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27 Jan 2008 05:45:01 PM |
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What If time isn't linear? |
What If time isn't linear?
But perhaps a circle so imense we simply can not precieve or calculate
the curviture. Or more interestingly yet a spiral?
Could this factor explain why so many therories of everything seem to
have unresolved issues?
Robert Mark Coe
Dumb questions are forgotten long before dumb mistakes.
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| User: "Tom Potter" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
28 Jan 2008 08:00:06 AM |
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<gentilelover@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:es5qp358dvaoigo2a1eaeo94u0j9make2g@4ax.com...
What If time isn't linear?
But perhaps a circle so imense we simply can not precieve or calculate
the curviture. Or more interestingly yet a spiral?
Could this factor explain why so many therories of everything seem to
have unresolved issues?
Robert Mark Coe
Dumb questions are forgotten long before dumb mistakes.
Time in the sense of change, aging,
growths and decays of populations,
and the things emotionally associated with time,
is an exponential function.
However, this exponential time,
is usually quantized using the most stable "time base" possible,
and the most stable time bases are "high Q" oscillating systems.
Q of a system = the energy stored in the system to the energy
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the energy lost in one cycle
( Actually the amount of action should be used rather than energy,
as change leaves and enters systems in quanta of action.)
The time of most interest to people
is exponential time,
as this is the time involved with aging,
compound interest, population growth,
the growth of a cancer,
the decay of brain cells,
atomic decay,
the discharge of a battery,
the damping of a spring-mass system,
the growth of a company or a nation, etc.
Stable oscillating systems,
involve the sympathetic exchange of energy
between two bodies, and
is an exchange between a static and a dynamic field.
All bodies try to partner with, and exchange energy with,
a sympathetic partner, so as to maintain all energy within
the system, but ultimately all sympathetic systems
lose energy to the Great Heat Sink in the sky (Entropy),
The bottom line is
that the time of interest is really exponential,
and could be most finely quantized
by counting populations in a stable environment,
but as stable environments cannot be maintained,
and unit changes in the population counts of germ cultures,
the quanta of action in a spring mass system, etc.
the best one can do is use an external time
and plot, measure, observe
the gross changes in the populations and systems of interest.
Note that if you counted contiguous population changes
in temperatures, bacterial cultures, and any body or system
which is changing in some way,
you would know more about the factors at work,
such as the stability of the environment,
changes in the birth and death rates of the population members,
the affects of outside populations, etc.
Exponential time is the decay of a pendulum,
and this time is quantized
using the relatively stable period of a pendulum.
If you want to know more about the pendulum
and the pendulum's environment,
(The system you are studying.)
you must look beyond the period of the pendulum.
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf?=" |
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| Title: Does gravitation require a heat sink ? I wonder. |
28 Jan 2008 06:20:40 PM |
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There'd be no motion, no “ life ”, if “ sympathetic systems ” didn't
“ lose energy to the Great Heat Sink in the sky ( Entropy ) ”
( i.e. if the cosmos could reach true equilibrium ).
Heat sinks are the bases of all engines, including life.
Does gravitation require a heat sink ? I wonder.
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: Does gravitation require a heat sink ? I wonder. |
28 Jan 2008 06:44:57 PM |
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Jeff?Relf wrote:
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Idiot.
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Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf?=" |
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| Title: Uncle Al, the world is using Unicode, even if you aren't. |
28 Jan 2008 07:05:15 PM |
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The world is using Unicode, Uncle Al, even if you aren't.
If you use Outlook on XP/Vista or Google Groups on FireFox/IE7,
you can see the Unicode in this post:
“ news:Jeff_Relf_2008_Jan_28__4_20_Pl@Cotse.NET ”.
Some people have Outlook set-up so it won't send-out UTF-8;
but it can always read it. ( UTF-8 is a Unicode CharSet )
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Uncle Al, the world is using Unicode, even if you aren't. |
28 Jan 2008 09:21:43 PM |
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On Jan 28, 4:05 pm, Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf <Jeff_R...@Yahoo.COM> wrote:
The world is using Unicode, Uncle Al, even if you aren't.
Since when do YOU care about standards?
If you use Outlook on XP/Vista or Google Groups on FireFox/IE7,
you can see the Unicode in this post:
=E2=80=9Cnews:Jeff_Relf_2008_Jan_28__4_20_Pl@Cotse.NET=E2=80=9D.
Some people have Outlook set-up so it won't send-out UTF-8;
but it can always read it. ( UTF-8 is a Unicode CharSet )
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
27 Jan 2008 05:59:56 PM |
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wrote:
What If time isn't linear?
But perhaps a circle so imense we simply can not precieve or calculate
the curviture. Or more interestingly yet a spiral?
Could this factor explain why so many therories of everything seem to
have unresolved issues?
No.
Education: that which discloses to the wise and disguises from the
foolish their lack of understanding.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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27 Jan 2008 08:42:11 PM |
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wrote:
What If time isn't linear?
Look up time dilation
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| User: "tadchem" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
28 Jan 2008 01:46:53 AM |
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On Jan 27, 6:45 pm, wrote:
What If time isn't linear?
But perhaps a circle so imense we simply can not precieve or calculate
the curviture. Or more interestingly yet a spiral?
Could this factor explain why so many therories of everything seem to
have unresolved issues?
Robert Mark Coe
Dumb questions are forgotten long before dumb mistakes.
"Slaughterhouse-Five; or, The Children's Crusade" (1969, Kurt
Vonnegut)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse_Five
Story explores non-linear time flow...
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf?=" |
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| Title: Slaughterhouse-Five and the ability to peruse 4-D space. |
28 Jan 2008 11:14:35 PM |
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Five and the ability to peruse 4-D space,
Quoting Slaughterhouse-Five ( at WikiQuote.ORG ):
“ American planes, full of holes and wounded men and corpses,
took off backwards from an airfield in England.
Over France, a few German fighter planes flew at them backwards,
sucked bullets and shell fragments from some of the planes and crewmen.
The bombers opened their bomb-bay doors,
exerted a miraculous magnetism which shrunk the fires,
gathered them into cylindrical steel containers,
and lifted the containers into the bellies of the planes.
The Germans below had miraculous devices of their own,
which were long steel tubes.
They used them to suck more fragments from the crewmen and planes.
When the bombers got back to their base,
the steel cylinders were taken from the racks
and shipped back to the United States of America,
where factories were operating night and day,
dismantling the cylinders,
separating the dangerous contents into minerals.
Touchingly, it was mainly women who did this work.
The minerals were then shipped to specialists in remote areas.
It was their business to put them into the ground,
to hide them cleverly, so they would never hurt anybody ever again. ”.
-- http://WikiQuote.ORG/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
28 Jan 2008 09:41:11 PM |
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at the edge of the universe time is a strait line.
A photon from outside the visible univese is a strait line . It will
pass you at c with 0 wavelngth and constant frequency .
ALL PHOTONS are 100 % of the enegy that was ejected from the atom it
was ejected from.
The photon from outside the visible universe where time is a strait
line is a photon is a photon and not less energy.
A photon in the least time is the most energy exchange .
The photon passed at c and was 100 % the energy displaced .
as time is dispaced in all directions there is more time between 2
masses .
Orbits are how much time the mass is on one side of the center of G. and
so is motion and gravity and magntisem
It will not react if it dont have time but will be displaced by time.
Any time near the same time is an energy exchange .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
28 Jan 2008 09:28:40 PM |
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Time is a line from the cente of evry atom to the edge of the visible
universe where time becomes a strait line dark energy.
No two points in the universe is at the same time .
The neutron and proton are not at the same time . The electron cant
react with the time of the nuetron.
All photons are the same amount of energy ejeced from an atom. What
time the photon is from ,,is how much energy the photon has .
All photon energy exchanges are reactions in time . Time is the only
factor in any energy exchange between photons.
Gravity is the amount of time on each side of the atom. Time is
displaced as orbits displace dark energy ( time ). The only differance
in the mass between 2 centers of G is time.
c is the rate energy reacts with energy.
Nothing is at the same time .
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: What If time isn't linear? |
28 Jan 2008 09:30:27 PM |
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the big bang is just time coliding with time.
Mass is just time coliding with time.
Mass is the defferance between any 2 points in time.
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| User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=98=A0Relf?=" |
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| Title: The Great Heat Sink in the Sky. |
28 Jan 2008 10:08:43 PM |
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The Big Bang is the cosmos forever approaching equilibrium,
but never getting there.
To borrow a phrase from Tom Potter,
God is “ The Great Heat Sink in the Sky ”, fueling life ( motion ),
creating and destroying all that is or ever was.
Mass is gyroscopic energy.
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