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"UNITED 93" -- Fraud, Fiction and Far From Factual |
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I see that "United 93 - the movie - will make its big screen
debut Friday,
then be featured on Larry King Live Friday night, so let me say THIS
about
THAT:
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The movie is billed as an honest, fact-based account of the events
aboard hijacked
Boeing 757 jet Flight 93 on 9/11/01..
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The truth is, it's sheer fiction.
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The "Rally 'Round the Flag" incident never happened.
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Flight 93 didn't "crash" near Shanksville, Pa. It was shot to
smithereens by
a white U.S. military jet, with debris being spread five to eight miles
distance.
That's what Russian radio and TV told their listeners the day of 911,
citing
their information from one of their satellites
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And the 40 passengers -- most fictional -- and crew didn't perish
when it
was struck by a missile simply because there was no one aboard. It was
a drone, poiloted by remote control from from the ground.
What happened to the folks who allegedly "died" in the crash is the
real mystery.
Hell, they might still be alive -- bunkered away somewhere -- or they
may be
at the bottom of the Atlantic.
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The "Flight 93" fiasco was a ploy to add to the propoganda the Bush
administration
dished out in heaping doses about 911, blaming 19 terrorists (a
half-dozen still alive)
and Osama bin Laden.
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The government sure made it seem believeable - the
now-you-see-them-now-you-don't
jets that kamikazied the Twin Towers, the orchestrated demolition of
both buildings, the Pentagon fiasco and all the cell phone calls,
especially by Barbara Olson and Mark Bingham (to mention just two of
those supposedly dozen or more cell phone calls from Flight 93).
Bingham's sister took a cell phone call from her brother and
excitedly told him that his mother was right near the phone and
anxiously wanted to speak to him.
When Mom excitedly took the phone and said, "Hello, Mark!" he
responded matter-of-factly: "Hello, this is Mark BINGHAM."
Even his mother agreed it was rather strange, and in all likelihood it
was a fradulent tape
recording. Same for the "voice" of a few other callers aboard, some of
which were hardly audible
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The problem, back on Sept, 11, 2001, is that it was relatively
impossible to make
a telephone call using a cell phone. They couldn't transmit clearly
- if at all --
from a plane high in the sky traveling at more than 500 mph.
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"United 93" writer/director Paul Greenglass is quoted as saying, as he
got deeper into the making of the fictional movie, that he began to
feel "haunted by the film's central struggle between a band of
suicidal religious fantatics and a group of everyday people thrown
together by circumstance. That struggle at the controls of the airplane
is really a struggle for our world today."
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What utter crap!
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Later Greengrass adds:
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"We're only at the beginning of our understanding of the events of
911. But I think we've got to make sense of it. Everything for the
last five years steams from it.
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"Whether you agree or disagree with the war in Iraq, or whehther
you're worrried about he erosion of civil libertieis or you're not,
it all goes back to that morning," he continued.
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"To me, the job of this film is to take us back to that morning and
create a responsible mature reasonable narrative of what happened on
that day to see what it tells us about
where we are today."
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While making "United 93." Greenglass relied mainly on cell phone
calls from passengers
and crew. He felt, by doing so, he would be able to create a
minute-by-minute breakdown
of events aboard Flight 93.
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Alas, "United 93" isn't an attempt at remembering history the way
it happened. It's
a sad-sack movie that insults the intelligence of everyone who knows
who was
responsible - certainly NOT terrorists -- and why 911 occurred: to
open wide
the floodgates for the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and the
inky-black but
pure gold oil that they felt assured would be the grand prize.
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http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=3451.
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http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/RedBandanas.htm
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http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/flighttheimpro169124.html
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Ed Conrad
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95. Journal (Albuquerque) 109,693
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100. Times (Washington, DC) 102,255
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26 Apr 2006 01:35:19 PM |
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What the hell are you smoking ?
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26 Apr 2006 05:06:03 PM |
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"FED UP" <endtraveler@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1146076519.146535.223210@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
What the hell are you smoking ?
It would be more appropriate to ask why the fascists behind 9/11 denied that
the ground zero smoke was toxic, and thus condemned to suffering and death
hundreds of brave rescue and cleanup workers that foolishly believed these
mass-murderers' lies.
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03 May 2006 04:42:51 AM |
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FED UP wrote:
What the hell are you smoking ?
This is actually fairly lucid coming from Ed Conrad!
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26 Apr 2006 02:03:36 PM |
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someday, the world will know what really happened, why the hole in the
pentagon supposedly from the plane, doesnt match the size of the plane,
or that the steel in the wtc buildings didnt get hot enough to melt
from the jet fuel alone.cleverly planned, and beautifully undertaken,
our governments best smokescreen in years all for a personal vendetta
that couldnt be fulfilled by george bush sr.
rather ingenious blaming terrorists in afghanistan,and taking a little
detour to iraq on the way home.
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| User: "ThongSmoker" |
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26 Apr 2006 09:15:04 PM |
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"deadstatue" <jlatona@budweiser.com> wrote in message
news:1146078216.412358.260860@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
someday, the world will know what really happened, why the hole in the
pentagon supposedly from the plane, doesnt match the size of the plane,
or that the steel in the wtc buildings didnt get hot enough to melt
from the jet fuel alone.cleverly planned, and beautifully undertaken,
our governments best smokescreen in years all for a personal vendetta
that couldnt be fulfilled by george bush sr.
rather ingenious blaming terrorists in afghanistan,and taking a little
detour to iraq on the way home.
the steel didnt have to melt, it only had to soften up and become weaker.
The temperature of the jet fuel accomplished this.
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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| Title: Re: "UNITED 93" -- Fraud, Fiction, Far From the CLINTON LIES which precipitated it. |
26 Apr 2006 10:09:47 PM |
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In article"ThongSmoker" wrote:
the steel didnt have to melt, it only had to soften up and become weaker.
The temperature of the jet fuel accomplished this.
The Clinton lies did not need to congeal, it had only to accumulate to makes us weaker.
The willingness and active participation of LIBs accomplished this.
The world is the way it is NOT because we ignored the counsel of Lying Liberals,
of more Indictment and Therapy for our Adversaries while actively sponsoring them;
it is the way it is because we did NOT ignore them.
This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115851.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115860.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115862.jpg
HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you!
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41489
Report revealed al-Qaida plans in '98
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1462140/posts
Clinton Lawyers: Mohamed Atta Off-Limits
A year before the 9/11 attacks, Clinton administration lawyers told a group
of military intelligence officers that information they had developed on 9/11
ringleader Mohamed Atta could not be shared with the FBI, saying of Atta himself:
"You can't even touch him - it doesn't matter what information you have."
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| User: "Roy L. Fuchs" |
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03 May 2006 05:13:30 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:09:47 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) Gave us:
HELLWORLD stands for
You're an idiot.
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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03 May 2006 08:21:29 AM |
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Hillary ANGER now!
Weilding the Treasure Map of Cruelty,
she has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115866.jpg
Doesn't a failed Olympiad DESERVE to be President?
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
Where failure is worn as a badge of honor.
Where the Guilty are Rewarded,
Where the Innocent are Punished,
Where the Mediocre, the Unworthy, the Depraved
are Championed on the basis of their Depravity.
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| User: "" |
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04 May 2006 04:36:36 AM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Hillary ANGER now!
Weilding the Treasure Map of Cruelty,
she has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115866.jpg
Doesn't a failed Olympiad DESERVE to be President?
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
Well, that seems to have worked for GW Bush!
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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04 May 2006 10:02:55 PM |
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In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Hillary ANGER now!
Weilding the Treasure Map of Cruelty,
she has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115866.jpg
Doesn't a failed Olympiad DESERVE to be President?
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
Well, that seems to have worked for GW Bush!
LIB's blame BOOOSH for their own Poor Marksmanship,
and precisely WHY is it that they keep missing the target? Hmm....
Who else but a LIB would Trust our Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but NOT your own child with a can of soda at school?
This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060503/ap_on_re_us/soft_drinks_schools
NEW YORK - The nation's largest beverage distributors have agreed to halt
nearly all sales of sodas to public schools — a step that will remove the sugary,
caloric drinks from vending machines and cafeterias around the country.
The agreement was announced Wednesday by the William J. Clinton Foundation
and will also likely apply to many private and parochial schools.
And what is World President Bill Clinton's NEXT most likely and 'urgent' target?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/dietfitness.html?in_article_id=385065&in_page_id=1798
Roast veggies 'as bad for teeth as fizzy drinks'
'It bothers me to see people Die...'
-- Clinton.
LIBs proudly do unto our own people
PRECISELY what they for bid us to do to our Adversaries,
PRECISELY BECAUSE they do not view 'Ordinary Americans' as people.
'We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans'
-- Clinton
'I don’t think anyone should underestimate the influence this agreement will have'
-- Clinton.
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060503/480/fc86ffc61c2c49619a8d2751ad37bc5a
CLINTON:: Keeping his eye on the things that matter the MOST !!!
Where WOULD we be without his Bridge to the 21st Century.
The Bridge which is NO BRIDGE because it span no river.
The Legacy which is NO LEGACY because it embody no legitimacy.
The World Safe For Socialism in his image which is NO WORLD
because no one's rights are secure.
I remember Judas, that was Bill Clinton,
before he became president, disgraced his office and betrayed us ALL.
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05 May 2006 08:35:15 AM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Hillary ANGER now!
Weilding the Treasure Map of Cruelty,
she has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/115866.jpg
Doesn't a failed Olympiad DESERVE to be President?
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
Well, that seems to have worked for GW Bush!
LIB's blame BOOOSH for their own Poor Marksmanship,
and precisely WHY is it that they keep missing the target? Hmm....
Who else but a LIB would Trust our Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but NOT your own child with a can of soda at school?
Actually, I'm talking about GW's abilities as a businessman. Every
business he's gotten into he's managed to run into the ground and then
walk away.
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In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
Well, that seems to have worked for GW Bush!
LIB's blame BOOOSH for their own Poor Marksmanship,
and precisely WHY is it that they keep missing the target? Hmm....
Who else but a LIB would Trust our Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but NOT your own child with a can of soda at school?
Actually, I'm talking about GW's abilities as a businessman. Every
business he's gotten into he's managed to run into the ground and then
walk away.
If you want to consider that,
consider the intellectual dishonesty and the BOLD FACE LIE
that Hillary had aspirations to be an Astronaut...
And such from a potential presidential candidate?
Is that not as bad a Our Hero JOHN KERRY dismissing the threat of the
Soviet Union as 'bogus' while quivering at the thought of Global Warming?
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
The other day, when Hillary's claim that she wrote to NASA and was told
in a responding letter that the space agency "didn't take girls" struck us as
implausible and poorly calculated because obviously checkable, our interest
waned at the prospect of foiling the correspondence.
HILLARY. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
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06 May 2006 05:03:26 AM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
In article edrhodes wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
http://www.capetimes.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=272&fArticleId=3228007
Being a failure at everything left only politics for Hillary Clinton
Well, that seems to have worked for GW Bush!
LIB's blame BOOOSH for their own Poor Marksmanship,
and precisely WHY is it that they keep missing the target? Hmm....
Who else but a LIB would Trust our Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but NOT your own child with a can of soda at school?
Actually, I'm talking about GW's abilities as a businessman. Every
business he's gotten into he's managed to run into the ground and then
walk away.
If you want to consider that,
consider the intellectual dishonesty and the BOLD FACE LIE
that Hillary had aspirations to be an Astronaut...
And such from a potential presidential candidate?
Is that not as bad a Our Hero JOHN KERRY dismissing the threat of the
Soviet Union as 'bogus' while quivering at the thought of Global Warming?
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
The other day, when Hillary's claim that she wrote to NASA and was told
in a responding letter that the space agency "didn't take girls" struck us as
implausible and poorly calculated because obviously checkable, our interest
waned at the prospect of foiling the correspondence.
So check it. A true simple fact is there were several women in the
Mercury program. Each of them out performed the seven men chosen for
the program. Each of them was dismissed because the American public
wouldn't accept endangering women by sending them into space. (I
discovered this when they sent Glenn on the Shuttle as an astronaut. I
thought they should have given one of the women a chance.)
GW's record as a businessman has certainly been checked and found
wanting. (His record as a Commander In Chief is speaking volumes for
itself.)
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snip.
So check it. A true simple fact is there were several women in the
Mercury program. Each of them out performed the seven men chosen for
the program. Each of them was dismissed because the American public
wouldn't accept endangering women by sending them into space. (I
discovered this when they sent Glenn on the Shuttle as an astronaut. I
thought they should have given one of the women a chance.)
The selection of the original astronauts was made amongst military test
pilots.
At that time there were NO women flying at that level.
Bragging rights: My girlfriend got her CPL in 1963..
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06 May 2006 05:48:47 PM |
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In article "george" wrote:
edrhodes wrote:
...
So check it. A true simple fact is there were several women in the
Mercury program. Each of them out performed the seven men chosen for
the program. Each of them was dismissed because the American public
wouldn't accept endangering women by sending them into space. (I
discovered this when they sent Glenn on the Shuttle as an astronaut. I
thought they should have given one of the women a chance.)
The selection of the original astronauts was made amongst military test
pilots.
At that time there were NO women flying at that level.
Bragging rights: My girlfriend got her CPL in 1963..
The fact is: Hillary never wanted to be an Astronaut and only mentions
it because she believes it will help her demongraphics.
Yet another bold faced CLINTON LIE
to accede to the unearned, to seize the undeserved.
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/hillary_eats_her_words.jpg
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb381083.htm
Hillary Clinton Told an Olympic-Sized Lie, Says Quote Book Editor
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
That means Hillary has to have written that letter when she was in
high school or college, when other reports tell us she pretty well
knew what she was going to do with herself. And she wasn't planning
a career as an astronaut.
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06 May 2006 08:40:17 PM |
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:48:47 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article "george" wrote:
edrhodes wrote:
..
So check it. A true simple fact is there were several women in the
Mercury program. Each of them out performed the seven men chosen for
the program. Each of them was dismissed because the American public
wouldn't accept endangering women by sending them into space. (I
discovered this when they sent Glenn on the Shuttle as an astronaut. I
thought they should have given one of the women a chance.)
The selection of the original astronauts was made amongst military test
pilots.
At that time there were NO women flying at that level.
Bragging rights: My girlfriend got her CPL in 1963..
The fact is: Hillary never wanted to be an Astronaut and only mentions
it because she believes it will help her demongraphics.
Gosh, you never mentioned you knew her when she was a little girl.
What were you? Her clarinet?
Yet another bold faced CLINTON LIE
to accede to the unearned, to seize the undeserved.
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/hillary_eats_her_words.jpg
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb381083.htm
Hillary Clinton Told an Olympic-Sized Lie, Says Quote Book Editor
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
That means Hillary has to have written that letter when she was in
high school or college, when other reports tell us she pretty well
knew what she was going to do with herself. And she wasn't planning
a career as an astronaut.
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07 May 2006 09:41:51 AM |
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In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is: Hillary never wanted to be an Astronaut and only mentions
it because she believes it will help her demongraphics.
Gosh, you never mentioned you knew her when she was a little girl.
What were you? Her clarinet?
Yet another bold faced CLINTON LIE
to accede to the unearned, to seize the undeserved.
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/hillary_eats_her_words.jpg
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb381083.htm
Hillary Clinton Told an Olympic-Sized Lie, Says Quote Book Editor
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
That means Hillary has to have written that letter when she was in
high school or college, when other reports tell us she pretty well
knew what she was going to do with herself. And she wasn't planning
a career as an astronaut.
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
The fact is Hillary will stop at nothing to be president,
even if it means knocking off her running mate,
even if it means knocking off Bill.
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why Settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/114328.jpg
If Elephant dung is Art, why not this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/459846.stm
Hillary steps into dung art row
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LIB's plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as it's standard of Value,
making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of Values
which one is willing to Betray.
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07 May 2006 10:05:33 AM |
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 14:41:51 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is: Hillary never wanted to be an Astronaut and only mentions
it because she believes it will help her demongraphics.
Gosh, you never mentioned you knew her when she was a little girl.
What were you? Her clarinet?
Yet another bold faced CLINTON LIE
to accede to the unearned, to seize the undeserved.
http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/hillary_eats_her_words.jpg
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb381083.htm
Hillary Clinton Told an Olympic-Sized Lie, Says Quote Book Editor
http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/05/hillarys-girlhood.html
That means Hillary has to have written that letter when she was in
high school or college, when other reports tell us she pretty well
knew what she was going to do with herself. And she wasn't planning
a career as an astronaut.
I take it you abandoned all your dreams at the age of 8. That would
explain the sort of person you are today.
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
Next time I see a dead Chinese miner, I'll be sure to thank him.
The fact is Hillary will stop at nothing to be president,
even if it means knocking off her running mate,
even if it means knocking off Bill.
Not even dead Chinese miners?
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why Settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/114328.jpg
You're seriously nuts, aren't you?
If Elephant dung is Art, why not this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/459846.stm
Hillary steps into dung art row
---
LIB's plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as it's standard of Value,
making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of Values
which one is willing to Betray.
--
"The FDA says there's no -- zilch, zero, nada -- shred of medicinal value to the evil weed marijuana. This is going to be a setback to the long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking crowd."
-- Rush Limbaugh on his radio show, April 21, 2006, one week before he officially became a drug felon himself.
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07 May 2006 10:24:30 AM |
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In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
Next time I see a dead Chinese miner, I'll be sure to thank him.
Next time you drop off
your kids at school,
thank Clinton for trusting our
Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but not your kid with a can of Soda in school.
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
CLINTON:: Patriarch of Nuclear Terror.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1970747,00.html
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/060104211350.ll54g5t0.html
The operation, which took place during the Clinton administration in early 2000,
...may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml
Clinton Scheme Gave Iran Nuke Blueprints
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07 May 2006 11:22:45 AM |
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 15:24:30 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
Next time I see a dead Chinese miner, I'll be sure to thank him.
Next time you drop off
your kids at school,
thank Clinton for trusting our
Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but not your kid with a can of Soda in school.
Clinton gave Russian, China and Israel nuclear bombs?
I had no idea.
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
My, yes. You ARE nuts.
CLINTON:: Patriarch of Nuclear Terror.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1970747,00.html
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/060104211350.ll54g5t0.html
The operation, which took place during the Clinton administration in early 2000,
...may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml
Clinton Scheme Gave Iran Nuke Blueprints
--
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07 May 2006 10:57:58 PM |
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In article zepp wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
Next time I see a dead Chinese miner, I'll be sure to thank him.
Next time you drop off
your kids at school,
thank Clinton for trusting our
Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but not your kid with a can of Soda in school.
Clinton gave Russian, China and Israel nuclear bombs?
LIB denial, and reading comprehension notwithstanding,
Bill Clinton personally authorized the go ahead
to deliver nuclear blueprints to Iran.
LIBs could not be more pleased.
CLINTON:: Patriarch of Nuclear Terror.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1970747,00.html
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/060104211350.ll54g5t0.html
The operation, which took place during the Clinton administration in early 2000,
...may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml
Clinton Scheme Gave Iran Nuke Blueprints
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07 May 2006 11:44:15 PM |
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On Mon, 08 May 2006 03:57:58 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article zepp wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article 2418 Dead wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
The fact is more people have died last year mining Coal in China, 4951,
than those who have defending our Freedom so LIBs like you
can indulge acts of Moral Vandalism and Depravity.
Next time I see a dead Chinese miner, I'll be sure to thank him.
Next time you drop off
your kids at school,
thank Clinton for trusting our
Adversaries with Nuclear Weapons
but not your kid with a can of Soda in school.
Clinton gave Russian, China and Israel nuclear bombs?
LIB denial, and reading comprehension notwithstanding,
Bill Clinton personally authorized the go ahead
to deliver nuclear blueprints to Iran.
LIBs could not be more pleased.
CLINTON:: Patriarch of Nuclear Terror.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
Let's see:
The CIA officer had made a disastrous mistake. She had sent
information to one Iranian agent that exposed an entire spy network;
the data could be used to identify virtually every spy the CIA had
inside Iran.
Mistake piled on mistake. As the CIA later learned, the Iranian who
received the download was a double agent. The agent quickly turned the
data over to Iranian security officials, and it enabled them to "roll
up" the CIA's network throughout Iran. CIA sources say that several of
the Iranian agents were arrested and jailed, while the fates of some
of the others is still unknown.
This espionage disaster, of course, was not reported. It left the CIA
virtually blind in Iran, unable to provide any significant
intelligence on one of the most critical issues facing the US -
whether Tehran was about to go nuclear.
Nope. No mention in that article of Clinton "personally authorizing
the go ahead". You're flat out lying there.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1970747,00.html
That one, at least, mentions that the CIA may have hatched this little
misadventure. It says, "US blunder gave Iran nuclear clue
Washington: The CIA may have handed a blueprint for a nuclear bomb to
Iran via a Russian double agent, it is claimed in a book that has
ruffled US national security. State of War by James Risen, the New
York Times reporter who exposed the Bush Administration’s domestic
spying operation, states that the plans contained fatal flaws designed
to derail Tehran’s nuclear drive.
Incidently, neither of these are newsstories, but reviews of a book
some right winger has written. You forgot to mention that, Toot toot.
http://www.spacewar.com/2006/060104211350.ll54g5t0.html
Same article.
The operation, which took place during the Clinton administration in early 2000,
...may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history...
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml
Clinton Scheme Gave Iran Nuke Blueprints
Don't waste my time. Newmax is a demented joke.
--
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In article zepp22112420 wrote:
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Mistake piled on mistake. ...
Absolutely TRUE.
But let us limit our rememberance of
Clinton to four things that he factually did do:
1. Grant Clemency to convicted Terrorists who Murdered American Citizens.
2. Vandalize the White House.
3. Dare us to Stop him.
4. Send Nuclear Blueprints to our Adversaries.
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
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In article <8tU7g.294$x4.72@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
ExPresident@au.revoir.gov says...
In article zepp22112420 wrote:
...
Mistake piled on mistake. ...
Absolutely TRUE.
But let us limit our rememberance of
Clinton to four things that he factually did do:
1. Grant Clemency to convicted Terrorists who Murdered American Citizens.
Yawn. Clemency happens all the time.
2. Vandalize the White House.
LOL, you actually think HE did it?
Most of the "vandalism" has been shown to be some misinformation, and
the normal wear and tear on office furniture. I work at a small company,
and we have a whole room full of broken furniture and keyboards, etc.
So does everyplace else I ever worked at. And the insanely inflated
price sof keyboards in those stories doesn't help prove they aren't just
political sniping BS stuff.
3. Dare us to Stop him.
He said this when? Where?
4. Send Nuclear Blueprints to our Adversaries.
You really think they needed blueprints for nukes?
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
Better Hillary than nearly all the repub candidates. Not that I like her
much either...
BDK
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09 May 2006 08:37:32 AM |
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On Tue, 09 May 2006 04:00:04 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article zepp22112420 wrote:
...
Mistake piled on mistake. ...
Absolutely TRUE.
But let us limit our rememberance of
Clinton to four things that he factually did do:
1. Grant Clemency to convicted Terrorists who Murdered American Citizens.
Never happened.
2. Vandalize the White House.
Never happened.
3. Dare us to Stop him.
Huh?
4. Send Nuclear Blueprints to our Adversaries.
CIA fuckup. Oh, BTW, how do you feel about George's buddy, Pakistan,
giving nuclear technology to Iran, Libya, and North Korea?
Hillary. HAMAS. HEZBOLLAH.
Why settle for the Lesser Evil? HELLWORLD stands for Hillary.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
--
"The FDA says there's no -- zilch, zero, nada -- shred of medicinal value to the evil weed marijuana. This is going to be a setback to the long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking crowd."
-- Rush Limbaugh on his radio show, April 21, 2006, one week before he officially became a drug felon himself.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| Title: Re: "UNITED 93" --CLINTON IMPOSSIBLE. Hillary the Wrathful, HILLARY THE Vengeful, HILLARY THE PERNICIOUS. |
09 May 2006 09:00:25 AM |
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1. Clinton granted clemency to Convicted Terrorists who murdered America Citizens.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/final_faln_rpt2.htm
The 12 FALN members all were indicted and convicted of the seditious conspiracy
alleged in Count 1 of their indictments. That meant that a jury found that they
participated in a conspiracy, the result of which was the placement and detonation
of 28 bombs at specific locations. All 12 were convicted of this count.
...
In discussing the grant of clemency to the FALN and Macheteros members, the
White House made an effort to portray those who were offered clemency as
non-violent offenders. The mantra repeated by the White House was that the
individuals offered clemency were not convicted of bombings that directly caused
the death of any person. This suggested that they were unfairly categorized as
violent through guilt by association. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. The individuals granted
clemency were violent people committed to the use of violence to win independence for Puerto Rico.
...
The Sentences Imposed Upon the FALN and Macheteros Prisoners Were Fair.
The President and his spokesmen represented that the sixteen offered clemency
had served sentences in excess of what they would now receive under the
sentencing guidelines. THIS IS NOT TRUE. According to the United States Sentencing
Commission, which analyzed this matter specifically, "the federal sentencing guidelines
generally would call for sentences AS LONG OR LONGER THAN THOSE ACTUALLY IMPOSED
2. Clinton Vandalized the White House.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf
P6.
Damage, theft, vandalism, and pranks did occur in the White House
complex during the 2001 presidential transition.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf
p48.
$4850 to replace 30-64 keyboards.
Comments by Clinton Administation staff
"One fomer Clinton Administration official said that he found
reports of keyboards missing 'W' keys to be believable but
regrettable and indefensible..."
p61.
$6020 to replace missing telephone labels and reroute forwarded phones
...
114 hours of phone repair on Jan 20 and 78.5 hours for work on Jan21.
3. Clinton Dared us to stop him.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/archives/whitehouse-papers/1993/Oct/Presidents-Somalia-Message-to-Congress-1993-10-13
to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other
potential adversaries around the world that they can change our
policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans.
-- Bill Clinton'93, just before he pulled out of Somalia
4. Clinton delivered Nuclear Blueprints to our Adversaries.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
The story dates back to the Clinton administration and February 2000,
when one frightened Russian scientist walked Vienna's winter streets.
The Russian had good reason to be afraid. He was walking around Vienna
with blueprints for a nuclear bomb.
LIB denial is an essential componant of their syndrome,
the people they follow are not just mistaken, but EVIL,
seeking the demise of America to the chorus of chants
of Death to America -- as if such consequence be inconsequential.
Moral Values are the motive power of a man's actions.
A world of moral ambiguity necessitates as progressive
sympathy towards vice and a progressive antagonism towards Virtue.
Moral Bankrupcy is the mechanism Evil employs to delude
you into believe in the incomprehensible and unachievable,
which benefits only shamelessly desperate and Deliberately Evil.
Moral Guilt, fear of moral judgement, and the naked appeal for
blanket forgiveness are the motives of those who confess to
seeing and wanting to live in a world of moral ambiguity,
dominated not-only by a ceaseless quest for the unearned
but also an obsessive-terror of avoiding Evil, at any cost,
for fear of being in its service -- and that for good reason.
Are you a Hillraiser yet?
HELLWORLD stands for HILLARY.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.israpundit.com/archives/2005/10/staying_morally.php
Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked by a shark.
He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a pretty hopeless task.
Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible moment, and while he was standing,
all wet, on deck and the disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the
air, one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response was,
"You don't cut fish with a knife."
...
Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal during a
presidential campaign. They would gladly sacrifice the country if only they could
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rule over its ruins. Which makes it even worse is the obvious futility of their efforts.
^^^^^^^^^^^
The powerful Clinton clique will never let a Democrat win the elections this year,
because such a victory will destroy Hillary's presidential ambitions. And in 2009,
when Hillary moves into the White House, the immorality of the United States will
need a different scale for measurement, a scale which will leave sharks barely
visible even with a powerful microscope.
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| User: "Vandar" |
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| Title: Re: "UNITED 93" --CLINTON IMPOSSIBLE. Hillary the Wrathful, HILLARYTHE Vengeful, HILLARY THE PERNICIOUS. |
09 May 2006 01:37:37 PM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
1. Clinton granted clemency to Convicted Terrorists who murdered America Citizens.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/final_faln_rpt2.htm
The 12 FALN members all were indicted and convicted of the seditious conspiracy
alleged in Count 1 of their indictments. That meant that a jury found that they
participated in a conspiracy, the result of which was the placement and detonation
of 28 bombs at specific locations. All 12 were convicted of this count.
How many American citizens were murdered?
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| User: "2420 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: "UNITED 93" --CLINTON IMPOSSIBLE. Hillary the Wrathful, HILLARY THE Vengeful, HILLARY THE PERNICIOUS. |
09 May 2006 10:05:13 AM |
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On Tue, 09 May 2006 14:00:25 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
1. Clinton granted clemency to Convicted Terrorists who murdered America Citizens.
Oh, right. I forgot about that. 1953, wasn't it? I remember there
was grave doubt that the members were actually involved in any of
that.
So they served 45 years for a crime they probably never even
committed, and thier time done, were granted clemancy.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/final_faln_rpt2.htm
The 12 FALN members all were indicted and convicted of the seditious conspiracy
alleged in Count 1 of their indictments. That meant that a jury found that they
participated in a conspiracy, the result of which was the placement and detonation
of 28 bombs at specific locations. All 12 were convicted of this count.
..
In discussing the grant of clemency to the FALN and Macheteros members, the
White House made an effort to portray those who were offered clemency as
non-violent offenders. The mantra repeated by the White House was that the
individuals offered clemency were not convicted of bombings that directly caused
the death of any person. This suggested that they were unfairly categorized as
violent through guilt by association. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. The individuals granted
clemency were violent people committed to the use of violence to win independence for Puerto Rico.
..
The Sentences Imposed Upon the FALN and Macheteros Prisoners Were Fair.
The President and his spokesmen represented that the sixteen offered clemency
had served sentences in excess of what they would now receive under the
sentencing guidelines. THIS IS NOT TRUE. According to the United States Sentencing
Commission, which analyzed this matter specifically, "the federal sentencing guidelines
generally would call for sentences AS LONG OR LONGER THAN THOSE ACTUALLY IMPOSED
2. Clinton Vandalized the White House.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf
P6.
Damage, theft, vandalism, and pranks did occur in the White House
complex during the 2001 presidential transition.
Not according to the actual GAO, rather than the list of claims made
by House Republicans, and not according to Bush himself, who openly
declared there was "no truth" to any of the allegations. It turns out
that even the story about all the keyboards missing the letter "W" was
false.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf
p48.
$4850 to replace 30-64 keyboards.
Comments by Clinton Administation staff
"One fomer Clinton Administration official said that he found
reports of keyboards missing 'W' keys to be believable but
regrettable and indefensible..."
p61.
$6020 to replace missing telephone labels and reroute forwarded phones
...
114 hours of phone repair on Jan 20 and 78.5 hours for work on Jan21.
3. Clinton Dared us to stop him.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/archives/whitehouse-papers/1993/Oct/Presidents-Somalia-Message-to-Congress-1993-10-13
to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other
potential adversaries around the world that they can change our
policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans.
-- Bill Clinton'93, just before he pulled out of Somalia
Not Found
The requested URL
//www.ibiblio.org/pub/archives/whitehouse-papers/1993/Oct/Presidents-Somalia-Message-to-Congress-1993-10-13
was not found on this server.
4. Clinton delivered Nuclear Blueprints to our Adversaries.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
The story dates back to the Clinton administration and February 2000,
when one frightened Russian scientist walked Vienna's winter streets.
The Russian had good reason to be afraid. He was walking around Vienna
with blueprints for a nuclear bomb.
LIB denial is an essential componant of their syndrome,
the people they follow are not just mistaken, but EVIL,
seeking the demise of America to the chorus of chants
of Death to America -- as if such consequence be inconsequential.
Ooooh. Toot toot has decided that liberals follow eeee-vil! Oh, my.
Moral Values are the motive power of a man's actions.
A world of moral ambiguity necessitates as progressive
sympathy towards vice and a progressive antagonism towards Virtue.
Speaking of moral values, care to explain how lying us into war in
Iraq was a moral value?
Moral Bankrupcy is the mechanism Evil employs to delude
you into believe in the incomprehensible and unachievable,
which benefits only shamelessly desperate and Deliberately Evil.
You have a White House that planed a gay prostitute in the press
corps. Your CIA director and the #3 guy just quit because the
lobbyist who has 75 GOP congressmen worrying about indictments had
them over to the Watergate to cavort with some hookers and do a little
gambling. Lotsa morality there, you betcha.
Moral Guilt, fear of moral judgement, and the naked appeal for
blanket forgiveness are the motives of those who confess to
seeing and wanting to live in a world of moral ambiguity,
dominated not-only by a ceaseless quest for the unearned
but also an obsessive-terror of avoiding Evil, at any cost,
for fear of being in its service -- and that for good reason.
Ken Lay just got done presenting himself an an innocent victim of
circumstance who had no idea his company was an ongoing pyramid
scheme. Ken Blackwell insists on overseeing an investigation into
election fraud, including his own election as Ohio Secretary of State.
Thanks to the two oilmen in the White House, Exxon made off with $8
billion over the past three months.
Tell us more about GOP morality. This is getting better by the
moment.
Are you a Hillraiser yet?
HELLWORLD stands for HILLARY.
She has SUCH sights to show you.
http://www.israpundit.com/archives/2005/10/staying_morally.php
Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked by a shark.
He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a pretty hopeless task.
Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible moment, and while he was standing,
all wet, on deck and the disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the
air, one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response was,
"You don't cut fish with a knife."
..
Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal during a
presidential campaign. They would gladly sacrifice the country if only they could
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
rule over its ruins. Which makes it even worse is the obvious futility of their efforts.
^^^^^^^^^^^
The powerful Clinton clique will never let a Democrat win the elections this year,
because such a victory will destroy Hillary's presidential ambitions. And in 2009,
when Hillary moves into the White House, the immorality of the United States will
need a different scale for measurement, a scale which will leave sharks barely
visible even with a powerful microscope.
--
"The FDA says there's no -- zilch, zero, nada -- shred of medicinal value to the evil weed marijuana. This is going to be a setback to the long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking crowd."
-- Rush Limbaugh on his radio show, April 21, 2006, one week before he officially became a drug felon himself.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| Title: Re: "UNITED 93" --CLINTON IMPOSSIBLE. Hillary the Wrathful, HILLARY THE Vengeful, HILLARY THE PERNICIOUS. |
09 May 2006 02:39:52 PM |
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2420 Dead wrote:
On Tue, 09 May 2006 14:00:25 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
1. Clinton granted clemency to Convicted Terrorists who murdered America=
Citizens.
Oh, right. I forgot about that. 1953, wasn't it? I remember there
was grave doubt that the members were actually involved in any of
that.
So they served 45 years for a crime they probably never even
committed, and thier time done, were granted clemancy.
I expect that you are thinking of something else here. According to
the cite provided by Mr. Oboe, the people in question operated in the
late 70's and early 80's. The first bunch of these folks were
convicted in 1981, and the last group in 1989, so clearly they did not
serve a 45 year sentence. As has been noted elsewhere, "none of the 16
who were offered clemency was convicted in any of the bombings. They
were convicted on a variety of charges, ranging from bomb-making and
conspiracy to armed robbery, and given sentences ranging from 35 to 90
years; the activists had served 14 to 19 years in prison."
From Mr. Oboe's article:
"On August 11, 1999, President Clinton offered a grant of clemency to
16 individuals convicted and incarcerated for their activities while
members of clandestine terrorist organizations promoting the
independence of Puerto Rico through violent means. The groups involved
were the Armed Forces of Puerto Rican National Liberation ("FALN" or in
Spanish, Fuerzas Armadas Liberacion Nacional Puertoriquena) and the
Popular Boricua Army (Ejercito Popular Boricua), commonly known as the
Macheteros. Throughout the late 1970's and mid-1980's these groups
claimed responsibility for numerous bombings and robberies, causing a
reign of terror in both the United States and Puerto Rico. The FALN
operated in the continental United States, while the Macheteros were
active mostly in Puerto Rico.
"The 16 individuals granted clemency were arrested and later convicted
in three separate groups. The first group consisted of FALN members
Elizam Escobar, Ricardo JimJ nez, Oscar L\ pez Rivera, Adolfo Matos,
Dylcia Pag< n, Alicia RodrR guez, Ida Luz RodrR guez, Luis Rosa, and
Carmen ValentR n. This group was tried in the Northern District of
Illinois, in Chicago, and was found guilty in February 1981. The second
group of individuals also was FALN members and was tried in the same
district in Chicago in 1985. The three members were Alejandrina Torres,
Edwin CortJ s, and Alberto RodrR guez. The last group of individuals
was connected to the Macheteros and was tried in 1989 in Connecticut:
Juan Enrique Segarra-Palmer, Antonio Camacho Negr\ n, Norman RamR rez
Talavera and Roberto Maldonado Rivera.
"United States law enforcement first learned of the existence of the
FALN on October 26, 1974, the date the group issued a communiqu=E9
taking credit for five bombings in New York. The communiqu=E9 stated:
'Today, commando units of FALN attacked mayor [sic] Yanki [sic]
corporations in New York City . . . These actions, along with bombing
of major department stores, for three consecutive days in late spring,
and the dynamite blasts at Newark Police Headquarters and City Hall,
demonstrate what we have said since 1969: that the Puerto Rican people
organizing and arming in order to form a Peoples Revolutionary Army
which will rid Puerto Rico of yanki [sic] colonialism [sic]. We have
opened two fronts, one in Puerto Rico the other in the United States,
both nourished by the Puerto Rican people and allies within
Northamerica [sic].'
"At the time of the first attacks, law enforcement had no leads on who
was involved with the FALN. Ultimately, over the next decade, FALN
activities resulted in 72 actual bombings, 40 incendiary attacks, 8
attempted bombings and 10 bomb threats, resulting in 5 deaths, 83
injuries, and over $3 million in property damage.
"Similar to the FALN, the existence of the Macheteros became publicly
known when the group sent a communiqu=E9 to the United Press
International in which they claimed credit for the death of a Puerto
Rican police officer on August 24, 1978. The goals of the Macheteros
were complete autonomy and sovereignty for Puerto Rico. In order to
achieve their goals, the Macheteros conducted an armed struggle against
the United States Government, mainly represented through attacks on
military and police, in several cases causing the death of U.S.
servicemen. In a January 1981 attack, Macheteros commandos infiltrated
a Puerto Rican Air National Guard base and blew up 11 planes, causing
approximately $45 million in damages.
"The capture and conviction of the individual members of the FALN and
Macheteros brought an end to the reign of terror in Puerto Rico and the
United States. Although a few random assaults may have occurred, mostly
in Puerto Rico, the continual assaults on New York, Chicago, and law
enforcement and Naval officers in Puerto Rico virtually came to a halt
with the capture of the individuals to whom the President has offered
clemency. Every major law enforcement group has opposed the commutation
of the prison sentences being served by these members of the FALN or
Macheteros."
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/final_faln_rpt2.htm
The 12 FALN members all were indicted and convicted of the seditious=
conspiracy
alleged in Count 1 of their indictments. That meant that a jury foun=
d that they
participated in a conspiracy, the result of which was the placement =
and detonation
of 28 bombs at specific locations. All 12 were convicted of this cou=
nt.
..
In discussing the grant of clemency to the FALN and Macheteros member=
s, the
White House made an effort to portray those who were offered clemency=
as
non-violent offenders. The mantra repeated by the White House was tha=
t the
individuals offered clemency were not convicted of bombings that dire=
ctly caused
the death of any person. This suggested that they were unfairly categ=
orized as
violent through guilt by association. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. The indiv=
iduals granted
clemency were violent people committed to the use of violence to win i=
ndependence for Puerto Rico.
..
The Sentences Imposed Upon the FALN and Macheteros Prisoners Were Fa=
ir.
The President and his spokesmen represented that the sixteen offered=
clemency
had served sentences in excess of what they would now receive under =
the
sentencing guidelines. THIS IS NOT TRUE. According to the United Sta=
tes Sentencing
Commission, which analyzed this matter specifically, "the federal sen=
tencing guidelines
generally would call for sentences AS LONG OR LONGER THAN THOSE ACTUA=
LLY IMPOSED
<snip>
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