Science > Physics > WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ????
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29 Sep 2006 10:34:31 AM |
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WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
The cutter charges are explosives, and diagonally placed on the support
pillars.
THE EXACT GOAL OF 9/11 was to create the APPEARANCE of a terrorist
operation and large death toll. Some people had to be sacrificed and
the ideological motive came from the training in skull and bones and
the Bohemian Grove that Alex Jones has so admirably exposed in a great
piece of investigative journalism and the full video is on
video.google.com and his sites www.prisonplanet.com and
www.infowars.com.
Although the building was demolished, intentionally with people inside,
the blame for demolition had to be put on the "terrorists" and a
plausible agent had to be found. The only plausible agent that could be
found was fire. It was well known that the impact of the plane could
not bring the buildings down. If fire had to be made the scapegoat, and
fire was not, thermite (a thermal agent) was to do its job secretly and
then put the blame on the jet fuel fire. They thought that the dynamics
of combustion and fire is complex enough that people will not be able
to figure it out that the uncontrolled fuel jet fire is as cold as ice
to melt the steel.
Thats why thermate was used to melt the steel and create the illusion
that it was the fuel jet fire. Unfortunately, this was their undoing as
thermate was a single piece of evidence that shows the inside job.
Someone had to plant it. Thermate evidence came clearly from the atoms
of potassium permanganate and sulfur in the molten metal using electron
microprobe and xray fluorescence.
Once our minds became free and we were on the right track of thinking,
we began to see even more.
(1) Dust and paper => explosives, ie shattering agent.
(2) Horizontal ejection velocity => an agent other than gravity.
(3) Demolition wave ahead of free fall => not just explosives but
synchronized explosives.
(4) WT7 without plane hitting => to reinforce the illusion of fire, but
it is a demolition
Who had the means, motive and opportunity ?
Marvin Bush ran the security firm.
There were power shutdowns to disable security cameras.
The detonation cables were laid down under the pretext of ethernet
cables. Were coaxials were used to synchronize explosions???
Bomb sniffing dogs were removed to prevent discovery.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
The gatekeeper robbed the bank. Most successful bank robberies involve
a conspiracy of inside job.
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29 Sep 2006 11:57:00 AM |
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<thermate@india.com> wrote in message
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A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
Idiot.
Illiterate idiot to boot.
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29 Sep 2006 04:28:46 PM |
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A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
The cutter charges are explosives, and diagonally placed on the support
pillars.
THE EXACT GOAL OF 9/11 was to create the APPEARANCE of a terrorist
operation and large death toll. Some people had to be sacrificed and
the ideological motive came from the training in skull and bones and
the Bohemian Grove that Alex Jones has so admirably exposed in a great
piece of investigative journalism and the full video is on
video.google.com and his sites www.prisonplanet.com and
www.infowars.com.
Right. And the planes crashing into the buildings were an optical illusion.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Dead Paul" |
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02 Oct 2006 02:09:15 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:28:46 -0500, Bob Kolker wrote:
thermate@india.com wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
The cutter charges are explosives, and diagonally placed on the support
pillars.
THE EXACT GOAL OF 9/11 was to create the APPEARANCE of a terrorist
operation and large death toll. Some people had to be sacrificed and the
ideological motive came from the training in skull and bones and the
Bohemian Grove that Alex Jones has so admirably exposed in a great piece
of investigative journalism and the full video is on video.google.com
and his sites www.prisonplanet.com and www.infowars.com.
Right. And the planes crashing into the buildings were an optical
illusion.
Why do you bother with such stupid and non-constructional "critiscism"?
Or maybe you have a very short attention span - he did not dispute that
aircraft collided into the buildings.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie" |
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03 Oct 2006 04:49:40 PM |
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:09:15 +0100, Dead Paul wrote:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:28:46 -0500, Bob Kolker wrote:
thermate@india.com wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
The cutter charges are explosives, and diagonally placed on the support
pillars.
THE EXACT GOAL OF 9/11 was to create the APPEARANCE of a terrorist
operation and large death toll. Some people had to be sacrificed and the
ideological motive came from the training in skull and bones and the
Bohemian Grove that Alex Jones has so admirably exposed in a great piece
of investigative journalism and the full video is on video.google.com
and his sites www.prisonplanet.com and www.infowars.com.
Right. And the planes crashing into the buildings were an optical
illusion.
Why do you bother with such stupid and non-constructional "critiscism"?
Or maybe you have a very short attention span - he did not dispute that
aircraft collided into the buildings.
I saw an edjamacashunal teevee show about the collapse of the towers.
They claimed that the entire structure was supported by the walls, which
were some sort of latticework - the guy referred to those trash cans
that are made of expanded metal, like a cylinder of screen on the bias.
The floors were an unobstructed acre of open space, except for the
elevator shafts. IOW, the only thing holding it up was the walls.
And then, on the very top of this, was all the elevator machinery,
the HVAC, maybe a cistern for the sprinklers - IOW, a lot of mass.
So when the fire made the beams give way, everything fell and the
impact of the falling crap knocked loose the next layer, and so on.
Or so they said.
That OK City job was kinda suspicious, too. >;->
Thanks,
Rich
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| User: "Jim Thompson" |
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29 Sep 2006 10:55:31 AM |
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On 29 Sep 2006 08:34:31 -0700, wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
[snip]
Hey spammer! Go the ***** away, or we'll seek you out and desecrate
your grave ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
29 Sep 2006 11:50:47 AM |
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TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
Mo/Dr Jai Maharaj do the spam, i have informative post
Jim Thompson wrote:
On 29 Sep 2006 08:34:31 -0700, wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
[snip]
Hey spammer! Go the ***** away, or we'll seek you out and desecrate
your grave ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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29 Sep 2006 12:17:02 PM |
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<> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On 29 Sep 2006 08:34:31 -0700, wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
[snip]
Hey spammer! Go the ***** away, or we'll seek you out and desecrate
your grave ;-)
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
Mo/Dr Jai Maharaj do the spam, i have informative post
(top posting corrected)
It didn't look like a death threat to me. It implied he would carry out the
action _after_ you were dead. Nothing there to imply he would kill you
first.
But, then again, the rest of your post looks like it was written by an idiot
so why should this one be any different.
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| User: "Michael A. Terrell" |
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29 Sep 2006 07:46:22 PM |
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TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
I would think that the last thing you would want to do is to let those
organizations know that you even exist. Its too late now, so you better
head for your underground bunker before their hit squads arrive to blow
up your shanty with handheld missiles.
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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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| User: "ehsjr" |
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29 Sep 2006 09:38:47 PM |
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wrote:
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
Death threat? No need. You are already
suffering from terminal stupidity.
Ed
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| User: "" |
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29 Sep 2006 12:26:27 PM |
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He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked, urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Eric Lucas
<> wrote in message
news:1159548646.037931.174780@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
TO, FBI and INTERPOL, ARREST THIS ***** FOR MAKING A DEATH THREAT !!!
Mo/Dr Jai Maharaj do the spam, i have informative post
Jim Thompson wrote:
On 29 Sep 2006 08:34:31 -0700, wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
[snip]
Hey spammer! Go the ***** away, or we'll seek you out and desecrate
your grave ;-)
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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| User: "malibu" |
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29 Sep 2006 02:18:14 PM |
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He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked, urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
John
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| User: "" |
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29 Sep 2006 06:45:45 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Eric Lucas
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| User: "malibu" |
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30 Sep 2006 11:10:47 AM |
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wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159557494.282824.145310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
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| User: "malibu" |
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30 Sep 2006 11:22:42 AM |
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wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159557494.282824.145310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
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| User: "" |
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30 Sep 2006 02:53:25 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159557494.282824.145310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in
most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
Wow, you've got such a hard-on over this that you had to reply three times
to the same post. Get over yourself!
Like I said, I'm not really in the mood for a wacko paranoid conspiracy
theory. But thanks anyway.
Eric Lucas
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| User: "malibu" |
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01 Oct 2006 12:49:51 PM |
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wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
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wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159557494.282824.145310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in
most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
Wow, you've got such a hard-on over this that you had to reply three times
to the same post. Get over yourself!
Like I said, I'm not really in the mood for a wacko paranoid conspiracy
theory. But thanks anyway.
Eric Lucas
not in the mood
ostrich.......head.......sand
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| User: "Bart Goddard" |
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| Title: Re: WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
30 Sep 2006 11:32:42 AM |
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Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories
today, thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
While you're looking things up, look up what airplanes
are made of. (Hint: Aluminum and magnesium. If you've
never seen magnesium burning, you've missed out on a
rare treat.)
B.
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The man without a .sig
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30 Sep 2006 02:57:08 PM |
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"Bart Goddard" <goddardbe@netscape.net> wrote in message
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vegan16@accesscomm.ca wrote:
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories
today, thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
While you're looking things up, look up what airplanes
are made of. (Hint: Aluminum and magnesium.
Well, generally, aluminum and titanium, but your point is correct.
If you've
never seen magnesium burning, you've missed out on a
rare treat.)
And titanium and aluminum are even more impressive. Those old Volkswagen
engine blocks were great, but every once in a while, one would catch fire.
When that happened, it was best to just get out and walk (very quickly)
away. If I recall correctly, the old Chevy Vega actually used to have a
magnesium block--I never heard of one of those catching fire, but I guess
they did occasionally.
Eric Lucas
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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30 Sep 2006 04:44:35 PM |
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If I recall correctly, the old Chevy Vega actually used to have a
magnesium block--I never heard of one of those catching fire, but I guess
they did occasionally.
No, Vega blocks were cast from an aluminum silicon alloy. After the
cylinders were bored, they were nitrided to produce an aluminum
silicon nitride coating. The rings totally wore out before a ten
thousandth of an inch wore off the cylinders. Then the piston skirts
scuffed the cylinders and great hunks of aluminum pulled out of the
cylinder walls, leaving big ruts in the pressure side. Then the
smoking commenced.
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| User: "Homer J Simpson" |
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30 Sep 2006 05:38:34 PM |
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"John Popelish" <jpopelish@rica.net> wrote in message
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No, Vega blocks were cast from an aluminum silicon alloy. After the
cylinders were bored, they were nitrided to produce an aluminum silicon
nitride coating. The rings totally wore out before a ten thousandth of an
inch wore off the cylinders. Then the piston skirts scuffed the cylinders
and great hunks of aluminum pulled out of the cylinder walls, leaving big
ruts in the pressure side. Then the smoking commenced.
Who was smoking? The mechanics that got to rebuild them?
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| User: "Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" |
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30 Sep 2006 12:52:52 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:22:42 -0700, malibu wrote:
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, better look in a dictionary, maybe, at least, before
accusing someone of spelling something wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
Cheers!
Rich
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| User: "Bob Kolker" |
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30 Sep 2006 02:04:19 PM |
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
If you read the article carefully you will see thermate is used
primarily for flash-bang grendes. It is not the kind of explosive one
would you for deconstructing a tall building.
Bob Kolker
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30 Sep 2006 03:07:09 PM |
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"Bob Kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
If you read the article carefully you will see thermate is used primarily
for flash-bang grendes. It is not the kind of explosive one would you for
deconstructing a tall building.
True. Also, thermite would work perfectly well, and being composed of
essentially Al and Fe2O3, would be essentially indistinguishable from the
materials that would be present after a simple aircraft-in-a-skyscraper
fire. What moron trying to fake a simple aircraft fire would add Ba(NO3)2
and sulfur, and make it easy to tell the difference? Better yet, what moron
would try to cover his spelling mistake by implying that some other moron
would add barium?
Eric Lucas
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| Title: Re: WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
30 Sep 2006 11:47:31 PM |
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so, anyway, we have herein the general solution to the problem,
of why Usama was supposedly surprized at the overall effect,
even after all his years of construction in Afghanistan,
the Canonical British Quagy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
True. Also, thermite would work perfectly well, and being composed of
essentially Al and Fe2O3, would be essentially indistinguishable from the
materials that would be present after a simple aircraft-in-a-skyscraper
fire. What moron trying to fake a simple aircraft fire would add Ba(NO3)2
and sulfur, and make it easy to tell the difference? Better yet, what moron
would try to cover his spelling mistake by implying that some other moron
would add barium?
thus:
Possibly, you noticed that Smolin is "enthusiastic"
about ST, in spite of your alleged problems with it,
as a "physics raconteur" with a "better Theory of Nothing"
(which, as far as I'm concerned, is a rather loose and
metaphorical reification of the Department of Einsteinmania,
The Musical ... you should have your own chapter
in the book !-)
everyone in the early parts of your epistolary cut-and-paste job agrees
that "perturbative theories" are not as direct as non-, so
whether or not this Motl guy was successful, is the question;
any opinion on that?
anyway, ST's just a reformulation in "higher dimensions,"
which are certainly well-accepted in mathematical physics,
going way back to Hamiltonian and Lagrangian phase-spaces
(spacetimes .-)
http://physicsmathforums.com
thus:
oops, I'd put the wrong URL in my sig, because
of the "W05" in two of them (well,
the other article is good, two). I want to quote
from the PDF -- I will!...
I discovered this construction while contemplating
a fragment from Diophantus' lost work "On Polygonal
Numbers," which describes a proposition
by the classical Greek geometer Hypsicles:
"There has also been proved what was stated
by Hypsicles in a definition, namely, that 'if
there be as many numbers as we please beginning
from 1 and increasing by the same common difference ...'"
--it takes some to jitterbug!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/Keplerian.W05.pdf
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2006/3322_ethanol_no_science.html
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
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18 Oct 2006 04:58:47 PM |
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Morons Synonymous?
materials that would be present after a simple aircraft-in-a-skyscraper
fire. What moron trying to fake a simple aircraft fire would add Ba(NO3)2
and sulfur, and make it easy to tell the difference? Better yet, what moron
would try to cover his spelling mistake by implying that some other moron
would add barium?
thus:
what do you mean by "only 3 weeks notice;"
isn't that enough notice for a business to contract-out
for some "transaction-servers?"
I liked the example of emergency oxygen,
yet another of how the biggest bombs ever used
against the tallest (*balanced load*) structures on Earth,
might cause a "demolition." please note, however, that
Usama is reputed to have been surprized at the total collapse,
with all of his construction experience in Afghanistan and Arabia ...
was he merely aiming for that Cantor group in the one tower, and
some other "Jewish organization" in the other?
what I'm saying is that a bit of more work has to be done,
to get all of the energetics ironed-out;
not that there wasn't more than enough energy in those planes,
as compared with a typical, permitted demo.
this is what they call a new problem, totally incomparable
to "fires in skyscrapers never did that!"
#2: There was a full power-down (including generators) over the entire
building for a full weekend near 9/11. This was of particular distress
to a banking tenant as they had to shutdown their transaction servers.
The notice was given only 3 weeks in advance, which is in itself highly
unusual.
The pieces of melted steel can be explained by reasoning that the
airplanes carried emergency breathing oxygen, and those oxygen
tanks probably spewed pure oxygen onto some of the structural
steel that was laying in a pool of JP8 fuel. This oxygen enriched
combustion could reach temperature well above the melting point
of steel.
One needs not consider the geometric or material composition of the
structure and/or collapse to deduce that a controlled demolition
occured. One needs only to observe the freefalling kinematics,
understanding that the top floors must've had no resistance as they
descended to the ground, meaning only one thing.
thus:
I don't think that you can analyze the in/finitude
of space with Coxeter groups, so,
I propose an alternate title:
The Fifth Suit: the Queen of Infinite Mirrors.
you know, like in Gauss's "the queen of the sciences,"
hyuk-hyuk?
anyway, I'm entitled to make one such silly joke, since
he brushed me off when I phoned him from SMC,
at his home in Toronto, to tell him about tetrahedronometry.
he said, You're thinking of the "polygonometry"
of Petre Schoute. well, no cigar, or struts, in that!
King of Infinite Space: Donald Coxeter, the Man Who Saved Geometry
thus:
dually, isn't that a "Hamiltonian path"
amongst all teh vertices of an icosahedron,
along the edges?...
Hamilton's original such problem was to do it
amongst the 20 vertices of the dodecah.;
thus, "icosasteron."
thus:
note the figure at the end of the paper,
which resolves the puzzle of a "simple ... 6-tendon" tenseg.,
instead of nine!...
it'll take me a while to digest the math,
without that enormous "Eight-of-Nine" wolramiteware, I imagine.
http://www.freewebtown.com/randome/k.a.lazopoulos.tensegrity.doc
thus:
References
Fuller, R. B. (1961) "Tensegrity" Portfolio Artnews Annual 4: 112-127
Connelly, R., Back, A. (1998) "Mathematics and tensegrity" Am.
Scientist
86: 142-151
thus:
funny you should mention The Wheel; unfortunately,
for those of us interested in preinventing it,
_The Bicycle Wheel_ was taken offline & put back in print,
maybe because of our dyscussion of it,
on a Bucky Fuller listserver. anyway, you can see, why,
the Wright bros. were so savvy, knowing this little system,
which we have preliminarily classified in terms
of "tensegrity."...
as for top-posting,
ettiquette is less important than repetitive strain injury
from unneeded "scrolling" --
work it out on your life's palimpsest!...
(that is to say, if you can't follow implications
in a "thread" in written English, there's a class for you
at the local community college: EFL.)
thus:
I discovered this construction while contemplating
a fragment from Diophantus' lost work "On Polygonal
Numbers," which describes a proposition
by the classical Greek geometer Hypsicles:
"There has also been proved what was stated
by Hypsicles in a definition, namely, that 'if
there be as many numbers as we please beginning
from 1 and increasing by the same common difference ...'"
--it takes some to jitterbug!
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/2006_articles/Keplerian.W05.pdf
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2006/3322_ethanol_no_science.html
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
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| User: "Michael Moroney" |
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30 Sep 2006 01:17:37 PM |
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Bob Kolker <nowhere@nowhere.com> writes:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate
If you read the article carefully you will see thermate is used
primarily for flash-bang grendes. It is not the kind of explosive one
would you for deconstructing a tall building.
It's an incendiary substance, not any sort of explosive, despite what
that nutty professor says.
Notice the large barium content. I haven't seen a k00ky konspiracy
site yet that claims there was a lot of barium compounds found in that
area. Also, if there was lots of barium compounds in the fires, it would
be very obvious on the videos.
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| User: "malibu" |
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| Title: Re: WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
30 Sep 2006 11:15:23 AM |
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wrote:
"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159557494.282824.145310@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
wrote:
He never threatened to kill anyone, and the last time I checked,
urinating
on someone's mortal remains is no more than a minor misdemeanor in most
places. Hardly a matter for Interpol.
And by the way, learn to spell it right. It's "thermite".
Negatory, Cory.
Look it up.
Thermate is a variation of thermite containing
some different elements which have been
found plastered all over the buildings around
the WTC site.
Actually look at some of those links, maybe.
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
Well, just seach 'thermate' and see if it's
really a word. (And wonder why dozens of
people are saying it has been found all around
WTC and on the steel.)
Oh yeah, they're all lying.
Bush said so.
John
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: WHY THERMATE was USED on 9/11 by the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS ???? |
30 Sep 2006 03:17:26 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159632923.787743.309240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
(And wonder why dozens of
people are saying it has been found all around
WTC and on the steel.)
Yes, there are plenty of suckers that will believe this crap. I can't help
that, and I can't help that you're one of them.
Oh yeah, they're all lying.
Maybe. Or stupid. Ockham's Razor...learn it, know it, live it.
Bush said so.
No, Bush is a complete moron and most of what he says is complete crap.
However, if you ever learn to think for yourself and not just parrot what
some other wacko told you, you'll learn that just because Bush is an idiot,
the opposite of what he says is not automatically true. That's where
thinking for yourself comes in.
Eric Lucas
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| User: "" |
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30 Sep 2006 03:08:22 PM |
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"malibu" <vegan16@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:1159632923.787743.309240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Nah, I'm not really in the mood for paranoid conspiracy theories today,
thank you.
(And wonder why dozens of
people are saying it has been found all around
WTC and on the steel.)
Oh yeah, they're all lying.
Bush said so.
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| User: "Borek" |
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29 Sep 2006 06:24:15 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:34:31 +0200, <thermate@india.com> wrote:
A controlled demolition normally does not use any thermate.
You even can't learn proper spelling of the material?
--
http://www.chembuddy.com
http://www.ph-meter.info
http://www.terapia-kregoslupa.waw.pl
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