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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "david"
Date: 02 Feb 2005 03:52:01 PM
Object: things...
http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/630/
Transhumanism might be described as the technology of advanced
individual enhancement. While it includes physical modifications
(diamondoid teeth, self-styling hair, autocleaning ears, nanotube bones,
lipid metabolizers, polymer muscles), most of the interest in the
technology focuses on the integration of brains and computers—especially
brains and networks. Sample transhumanist apps could include cell phone
implants (which would allow virtual telepathy), memory backups and
augmenters, thought recorders, reflex accelerators, collaborative
consciousness (whiteboarding in the brain), and a very long list of
thought-controlled actuators. Ultimately, the technology could extend to
the uploading and downloading of entire minds in and out of host bodies,
providing a self-consciousness that, theoretically, would have no
definitive nor necessary end. That is, immortality, of a sort.
===
Who in their right mind would desire God-less immortality, as a God-less
bio-machine...engineered as something a whole lot less than human?
Who in their right mind would find it desirable to be eternally
programmed to carry out their God-less 'duties' dictated to them by
their God-less programmers, as a hellbound God-less 'thing'...?
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User: "Prai Jei"

Title: Re: things... 05 Feb 2005 05:25:36 AM
david (or somebody else of the same name) wrote thusly in message
<42014B81.3070200@ak.net>:

self-styling hair,

Already got this, my hair has been stuck with a particular wavy style since
childhood, and there's nothing that anybody can do to change it.
(And I like it, so no spam please)
--
Paul Townsend
Pair them off into threes
Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: things... 02 Feb 2005 04:03:19 PM
david wrote:


http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/630/

Transhumanism might be described as the technology of advanced
individual enhancement.

[snip]
Bottom lines: 1) send money. 2) we saw the Borg Collective and
cribbed our homework.

That is, immortality, of a sort.

[snip
Enable general somatic telomerase. Average human lifespan is reset to
about five centuries. Now then, git, how much of that will be spent
in senility?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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User: "Maleki"

Title: Re: things... 03 Feb 2005 09:46:57 AM
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:03:19 -0800, Uncle Al wrote:

Enable general somatic telomerase. Average human lifespan is reset to
about five centuries. Now then, git, how much of that will be spent
in senility?


If we had "gifted" (Kolker's *****) Uncle Al Likudniks who
lived 500 years each while in charge of dealing with
Moslems, we would end up with short-lived Moslems for the
humanity as a consequence.
Senility is nothing compared to Likudnicity.
--
khAst zire abrusho vardAreh cheshesho kur kard.
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User: ""

Title: Re: lifespan 02 Feb 2005 04:31:21 PM
Uncle Al wrote:

Enable general somatic telomerase. Average human lifespan is reset to
about five centuries.

So do you think that, say ten millennia ago, some people lived 500, 600, or even 1000 years?
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User: "Uncle Al"

Title: Re: lifespan 02 Feb 2005 09:21:22 PM
"Ágent Smïð \"You côuld say that we are the same pêrson\"" wrote:


Uncle Al wrote:

Enable general somatic telomerase. Average human lifespan is reset to
about five centuries.

So do you think that, say ten millennia ago, some people lived 500, 600, or even 1000 years?

500 years is perfectly reasonable barring physical trauma and
malnutrition. While the body would be repaired via telomerase
preventing permanent cellular damage, the mind would most likely
degenerate. A bunch of very old, very insane folk is a hotbed of
religious discovery.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
.

User: "tj Frazir"

Title: Re: lifespan 02 Feb 2005 07:39:29 PM
4 billion years.
Evry carbon atom you recorded all you know on will fall into the back
hole in 1.3 billion years . then evry carbon atom makes you your own
wittness. Evry carbon atom will change states
and there will be a new world with streets made of gold as clear as
glass.
Where all things and all times is ours.
provived by gods active force.
jesus gave you his carbon atom for your dna to copy so you wount be
alone.
1/2 second after you die 1.3 billion years will have passed.
Thats where the word is.
On evry carbon atom we call the soul.

150 years is what man was biult to do.
I jsut talked with an old dude on an island 125.
He talks all day.

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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: things... 03 Feb 2005 10:56:28 AM
david wrote:

Who in their right mind would desire God-less immortality, as a God-less
bio-machine...engineered as something a whole lot less than human?

Sure. Better to remain with the good, old-fashioned kind of
programming written by religious idiots that can't even get pi right.

Who in their right mind would find it desirable to be eternally
programmed to carry out their God-less 'duties' dictated to them by
their God-less programmers, as a hellbound God-less 'thing'...?

Your kind, gentle, loving deity is terrified of immortal humans
capable of discernment; read Genesis 3:22. That's enough reason right
there for us to shoot for immortality.
Mark L. Fergerson
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User: "PD"

Title: Re: things... 03 Feb 2005 11:06:25 AM
Mark Fergerson wrote:

david wrote:

Who in their right mind would desire God-less immortality, as a

God-less

bio-machine...engineered as something a whole lot less than human?


Sure. Better to remain with the good, old-fashioned kind of
programming written by religious idiots that can't even get pi right.

Who in their right mind would find it desirable to be eternally
programmed to carry out their God-less 'duties' dictated to them by
their God-less programmers, as a hellbound God-less 'thing'...?


Your kind, gentle, loving deity is terrified of immortal humans
capable of discernment; read Genesis 3:22. That's enough reason right
there for us to shoot for immortality.

Why, that sounds just like what the serpent said to Eve!
Of course, since she went on ahead and did it anyway, there's no
putting the fruit back on the tree. Now we have to fight and scrap our
way to a better understanding, beating off clowns and cranks as we go.
PD


Mark L. Fergerson

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User: "Mark Fergerson"

Title: Re: things... 03 Feb 2005 12:47:57 PM
PD wrote:

Mark Fergerson wrote:

Your kind, gentle, loving deity is terrified of immortal humans
capable of discernment; read Genesis 3:22. That's enough reason right
there for us to shoot for immortality.

Why, that sounds just like what the serpent said to Eve!

The events recounted in the passage I cited prove the serpent right.

Of course, since she went on ahead and did it anyway, there's no
putting the fruit back on the tree. Now we have to fight and scrap our
way to a better understanding, beating off clowns and cranks as we go.

Yep.
Mark L. Fergerson
.



User: "PD"

Title: Re: things... 02 Feb 2005 04:23:44 PM
david wrote:

http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/630/

Transhumanism might be described as the technology of advanced
individual enhancement. While it includes physical modifications
(diamondoid teeth, self-styling hair, autocleaning ears, nanotube

bones,

lipid metabolizers, polymer muscles), most of the interest in the
technology focuses on the integration of brains and

computers-especially

brains and networks. Sample transhumanist apps could include cell

phone

implants (which would allow virtual telepathy), memory backups and
augmenters, thought recorders, reflex accelerators, collaborative
consciousness (whiteboarding in the brain), and a very long list of
thought-controlled actuators. Ultimately, the technology could extend

to

the uploading and downloading of entire minds in and out of host

bodies,

providing a self-consciousness that, theoretically, would have no
definitive nor necessary end. That is, immortality, of a sort.

===

Who in their right mind would desire God-less immortality, as a

God-less

bio-machine...engineered as something a whole lot less than human?

Who in their right mind would find it desirable to be eternally
programmed to carry out their God-less 'duties' dictated to them by
their God-less programmers, as a hellbound God-less 'thing'...?

God-fearing does not equal Luddite.
Who has illuminated you to discern between that which God has opened
the doors for us to discover, and that which God never intended us to
learn?
And if these technological augmentations consistently ease more
suffering than they cause, is this not to God's purpose?
PD
.

User: "Mike"

Title: Re: things... 02 Feb 2005 04:37:28 PM
david wrote:

http://www.transhumanism.org/index.php/WTA/more/630/

Transhumanism might be described as the technology of advanced
individual enhancement. While it includes physical modifications
(diamondoid teeth, self-styling hair, autocleaning ears, nanotube

bones,

lipid metabolizers, polymer muscles), most of the interest in the
technology focuses on the integration of brains and

computers-especially

brains and networks. Sample transhumanist apps could include cell

phone

implants (which would allow virtual telepathy), memory backups and
augmenters, thought recorders, reflex accelerators, collaborative
consciousness (whiteboarding in the brain), and a very long list of
thought-controlled actuators. Ultimately, the technology could extend

to

the uploading and downloading of entire minds in and out of host

bodies,

providing a self-consciousness that, theoretically, would have no
definitive nor necessary end. That is, immortality, of a sort.

===

Who in their right mind would desire God-less immortality, as a

God-less

bio-machine...engineered as something a whole lot less than human?

Who in their right mind would find it desirable to be eternally
programmed to carry out their God-less 'duties' dictated to them by
their God-less programmers, as a hellbound God-less 'thing'...?

You think like that because you have an earlier version OS with a bug
in it. Please download the patch and you'll be ok. You are a
malfunctionig unit.
Error report:
<The word 'God' is not in the dictionary of version 666 OS>
Mike
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