From: jacob navia (jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr)
Subject: Re: Vestiges of Big Bang Waves Are Reported
Newsgroups: sci.physics, gac.physics.astronomy, sci.astro,
alt.astronomy, alt.sci.physics
Date: 2005-01-20 14:27:47 PST
SDR wrote:
The mind can do anything. You should read a little Emily
Dickinson.
I suppose you say that because I wrote:
He needs to postulate that space is shrinking relative
to another "x-space" as he calls it.
And that "x-space" doesn't shrink or... does it?
I believe I also said space is merely the distance
between bits of matter (and not just planets/galaxies).
Then you lost control, and started babbling like
this:
I often do this. It's great for working out the wrinkles
on one's big fat mouth.
I see that there are far too many persons in this world
of evolved apes who will never understand even the simplest
facts/elucidations.
You are not an evolved ape then?
Sometimes I wonder--I do love to hang around trees.
Oh my... You mean you are just an ape?
I'm proud to be an ape. I love to toss my feces around.
Yes, I hope I am an evolved one. :-)
Hopping ain't gonna do it: That's kangaroo stuff there.
I know, there are people that will not understand
the simplest facts:
The simplest facts are the hardest to understand.
I've often talked gibberish to people and they nod
and say, "Uh-Huh." But the minute I try to tell them
that 2+2=5 it starts a big brawl.
Space can't expand nor shrink.
That should be "or."
*Into what* would space expand/shrink?
Into more/less space?
That's a simple fact.
Now you just wanna fight.
So I will post "The Origin of The Universe"
as a sort of literary narrative--perhaps many more persons
might grasp the thing if they think they are reading a story.
It is a story. You do not present any observation
that would give credit to the story as fact.
Matter is there for me to talk about: That's a fact, Mister.
[snip]
PS. In your other post you seem to have been brought up
on "Ant Man" comics or the like: Let me assure you that
"life" can only exist as made up of our sorts of atoms.
I am convinced that at all levels of life, people are
saying the same thing:
That explains the babble you're hearing.
Only our atoms are conceivable. Most people living in the
surface of my atoms do not believe I am living. And many
among them must be in a stage where the lower levels aren't
at all visible, like humans 200 years ago.
Although atoms may themselves be composed of subparticles
ad infinitum, it's impossible for us to predict what form
these "particles" take much below the level of quarks
Yes, we do not know at all what happens within a quark, and
what is made of.
(and
no "beings" could be composed of anything like quarks).
Why not?
I think i explained it in my post: read it again.
How can you ever know if you do not know at all
what are they made of?
I may not know what's in a suitcase, but I know
it can't be a gorilla.
You said that there are NO ELEMENTARY PARTICLES, what
(at least in my opinion) is a good idea. There is always
a particle smaller than the one we know about. To all
"particles" we can suppose it is made of even
smaller ones ad infinitum.
Smaller scales would have a higher time, bigger scales
a slower one. Galaxy movements take forever, seen from
our time frame.
So?
Not
to mentioin that all life as we know it
Beings in the "surface" of an atom (whatever that
is) would surely be completely different than we
are. They would be "life as we do not know it"
from the very start. Photons, atoms, etc are
big structures for them, that move very slowly.
They'd certainly need their own Sun, and toilets.
Most of the atom is empty space, and in the center
there is a liquid form, the core, where all the
mass is.
Liquid centers? Are they gooey chocolate or berry?
The liquid nature of the core is more evident in
big atoms, with many protons and neutrons.
This liquid could have a complex chemistry where
the particles that make the "liquid" could react
in very complex ways. Not only the proton/neutron
interaction but the reactions of their basic
particles.
Still, life is software, and software can be
constructed at all levels of being. Whatever
they are, the "particles" that make our atoms,
they could have an evolution within them
and construct very complex forms in seconds,
just seconds.
must feed on some
form of radiation or other--and the particles of radiation
are just so small and no smaller. Sorry.
There must be "radiation", i.e. energy, but surely not
in form of photons, or particles we know about.
I can only think about one universe at a time.
This beings are off limits for us anyway.
We can never meet them.
They live in another time and space frame.
Don't you mean "lived?" By now their entire universe
must have run its course and vanished. R.I.P.
S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://music.sdrodrian.com
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