tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:

It is interesting to see that Sam Wormley
states that General Relativity is a $30B+ industry.

I knew that billions of the taxpayers, hard-earned dollars
went into trying to rationalize General Relativity,
but I didn't realize that Congress was stupid enough to
waste that much money on a non-cost-effective model
promoted by self-serving charlatans and their dupes.

June 21: Congressional Testimony Addresses Economic Significance of GPS
http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html
Economic Value
The economic value of GPS is difficult to quantify because it is so
pervasive and integrated into the fabric of the economy. Counting the
total number of GPS users in the world is a challenge, because the
technology is often embedded in other products, such as cell phones,
and consumers do not even know they are using it. According to one
private sector firm, global sales of GPS user equipment currently
exceed $20 billion a year and will continue growing at a healthy rate
for the foreseeable future (1).
Equipment sales represent only the tip of the economic iceberg. As
with personal computers, the true value of GPS is not in the cost of
the equipment, but in the productivity and growth it enables. U.S.
industry has created new services and enhanced existing products by
accessing GPS capabilities. The Department of Commerce has been
working closely with the Department of Transportation to quantify the
economic benefits of GPS in terms of the productivity gains enjoyed
by civilian users, not just equipment sales. Within the next month,
we will be publishing an article in the trade press describing some
of our results. The article focuses on the quantifiable economic
benefits of the next-generation GPS satellites, which began launching
last year. One of the first upgrades that next-generation GPS
delivers is a second civilian GPS signal, known as "L2C," which was
specifically designed to enhance the commercial utility of GPS. Under
the most likely scenario, we estimate L2C could enable over $5
billion in economic productivity benefits over the next 30 years.
See: http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html

tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:

It is interesting to see that Sam Wormley
states that General Relativity is a $30B+ industry.

I knew that billions of the taxpayers, hard-earned dollars
went into trying to rationalize General Relativity,
but I didn't realize that Congress was stupid enough to
waste that much money on a non-cost-effective model
promoted by self-serving charlatans and their dupes.

June 21: Congressional Testimony Addresses Economic Significance of GPS
http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html

Economic Value

The economic value of GPS is difficult to quantify because it is so
pervasive and integrated into the fabric of the economy. Counting the
total number of GPS users in the world is a challenge, because the
technology is often embedded in other products, such as cell phones,
and consumers do not even know they are using it. According to one
private sector firm, global sales of GPS user equipment currently
exceed $20 billion a year and will continue growing at a healthy rate
for the foreseeable future (1).

Equipment sales represent only the tip of the economic iceberg. As
with personal computers, the true value of GPS is not in the cost of
the equipment, but in the productivity and growth it enables. U.S.
industry has created new services and enhanced existing products by
accessing GPS capabilities. The Department of Commerce has been
working closely with the Department of Transportation to quantify the
economic benefits of GPS in terms of the productivity gains enjoyed
by civilian users, not just equipment sales. Within the next month,
we will be publishing an article in the trade press describing some
of our results. The article focuses on the quantifiable economic
benefits of the next-generation GPS satellites, which began launching
last year. One of the first upgrades that next-generation GPS
delivers is a second civilian GPS signal, known as "L2C," which was
specifically designed to enhance the commercial utility of GPS. Under
the most likely scenario, we estimate L2C could enable over $5
billion in economic productivity benefits over the next 30 years.

See: http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html

tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:

It is interesting to see that Sam Wormley
states that General Relativity is a $30B+ industry.

I knew that billions of the taxpayers, hard-earned dollars
went into trying to rationalize General Relativity,
but I didn't realize that Congress was stupid enough to
waste that much money on a non-cost-effective model
promoted by self-serving charlatans and their dupes.

June 21: Congressional Testimony Addresses Economic Significance of GPS
http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html

Economic Value

The economic value of GPS is difficult to quantify because it is so
pervasive and integrated into the fabric of the economy. Counting the
total number of GPS users in the world is a challenge, because the
technology is often embedded in other products, such as cell phones,
and consumers do not even know they are using it. According to one
private sector firm, global sales of GPS user equipment currently
exceed $20 billion a year and will continue growing at a healthy rate
for the foreseeable future (1).

Equipment sales represent only the tip of the economic iceberg. As
with personal computers, the true value of GPS is not in the cost of
the equipment, but in the productivity and growth it enables. U.S.
industry has created new services and enhanced existing products by
accessing GPS capabilities. The Department of Commerce has been
working closely with the Department of Transportation to quantify the
economic benefits of GPS in terms of the productivity gains enjoyed
by civilian users, not just equipment sales. Within the next month,
we will be publishing an article in the trade press describing some
of our results. The article focuses on the quantifiable economic
benefits of the next-generation GPS satellites, which began launching
last year. One of the first upgrades that next-generation GPS
delivers is a second civilian GPS signal, known as "L2C," which was
specifically designed to enhance the commercial utility of GPS. Under
the most likely scenario, we estimate L2C could enable over $5
billion in economic productivity benefits over the next 30 years.

See: http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/space/library/speeches/2006-06-spacepowerhearing.html

tdp1001@gmail.com wrote:
[...]

Do you have that written down in a text file, or do you write it from
scratch every time?

In sci.physics,

Sam Wormley wrote:

[snip for brevity]

A $30B+ industry, applying relativity to create a global
infrastructure benefiting people all over the world got
your goat, eh Potter (Willy Lowman).

It is interesting to see that Sam Wormley
states that General Relativity is a $30B+ industry.

I knew that billions of the taxpayers, hard-earned dollars
went into trying to rationalize General Relativity,
but I didn't realize that Congress was stupid enough to
waste that much money on a non-cost-effective model
promoted by self-serving charlatans and their dupes.

As I pointed out,
after Newton's model,
there were immediate and rapid advances
in mechanics, astronomy, etc.

After the Faraday/Maxwell model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in chemistry, electricity, etc.

After the Watson/Crick DNA model
there were immediate and rapid advances
in medicine, genetics, animal husbandry,
the history of the Earth and Mankind, etc.

Here we are, 100 years after General Relativity
and it continues to generate more hype and heat
than light and advances, and waste time, money and minds on such
pursuits as time travel, worm holes, space warps, gravity waves, etc.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

It is interesting to see that Tom Potter doesn't quite
get it. For starters, SPEAR created the tau lepton using
electrons and positrons. The tau lepton is far too heavy
to explain without invoking either superluminal electrons,
or relativity. Most accelerators pour more energy into
their particles than is required to accelerate them to
Newtonian lightspeed.

Laser gyroscopes are based on the Sagnac effect, an effect
that cannot even work in an absolute-time-compatible
framework.

GPS is routinely used, but the construction thereof
required the satellite clocks to be compensated for
relativistic effects; otherwise the error will be almost
11 km at certain points of the day.

Even the astrologers have to account for relativity, though
probably not by a lot; the discrepancy is approximately 43
arc-seconds per century. Over 10,000 years that translates
into almost 12 degrees.

Whether $30B can be directly attributable to SR, GR, or both,
or not, I for one cannot say. Laser gyroscopes, though, are
good evidence. :-)