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Topic: Science > Physics
User: "Jeff Wisnia"
Date: 07 Apr 2006 11:46:37 PM
Object: What's wrong with my Crookes Radiometer?
For a dozen or more years we've had an inexpensive Crookes radiometer
sitting on our kitchen window sill, and it turns as expected when
sunlight falls on it. It looks pretty much like this:
http://radiometer.hobbytron.com/Radiometer.html
The other morning I noticed that sunlight shining on it but it wasn't
turning. It looked like the rotor assembly had gotten out of balance and
was tilted so the hole in the X shaped metal hub at the bottom of the
glass bearing tube was touching the support needle and adding enough
friction to keep it from working.
I jiggled it a little and it came unstuck and the rotor began turning as
it should, but after a short time got "stuck" the same way again.
I began to look at it more closely.
I put it in dim light and with the rotor hub centered on the support
needle, if I tilt the bulb slightly so the hole in the X shaped metal
paddle hub starts moving off center with respect to the needle it
reaches a point where the rotor will suddenly "jump" the rest of the way
so the hole in the X piece hits the needle with an slight audible click
and sticks there even when I return the unit to an upright position. I
have to jiggle it until the rotor ends up centered again.
I can get it to "stick" like that at any point around the periphery of
the hole in the metal paddle hub.
I thought that the support needle and the metal hub might be both made
of steel and had somehow gotten slightly magnetized, but I moved a 3/4"
diameter high energy magnet around the radiometer bulb when the rotor
was not turning and centered ok and there was nary a wiggle from the
rotor, so I guess the metal parts of the rotor assembly don't contain
any magnetic materials.
I'm thinking that what's happening must be an electrostatic effect, but
I don't understand why it started happening now nor how to get rid of
it. On a whim I wiped off the outside of the glass bulb with some
antistatic liquid we use on the glass platens of photocopy machines, but
got no improvement.
Anyone else experienced this kind of effect with a similar radiometer?
And if you have, did you find a way to eliminate it?
Thanks guys,
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: What's wrong with my Crookes Radiometer? 09 Apr 2006 02:33:30 AM
Hi Jeff_Wisnia, You asked: What's wrong with my Crookes Radiometer ?
Friction, too worn out.
Either buy a new one or jump-start it with artificial light.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: What's wrong with my Crookes Radiometer? 09 Apr 2006 03:35:17 AM
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Title: Eric_Gisse and T_Wake follow me around like toothless mad dogs. 09 Apr 2006 05:32:42 AM
Hi Eric_Gisse, You and T_Wake follow me around like toothless mad dogs.
Although I see all your replies to me, direct or indirect, up to 5 levels away,
it takes me a no time at all to hit the icon that instantly deletes your spam.
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User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Eric_Gisse and T_Wake follow me around like toothless mad dogs. 11 Apr 2006 03:13:27 PM
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Apr_9_jdOM@Cotse.NET...

Hi Eric_Gisse, You and T_Wake follow me around like toothless mad dogs.
Although I see all your replies to me, direct or indirect, up to 5 levels
away,
it takes me a no time at all to hit the icon that instantly deletes your
spam.

Good for you.
I care not if you read my replies or not. What I do care about though is
that anyone innocent enough to think you know even a fraction of the first
thing about any form of science is *not* fooled into thinking what you say
is true.
You can ignore all my posts for all I care. (Yet despite claiming to "hit
the icon that instantly deletes your spam" you still reply...) You don't
know anything about physics and refuse to learn.
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User: "=?UTF-8?Q?Jeff=E2=80=A6Relf?="

Title: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 12 Apr 2006 09:17:24 PM
Hi T_Wake, You told me:
Despite claiming to "hit the icon that instantly deletes your spam"
you still reply.
Ok, T_Wake, put down your doughnut
and at least try to follow the bouncing ball.
On key instantly deletes _One_ of your vacuous posts,
that doesn't mean I always do that.
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User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 01:23:41 PM
"Jeff.Relf" <Jeff_Relf@Yahoo.COM> wrote in message
news:Jeff_Relf_2006_Apr_12_nd9F@Cotse.NET...

Hi T_Wake, You told me:

Despite claiming to "hit the icon that instantly deletes your spam"
you still reply.

Ok, T_Wake, put down your doughnut
and at least try to follow the bouncing ball.

On key instantly deletes _One_ of your vacuous posts,
that doesn't mean I always do that.

Ok, why mention it then? Is it simply something you can talk about instead
of actually discussing the science topics you apparently know so little
about?
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 12 Apr 2006 09:37:54 PM
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User: "Roy L. Fuchs"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 12 Apr 2006 10:32:20 PM
On 12 Apr 2006 19:37:54 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Jeff...Relf wrote:

[snip usual Relf droppings]

1362 lines of retarded CRAP removed. Your spamming is going to get
your lame ***** in a sling, you fucking retard!
You're a goddamned retard, boy!
FOURTH complaint forwarded.
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User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 12 Apr 2006 10:35:03 PM
Roy L. Fuchs wrote:

On 12 Apr 2006 19:37:54 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Jeff...Relf wrote:

[snip usual Relf droppings]


1362 lines of retarded CRAP removed. Your spamming is going to get
your lame ***** in a sling, you fucking retard!

You're a goddamned retard, boy!

FOURTH complaint forwarded.

Do you have a learning disability? Every reply I post to relf will be
of the same manner. Stop reading them.
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User: "Roy L. Fuchs"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 12 Apr 2006 11:03:15 PM
On 12 Apr 2006 20:35:03 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Do you have a learning disability? Every reply I post to relf will be
of the same manner. Stop reading them.

Do YOU have a dead brain?
Every reply you make in that manner is SPAM, and is a TOS violation
as well as a google policy violation, you fucking utter retard!
You need to go buy a clue somewhere, or get your ***** stomped.
You are worse than some retard that posts a binary to a text group.
That fact that you are doing this deliberately is even MORE proof of a
total TOS violation. Your ***** will be traced, and your ***** should be
maced!
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User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 01:32:44 PM
"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
news:c6jr3256u7e3qhg1f8hu8ntkchd79honnp@4ax.com...

On 12 Apr 2006 20:35:03 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Do you have a learning disability? Every reply I post to relf will be
of the same manner. Stop reading them.


Do YOU have a dead brain?

Every reply you make in that manner is SPAM, and is a TOS violation
as well as a google policy violation, you fucking utter retard!

You need to go buy a clue somewhere, or get your ***** stomped.

You are worse than some retard that posts a binary to a text group.
That fact that you are doing this deliberately is even MORE proof of a
total TOS violation. Your ***** will be traced, and your ***** should be
maced!

Interestingly enough, Prodigy.net's (I assume this is your ISP) TOS
prohibits "Inappropriate Language or Images - profane, vulgar, obscene, or
sexually explicit language or images (including explicit descriptions of
sexual acts), even if masked by other characters; "
Not to mention the legal implications of the explicit threats in your post.
As far as SPAM goes, Eric's posts don't really fall into that category -
defined by Prodigy.net as "sending of large numbers of e-mail, and e-mail
ads in particular, to numerous e-mail users; or blanket postings to the same
newsgroups;" The Google Groups TOS makes no reference to production of SPAM
onto USENET, and while offensive or harassing posts would be prohibited, the
TOS also makes no reference to posting Off Topic messages.
I am not attempting to justify Eric's choice of posts in response to Jeff
Relf, but I would like to highlight the irony of your response to Eric's
post.
It is a lot easier for you to kill file Eric's posts than increase the noise
by posting ranting responses to Eric. As you have never fired off against
Jeff, I can only assume you have him in your kill file, why cant you do the
same with Eric?
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User: "Roy L. Fuchs"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 02:52:16 PM
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:32:44 +0100, "T Wake"
<Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> Gave us:


"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message
news:c6jr3256u7e3qhg1f8hu8ntkchd79honnp@4ax.com...

On 12 Apr 2006 20:35:03 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Do you have a learning disability? Every reply I post to relf will be
of the same manner. Stop reading them.


Do YOU have a dead brain?

Every reply you make in that manner is SPAM, and is a TOS violation
as well as a google policy violation, you fucking utter retard!

You need to go buy a clue somewhere, or get your ***** stomped.

You are worse than some retard that posts a binary to a text group.
That fact that you are doing this deliberately is even MORE proof of a
total TOS violation. Your ***** will be traced, and your ***** should be
maced!


Interestingly enough, Prodigy.net's (I assume this is your ISP)

You assume incorrectly. They are the folks that lease NNTP access
to my ISP.

TOS
prohibits "Inappropriate Language or Images - profane, vulgar, obscene, or
sexually explicit language or images (including explicit descriptions of
sexual acts), even if masked by other characters; "

They also know their limits on freedom of speech issues, *****.

Not to mention the legal implications of the explicit threats in your post.

There is no threat whatsoever in my post, you retarded asswipe.
Telling someone they NEED to have their ***** kicked is NOT a threat,
dumbass.

As far as SPAM goes, Eric's posts don't really fall into that category -

Yes, they do, as they are repetitive. You need to BONE UP, boy.

defined by Prodigy.net

He posted through google, dipshit. His posts are subject to THEIR
TOS, you fucking retard.

as "sending of large numbers of e-mail, and e-mail
ads in particular,

But not ONLY ads, dipshit. You need reading comprehension skill
enhancement as well, I see.

to numerous e-mail users; or blanket postings to the same
newsgroups;"

What part of "blanket postings" do you not understand? No, all those
little separate posts did NOT have to be done at one time. They fall
under the "blanket posting SPAM" moniker due to the simple fact that
they are cut and paste copies of the same CRAP over and over.

The Google Groups TOS makes no reference to production of SPAM
onto USENET, and while offensive or harassing posts would be prohibited, the
TOS also makes no reference to posting Off Topic messages.

The CRAP he posts is harassing, dipshit.

I am not attempting to justify Eric's choice of posts in response to Jeff
Relf, but I would like to highlight the irony of your response to Eric's
post.

You are retarded to assume some irony in it. It was right on the
money, and no, I do not have to refrain from calling him a fucking
retard while telling him to stop spamming, and NO, I do not have to
worry about calling you one either.

It is a lot easier for you to kill file Eric's posts than increase the noise
by posting ranting responses to Eric.

No. It is a lot easier to forward the post to google, trace the
injection info to his ISP, and forward the post to them as well.
The little retarded bat's turd needs to learn some of the facts of
life as it relates to Usenet. FilterTards like you contribute NOTHING
to the forum whatsoever.

As you have never fired off against
Jeff,

I fired off against a 1300 plus line post that was utter CRAP. Are
you even coming anywhere close to getting a clue yet?

I can only assume you have him in your kill file,

That fact that you make presumptions that have no logical basis
shows that you have no capacity to read this issue worth a *****. Much
less that you do it in Usenet of all places. What a joke, you are.

why cant you do the
same with Eric?

Your ***** is showing. You should get that fixed.
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 03:22:02 PM
"Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> cried herself to sleep and
when she finally woke, she wrote in message
news:39at32ptmsjp97hifj73e06nibhr1o51nl@4ax.com...

Interestingly enough, Prodigy.net's (I assume this is your ISP)


You assume incorrectly. They are the folks that lease NNTP access
to my ISP.

Ok. My mistake. It isnt something which unduly bothers me.

They also know their limits on freedom of speech issues, *****.

Freedom of speech is not in question here. You are the one demanding that
Eric not post things which you find inappropriate. I was simply pointing out
the irony in your method of making these demands.

Not to mention the legal implications of the explicit threats in your
post.


There is no threat whatsoever in my post, you retarded asswipe.
Telling someone they NEED to have their ***** kicked is NOT a threat,
dumbass.

Fine. I don't care.
By the way, your posts have the literacy of a retarded seven year old. Is
this accurate?

As far as SPAM goes, Eric's posts don't really fall into that category -


Yes, they do, as they are repetitive. You need to BONE UP, boy.

Well, you are wrong. Spam is defined as something *you* find repetative.

What part of "blanket postings" do you not understand? No, all those
little separate posts did NOT have to be done at one time. They fall
under the "blanket posting SPAM" moniker due to the simple fact that
they are cut and paste copies of the same CRAP over and over.

Ok, genius. What has been Google's response to your complaints so far?
Despite your girl like whining that Prodigy's TOS isn't relevant, it is the
only TOS which would show any signs of objecting to Eric's posts.
Sadly, you are too busy feeling clever in your imaginative use of mild swear
words to realise your argument is becoming circular and you are, truly, that
which you are complaining about.
Ironic isn't it?

The Google Groups TOS makes no reference to production of SPAM
onto USENET, and while offensive or harassing posts would be prohibited,
the
TOS also makes no reference to posting Off Topic messages.


The CRAP he posts is harassing, dipshit.

Who to?
As I said, we can test this. You claim to have made at least four complaints
to Google about Eric's posts. What action have they taken?
What is your goal in posting crying replies to Eric's posts?

I am not attempting to justify Eric's choice of posts in response to Jeff
Relf, but I would like to highlight the irony of your response to Eric's
post.


You are retarded to assume some irony in it. It was right on the
money, and no, I do not have to refrain from calling him a fucking
retard while telling him to stop spamming, and NO, I do not have to
worry about calling you one either.

Call me anything you like. You come across like a whining six year old, why
would your opinion of me mean anything?
If you werent so obsessed with finding some obscure thing to obsess about,
you would see the irony in your posts. Sadly, you are blinded by your
whining and you have missed this. Never mind.
Eventually, you will get over puberty and we can talk like adults.

It is a lot easier for you to kill file Eric's posts than increase the
noise
by posting ranting responses to Eric.


No. It is a lot easier to forward the post to google, trace the
injection info to his ISP, and forward the post to them as well.
The little retarded bat's turd needs to learn some of the facts of
life as it relates to Usenet. FilterTards like you contribute NOTHING
to the forum whatsoever.

And you are the life and the soul of the party. Let me know when you have
some success.

As you have never fired off against
Jeff,


I fired off against a 1300 plus line post that was utter CRAP. Are
you even coming anywhere close to getting a clue yet?

Well, based on your determination of what that clue is, probably not.
Sadly, you are also distant from ever getting a clue.

I can only assume you have him in your kill file,


That fact that you make presumptions that have no logical basis

"no logical basis?" Odd, as I explained my logical basis.
Sadly, you are now simply ranting in the manner of numerous USENET cranks.

shows that you have no capacity to read this issue worth a *****. Much
less that you do it in Usenet of all places. What a joke, you are.

Oh well. I am sure you and Spaceman can have endless conversations about how
right you are. Jeff Relf can entertain you with his amusing anecdotes and
you will all live happily ever after.

why cant you do the
same with Eric?


Your ***** is showing. You should get that fixed.

Are you looking forward to getting over puberty?
.

User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 02:54:31 PM
Roy L. Fuchs wrote:
[...]
Shutup, whiner.
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User: "Roy L. Fuchs"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 03:34:09 PM
On 13 Apr 2006 12:54:31 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:


Roy L. Fuchs wrote:

[...]

Shutup, whiner.

Grow up, retard.
.
User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 07:38:15 PM
Roy L. Fuchs wrote:

On 13 Apr 2006 12:54:31 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:


Roy L. Fuchs wrote:

[...]

Shutup, whiner.



Grow up, retard.

Shutup, whiner.
.





User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 01:37:17 AM
Roy L. Fuchs wrote:

On 12 Apr 2006 20:35:03 -0700, "Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> Gave
us:

Do you have a learning disability? Every reply I post to relf will be
of the same manner. Stop reading them.


Do YOU have a dead brain?

Every reply you make in that manner is SPAM, and is a TOS violation
as well as a google policy violation, you fucking utter retard!

You need to go buy a clue somewhere, or get your ***** stomped.

You are worse than some retard that posts a binary to a text group.
That fact that you are doing this deliberately is even MORE proof of a
total TOS violation. Your ***** will be traced, and your ***** should be
maced!

As I said, my posts follow a certain pattern. If you have a learning
disability and can't make the logical connection of "stupid relf post
--- > eric gisse telling him to shut the ***** up", then too bad.
Your posts aren't that much better, anyway. Get off the soapbox.
.
User: "Sam Wormley"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 08:50:07 AM
Eric Gisse wrote:


As I said, my posts follow a certain pattern. If you have a learning
disability and can't make the logical connection of "stupid relf post
--- > eric gisse telling him to shut the ***** up", then too bad.

Your posts aren't that much better, anyway. Get off the soapbox.

They are wearing rather thin... perhap you could just stick Relf
in your kill file. Out of sight--out of mind.
.
User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 01:40:30 PM
Sam Wormley wrote:

Eric Gisse wrote:


As I said, my posts follow a certain pattern. If you have a learning
disability and can't make the logical connection of "stupid relf post
--- > eric gisse telling him to shut the ***** up", then too bad.

Your posts aren't that much better, anyway. Get off the soapbox.


They are wearing rather thin... perhap you could just stick Relf
in your kill file. Out of sight--out of mind.

Argh. I tried.
I might have to drop Google and find not only a client that can
killfile a person, but every thread he starts. Other people never
bothered me - I can just ignore them, but Relf has to start new threads
with his horrible, horrible NTTP client every time he posts.
.
User: "T Wake"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 13 Apr 2006 01:49:01 PM
"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144953630.703284.45990@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Sam Wormley wrote:

Eric Gisse wrote:


As I said, my posts follow a certain pattern. If you have a learning
disability and can't make the logical connection of "stupid relf post
--- > eric gisse telling him to shut the ***** up", then too bad.

Your posts aren't that much better, anyway. Get off the soapbox.


They are wearing rather thin... perhap you could just stick Relf
in your kill file. Out of sight--out of mind.


Argh. I tried.

I might have to drop Google and find not only a client that can
killfile a person, but every thread he starts. Other people never
bothered me - I can just ignore them, but Relf has to start new threads
with his horrible, horrible NTTP client every time he posts.

What OS do you use? Most newsreaders will let you kill file by the posters
handle-email address combo. This works well until one of the turds nymshifts
(e.g.. Hexenmeister). Even with Outlook Express it is pretty good at
shielding me from the dyed in the wool nutcases like Savain, Hanson, Osher
D, Min etc.
It never gets rid to the Einstein Hoax though... :-(
.
User: "Richard Herring"

Title: Re: Try to follow the bouncing ball. 18 Apr 2006 04:10:55 AM
In message <uIGdnagNYMa4AKPZRVny0A@pipex.net>, T Wake
<Usenet.es7AT@gishpuppy.com> writes


"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144953630.703284.45990@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


Sam Wormley wrote:

Eric Gisse wrote:


As I said, my posts follow a certain pattern. If you have a learning
disability and can't make the logical connection of "stupid relf post
--- > eric gisse telling him to shut the ***** up", then too bad.

Your posts aren't that much better, anyway. Get off the soapbox.


They are wearing rather thin... perhap you could just stick Relf
in your kill file. Out of sight--out of mind.


Argh. I tried.

I might have to drop Google and find not only a client that can
killfile a person, but every thread he starts. Other people never
bothered me - I can just ignore them, but Relf has to start new threads
with his horrible, horrible NTTP client every time he posts.


What OS do you use? Most newsreaders will let you kill file by the posters
handle-email address combo. This works well until one of the turds nymshifts
(e.g.. Hexenmeister). Even with Outlook Express it is pretty good at
shielding me from the dyed in the wool nutcases like Savain, Hanson, Osher
D, Min etc.

It never gets rid to the Einstein Hoax though... :-(

Wittke's subject lines are sufficiently distinctive (and few) that they
are easily filtered by eye if your news client can't match regular
expressions.
--
Richard Herring
.











User: "Eric Gisse"

Title: Re: Eric_Gisse and T_Wake follow me around like toothless mad dogs. 09 Apr 2006 06:21:51 AM
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