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User: "Rick Sobie"
Date: 07 Feb 2004 09:37:00 AM
Object: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon
As some of you may know, I have put up a website, which deals
with some of the extraordinary events which have occurred recently.
This site is dedicated to Steven Hawking - who as some of you may
not be aware - is not merely a physicist of great renown, but
also a rap star. Author of such hits as "F*ck the Creationists"
and other tunes. There is a link at the top of the Timeline of
Events if you would like to learn more about this dedication.
I would also have liked to dedicate it to Dr. Michio Kaku,
for his work on string theory. String theory as you may know
appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.
You might remember him from Transcendal Meditation and his full
page ads about Unity and string theory according to Vedic Scripture
several years ago.
But when Dr. Kaku suggested that the moon was a Von Neuman Probe
I was forced to reconsider my dedication.
For the moon is not a Von Neuman Probe, it is something far more
mysterious, far more exciting than that.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm
p.s.Although technically and in principal it might serve as a form
of Von Neuman Probe, it is however, much larger than a nanobot.
.

User: "Darkwing Duck"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 01:17:40 PM
"Rick Sobie" <rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:wC7Vb.425481$X%5.47435@pd7tw2no...
<SNIP>
k00k!!!!!!!
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The Duck
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User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 01:40:54 PM
In article <102aedm6k6np9df@news.supernews.com>,
says...



"Rick Sobie" <rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:wC7Vb.425481$X%5.47435@pd7tw2no...

<SNIP>

k00k!!!!!!!

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Duck!
The Rick
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User: "Darkwing Duck"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 02:32:57 PM
"Rick Sobie" <rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:abbVb.416255$JQ1.168668@pd7tw1no...

In article <102aedm6k6np9df@news.supernews.com>,


says...



"Rick Sobie" <rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:wC7Vb.425481$X%5.47435@pd7tw2no...

<SNIP>

k00k!!!!!!!

-------------------------------------------------------
The Duck




Duck!

The Rick

Do you really believe any of the stuff you claim? Occam's Razor would
disagree with you on pretty much anything you blab out.
------------------------------------------
The Duck
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User: "Mark Martin"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 02:49:22 PM
(Rick Sobie) wrote in message news:<wC7Vb.425481$X%5.47435@pd7tw2no>...

As some of you may know, I have put up a website, which deals
with some of the extraordinary events which have occurred recently.

This site is dedicated to Steven Hawking -

Is he any relative of Stephen Hawking?

I would also have liked to dedicate it to Dr. Michio Kaku,
for his work on string theory. String theory as you may know
appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.
You might remember him from Transcendal Meditation and his full
page ads about Unity and string theory according to Vedic Scripture
several years ago.

I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to attribute priority to the
old ones. A speculative model remains only a model until it actually
returns more than is invested. Priority for string "theory" can be
claimed by the ancients all they want. It still isn't demonstrated.
How embarassed they might have to be if string model fails to be more
than a lazy freeloader.
-Mark Martin
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User: "Darkwing Duck"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 07:42:58 PM
"Mark Martin" <qed100@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7d087978.0402071249.1270113@posting.google.com...

rsobie@nospamshaw.ca (Rick Sobie) wrote in message

news:<wC7Vb.425481$X%5.47435@pd7tw2no>...

As some of you may know, I have put up a website, which deals
with some of the extraordinary events which have occurred recently.

This site is dedicated to Steven Hawking -


Is he any relative of Stephen Hawking?

I would also have liked to dedicate it to Dr. Michio Kaku,
for his work on string theory. String theory as you may know
appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.
You might remember him from Transcendal Meditation and his full
page ads about Unity and string theory according to Vedic Scripture
several years ago.


I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to attribute priority to the
old ones. A speculative model remains only a model until it actually
returns more than is invested. Priority for string "theory" can be
claimed by the ancients all they want. It still isn't demonstrated.
How embarassed they might have to be if string model fails to be more
than a lazy freeloader.

-Mark Martin

Still haven't found that massless particle eh'?
---------------------------------------------------
The Duck
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User: "etLux"

Title: re:Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 10:23:45 PM
Facts indeed... here's a "revelation" that should fit right in:
Crop Circle
Found on the Moon.
I'm sure Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi could find investors to go farm the
wheat underneath it.
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User: "Rick"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 04:42:20 PM
It seems as though my server is having trouble dealing with all the html
requests, so I have put a mirror site.
I appologize for any inconvenience (and for the ads on the mirror site)
but it was the best I could do on short notice.
http://moonship.s-enterprize.com/default.htm
.

User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 10:15:58 AM
Rick Sobie wrote:

appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.

The only thing successfuly translated by the Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi was
the money paid to him by the suckers, translated successfuly to the bank
where it was deposited. That is why he was smiling most of the time. He
was on his way to the bank. In the Vedas you will find not one line of
mathematics, therefore the Vedas have nothing quantitative to say about
nature. Mathematics is the language of physics. If you don't have the
math, you don't have the physics.
Bob Kolker
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User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 10:37:40 AM
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


Rick Sobie wrote:

appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.


The only thing successfuly translated by the Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi was
the money paid to him by the suckers, translated successfuly to the bank
where it was deposited. That is why he was smiling most of the time. He
was on his way to the bank. In the Vedas you will find not one line of
mathematics, therefore the Vedas have nothing quantitative to say about
nature. Mathematics is the language of physics. If you don't have the
math, you don't have the physics.

Bob Kolker

My sister gave that SOB more than ten grand! She still can get her
mind to the "next higher plane", walk through walls or levitate... and
the "scientific" horoscopes were just crap. She even hired a woman in
Fairfield to heal my Dad two weeks before he died of cancer at age 80.

Passing of Iowa Farmer, Richard B. Wormley (1918-1999)
http://www.edu-observatory.org/wormley/Richard_B_Wormley.html
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User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 11:47:55 AM
In article <40251453.F63103D9@mchsi.com>,
says...



My sister gave that SOB more than ten grand! She still can get her
mind to the "next higher plane", walk through walls or levitate... and
the "scientific" horoscopes were just crap. She even hired a woman in
Fairfield to heal my Dad two weeks before he died of cancer at age 80.

Hi Sam,
As I said to Bob, I am not here to defend the Transcendal Meditation
movement but merely to relate the facts as I have found them.
But I am sure you heard of the story in the Bible of the Lilies
of the Field.
Where it states, (and I am paraphrasing) that for as God tends to
the needs of the lilies of the field,and the birds of the air,
so he looks after man.
But life can be hard, and work a chore, and often we forget
that though God may care for the birds of the air, the worms
do not fall directly into their mouths.
Now I am not saying that somehow she was not successful due to
her own lack of ability, for who truly knows these things and
how they work. But for every story I hear such as the one above,
there are plenty of stories of people who have found peace and
happiness in techniques of this kind, and similar.
.
User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 11:59:47 AM
Rick Sobie wrote:


As I said to Bob, I am not here to defend the Transcendal Meditation
movement but merely to relate the facts as I have found them.

Do you know what "disingenuous" means?
You have related no facts. You have shared ***** and bull notions not
substantiated by any careful measurements or reasoning.
As for the Maharish, Herbert Benson M.D. produced a similar method of
mental excercise without all the far eastern *****. Read -The
Relaxation Response-. The West is ahead because Western thinking is
better, broader and deeper than anything the East has produced.
Bob Kolker
.
User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 03:00:25 PM
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


Rick Sobie wrote:


As I said to Bob, I am not here to defend the Transcendal Meditation
movement but merely to relate the facts as I have found them.


Do you know what "disingenuous" means?

You have related no facts. You have shared ***** and bull notions not
substantiated by any careful measurements or reasoning.

As for the Maharish, Herbert Benson M.D. produced a similar method of
mental excercise without all the far eastern *****. Read -The
Relaxation Response-. The West is ahead because Western thinking is
better, broader and deeper than anything the East has produced.

Bob Kolker


Better yet--Take a nap.
.

User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 12:14:48 PM
In article <mI9Vb.199462$nt4.902639@attbi_s51>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


As I said to Bob, I am not here to defend the Transcendal Meditation
movement but merely to relate the facts as I have found them.


Do you know what "disingenuous" means?

Yes, but here is a definition for those who do not:
"Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating:
an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical
operator, who... exemplified... the most disagreeable
traits of his time"
Certainly I am not a philistine who exemplifies the most disagreeable
traits of our time. That honor must surely go to those who
promote the Judeo Christian Ethic mythos for monetary gain.
But allow me to clarify, my statement.
I am not here to defend their fantastic claims.

You have related no facts. You have shared ***** and bull notions not
substantiated by any careful measurements or reasoning.

What is the square root of 2 Bob? Why do you and those who you seem
to be promoting as the guardians of the truth, ignore those facts
which do not agree with their beliefs, and desires?

As for the Maharish, Herbert Benson M.D. produced a similar method of
mental excercise without all the far eastern *****. Read -The
Relaxation Response-. The West is ahead because Western thinking is
better, broader and deeper than anything the East has produced.

I can only refer you to my website again, and ask you look upon
it with an open mind, and gaze in wonder, at what the east
has produced and to realize that everything you have come to
believe, was based on their work over millions of years, and that
work, also was handed down from the heavens, where it was
developed eons ago.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 03:23:57 AM
Rick Sobie wrote:


In article <40251453.F63103D9@mchsi.com>,

says...



My sister gave that SOB more than ten grand! She still can get her
mind to the "next higher plane", walk through walls or levitate... and
the "scientific" horoscopes were just crap. She even hired a woman in
Fairfield to heal my Dad two weeks before he died of cancer at age 80.


Hi Sam,

As I said to Bob, I am not here to defend the Transcendal Meditation
movement but merely to relate the facts as I have found them.

But I am sure you heard of the story in the Bible of the Lilies
of the Field.

Where it states, (and I am paraphrasing) that for as God tends to
the needs of the lilies of the field,and the birds of the air,
so he looks after man.

But life can be hard, and work a chore, and often we forget
that though God may care for the birds of the air, the worms
do not fall directly into their mouths.

Now I am not saying that somehow she was not successful due to
her own lack of ability, for who truly knows these things and
how they work. But for every story I hear such as the one above,
there are plenty of stories of people who have found peace and
happiness in techniques of this kind, and similar.

And not one, not a single, solitary one who can levitate.
TM is a huge fraud designed as a sort of tax on stupidity and
pathological gullibility.
.
User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 09:14:26 AM
\The Commentator// wrote:

And not one, not a single, solitary one who can levitate.

TM is a huge fraud designed as a sort of tax on stupidity and
pathological gullibility.

And now you know why the Maharishi used to smile on his way to the bank.
Bob Kolker
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 01:16:25 PM
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:


\The Commentator// wrote:

And not one, not a single, solitary one who can levitate.

TM is a huge fraud designed as a sort of tax on stupidity and
pathological gullibility.


And now you know why the Maharishi used to smile on his way to the bank.

Bob Kolker

Yup. Nice little scam he has there.
.





User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 11:26:50 AM
In article <1b8Vb.198878$nt4.888260@attbi_s51>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:

appears in the ancient Vedas, translated by Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi.


The only thing successfuly translated by the Mahrishi Mahesh Yogi was
the money paid to him by the suckers, translated successfuly to the bank
where it was deposited. That is why he was smiling most of the time. He
was on his way to the bank. In the Vedas you will find not one line of
mathematics, therefore the Vedas have nothing quantitative to say about
nature. Mathematics is the language of physics. If you don't have the
math, you don't have the physics.

Bob Kolker

Hi Bob,
I am not here to defend Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from his detractors,
any more than I am here to defend Christianity from the Cathars,
http://gnosistraditions.faithweb.com/mont.html
or any of the other groups through the ages who they found themselves
at odds with for one reason or another.
To each his or her own, as each person marches to their own drummer.
I am merely stating that he did place full page ads in Newspapers
with his translation of the Vedic Scriptures regarding unity
and string theory.
I cannot recall when exactly he did this, but it would have been about
12 years ago.
As far as physics being math, and nothing but the math, that is pure
poppycock. It is full of theorums, and theory, and postulates.
Not only that but math itself is only an approximation of the truth,
as can be glimpsed from the following:
1/9 = .11111, 2/9 = .22222, but 9/9 = not .99999 but just 1.
And what is the square root of 2?
So you see Bob, unfortunately you live in a world which puts forth
the Judeo Christian world view, with its work week from Genesis,
and its marriage laws, which do not apply to couples who merely
co-habitate, and the fervent belief that the Bible is the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, in lieu of scientific
discoveries which show that it is more of series of story books,
(many of which have been left out of the sanctoned versions),
designed to uplift the spirit of mankind, and bring him or her
closer to God.
.
User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 11:56:56 AM
Rick Sobie wrote:


Hi Bob,

I am not here to defend Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from his detractors,

The ***** you are not.
Now I ask you. Produce one published quantiative prediction about nature
that the Maharish made, sustantiated by experiment and pertaining to
fundamental natural objects or processes. Please quote a reputable
journal, and quote independendent corroberation of the Maharishis
prediction. Also show that these predictions could not have been made by
any means independent of the Vedas.
Please write us when you have done that.
Bob Kolker
.
User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 12:56:10 PM
In article <IF9Vb.195311$5V2.1054731@attbi_s53>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


Hi Bob,

I am not here to defend Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from his detractors,


The ***** you are not.

Now I ask you. Produce one published quantiative prediction about nature
that the Maharish made, sustantiated by experiment and pertaining to
fundamental natural objects or processes. Please quote a reputable
journal, and quote independendent corroberation of the Maharishis
prediction. Also show that these predictions could not have been made by
any means independent of the Vedas.

Please write us when you have done that.

Bob Kolker


And Bob one last thing. If you examine that which you have come to
believe, and that which convinces you of truth, you will see that
it is authority, which convinces you of truth.
The appeal to authority, as authority alone is the harbinger of truth.
Perhaps we all have our own belief in some authority, and that
authority, which we look up to and respect, and in doing so,
this opens the door to our consciousness to permit us to
believe, taht which come to call the truth.
The truth is probability.
And that is perhaps why Dr. Kaku cannot put forth beliefs on Art Bell
that vistors from elsewhere are here. As his authority, the scientific
establishment that he is a part of, denies their existence.
Even though, a large part of that same establishment, is on the
record, making claim and showing proof, that they have and do
visit earth often.
http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm
But that pales in comparison, to the moon as BATTLESTAR!
.

User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 12:35:05 PM
In article <IF9Vb.195311$5V2.1054731@attbi_s53>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


Hi Bob,

I am not here to defend Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from his detractors,


The ***** you are not.

Now I ask you. Produce one published quantiative prediction about nature
that the Maharish made, sustantiated by experiment and pertaining to
fundamental natural objects or processes. Please quote a reputable
journal, and quote independendent corroberation of the Maharishis
prediction. Also show that these predictions could not have been made by
any means independent of the Vedas.

Please write us when you have done that.

Bob Kolker


Bob, you are scaring me.right now. Few other disciplines have
undergone as much scientific scutiny as the Transcendental Meditation
movement and proved to relieve stress and promote health.
Do a brief search and the reems of material can easily be found.
For all I know the Maharishi was forced to bring forth his
fantastic claims to stem the tide, lest he find himself
at the head of a movement which would coalesce the world
into one single minded movement and detract from the
variety of purpose and perspective in the world.
But again, he merely translated the texts in question and this is not
part of my arguments at all. I merely stated that he translated
the Vedic scriptures which spoke of string theory contrary to
that which Dr. Kaku, who incidentally is a very honorable
man, although somewhat misguided in his beliefs.
I have thoroughly enjoyed his work over the years and quote him
often.
And as Einstein once said (and yes you may bow your head while
I read this...)
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its
own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he
contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous
structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend
a little of this mystery every day."
and last but not least...
The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion
which is based on experience, which refuses to be dogmatic. If there's
any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism....
Now I may not agree with him totally, but I do feel a sort of kindred
spirit in the man, and feel that he touched the untouchable,
felt the unfelt, and drank of the ambrosia of the gods,
and in doing so, left the world just a little wiser, a little
more humble perhaps, and a better place than when he arrived.
Did you know that he died with a copy of Velikovski's "Worlds in
Collision" on his desk? He never stopped questioning, and
always kept his mind open to new ideas. Even those which may
have proved him wrong.
For it is the search for truth my friend, that is the thing.
That alone can bring us forth from the darkness of ignorance
to the light of enlightenment. So that we might bodly go,
not as Americans and not as Chinese and not as Europeans,
but as men.
.
User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 01:25:44 PM
Rick Sobie wrote:


Bob, you are scaring me.right now. Few other disciplines have
undergone as much scientific scutiny as the Transcendental Meditation
movement and proved to relieve stress and promote health.

As Herbert Benson M.D. found out by empirical researches . However it is
a long way from showing some benefits of the relaxation response (aka
trancendental meditation) to String Theory. Jedi Mind Tricks have been
known throughout the ages. These are NOT physics. The Vedas have nothing
to say about reality of a testable quantitative nature.
Bob Kolker
.
User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 01:40:31 PM
In article <YYaVb.243222$xy6.1284745@attbi_s02>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


Bob, you are scaring me.right now. Few other disciplines have
undergone as much scientific scutiny as the Transcendental Meditation
movement and proved to relieve stress and promote health.


As Herbert Benson M.D. found out by empirical researches . However it is
a long way from showing some benefits of the relaxation response (aka
trancendental meditation) to String Theory. Jedi Mind Tricks have been
known throughout the ages. These are NOT physics. The Vedas have nothing
to say about reality of a testable quantitative nature.

Bob Kolker

Well its there for those who do not have mental block which prevents them
from accepting the possibility that life exists and has visted
and civilization was brought from some other space and time.
I can see why people would coose to deny the evidence, and not even
bother to take the time to read the accounts of flying ships and
deatils of their propulsion systems, as told in ancient Indian
writings, as they promote the belief that Mesopotamia was the cradle
of civilization, and they can tie that in with the Judeo Christian
Ethic.
What I am saying Bob, is that people have prejudices. And those prjeducies
cause them to try and mislead others and to deny facts, and deny truth
as it exists.
To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...
The square root of 2 is 1.
And 1 x 1 = 2
You have one, and you want to determine what 1 (other individual thing
or idea) times this one you already have, amounts to.
It amounts to 2.
What is the square root of 1?
1
So you see, it is quite logical, whereas based on the misconception that
1 x 1 = 1, leads to an impossibility, and disproves math as being based
in fact or a representation of reality.
Again, because it is difficult to grasp for many...
You have 1, and you want to know what 1 times that one is,
but you are dealing with two items of the same type,
but in this equasion they are two items, two items of the same type.
Hence 1 x 1 = 2. The one you had, and the one you used as multiplier.
And if someone disagrees with this simple logic, then please do explain
how you arrive at your result.

.
User: "Carl R. Osterwald"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 03:25:05 PM
In article <PabVb.416252$JQ1.71172@pd7tw1no>, Rick Sobie
<rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote:

In article <YYaVb.243222$xy6.1284745@attbi_s02>,


says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


Bob, you are scaring me.right now. Few other disciplines have
undergone as much scientific scutiny as the Transcendental Meditation
movement and proved to relieve stress and promote health.


As Herbert Benson M.D. found out by empirical researches . However it is
a long way from showing some benefits of the relaxation response (aka
trancendental meditation) to String Theory. Jedi Mind Tricks have been
known throughout the ages. These are NOT physics. The Vedas have nothing
to say about reality of a testable quantitative nature.

Bob Kolker



Well its there for those who do not have mental block which prevents them
from accepting the possibility that life exists and has visted
and civilization was brought from some other space and time.

I can see why people would coose to deny the evidence, and not even
bother to take the time to read the accounts of flying ships and
deatils of their propulsion systems, as told in ancient Indian
writings, as they promote the belief that Mesopotamia was the cradle
of civilization, and they can tie that in with the Judeo Christian
Ethic.

Free clue: Zechariah Sitchen is kook that mistranslated Sumerian in
order to hammer fit the text into his preconceived notions.

What I am saying Bob, is that people have prejudices. And those prjeducies
cause them to try and mislead others and to deny facts, and deny truth
as it exists.

To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...

The square root of 2 is 1.

And 1 x 1 = 2

You have one, and you want to determine what 1 (other individual thing
or idea) times this one you already have, amounts to.

It amounts to 2.

What is the square root of 1?

1

So you see, it is quite logical, whereas based on the misconception that
1 x 1 = 1, leads to an impossibility, and disproves math as being based
in fact or a representation of reality.

Again, because it is difficult to grasp for many...



You have 1, and you want to know what 1 times that one is,
but you are dealing with two items of the same type,
but in this equasion they are two items, two items of the same type.

Hence 1 x 1 = 2. The one you had, and the one you used as multiplier.

And if someone disagrees with this simple logic, then please do explain
how you arrive at your result.

Are you just yapping out of your hindside?
If you really maintain that 1x1=2, I suggest that you donate the
computer you poast from to the recyclers because it disagrees rather
strongly with your delusional worldview.
-=-=-=-=-
Official AFA-B Bully and Gummint Disinformation Agent
.
User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 08 Feb 2004 11:12:11 AM
In article <070220041425052138%
>,
says...


In article <PabVb.416252$JQ1.71172@pd7tw1no>, Rick Sobie
<rsobie@nospamshaw.ca> wrote:

In article <YYaVb.243222$xy6.1284745@attbi_s02>,


says...




Rick Sobie wrote:


Bob, you are scaring me.right now. Few other disciplines have
undergone as much scientific scutiny as the Transcendental Meditation
movement and proved to relieve stress and promote health.


As Herbert Benson M.D. found out by empirical researches . However it is
a long way from showing some benefits of the relaxation response (aka
trancendental meditation) to String Theory. Jedi Mind Tricks have been
known throughout the ages. These are NOT physics. The Vedas have nothing
to say about reality of a testable quantitative nature.

Bob Kolker



Well its there for those who do not have mental block which prevents them
from accepting the possibility that life exists and has visted
and civilization was brought from some other space and time.

I can see why people would coose to deny the evidence, and not even
bother to take the time to read the accounts of flying ships and
deatils of their propulsion systems, as told in ancient Indian
writings, as they promote the belief that Mesopotamia was the cradle
of civilization, and they can tie that in with the Judeo Christian
Ethic.


Free clue: Zechariah Sitchen is kook that mistranslated Sumerian in
order to hammer fit the text into his preconceived notions.

What I am saying Bob, is that people have prejudices. And those prjeducies
cause them to try and mislead others and to deny facts, and deny truth
as it exists.

To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...

The square root of 2 is 1.

And 1 x 1 = 2

You have one, and you want to determine what 1 (other individual thing
or idea) times this one you already have, amounts to.

It amounts to 2.

What is the square root of 1?

1

So you see, it is quite logical, whereas based on the misconception that
1 x 1 = 1, leads to an impossibility, and disproves math as being based
in fact or a representation of reality.

Again, because it is difficult to grasp for many...



You have 1, and you want to know what 1 times that one is,
but you are dealing with two items of the same type,
but in this equasion they are two items, two items of the same type.

Hence 1 x 1 = 2. The one you had, and the one you used as multiplier.

And if someone disagrees with this simple logic, then please do explain
how you arrive at your result.


Are you just yapping out of your hindside?

If you really maintain that 1x1=2, I suggest that you donate the
computer you poast from to the recyclers because it disagrees rather
strongly with your delusional worldview.

Well Carl, just because you agree with me that Zecharia Sitchin is
promoting his culture and that many of the UFO investigators
have innocently believed his translations in lieu of other
information, does not mean that I am willing to allow you
to destroy my credibility, which I have so fervently
worked to protect, here in alt.usenet.kooks.
But I will let it go this time seeing as I feel that my comments
about you and the bus depot and the memorizing of the phone book,
and your great love of shrimp, including popcorn shrimp,
and fried shrimp, and shrimp in general, was probably a little
over the top.
But be that as it may, my site is back up and running and I now have
2 sites to tend, instead of one.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm
and the mirror
http://moonship.s-enterprize.com/default.htm complete with spam.
(And no there are no prizes involved, that was mere coiincidence
I assure you)
And I have added links at the bottom of the page, and found a
reference in the ancient Vedic text the Bhagavat Purana which tells
of the crew who lives inside the moon. And no Bob, that text was
not translated by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, but does add credence
to my hypothesis.
It also states that it is a veritable paradise. And keep in mind
the actual size of the moonship.
.
User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 08 Feb 2004 11:24:40 AM

But I will let it go this time seeing as I feel that my comments
about you and the bus depot and the memorizing of the phone book,
and your great love of shrimp, including popcorn shrimp,
and fried shrimp, and shrimp in general, was probably a little
over the top.

But be that as it may, my site is back up and running and I now have
2 sites to tend, instead of one.

http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm

and the mirror
http://moonship.s-enterprize.com/default.htm complete with spam.

(And no there are no prizes involved, that was mere coiincidence
I assure you)
And I have added links at the bottom of the page, and found a
reference in the ancient Vedic text the Bhagavat Purana which tells
of the crew who lives inside the moon. And no Bob, that text was
not translated by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, but does add credence
to my hypothesis.

It also states that it is a veritable paradise. And keep in mind
the actual size of the moonship.

And no, on careful examination of the facts, I do not think my sister
Corrine crashed at Roswell, 1) because the bombs dropped in 45 and
Roswell happened in 47, and 2) because Julie beamed down 2 years ago
and she waved at me, in a parking lot. As well I recall seeing a few
other crew members, when we held a meeting at the local pub about
the same time. So you can all stand down.
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 03:37:45 AM
Rick Sobie wrote:



To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...

The square root of 2 is 1.

And 1 x 1 = 2


This is not simple logic, it is simpleton logic, a quite different
thing.
You are either a k00k, or a kid.
Either way, evolve faster.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 06:49:27 AM
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:37:45 -0800 in sci.physics, \\The
Commentator// <Guess@whatthekazoo.com> (\\The Commentator//
<Guess@whatthekazoo.com>) said, directing the reply to sci.physics

Rick Sobie wrote:



To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...

The square root of 2 is 1.

And 1 x 1 = 2



This is not simple logic, it is simpleton logic, a quite different
thing.

You are either a k00k, or a kid.

Either way, evolve faster.

In the Lamarkian sense!
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 10 Feb 2004 01:19:34 PM
Therion Ware wrote:


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:37:45 -0800 in sci.physics, \\The
Commentator// <Guess@whatthekazoo.com> (\\The Commentator//
<Guess@whatthekazoo.com>) said, directing the reply to sci.physics

Rick Sobie wrote:



To answer my own question, as to what is the square root of 2,
it is simple...

The square root of 2 is 1.

And 1 x 1 = 2



This is not simple logic, it is simpleton logic, a quite different
thing.

You are either a k00k, or a kid.

Either way, evolve faster.


In the Lamarkian sense!

In any sense would be an improvement.
.



User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 07 Feb 2004 03:50:55 PM
Rick Sobie wrote:

And if someone disagrees with this simple logic, then please do explain
how you arrive at your result.

You are out of your mind.
Bob Kolker






.
User: "Rick Sobie"

Title: Re: Time Travel and the Revelations regarding the Moon 08 Feb 2004 11:33:35 AM
In article <35dVb.200451$nt4.957355@attbi_s51>,
says...




Rick Sobie wrote:

And if someone disagrees with this simple logic, then please do explain
how you arrive at your result.


You are out of your mind.

And as long as you keep thinking that Bob, I can keep obeying the
Prime Directive.
and share the occasional beer, at least in the same room, with some
of my closest friends, and members of the crew, as I did last summer
in the local saloon.
Look it up if you have a mind to. I mentioned it at the time
in usenet. Probably alt.usenet.kooks. I might have used
an alias though, I don't recall exactly.
But about that theory that the moon might be a battlestar!
If you have not yet seen Richard Hoagland's piece on
Tom Corbett Space Cadet, and the secret asteroid chamber
on Eros, you really should look it up.
There is a link on the bottom of time line of events,
on my site.
Here
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rsobie/default.htm
or here
http://moonship.s-enterprize.com/default.htm
.









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