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"Mitchell" |
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29 Oct 2004 12:41:30 AM |
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Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
Where is the universe?
The reason a multiverse is imagined by science is it can't accept God.
If science were to see that there is only one universe it would then
have to see God.
Once we ask the question: what is outside the universe?
science is left to explain it by saying: well there's
more universes filling infinity; when there is not. There is only one.
Just as a monotheist believes in One God I propose One universe also.
God is in the universe and the universe is in God. That's where
the universe is.
All science has to do is to realize that we are it.
We are the very meaning scientists would project out onto a multiverse.
If there is only one universe with nothing outside then
we are left to face God with no way around it.
There is no multiverse. And all the meaning is inside of us.
Mitch Raemsch
== Light Falls ==
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| User: "mitch perkins" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
30 Oct 2004 07:58:07 PM |
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(Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0410282141.55b8daf3@posting.google.com>...
Where is the universe?
It's over there.
The reason a multiverse is imagined by science is it can't accept God.
That's because he never brings the proper ID.
If science were to see that there is only one universe it would then
have to see God.
Hey! You're wrong! "Multiverses" isn't the only theory!
Once we ask the question: what is outside the universe?
science is left to explain it by saying: well there's
more universes filling infinity; when there is not. There is only one.
Another theory is: nothing.
Just as a monotheist believes in One God I propose One universe also.
I propose the "internal combustion engine". Let's you and I throw a
party!
God is in the universe and the universe is in God. That's where
the universe is.
So where is that? It's over there!
All science has to do is to realize that we are it.
We are the very meaning scientists would project out onto a multiverse.
I know *you* are, but what am I?
If there is only one universe with nothing outside then
we are left to face God with no way around it.
Nuh-uh! I don't believe in multiverses, *and* I don't believe in
god. Raemsch-theory falsified.
There is no multiverse.
Have you convinced yourself yet?
And all the meaning is inside of us.
You may have a point there, and I don't need god to agree with you.
Mitch
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
31 Oct 2004 12:24:59 PM |
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(Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0410282141.55b8daf3@posting.google.com>...
[snip]
Are you still posting?
1) Stop posting political threads. You aren't old enough to vote, and
this is the wrong forum.
2) Stop posting religious threads. You don't have a fucking clue, and
nobody here cares to debate it with you - because this is sci.physics
and you don't have a fucking clue.
3) Stop posting physics threads. You don't have a fucking clue.
So, to sum it up, stop posting here. Would it help if I forwarded this
message to you every time you posted in here?
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| User: "Mitchell" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
31 Oct 2004 09:56:41 PM |
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(Eric Gisse) wrote in message news:<fd0fc2fa.0410311024.33dc46b2@posting.google.com>...
macromitch@internetCDS.com (Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0410282141.55b8daf3@posting.google.com>...
[snip]
Are you still posting?
1) Stop posting political threads. You aren't old enough to vote, and
this is the wrong forum.
2) Stop posting religious threads. You don't have a fucking clue, and
nobody here cares to debate it with you - because this is sci.physics
and you don't have a fucking clue.
3) Stop posting physics threads. You don't have a fucking clue.
So, to sum it up, stop posting here. Would it help if I forwarded this
message to you every time you posted in here?
What's that?
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
01 Nov 2004 03:49:29 AM |
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(Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0410311956.603cd0a@posting.google.com>...
fsegg@uaf.edu (Eric Gisse) wrote in message news:<fd0fc2fa.0410311024.33dc46b2@posting.google.com>...
(Mitchell) wrote in message news:<9c3da975.0410282141.55b8daf3@posting.google.com>...
[snip]
Are you still posting?
1) Stop posting political threads. You aren't old enough to vote, and
this is the wrong forum.
2) Stop posting religious threads. You don't have a fucking clue, and
nobody here cares to debate it with you - because this is sci.physics
and you don't have a fucking clue.
3) Stop posting physics threads. You don't have a fucking clue.
So, to sum it up, stop posting here. Would it help if I forwarded this
message to you every time you posted in here?
What's that?
1) Stop posting political threads. You aren't old enough to vote, and
this is the wrong forum.
2) Stop posting religious threads. You don't have a fucking clue, and
nobody here cares to debate it with you - because this is sci.physics
and you don't have a fucking clue.
3) Stop posting physics threads. You don't have a fucking clue.
So, to sum it up, stop posting here.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
01 Nov 2004 06:25:44 PM |
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eric ,,yer a fucking moron.
YOU have posted representing an EDU.
You will then conduct your self as representing the edu .
You can say any thing you want ,,but get rid of the EDU befor you do.
You don't know fucked till I ***** you.
Your stupid for one thing .
Yer wet behind the ears and best clean up your act befor I clean out
your desk.
Stop harrasing micheal ,,I suport God too...so ***** with me retard.
2nd ,,you cant do the math ya twitt.
I dont know how you are a grad but if you have 1/2 a brain you will
conduct your representation of the EDU just like they read evrything
,,,and they WILL !!!!!
I will garentee they will.
I will make shure they read it.
What kind of road raged teachers are in front of our poor kids ?????
What you say in here ,,will hurt your ***** latter.
thats the end of it ,,,,if yer smart.
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
02 Nov 2004 08:32:18 AM |
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(tj Frazir) wrote in message news:<27899-4186D408-373@storefull-3215.bay.webtv.net>...
Cranks are so fun in the morning when there is nothing to do.
eric ,,yer a fucking moron.
YOU have posted representing an EDU.
I do not represent this university in any capacity.
You will then conduct your self as representing the edu .
No. I conduct myself however I please.
You can say any thing you want ,,but get rid of the EDU befor you do.
You're right. I can, and will, say anything I want, and I will put it
in proper English when I do so.
You don't know fucked till I ***** you.
Your stupid for one thing .
"You're"
Yer wet behind the ears and best clean up your act befor I clean out
your desk.
I don't use my desk.
Stop harrasing micheal ,,I suport God too...so ***** with me retard.
I promise to not harass "micheal", whoever the hell that is. I doubt
god is happy that you are supporting him, because you are making him
look like a clueless idiot.
2nd ,,you cant do the math ya twitt.
Yes, I can. If not now, eventually.
I dont know how you are a grad but if you have 1/2 a brain you will
conduct your representation of the EDU just like they read evrything
,,,and they WILL !!!!!
No, they don't.
I will garentee they will.
I will make shure they read it.
The sure sign of a crank is when the cranks take their frustrations on
a person out to meatspace. Go ahead, make "shure" they read what I
write - do you honestly think anyone cares about a clueless idiot on
webtv who cannot spell to save his life?
What kind of road raged teachers are in front of our poor kids ?????
What you say in here ,,will hurt your ***** latter.
thats the end of it ,,,,if yer smart.
If you are smart, you will take a course or three in english so you
can make a reply without sounding like the clueless idiot that you
obviously are.
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| User: "Mitchell" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
02 Nov 2004 04:54:57 PM |
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(Eric Gisse) wrote in message news:<fd0fc2fa.0411020632.635106b8@posting.google.com>...
GravityPhysics@webtv.net (tj Frazir) wrote in message news:<27899-4186D408-373@storefull-3215.bay.webtv.net>...
Cranks are so fun in the morning when there is nothing to do.
eric ,,yer a fucking moron.
YOU have posted representing an EDU.
I do not represent this university in any capacity.
You will then conduct your self as representing the edu .
No. I conduct myself however I please.
You can say any thing you want ,,but get rid of the EDU befor you do.
You're right. I can, and will, say anything I want, and I will put it
in proper English when I do so.
You don't know fucked till I ***** you.
Your stupid for one thing .
"You're"
Yer wet behind the ears and best clean up your act befor I clean out
your desk.
I don't use my desk.
Stop harrasing micheal ,,I suport God too...so ***** with me retard.
I promise to not harass "micheal", whoever the hell that is. I doubt
god is happy that you are supporting him, because you are making him
look like a clueless idiot.
2nd ,,you cant do the math ya twitt.
Yes, I can. If not now, eventually.
I dont know how you are a grad but if you have 1/2 a brain you will
conduct your representation of the EDU just like they read evrything
,,,and they WILL !!!!!
No, they don't.
I will garentee they will.
I will make shure they read it.
The sure sign of a crank is when the cranks take their frustrations on
a person out to meatspace. Go ahead, make "shure" they read what I
write - do you honestly think anyone cares about a clueless idiot on
webtv who cannot spell to save his life?
What kind of road raged teachers are in front of our poor kids ?????
What you say in here ,,will hurt your ***** latter.
thats the end of it ,,,,if yer smart.
If you are smart, you will take a course or three in english so you
can make a reply without sounding like the clueless idiot that you
obviously are.
You've been institutionalized by the education system Eric.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
02 Nov 2004 09:19:47 PM |
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Webtv. Thats got nothing to do with Gravity.
Im an alskan rushian indian . 6 years of non formal english ....but 40
years of math MOE.
87 inventions. all very important inventions.
Im the only one on the planet that builds liquid piston sliding vane 2
cycle thermal ballanced engines. 138 hp at 516 mpg.
12 cape size ships. 3 million acres of forest.
Your ignorant arogant additude about what lang I speek or what I
choose to post with is irrelivant. Ive busted nearly evryone on
physics in here .
Gravity is a push to less energy and identical to conservation. You
are still inside the big bang that pushes out on the universe.
As the universe expands , matter dont so a low forms around mass.
Befor you leave fairbanks edu I will have kicked the arogance out of
you.
besides youll want a job on one of my ships or somthing I controle. The
giant indian at the ege of town looks like me !
The face on the tail of the plane you flew in on looks just like me.
I have a phd in math and physics and geo.
Im a shipmaster cape class over 150,000 tons.
My personal icebreaker is 14000 tons and my home.
webtv is just for this ng . its not realy a webtv .
its a smith corona ,,I built it in 82.
on my first ship that I put 12000 bucks down on and hauled logs I cut
and loaded my self.
That was more than a few billion bucks ago.
nexfor fraser
posted via Global star.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
02 Nov 2004 02:21:50 PM |
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Im not suporting miachel.
I suport fairbanks ,,Im alaskan .
Your a student . A green one a that.
I hope your studding fisheries.
That or forest. mining.
The games all in your head. You wount tax my intelect trust me on that
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Or mike will come down there and spanck you !!
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
03 Nov 2004 01:21:16 AM |
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(tj Frazir) wrote in message news:<7173-4187EC5E-440@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>...
Im not suporting miachel.
I suport fairbanks ,,Im alaskan .
Your a student . A green one a that.
I hope your studding fisheries.
That or forest. mining.
The games all in your head. You wount tax my intelect trust me on that
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Or mike will come down there and spanck you !!
I cannot wound what is not there.
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| User: "Mitchell" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
03 Nov 2004 01:19:20 PM |
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(Eric Gisse) wrote in message news:<fd0fc2fa.0411022321.68a97746@posting.google.com>...
GravityPhysics@webtv.net (tj Frazir) wrote in message news:<7173-4187EC5E-440@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>...
Im not suporting miachel.
I suport fairbanks ,,Im alaskan .
Your a student . A green one a that.
I hope your studding fisheries.
That or forest. mining.
The games all in your head. You wount tax my intelect trust me on that
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Or mike will come down there and spanck you !!
I cannot wound what is not there.
I am nobody.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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03 Nov 2004 09:32:18 PM |
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You can bet your ***** Ill be at fairbanks befor th winter is over. Evry
winder I do north pole.
Ask around ,,,a giant indian 8 feet tall 500 pounds ,,Im a lagend back
home.
I ripped hides off bears to stay warm as a kid.
sailed a 15 foot wooden open sail boat to ussr at 15 years old. My dad
never came back from the sea and I lived in the great alone by my self.
I walked on the wings of the black bird.
Im the alaskan windwalker.
Spent my life at sea roaming the planet.
Kodiak runs the other way.
I walked to katmia from denali range.
Mikes the dean ,,,I think.
Now ,,are you fisheries or forest ???
Ever run a saw mill ??
What are your grad job prospects ??
west fraser nexfor fraser port fraser fraser yards TJMAX TTJ Global.
Evegreen.
Fraser fir .
TJ Fraser.
5 countries . 3 million acres.
1 billion woodproducts year.
You must be from some place else if you dont know who I am . deep 6
the pig iron in anchorage feb . Allmost ready to leave st lawrence bay
east coast canada brunswick..
stop in seattle Vancouver then Juno then anchorage . Then fly up to the
house at north pole . Im not realy ever mad at anyone ,,
I keep the crew alive.
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| User: "tj Frazir" |
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02 Nov 2004 01:58:33 PM |
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Then well see how that edu handles it.
They might not let you use the pc then.
Now with thier edu in your name.
You do represent that edu.
Ill just mail it all to them and see what they do with you then.
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| User: "DAH" |
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29 Oct 2004 08:25:10 AM |
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I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about the multi-universes concept or
a mirror-matter partner universe, but I do expect that an antiuniverse
does exist, because the usual description of the preponderance of
matter over antimatter during the inflationary period seems
contrived, lame.
DAH 10/29/04
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Posted at:
www.GroupSrv.com
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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29 Oct 2004 10:42:42 AM |
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Mitchell wrote:
Where is the universe?
[snip crap]
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg
have a look
Spewing boring idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf
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| User: "Bob Cain" |
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| Title: Re: Why Scientists don't believe in one universe |
29 Oct 2004 02:03:36 AM |
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Mitchell wrote:
Where is the universe?
The reason a multiverse is imagined by science is it can't accept God.
I dunno. If I was God that's exactly how I'd do it. I'd
want to know everything that can possibly evolve from some
initial state. Then I'd try another one tomorrow and the
next day and the next until something interesting happened.
Being God sounds terribly boring to me and what better way
to while away all that time than to play.
Bob
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"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein
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