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Date: 04 Apr 2007 07:07:14 PM
Object: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove
As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.
As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll on Venus?
CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.
Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.
The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).
If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.
Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.
I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.
Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
of Venus images.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH
Venus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
-
Brad Guth
.

User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 29 May 2007 08:47:02 AM
At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit too hot to touch
with the Ovglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.
Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.
Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.
Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.
Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,
wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.

As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?

CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.

Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.

The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).

If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.

Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.

I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.

Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html

It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
-BradGuth

.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 23 Jul 2007 06:00:43 PM
Besides Venus having been where all the newish planetology and
geothermal action is still kicking butt, what's this off-world
spacecraft all about? (robotic obtained image or infomercial hoax??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs
As I'd said before about this extremely weird and very artificial
looking item which seems in fact quite old if not ancient looking, but
otherwise at least offering an interesting notion to ponder, and
especially attractive since I believe ETs and variously complex DNA
had utilized our icy proto-moon on behalf of having survived their
interstellar trek. However, the very best of our NASA still does not
have such proven fly-by-rocket expertise (robotic or manned), nor have
we the required rad-hard DNA or any of that totally nonreactive/
(spectrum insensitive) Kodak film that supposedly had such hocus-pocus
***** poor DR(dynamic range) in that somehow it couldn't possibly have
recorded Venus (even though Venus should by rights have been there and
having been a brighter little speck of an item than any similar
optical speck of Earth). Go figure.
Unlike the mainstream status quo that's continually constipated beyond
the point of no return, as for their having to continually ***** those
Yiddish infomercial bricks, whereas my observationology and deductive
interpretations without my having to pass such flatulence of painful
bricks, as based entirely upon the regular laws of physics and the
best available science, is still every bit as good and as painless as
it was 7+ years ago.
Why otherwise is there so much Old Testament flak and their MIB damage-
control gauntlet to deal with?
Is it simply anti-Yiddish to openly think that Carl Sagan was more
right than we'd thought possible?
It seems that faith of one sort or another is what got us into most
cold or hot wars, as well as this never-ending energy and GW fiasco in
the first place, and it's this undertow of faith that's puppeteering
on behalf of sustaining each of their status quo mindsets at all
cost. Therefore, any possible revision of the past, present or future
simply isn't allowed, no matters what. The anti antigravity cultism
is simply another portion of that swarm like mindset that's willing to
kill even their own kind in order to keep those various Old Testament
lids on tight.
Global warming has extensively to do with the lithobraking arrival of
our moon as of roughly 12,000 BP. However, on the behalf of various
lord/wizard/spook/mole/rusemaster (aka official Usenet naysayers),
I'll gladly say the following again and again, with as much honest
love and affection as I can muster in spite of the mainstream gauntlet
of flak that's sustaining their status quo.
Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.
Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was absolutely correct, in that
there's endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other
life within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this
crazy but otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/
nondisclosure rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain
to our terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets
or moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.
Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.
It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.
The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.
Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.
In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.
How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth
.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 09 Sep 2007 03:35:38 PM
ESAs Venus EXPRESS; 500 Earth days of seeing hardly anything being
usenet discussed or even given a good scientific roasting about
Venus. It's as though those MIB Yids as official naysayers are not
only in total control of most all that's usenet, but in total denial
to boot.
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Venus_Express/SEM26GLJC0F_1.html#subhead1
Perfectly good though selective science that's still without sharing
any PFS instrument data. Rather odd there has been no active topic
contributions, as though Venus is somewhat taboo/nondisclosure rated.
Would anyone within this anti-think-tank of usenet naysay land, in
spite of whatever silly mindset, like to review an active Venus
planetology that's offering a rather nifty fluid arch?
If that's not good enough, I've got a list of Venus related topics to
pick from, as well as unlimited personal rants and otherwise
countless
notions with pesky questions to go along with most of those topics.
- Brad Guth -
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 09 Sep 2007 05:41:29 PM
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Rather odd there has been no active topic
contributions, as though Venus is somewhat taboo/nondisclosure rated.

You left your mitt in the oven too long, Brad, it melted.
--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Wee Davie Tholen is a grade-school lamer
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
Tom "TommY Crackpotter" Potter
<http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco>
"Classic erroneous presupposition. Others developed websites
so that they could have the Last Word, Deco. In the newsgroups,
I could counter their lies."
--David Tholen
.


User: "Bob Officer"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 24 Jul 2007 05:27:45 AM
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:00:43 -0000, in alt.astronomy, BradGuth
<bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Besides Venus having been where all the newish planetology and
geothermal action is still kicking butt, what's this off-world
spacecraft all about? (robotic obtained image or infomercial hoax??)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs

A hoax...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS43-M_0UuY&NR=1
Fooled you didn't it?

As I'd said before about this extremely weird and very artificial
looking item which seems in fact quite old if not ancient looking, but
otherwise at least offering an interesting notion to ponder, and
especially attractive since I believe ETs and variously complex DNA
had utilized our icy proto-moon on behalf of having survived their
interstellar trek. However, the very best of our NASA still does not
have such proven fly-by-rocket expertise (robotic or manned), nor have
we the required rad-hard DNA or any of that totally nonreactive/
(spectrum insensitive) Kodak film that supposedly had such hocus-pocus
***** poor DR(dynamic range) in that somehow it couldn't possibly have
recorded Venus (even though Venus should by rights have been there and
having been a brighter little speck of an item than any similar
optical speck of Earth). Go figure.

It was faked...
1. the intro imaging was real. the fielded panned as the orbiter
passed over the lunar-scape when they cut to the faked image, the
panning stopped.
It fooled you, didn't it?

Unlike the mainstream status quo that's continually constipated beyond
the point of no return, as for their having to continually ***** those
Yiddish infomercial bricks, whereas my observationology and deductive
interpretations without my having to pass such flatulence of painful
bricks, as based entirely upon the regular laws of physics and the
best available science, is still every bit as good and as painless as
it was 7+ years ago.

Why otherwise is there so much Old Testament flak and their MIB damage-
control gauntlet to deal with?

Is it simply anti-Yiddish to openly think that Carl Sagan was more
right than we'd thought possible?

It seems that faith of one sort or another is what got us into most
cold or hot wars, as well as this never-ending energy and GW fiasco in
the first place, and it's this undertow of faith that's puppeteering
on behalf of sustaining each of their status quo mindsets at all
cost. Therefore, any possible revision of the past, present or future
simply isn't allowed, no matters what. The anti antigravity cultism
is simply another portion of that swarm like mindset that's willing to
kill even their own kind in order to keep those various Old Testament
lids on tight.

Global warming has extensively to do with the lithobraking arrival of
our moon as of roughly 12,000 BP. However, on the behalf of various
lord/wizard/spook/mole/rusemaster (aka official Usenet naysayers),
I'll gladly say the following again and again, with as much honest
love and affection as I can muster in spite of the mainstream gauntlet
of flak that's sustaining their status quo.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was absolutely correct, in that
there's endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other
life within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this
crazy but otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/
nondisclosure rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain
to our terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets
or moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.

How am I doing so far?

You are an idiot.
--
Ak'toh'di
.
User: "John \C"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 24 Jul 2007 08:36:59 AM
"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message

You are an idiot.

You are a Deco ***** sucker.
HJ
.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 28 Aug 2007 07:31:33 AM
On Jul 24, 6:36 am, "John \"C\"" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:

"Bob Officer" <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote in message

You are an idiot.


You are a Deco ***** sucker.

HJ

Your "suggestive comments" as pointed out by Bill Snyder are noted.
Now do something or at least accomplish anything that actually matters
to humanity and that of our badly failing environment.
- Brad Guth
.

User: "Bill Snyder"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 24 Jul 2007 09:17:19 AM
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:36:59 -0500, "John \"C\""
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:


"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message

You are an idiot.


You are a Deco ***** sucker.

You're not fooling anybody. Why don't you just come out of the
closet, instead of making all the suggestive comments?
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 28 Aug 2007 07:27:10 AM
On Jul 24, 7:17 am, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:36:59 -0500, "John \"C\""

<honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:

"Bob Officer" <boboffic...@127.0.0.7> wrote in message


You are an idiot.


You are a Deco ***** sucker.


You're not fooling anybody. Why don't you just come out of the
closet, instead of making all the suggestive comments?

Terribly sorry for all the recent delay, in that my trusty GOOGLE/NOVA
usenet isn't updating their topic/author index in order to show where
folks like yourself have been contributing to any of my topics (I
think it another one of those pesky Jewish things, that is unless
you've got some other faith-based or atheistic cult to blame).
suggestive comments by *****. What's suggestive is that of your
mainstream status quo swarm mindset that has no honest intentions of
ever contributing on behalf of humanity, or much less on behalf of our
badly failing environment. Your total lack of remorse is just more of
the same infomercial spewing crapolla that's flowing up hill as we
speak.
Perhaps you're every bit as right as acid rain that never falls upon
Venus, as in your having been ignoring Venus for hosting such an
impressive looking tarmac, along with a nifty complex community of
rather substantial structures, multiple reservoirs and a rather nifty
bridge are apparently just another silly naysay butt load of those
silly hot rocks going wild against all possible odds, of simply having
opposed whatever's known to be possible via the planetology of natural
geology and gravity. I'll further suggest that you're worse off than
nuts?
- Brad Guth
.





User: "ah"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 29 May 2007 07:37:50 PM
BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit too hot to touch
with the Ovglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.

Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.

Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.

Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.

Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.

As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?

CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.

Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.

The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).

If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.

Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.

I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.

Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html

It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
-BradGuth



Quiet, ko0k.
.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 04 Jul 2007 01:51:16 AM
On Jun 1, 6:45 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 5:29 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 3:08 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 7:44 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 5:37 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit too hot to touch
with theOvglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.


Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.


Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.


Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.


Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
BradGuth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made byOvglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
-BradGuth


Quiet, ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


You are an AA sock, AICMF$!


Who you calling sock, sock?


You, you . . . you sock!


Sock it to me!


You just don't appreciate the gravity of the situation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.
-
Brad Guth
.
User: "ah"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 04 Aug 2007 08:07:53 PM
BradGuth wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:45 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 5:29 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 3:08 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 7:44 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 5:37 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit too hot to touch
with theOvglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.


Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.


Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.


Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.


Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
BradGuth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made byOvglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
-BradGuth


Quiet, ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


You are an AA sock, AICMF$!


Who you calling sock, sock?


You, you . . . you sock!


Sock it to me!


You just don't appreciate the gravity of the situation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.

It's a cliché, Brad.
.
User: "Double-A"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 06 Aug 2007 11:42:53 AM
On Aug 4, 6:07 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:45 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 5:29 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 3:08 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 7:44 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 5:37 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit to=

o hot to touch

with theOvglove, much less of any problem for a composit=

e rigid

airship.


Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any=

half smart ET

village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.


Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream s=

nookered and

otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to=

know about

such things.


Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital pho=

tographic

enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still =

so taboo/

nondisclosure rated.


Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the=

best

available science can't function off-world. I obviously=

didn't know

that such regular laws of physics and of whatever scienc=

e were so

unusually terrestrial limited.
-
BradGuth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / Georg=

e Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer =

and pizza, I

don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy a=

t your disposal

than you could possibly know what to do with, and havin=

g that nifty

thermal suit made byOvglove, where's the big-***** insurm=

ountable

problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll on=

Venus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't b=

een for a good

decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool n=

ighttime acidic

clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission p=

ositive win-

win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with th=

e 90.5% gravity

is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll wor=

k rather well

for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf o=

f those

Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthv=

enus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

or best you start with your very own look-see at the fo=

llowing

official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/h=

ires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts g=

etting

interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it a=

ll the best

PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the=

original GIF

1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop con=

figured brain

to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artifi=

cial as opposed

to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is off=

ering a lot of

truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good on=

e to stick with

rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixe=

l versions as

having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got=

one heck of a

nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small porti=

on of the total

image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and jus=

t to the right

of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 1=

0% or perhaps

even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to =

process upon

just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or perf=

ormance PC or

MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should=

become a whole

lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under =

force those

PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return=

, so don't do

that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't acco=

mplish much

better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and be=

sides, we don't

actually require much better than 6X for most others to=

see most

clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 form=

at.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted th=

is updated page

ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbna=

il_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that s=

o happens to

include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex commun=

ity of 'GUTHVenus'.

"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle=

1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

-BradGuth


Quiet, ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


You are an AA sock, AICMF$!


Who you calling sock, sock?


You, you . . . you sock!


Sock it to me!


You just don't appreciate the gravity of the situation.- Hide quoted t=

ext -


- Show quoted text -


Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.


It's a clich=E9, Brad.

I sock; you suck!
Double-A
.
User: "ah"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 09 Aug 2007 09:34:53 PM
Double-A wrote:

On Aug 4, 6:07 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:45 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 5:29 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 3:08 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 7:44 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 5:37 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit too hot to touch
with theOvglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.


Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.


Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.


Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.


Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
BradGuth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made byOvglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
-BradGuth


Quiet, ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


You are an AA sock, AICMF$!


Who you calling sock, sock?


You, you . . . you sock!


Sock it to me!


You just don't appreciate the gravity of the situation.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.


It's a cliché, Brad.



I sock; you suck!

MBB, eh.
.
User: "Double-A"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 09 Aug 2007 06:09:09 PM
On Aug 9, 7:34 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On Aug 4, 6:07 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

On Jun 1, 6:45 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 5:29 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 30, 3:08 am, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 7:44 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

Double-A wrote:

On May 29, 5:37 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2, Venus is still not the least bit=

too hot to touch

with theOvglove, much less of any problem for a compo=

site rigid

airship.


Comparing Earth/Venus is not even a fair game, as to =

any half smart ET

village idiot, the planet Venus wins every time.


Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstrea=

m snookered and

otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as=

to know about

such things.


Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital =

photographic

enlargement alternatives that are even better, is sti=

ll so taboo/

nondisclosure rated.


Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's =

the best

available science can't function off-world. I obviou=

sly didn't know

that such regular laws of physics and of whatever sci=

ence were so

unusually terrestrial limited.
-
BradGuth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / Ge=

orge Orwell


On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold be=

er and pizza, I

don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energ=

y at your disposal

than you could possibly know what to do with, and ha=

ving that nifty

thermal suit made byOvglove, where's the big-***** ins=

urmountable

problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll=

onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn'=

t been for a good

decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat coo=

l nighttime acidic

clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another missio=

n positive win-

win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with=

the 90.5% gravity

is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll =

work rather well

for your composite rigid airship (just like on behal=

f of those

Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://gu=

thvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

or best you start with your very own look-see at the=

following

official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgca=

t/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format start=

s getting

interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving i=

t all the best

PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although =

the original GIF

1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop =

configured brain

to deductively interpret upon what's most likely art=

ificial as opposed

to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is =

offering a lot of

truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good=

one to stick with

rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/p=

ixel versions as

having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've =

got one heck of a

nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small po=

rtion of the total

image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and =

just to the right

of center, as we're talking about utilizing less tha=

n 10% or perhaps

even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and =

to process upon

just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or p=

erformance PC or

MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights sho=

uld become a whole

lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/und=

er force those

PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no ret=

urn, so don't do

that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't a=

ccomplish much

better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and=

besides, we don't

actually require much better than 6X for most others=

to see most

clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 f=

ormat.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted=

this updated page

ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thum=

bnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one tha=

t so happens to

include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex com=

munity of 'GUTHVenus'.

"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cy=

cle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm=
..=2E.

-BradGuth


Quiet, ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


Quiet ko0k.


You are an AA sock, AICMF$!


Who you calling sock, sock?


You, you . . . you sock!


Sock it to me!


You just don't appreciate the gravity of the situation.- Hide quote=

d text -


- Show quoted text -


Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.


It's a clich=E9, Brad.


I sock; you suck!


MBB, eh.

You do?
Double-A
.



User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 28 Aug 2007 07:20:43 AM
On Aug 4, 6:07 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.


It's a clich=E9, Brad.

Terribly sorry for all the delay, in that my trusty GOOGLE/NOVA usenet
isn't updating their topic/author index in order to show where folks
like yourself have been contributing to any of my topics (I think it
another one of those pesky Jewish things, that is unless you've got
some other faith-based or atheistic cult to blame).
Clich=E9 by *****. What's clich=E9 is your mainstream status quo swarm
mindset that has no honest intentions of ever contributing on behalf
of humanity, or much less on behalf of our badly failing environment.
Perhaps you're every bit as right as acid rain that never falls, as in
your having been ignoring Venus for hosting such an impressive looking
tarmac, along with a nifty complex community of rather substantial
structures, multiple reservoirs and a rather nifty bridge are
apparently just another silly naysay butt load of those silly hot
rocks going wild against all possible odds, of simply having opposed
whatever's known to be possible via the planetology of natural geology
and gravity. Are you nuts?
- Brad Guth
.
User: "Bob Officer"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 28 Aug 2007 08:22:37 AM
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:20:43 -0000, in alt.astronomy, BradGuth
<bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 4, 6:07 pm, ah <splifing...@gmail.com> wrote:

BradGuth wrote:

Perhaps gravity within certain mindsets doesn't really exist,
therefore the "gravity of the situation" doesn't exist.


It's a cliché, Brad.


Terribly sorry for all the delay, in that my trusty GOOGLE/NOVA usenet

Google as trusty? Brad how many times have you had problems with
Google? I guess you get what you pay for...

isn't updating their topic/author index in order to show where folks
like yourself have been contributing to any of my topics (I think it
another one of those pesky Jewish things, that is unless you've got
some other faith-based or atheistic cult to blame).

Nothing like tossing out some bigotry, Brad.

Cliché by *****. What's cliché is your mainstream status quo swarm
mindset that has no honest intentions of ever contributing on behalf
of humanity, or much less on behalf of our badly failing environment.

Badly failing?

Perhaps you're every bit as right as acid rain that never falls, as in

Is acid rain ever a natural occurrence?

your having been ignoring Venus for hosting such an impressive looking

Venus is a entire different thing. There is very little water vapor,
and most of the acid is Complex Sulfur compounds

tarmac, along with a nifty complex community of rather substantial
structures, multiple reservoirs and a rather nifty bridge are
apparently just another silly naysay butt load of those silly hot

What?

rocks going wild against all possible odds, of simply having opposed
whatever's known to be possible via the planetology of natural geology
and gravity. Are you nuts?

NO, he isn't but it seems you are...

- Brad Guth

--
Ak'toh'di
.





User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 13 Jun 2007 06:38:19 PM
On May 29, 6:47 am, BradGuth <
> wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2,Venusis still not the least bit too hot to touch
with the Ovglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.

Comparing Earth/Venusis not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planetVenuswins every time.

Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.

Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.

Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell

On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:



As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
-BradGuth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -

Where's all the love and affection on behalf of Venus? (the next best
other planet to Earth)
It's as though our toasty and somewhat newish planetology of Venus is
taboo/nondisclosure rated, almost as much so as our moon.
Where's all of the supposed expertise and otherwise wizards of space
and planetary science?
Why all the topic/author banishment?
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth
.
User: "ah"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 29 Jun 2007 05:44:22 PM
BradGuth wrote:

On May 29, 6:47 am, BradGuth <

> wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2,Venusis still not the least bit too hot to touch
with the Ovglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.

Comparing Earth/Venusis not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planetVenuswins every time.

Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.

Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.

Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell

On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:



As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...
-BradGuth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where's all the love and affection on behalf of Venus? (the next best
other planet to Earth)

It's as though our toasty and somewhat newish planetology of Venus is
taboo/nondisclosure rated, almost as much so as our moon.

Where's all of the supposed expertise and otherwise wizards of space
and planetary science?

Why all the topic/author banishment?

Life is most-often weird enough.
.
User: "John \C"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 29 Jun 2007 07:22:44 PM
"ah" <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4685879a$0$4836$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...

BradGuth wrote:

On May 29, 6:47 am, BradGuth <

> wrote:

At losing 20.5 w/m2,Venusis still not the least bit too hot to touch
with the Ovglove, much less of any problem for a composite rigid
airship.

Comparing Earth/Venusis not even a fair game, as to any half smart ET
village idiot, the planetVenuswins every time.

Too bad that Cambridge and the like are too mainstream snookered and
otherwise dumbfounded past the point of no return, as to know about
such things.

Too bad that ADOBE PhotoShop or the likes of digital photographic
enlargement alternatives that are even better, is still so taboo/
nondisclosure rated.

Too bad them pesky laws of physics and of whatever's the best
available science can't function off-world. I obviously didn't know
that such regular laws of physics and of whatever science were so
unusually terrestrial limited.
-
Brad Guth
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell

On Apr 4, 5:07 pm,

wrote:



As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.


As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your

disposal

than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-***** insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll onVenus?


CO2-->CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.


Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime

acidic

clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.


The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5%

gravity

is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).


If you're any damn good at PhotoShop,

goto:http://guthvenus.tripod.com/http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image

site:http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif


The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as

opposed

to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick

with

rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.


Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the

total

image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.


I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a

whole

lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we

don't

actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.


Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated

page


ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbn
ails.html


It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of

'GUTHVenus'.

"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle

1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

-BradGuth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Where's all the love and affection on behalf of Venus? (the next best
other planet to Earth)

It's as though our toasty and somewhat newish planetology of Venus is
taboo/nondisclosure rated, almost as much so as our moon.

Where's all of the supposed expertise and otherwise wizards of space
and planetary science?

Why all the topic/author banishment?


Life is most-often weird enough.

We know:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMEGN2bdVJk
HJ
.
User: "BradGuth"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 30 Jun 2007 09:23:23 AM
On Jun 29, 5:22 pm, "John \"C\"" <honestj...@centurytel.net> wrote:

We know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMEGN2bdVJk

HJ

Apparently you silly folks do not know enough.
-
Brad Guth
.
User: "Art Deco"

Title: Re: Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove 30 Jun 2007 04:59:18 PM
BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently you silly folks do not know enough.

I see you are back to ranting about your oven mitt, Vern. Your
selection of subjects seem to be cyclical.
--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
<http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco>