Science > Physics > Update to Revealing Fermion Mass re: Neutrino Mass Question
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"Jay R. Yablon" |
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18 Feb 2005 11:40:52 AM |
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Update to Revealing Fermion Mass re: Neutrino Mass Question |
I have just posted an update regarding generating Fermion mass to my post at
http://home.nycap.rr.com/jry/FermionMass.htm.
A number of folks who think my tau mass prediction is too high have pushed
me to take a closer look at the neutrino mass question.
I have spent several days thinking about this, and I believe I can now
derive the electron mass sum (which does work within experimental
uncertainty) independently of anything having to do with the neutrino mass.
In fact, in this formulation, the poor neutrino goes back to having zero
mass.
Please let me know if this new approach makes sense.
Thanks so much to those of you who took the time to offer serious and
thoughtful critique. We do not make progress unless we can critique well
and listen well.
Best,
Jay.
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Jay R. Yablon
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Update to Revealing Fermion Mass re: Neutrino Mass Question |
19 Feb 2005 02:46:49 AM |
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"Jay R. Yablon" wrote:
I have just posted an update regarding generating Fermion mass to my post at
http://home.nycap.rr.com/jry/FermionMass.htm.
A number of folks who think my tau mass prediction is too high have pushed
me to take a closer look at the neutrino mass question.
I have spent several days thinking about this, and I believe I can now
derive the electron mass sum (which does work within experimental
uncertainty) independently of anything having to do with the neutrino mass.
In fact, in this formulation, the poor neutrino goes back to having zero
mass.
Please let me know if this new approach makes sense.
Thanks so much to those of you who took the time to offer serious and
thoughtful critique. We do not make progress unless we can critique well
and listen well.
If an electron neutrino has zero mass in your theory it contradicts
Super-Kamiokande (50 kt water) and Sudbury (1 kt deuterium oxide)
results re neutrino oscillation (including direction/(time of day) and
accelerator neutrino beam experiments) compared to SNUs in 615 tons of
perchloroethylene buried in South Dakota. Electron neutrino mass
should be somewhere between 0.01 and 0.5 eV mass one way or another.
It would be a much more forceful argument if electron neutrinos had
mass.
Given any two irrational numbers 'x' and 'y' it is always possible to
find integers j, k, m, n such that |(j)(x^m) - (k)(y^n)| < epsilon,
where "epsilon" is arbitrarily small. One should not be impressed by
such a relationship since one could find an arbitrarily large number
of relationships as good or better by picking any other irrational
number, like the Napierian base 'e', Euler's constant gamma, the
Golden Ratio, any irrational square root, etc.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Update to Revealing Fermion Mass re: Neutrino Mass Question |
20 Feb 2005 05:05:52 PM |
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Jay Yablon wrote:
In fact, in this [new] formulation, the poor neutrino
goes back to having zero mass.
Neutrinos are observed to oscillate in flavour as
they propagate. The theory showing why this implies
neutrinos must have mass can be found on
the PDG website pdg.lbl.gov on their "reviews"
page. In essence, it shows how a neutrino of
definite flavour produced with definite 3-momentum
must then evolve into a superposition of flavours
as it propagates, but only if the mass eigenstates
of the neutrinos differ, i.e: have different non-zero
masses.
If your theory says that neutrinos have
mass=0, then you must show where/how the theory
on the PDG website is wrong, or you must account
for neutrino flavour oscillation by some other
mechanism.
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