeople were very ***** because the
Jews that were instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
[snipped the rest of Potter's standard tripe]
[o'hara to Potter, Seaman, Winter & Toto]
you holocaust deniers are a strange breed.
[hanson to o'hara]
I don't know about the latter three, BUT, o'hara, I still try to catch
Potter in denying the holocaust. Sure, Potter writes his usual tripe,
more or less funny and always passionate and fanatical ...
ahahaha.. BUT I have never heard Potter denying the holocaust.
.... OTOH brainwashed simpletons and mooches who are
enablers, facilitators or promoters for the holocaust industry
like you, o'hara, do take and use every excuse to create, foment
and promulgate even more Anti-Semitism then there already is,
by them incessantly whining on every conceivable occasion:
"holocaust deniers" ... ahaha..... Listen, o'hara, you are such a
mooch. You have been had and you dont' even know it, because
the glory-days of the holocaust profiteers are over... ahahaha...
Nobody denies that the Jewish holocaust took place but
a lot of people question the ever growing exaggerations that
were/are promoted by the US based holocaust industry.
How these exaggerations came to be can be seen in here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/42dc3fffa5b8a461
Furthermore, mooch o'hara, you should take the following
to heart. It says in that link above:. ... "not a single one of the
tragic victims will ever come back, not any of your alleged
6 million nor any of the total 200 million casualties caused by
genocides that happened globally during the 20th century.
Your Jewish deaths are merely a small 3% portion of that
enormous tragedy, yet you Jews with your holocaust-industry
make 97% of the noise over it.... and exploit it.. for $$$..."
So, mooch o'hara, find another, more intelligent 1-liner then
the one you have posted above if you want to get at Potter.
Do yourself that favor, instead of telling the whole world that
you are a mooch, who has been had, you being a member
of those "holocaust promoters who are a strange breed" indeed.
Now then, mooch o'hara, apologize to Potter; then have some
fun.... and lastly from me to you: Thanks for the laughs, o'hara.
AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....ahahaha... ahahahanson
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30 Aug 2006 09:10:44 AM |
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ray o'hara wrote:
<tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156828624.526985.219580@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Dave Seaman wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:23 GMT, Dik T. Winter wrote:
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Potter"
<tdp1001@yahoo.com> writes:
...
Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
In fact, it was Germany that declared war on the U.S. (immediately after
the U.S. declared war on Japan), not the other way around.
Dave Seaman makes a good point when he points out that
Japan was pushed into a Bush-like "preemptive" action
because of the illegal aggressions that FDR was taking against Japan,
(The Flying Tigers, embargo's, Lend Lease, etc.)
the flying tigers went operational after pearl harbor, lend lease was with
britian.
japan had been waging war against china since the early 30s. china was a
friendly nation and deserved help.
boycotts and embargos are considered the correct way to stop a nation acting
aggressively.
do you think the sanctions against saddam or south africa were wrong?
and that the German people honored their contract with Japan
and the other nations that had taken a stand against the
gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
germany's treaty with japan was a defensive treaty only. germany was not
obligated to declare war when japan acted aggressively. nor vice versa, that
is why japan was not obligated to declare war on poland,france, england or
russia when germany started the european war.
After the Jews got Russia under their control,
they bought and intimidated a few key American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).
stalin was jewish?
ray o'hara makes a good point that
the War-for-Profit gang
always uses front men
like Stalin, FDR, Bush, Blair, etc.
that they can blame for the crimes later.
You can bet that as their Religious Wars come unglued,
that Jews will be lining up blaming Bush for using
them and Israel.
Even though Stalin killed a few Jews to protect his *****,
Jews maintained the vast majority of the key positions
in the Russian government.
You can bet
that although Bush is owned by the Israeli Lobby,
that if Bush became dictator,
and got paranoiac about some Jews harming him,
that he would take out a few Jews.
just as Stalin did to protect his *****.
Andf of course Stalin had a Jewish wife.
I suggest that ray o'hara
study a little history ,
and see who controlled the key positions in Russia,
even up until the collapse of the Soviet Union.
As can be seen, when their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government,
the Jews in Russia initiated a phony "Free Jews" scam
and got America to admit thousands of the Jews
who were active in the Cold War against America,
at the expense of the American taxpayer, no less.
It is also interesting to see that many of these Jews
claimed to have been forced to go to safe, remote
areas of Russia when WWII was dangerous,
and lo and behold, they came back to Moscow, Leningrad, etc.
after the war was over and the housing was rebuilt,
and lo and behold, they went to the best universities,
and had the best jobs.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://www.frappr.com/tompotter
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
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| Title: Re: "These Holocaust 'deniers' are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures." - Steven Some, Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education. |
30 Aug 2006 02:01:46 PM |
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Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> the great sage in Jewish affairs w/i
news:1156947044.302004.98960@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
After the Jews got Russia under their control, they bought
and intimidated a few key American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).
[o'hara]
stalin was jewish? ... [o'hara, you mooch, your are Jew baiting]
[Potter]
ray o'hara makes a good point that the War-for-Profit gang
always uses front men like Stalin, FDR, Bush, Blair, etc.
that they can blame for the crimes later.
You can bet that as their Religious Wars come unglued,
that Jews will be lining up blaming Bush for using
them and Israel.
[hanson]
ahahaha.. you are tardy, Potter. That is already in full swing.
Lots of Jews are already full fletched into antiwar activities...
Of course only after they had achieved their own Jew objective,
thru Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Rob
Loewenberg, David Wurmser and Meyrav Wurmser (known as
the architects of Gulf war 2) who had goaded Bush to go into
Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussein for him having lobbed a few
Scuds into Israel 5 years earlier during Gulf war 1:.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/69f1aedfd606fc46
Now Bush has become expendable for them.... ahahaha....
and Wolfowitz is now president of the World Bank.... AHAHAHA...
See, Jews are grateful people... to their own.. while not so much
to the goyim, a trait that your friends the Germans proverbed as:
**** "Für das Gewesene gibt der Jude nichts" ****... translated as:
"Jews give a ***** for past favors given to them".... ahahahaha...
[Potter]
Even though Stalin killed a few Jews to protect his *****,
Jews maintained the vast majority of the key positions
in the Russian government.
You can bet that although Bush is owned by the Israeli Lobby,
that if Bush became dictator, and got paranoiac about some
Jews harming him, that he would take out a few Jews.
just as Stalin did to protect his *****.
Andf of course Stalin had a Jewish wife.
[hanson]
ahahaha... Tom, of course, the Jews made Stalin do that.
She, Nadezhda Alliluyeva instgated it, n'est pas. ...It lead to a
Big Time Orothodx Yiddle-Commie Shotgun Wedding...
ahahaha...
[Potter]
I suggest that ray o'hara study a little history ,
and see who controlled the key positions in Russia,
even up until the collapse of the Soviet Union.
As can be seen, when their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government,
the Jews in Russia initiated a phony "Free Jews" scam
and got America to admit thousands of the Jews
who were active in the Cold War against America,
at the expense of the American taxpayer, no less.
It is also interesting to see that many of these Jews
claimed to have been forced to go to safe, remote
areas of Russia when WWII was dangerous,
and lo and behold, they came back to Moscow, Leningrad, etc.
after the war was over and the housing was rebuilt,
and lo and behold, they went to the best universities,
and had the best jobs.
--
Tom Potter
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp/
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
http://no-turtles.com
http://www.frappr.com/tompotter
http://photos.yahoo.com/tdp1001
http://spaces.msn.com/tdp1001
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com
[hanson]
See, Tom, all of your sites are up and operational again.
See, Tom, you are much mightier then the Jews!
It didn't even take 24 hrs after your mighty persona
exposed the culprits who then very quickly reneged,
..... after you had posted yesterday in dismay:
[:::Tom Potter]
::: Web Pages and BLOGS shut down due to vandalism by Jews.
[::hanson]
:: "ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahahaha... AHAHAHA....You must
:: be kidding, Tom, or you must have managed to ..... more in
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.media.tv.time-team/msg/c31c4a28c420913a
It also contains analogue-issues of the Weimar Republic and the
current US govt. situation which you have not touched yet in your
profound essays of the World's Jew History a la Tom Potter.
ahahaha... ahahahanson
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30 Aug 2006 04:59:06 PM |
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hanson wrote:
[hanson]
ahahaha.. .. ahahaha....
and Wolfowitz is now president of the World Bank...
... ahahahaha...
[hanson]
ahahaha...
:: "ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
Dude, if all holocaust deniers are as intelligent and eloquent as you
are, well ... I guess I can relax and have some brew (as you have
suggested).
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30 Aug 2006 05:56:38 PM |
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<porky_pig_jr@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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[hanson]
ahahaha.. .. ahahaha....
and Wolfowitz is now president of the World Bank...
... ahahahaha...
[Porki]
Dude, if all holocaust deniers are as intelligent and eloquent
as you are, well ... I guess I can relax and have some brew
(as you have suggested).
[hanson]
ahahaha... ahahaha... well, since your "all" presumably would
include me, I say that you are still in the dark & uptight, porki.
So, relax some more and enjoy another ham sandwich, lots
of crunchy pork rind (no pun & no skin off your back intended)
with a great German lager and then show me where I have
denied the holocaust. Here for your benefit are the links:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/42dc3fffa5b8a461
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.media.tv.time-team/msg/dbf07a0393b959bd
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.media.tv.time-team/msg/3b5db648199ccfe5
Do you finally begin to see the light, porki, or do you enjoy
being porked by the holocaust industry forever?.... ahahaha..
Thanks for the laughs, porki.
ahahaha...
:: "ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
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31 Aug 2006 01:17:23 AM |
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as far as the sanctions are concerned regarding South Africa whether they
are considered right or wrong and are beneficial or not to bring change to a
country, the fact remains the vast majority of south Africans (non
Europeans) suffered more at the hand of sanctions than they did under
apartheid secondly where are the great nations like the UK and USA when it
comes Zimbabwe seems to me that if a country has no wealth then the great 8
nations has no interest in bring political change
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| User: "hanson" |
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29 Aug 2006 10:35:47 PM |
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Tom Potter <tdp1001@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[Tom]
Toto the Dog makes a good point when he suggests that the German
people were very ***** because the Jews that were instigating>
the Class Wars of the 1900's, bought a few politicians in America
and England, who conned and forced their citizens to sacrifice
their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes to wage war against the
German people who recognized the dangers of allowing Jews to take
over Germany [1] as they had Russia, and were taking a stand against
the instigators of the Class Wars.
[hanson]
That [1] appears to be the prevailing historic view. Tom, do cite
sources of/from the "Weimar Republic" and show that it was a govt
that was infested with Jews much like the situation/condition that
is developing today in the US & the UK where, like back then
Germany was strong but isolated, ...like the US & GB is today...
Well, Potter, maybe you are right. Maybe history is going to
repeat itself... Let's hope that it will not have the same outcome.
[Dik T. Winter]
In article <44f28f52$0$8825$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
I always thought that the US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor,
and that the UK did not enter war until war against the UK was
started. I must have been wrong all that time.
[Dave Seaman]
In fact, it was Germany that declared war on the U.S. (immediately after
the U.S. declared war on Japan), not the other way around.
[Potter]
Dave Seaman makes a good point when he points out that
Japan was pushed into a Bush-like "preemptive" action
because of the illegal aggressions that FDR was taking against Japan,
(The Flying Tigers, embargo's, Lend Lease, etc.)
and that the German people honored their contract with Japan
and the other nations that had taken a stand against the
gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.
After the Jews got Russia under their control, they
bought and intimidated a few key American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).
If FDR had opposed the gang instigating the Class Wars,
rather than sell out to them, WWII would have lasted six months,
and there would have been no Cold War, no nuclear weapons,
no Korean War, no Vietnam War, no 911, no Religious Wars, etc.
Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to Swiftboat the new leaders,
(Truman, Nixon, Hoover, McCarthy, etc.),
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the takeover of America
by the War-for-profit gang.
--
Tom Potter
Web Pages and BLOGS shut down due to vandalism by Jews.
[hanson]
ahahaha... AHAHAHA...ahahaha... AHAHAHA....You must be
kidding, Tom, or you must have managed to whip yourself into
a lather of hysteria of unprecedented dimensions because of
your profound depth of interest into the instigations by the Jews...
ahahaha... But, as a consolation price, Tom, relax, because
I am sure that the dearly departed & once semi-beautiful Golda
Meir would say to you now her famous quote & smile upon you with:
*** "Tom, don't be so humble, you are not that important".***
ahahahaha... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
Tom, have you ever wondered what would be worse/better...
(1) to live under the thumb of screaming, domineering,
grandstanding, boasting and thieving Zionist Jews or
(2) under the loving care of Hitler's benign Gestapo, or
(3) under the heavenly supervision of the Taliban's Mullahs, or
(4) under the enlightened guidance the Mao's Red Guards?
etc...
Tom, don't let me cramp your style. Carry on with your essential
mission ordained by your god. Thanks for the many, many laughs
you have bestowed on me and all humankind.... ahahahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahanson
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27 Aug 2006 10:48:47 AM |
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http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/people/liberato.htm
http://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/dl/holocaust/holocaustpage.html
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/bldead26.htm
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