Science > Physics > Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books?
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"Deuteros" |
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01 Oct 2005 09:02:43 AM |
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Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn that the
Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers cease
their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his assessment of
the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the crowds, did
he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck no!
Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and cosine
of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people should
do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a healthy
fear of Caesar.
As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not need
calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really a
Christian school you will not teach math at all.
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:43:59 AM |
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"Deuteros" <deuteros@xrs.net> wrote in message
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|I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity
| might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text
is
| rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is
still
| some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn that
the
| Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
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| 1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers
cease
| their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his
assessment of
| the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
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| 2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the
crowds, did
| he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck
no!
| Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
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| 3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and
cosine
| of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people
should
| do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a
healthy
| fear of Caesar.
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| As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not need
| calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really a
| Christian school you will not teach math at all.
God made integers, all else is the work of man. When I trim my toenails
I have 9.857254344333 toes left, everyone knows that. Pizza can be
divided
without pi but not without pie.
Why didn't the crowd bring their own lunch from Long John Silvers?
I'll tell ya... they thought they'd see the water-into-wine stunt again,
and
it was gonna be a booze-up. What a let down, the whole show was just
a guy on skis walking on water behind Pete's bass and walleye skiff
with a lake speed limit of 10 mph to prevent wake. So they went to sleep
and forgot the fish sandwiches.
Androcles.
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| User: "David Kastrup" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:21:41 AM |
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Deuteros <deuteros@xrs.net> writes:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity might not be the right choice for Christian
schools. Even if the text is rewritten to be more consistent with
the teachings of Christ, there is still some concern. In fact, if we
turn to the New Testament, we learn that the Lord actually saw
little need for subjects such as math:
1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers
cease their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his
assessment of the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did
it.
Well, just because Jesus had to take the help of his father for
managing this subject, does not mean that the subject is not worth
managing.
In fact, it appears that the Lord was so unhappy with his son's
progress in mathematical subjects, that he clearly and repeatedly
threatened remedial lessons (there will be a day of reckoning!").
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the
crowds, did he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was
needed? Heck no! Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
Did a pretty bad job, judging from the excessive amount of leftovers.
3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and
cosine of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what
people should do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense,
coupled with a healthy fear of Caesar.
As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not
need calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are
really a Christian school you will not teach math at all.
You forgot
4. Jesus did not troll around on Usenet.
Better take that as your role model.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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| User: "Jim Spriggs" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
02 Oct 2005 04:21:30 PM |
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Deuteros wrote:
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the crowds, did
he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck no!
Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
Producing, from five loaves and two fishes, enough food to feed five
thousand was the first (and, so far, only ?) application of the
Banach-Tarski "paradox".
God, at leaast, knows that the Axiom of Choice is true.
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I don't know who you are Sir, or where you come from,
but you've done me a power of good.
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| User: "Proginoskes" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
02 Oct 2005 06:59:39 PM |
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Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
--- Christopher Heckman
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| User: "Gregory L. Hansen" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
02 Oct 2005 08:27:39 PM |
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In article <1128297579.220457.16930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Proginoskes <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
--- Christopher Heckman
He would give to x what belongs to x.
--
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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| User: "William Elliot" |
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02 Oct 2005 10:02:25 PM |
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
Proginoskes <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity might not be the right choice for Christian schools.
Even if the text is rewritten to be more consistent with the
teachings of Christ, there is still some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
What Would Jesus Do?
He would give to x what belongs to x.
Did Jesus ever count?
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| User: "cactus" |
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02 Oct 2005 10:48:46 PM |
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William Elliot wrote:
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
Proginoskes <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity might not be the right choice for Christian schools.
Even if the text is rewritten to be more consistent with the
teachings of Christ, there is still some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
What Would Jesus Do?
He would give to x what belongs to x.
Did Jesus ever count?
In his day it was considered bad luck to count. Probably he would have
completed the square because the quadratic formula was not known at the
time outside of India (if there). He also would not have factored
because he was a carpenter, not a moneylender.
That really limits the mathematical options for Christians.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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03 Oct 2005 12:14:51 AM |
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On 2 Oct 2005 16:59:39 -0700, "Proginoskes"
<CCHeckman@gmail.com> spake thusly:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
I don't see the problem here. A math book is about
math and whether you use three apples or three Roman
guards, the math is the same, so I think it's a foolish
attack.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
1st Century Church of Christ
"All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected,
thoroughly furnished to every good work." 2 Tim 3:16-17
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
03 Oct 2005 04:53:42 AM |
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In article <7gf1k1lvn78n3tg2tdfnjjjd5kg41pihhj@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On 2 Oct 2005 16:59:39 -0700, "Proginoskes"
<CCHeckman@gmail.com> spake thusly:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is
still
some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
I don't see the problem here. A math book is about
math and whether you use three apples or three Roman
guards, the math is the same, so I think it's a foolish
attack.
Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke. Gregory's use of
that quote had a deeper meaning which you seem to have
ignored.
/BAH
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| User: "Proginoskes" |
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03 Oct 2005 05:37:57 PM |
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Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
On the other hand, Discordians have turned their joke into a religion.
--- Christopher Heckman
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| User: "" |
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04 Oct 2005 06:31:20 AM |
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In article <1128379077.747864.43840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
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Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
On the other hand, Discordians have turned their joke into a religion.
I am not talking about anything else.
/BAH
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| User: "platopes" |
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21 Oct 2005 02:00:57 AM |
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In article <1128379077.747864.43840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> wrote:
wrote:
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Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
On the other hand, Discordians have turned their joke into a religion.
I am not talking about anything else.
/BAH
An hilarious thread and educational to boot. However, if you happen
to be posting from the U.S. -
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/beliefnet_poll_010718.html
My sympathies to all non-infected Americans, and watch your back.
Call me ever-so-slightly paranoid, but I fear these creepy folks may
just *take us down*, because they can be quite violent, as we all know.
p
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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03 Oct 2005 03:50:31 PM |
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On Mon, 03 Oct 05 09:53:42 GMT, spake
thusly:
I don't see the problem here. A math book is about
math and whether you use three apples or three Roman
guards, the math is the same, so I think it's a foolish
attack.
Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
Point 1) Then all people are guilty of that, since they
all use objects.
Point 2) You're statement is like saying that
Christians turn art into a joke, because their
houses have Christian art in them.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
1st Century Church of Christ
"All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected,
thoroughly furnished to every good work." 2 Tim 3:16-17
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| User: "" |
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04 Oct 2005 06:30:13 AM |
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In article <ha63k1tvbdahq79cu63ml248qm6jek3r99@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 05 09:53:42 GMT, spake
thusly:
I don't see the problem here. A math book is about
math and whether you use three apples or three Roman
guards, the math is the same, so I think it's a foolish
attack.
Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
Point 1) Then all people are guilty of that, since they
all use objects.
You missed my point. Even more importantly, you missed
Gregory's point.
Point 2) You're statement is like saying that
Christians turn art into a joke, because their
houses have Christian art in them.
Nope. My post doesn't imply that at all.
/BAH
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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17 Oct 2005 10:28:34 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 05 09:53:42 GMT, spake
thusly:
I don't see the problem here. A math book is about
math and whether you use three apples or three Roman
guards, the math is the same, so I think it's a foolish
attack.
Thus, in their zeal to insist that everything taught
have a Christain slant to it, these so-called Christians
turn their religion into a joke.
Point 1) Then all people are guilty of that, since they
all use objects.
Point 2) You're statement is like saying that
Christians turn art into a joke, because their
houses have Christian art in them.
Heh, I say that Christians turn language and literacy into a joke, with
their common problems like "You're statement".
"All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected,
thoroughly furnished to every good work." 2 Tim 3:16-17
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/7d354261845f88aa/0475c05be2e5519d#0475c05be2e5519d
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/7d354261845f88aa/b4a8fc57776e7096#b4a8fc57776e7096
Jesus did things to children and admitted that he was not good: Matt
19:13-15,17; Mark 10:13-16,18. :D
-Aut
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| User: "Proginoskes" |
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20 Oct 2005 08:43:53 PM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
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Jesus did things to children and admitted that he was not good: Matt
19:13-15,17; Mark 10:13-16,18. :D
Oh, yes. And he said that any follower of his had to abandon their
family. Don't know the chapter & verse right off, though.
The Bible is full of things like that. Like Lot, a "virtuous" man who
offered his virgin daughters to a crowd so that they would leave him
alone.
And the two, count 'em, two incompatible creation stories in Genesis.
There's one where Adam and Eve were created at the same time, and they
were told to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. And then the
Sunday School one.
--- Christopher Heckman
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| User: "David Kastrup" |
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21 Oct 2005 01:33:38 AM |
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"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> writes:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
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Jesus did things to children and admitted that he was not good: Matt
19:13-15,17; Mark 10:13-16,18. :D
Oh, yes. And he said that any follower of his had to abandon their
family. Don't know the chapter & verse right off, though.
The Bible is full of things like that. Like Lot, a "virtuous" man who
offered his virgin daughters to a crowd so that they would leave him
alone.
Uh no. So that they would refrain from sodomizing his guests. Guests
were holy (in this case for real).
You may be thinking of Judges (IIRC) where a man gives out his
mistress to a crowd wanting to bugger him, and she gets killed
eventually. He gets really craky about that, cuts her in pieces and
sends those around as evidence.
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David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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21 Oct 2005 11:52:04 AM |
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David Kastrup wrote:
"Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com> writes:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
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Jesus did things to children and admitted that he was not good: Matt
19:13-15,17; Mark 10:13-16,18. :D
Oh, yes. And he said that any follower of his had to abandon their
family. Don't know the chapter & verse right off, though.
The Bible is full of things like that. Like Lot, a "virtuous" man who
offered his virgin daughters to a crowd so that they would leave him
alone.
Uh no. So that they would refrain from sodomizing his guests. Guests
were holy (in this case for real).
You may be thinking of Judges (IIRC) where a man gives out his
mistress to a crowd wanting to bugger him, and she gets killed
eventually. He gets really craky about that, cuts her in pieces and
sends those around as evidence.
<http://www.thebricktestament.com/judges/gang_rape_and_dismemberment/jg19_01.html>
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David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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20 Oct 2005 10:23:15 PM |
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Proginoskes wrote:
Oh, yes. And he said that any follower of his had to abandon their
family. Don't know the chapter & verse right off, though.
He also said that everyone must hate one's children and mate when it's
time to follow him, or something. And Christians claim that the world
[of flesh and sin, whatever] is to be hated, with dozens of passages
supporting it even, even when God is allowed to love the world: John
3:16, obviously, and all the "good" mentions of the world in Gene.
Their beliefs are full of the ***** they hate.
The Bible is full of things like that. Like Lot, a "virtuous" man who
offered his virgin daughters to a crowd so that they would leave him
alone.
They repaid him by having sex with him so they could repopulate. Then
again, Adam and Eve's children also committed incest to start the human
race, whether or not there were girls that went unnamed. Creationism:
Humans are inbreds foreflood and hindflood. Evolutionism: Humans are
plenty and diverse already, having had more land and history, so they
don't need to inbreed. The Amish couldn't deal with the world--they
must be on Canaan time.
And the two, count 'em, two incompatible creation stories in Genesis.
There's one where Adam and Eve were created at the same time, and they
were told to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. And then the
Sunday School one.
I'm not so sure about those; they could've backtracked or omitted.
-Aut
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| User: "quasi" |
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02 Oct 2005 10:18:51 PM |
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On 2 Oct 2005 16:59:39 -0700, "Proginoskes" <CCHeckman@gmail.com>
wrote:
Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern.
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
--- Christopher Heckman
He probably wouldn't need a method -- he'd just produce the solutions,
however if he had to choose one of the 3 methods, my guess is he'd go
with the quadratic formula since Jesus was certainly a radical sort of
guy.
quasi
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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03 Oct 2005 12:15:30 AM |
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:18:51 -0700, quasi
<quasi@null.set> spake thusly:
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
--- Christopher Heckman
He probably wouldn't need a method -- he'd just produce the solutions,
however if he had to choose one of the 3 methods, my guess is he'd go
with the quadratic formula since Jesus was certainly a radical sort of
guy.
True enough. <laugh> :)
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
1st Century Church of Christ
"All Scripture is God-breathed, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction
in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfected,
thoroughly furnished to every good work." 2 Tim 3:16-17
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| User: "mountain man" |
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03 Oct 2005 04:18:04 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <1news-group-mail1@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qif1k1pngn13lo14pfvgone30qoamgo85p@4ax.com...
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 20:18:51 -0700, quasi
<quasi@null.set> spake thusly:
Example. Solve the equation x^2 - 3 x + 2 = 0.
You can do this by factoring, completing the square, or using the
quadratic formula.
What Would Jesus Do?
--- Christopher Heckman
He probably wouldn't need a method -- he'd just produce the solutions,
however if he had to choose one of the 3 methods, my guess is he'd go
with the quadratic formula since Jesus was certainly a radical sort of
guy.
True enough. <laugh> :)
It is also quite possible that he was an imaginary number
dreamt up between Constantine and his stable sweeping
bishop Eusebius, first archivalist of the church fathers and
prime suspect for the Josephus interpolation.
--
Pete Brown
Falls Creek
OZ
www.mountainman.com.au
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| User: "Tom Peel" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:12:16 AM |
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Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn that the
Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers cease
their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his assessment of
the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the crowds, did
he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck no!
Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and cosine
of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people should
do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a healthy
fear of Caesar.
As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not need
calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really a
Christian school you will not teach math at all.
One of the obvious problems with mathematics is that it has been used by
astronomers to calculate the age of the universe as being several
billion years. We know for a biblical fact, however that the world is
only 5,400 years old, so therefore mathematics must be fundamentally
wrong, and should not be taught in schools. ;=))
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| User: "Androcles Androcles@ MyPlace.org" |
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01 Oct 2005 09:49:01 AM |
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"Tom Peel" <notreallytandp@freenet.de> wrote in message
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| Deuteros wrote:
| > I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with
Christianity
| > might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the
text is
| > rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there
is still
| > some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn
that the
| > Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
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| > 1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers
cease
| > their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his
assessment of
| > the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
| >
| > 2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the
crowds, did
| > he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed?
Heck no!
| > Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
| >
| > 3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and
cosine
| > of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people
should
| > do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a
healthy
| > fear of Caesar.
| >
| > As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not
need
| > calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really
a
| > Christian school you will not teach math at all.
|
| One of the obvious problems with mathematics is that it has been used
by
| astronomers to calculate the age of the universe as being several
| billion years. We know for a biblical fact, however that the world is
| only 5,400 years old, so therefore mathematics must be fundamentally
| wrong, and should not be taught in schools. ;=))
Sheesh...
2005AD - 4004BC = -2000 without a year zero, time runs backwards.
That's the real reason we should not teach math in schools, cos its
starts an argument about 5,400 and -2000. Put up yer dukes :-)
Androcles
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:27:47 AM |
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Deuteros wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn that the
Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers cease
their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his assessment of
the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the crowds, did
he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck no!
Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and cosine
of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people should
do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a healthy
fear of Caesar.
As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not need
calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really a
Christian school you will not teach math at all.
You have the right idea but your examples are lame.
Mathematics, like kabbah, astrology, tarot cards, etc. is
just a form of divination and thus, is a tool of the Devil.
When the heretic Christian schools finally wake up and
realize this, they will, of course, drop mathematics like
a live grenade.
Thank God we have a president who's agenda is to remove
all anti-Christian teachings from our schools!
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| User: "Autymn D. C." |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
17 Oct 2005 09:49:06 PM |
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who's -> whose
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
17 Oct 2005 11:39:34 PM |
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Autymn D. C. wrote:
who's -> whose
So how come you didn't point out the ironic misspelling
of kabbala?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
20 Oct 2005 06:45:58 PM |
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mensanator@aol.compost wrote:
Autymn D. C. wrote:
who's -> whose
So how come you didn't point out the ironic misspelling
of kabbala?
Because you did.
-Aut
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| User: "Robert Low" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:11:49 AM |
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Deuteros wrote:
yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah.
Registered 1 out of 10 on my patented Usenet troll-o-meter.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:48:00 AM |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:11:49 +0100, in alt.atheism , Robert Low
<mtx014@coventry.ac.uk> in <3q7jmkFd9238U3@individual.net> wrote:
Deuteros wrote:
yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah.
Registered 1 out of 10 on my patented Usenet troll-o-meter.
Thanks a lot. It is people like you who drive up the prices of
troll-o-meters for the rest of us. Information wants to be free! We
need open source troll-o-meters. Use GPL!
(Gad, I hope no one thinks I am joking.)
--
Matt Silberstein
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Why do Christian schools have religious themed math books? |
01 Oct 2005 09:51:24 AM |
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:02:43 -0400, in alt.atheism , Deuteros
<deuteros@xrs.net> in <dgp9r2hf1c1w.dlg@sec12-crow.ultima.com> wrote:
I feel that Christian schools using math books intertwined with Christianity
might not be the right choice for Christian schools. Even if the text is
rewritten to be more consistent with the teachings of Christ, there is still
some concern. In fact, if we turn to the New Testament, we learn that the
Lord actually saw little need for subjects such as math:
1. When Jesus was in the temple and demanded that the money changers cease
their questionable activities, did he use pre-calculus in his assessment of
the goings-on? No! God told him what to do and he did it.
2. When Jesus needed to multiply the loaves and fish to feed the crowds, did
he calculate a derivative to determine how much food was needed? Heck no!
Jesus used his fingers and toes to count heads.
3. When Jesus was giving advice about taxes, did he use the sine and cosine
of the angle between the floor and the wall to determine what people should
do? No, he did not. Jesus used his own common sense, coupled with a healthy
fear of Caesar.
As you can see from just these three examples, Christians do not need
calculus, nor even its predecessor, pre-calculus. If you are really a
Christian school you will not teach math at all.
Folks, the proper way to deal with trolls is to treat them as serious.
Or simply ridicule them, the middle way does not work.
So, Deutreros, the reason they use Christian themed math books is in
order to have a full rounded cross-discipline curriculum. They do this
for the same reason that secular schools use whole math and try to use
relevant material in math books and such. It is a proper part of high
quality teaching material.
Your claims about Jesus not needing or using math are empty. If you
have a real argument show it.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
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http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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http://www.savedarfur.org/
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